[Q] Root and keep OTA updates? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm planning on using WugFresh's toolkit to root my Nexus 7. Its my understanding right now that as long as I keep the stock recovery I should still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this correct? I'm not interested in flashing any roms or recoveries, just want to get root access but keep the ability to get OTA updates. Will this work for me?

Ninja45 said:
So I'm planning on using WugFresh's toolkit to root my Nexus 7. Its my understanding right now that as long as I keep the stock recovery I should still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this correct? I'm not interested in flashing any roms or recoveries, just want to get root access but keep the ability to get OTA updates. Will this work for me?
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Yes, if you simply just root your device, then OTA updates will be fine.
I did the same with my N7
But I used the other toolkit, cant remember the creator but didn't use WugFresh

Wilks3y said:
Yes, if you simply just root your device, then OTA updates will be fine.
I did the same with my N7
But I used the other toolkit, cant remember the creator but didn't use WugFresh
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Awesome, I will go ahead then. THANKS!

Im on aokp, If i hear news of a new update coming out for android, can i just simply flash back to the stock android file and get the OTA?

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Nexus 7 rooted and unlocked but wants OTA updates

Hi all,
im new to this game so please be kind. i have a nexus 7,rooted it and unlocked it,main reason for that was so that i could install stuff from blackmarket alpha that a friend showed me. just heard of the 4.1.2 update and as of yet havent recieved the prompt for OTA. will i still recieve it or will i have to do it manually because i have no clue how to do that and am worried of loosing my root and/or data.
i used this method to root and unlock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5vawUTJrg&feature=g-hist
i live in australia if that makes any difference
thanks in advance
Ask in the toolkit thread, and don't ask questions in the General section next time.
Beamed from my Grouper.
well where is this toolkit thread?
can you please post a link
RootKeeper App
ice_cold17 said:
Hi all,
im new to this game so please be kind. i have a nexus 7,rooted it and unlocked it,main reason for that was so that i could install stuff from blackmarket alpha that a friend showed me. just heard of the 4.1.2 update and as of yet havent recieved the prompt for OTA. will i still recieve it or will i have to do it manually because i have no clue how to do that and am worried of loosing my root and/or data.
i used this method to root and unlock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh5vawUTJrg&feature=g-hist
i live in australia if that makes any difference
thanks in advance
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I just got it OTA. When you get OTA updates, you lose root. To restore root, use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper from the play store. It worked for me
Saturny said:
I just got it OTA. When you get OTA updates, you lose root. To restore root, use VooDoo OTA RootKeeper from the play store. It worked for me
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ok so you are rooted and unlocked and you recieved the update by OTA without having to install it manually or anything? im still waiting for it,it hasnt come through yet
ice_cold17 said:
well where is this toolkit thread?
can you please post a link
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Google.
Mach3.2 said:
Google.
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Such an arse.
here you go mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929424
Follow it carefully, ya can't go wrong. I used this method, I kept root and have had NO ISSUES what so ever,
awesome thats great,i think i might try that, does this mean i will have to do this everytime there is a new update out?
Wilks3y said:
Such an arse.
here you go mate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929424
Follow it carefully, ya can't go wrong. I used this method, I kept root and have had NO ISSUES what so ever,
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Does it take an arm and limb for OP to use a search engine or the search function in this forum?
Beamed from my Grouper.
I've just got OTA too, last night .. to 4.1.2 .. (and yes, my tablet is rooted, and bootloader opened, but with Stock Rom)
.. but after installing the OTA, nothing happened, still 4.1.1 .. and still have root, didn't lose it .. basicly the tablet tried to update, but it wasn't successfully .. any idea? .. do i have to unroot before OTA update? .. and, when i try to search for update in "Settings - About Tablet" it saying "Up to Date.. ." .. strange :/
p.s. sorry for my weak English
Did you modify the build.prop or install a custom recovery?
On the Asus TF201, once you unlock the bootloader, installing an OTA update would brick the tablet.
I'm wondering: why it is okay to receive OTA updates on a rooted Nexus 7 with an unlocked bootloader when doing this on the Asus TF201 would brick it?
Right now, my Nexus 7 is running the latest OTA 4.2. It's rooted and unlocked. I want to make sure that when I try to install the next OTA update, I won't brick my Nexus 7.
How did you update your nexus 7, mine failed for both 4.1.2 and 4.2, I'm stocked in 4.1.1. I got the updates OTA on the n7 but when it restarted and try to update it failed.
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When I received my update, I was rooted with a locked bootloader. I received a notification that an update was ready to install, and I installed the OTA update. I forgot to use the rootkeeper app, so I lost root. I used Wug's tool to unlock the bootloader and re-root. Wug's toolkit didn't have an option to re-lock the bootloader like a previous toolkit that I had used, so I'm left wondering about the significance of leaving the bootloader unlocked with respect to being able to receive OTA updates. I don't have a desire to flash a custom recovery or custom ROMs on my Nexus 7. I do that on my Galaxy Nexus and Asus TF201, but I just like receiving the stock OTA updates quickly and easily on my Nexus 7.
mraibb said:
How did you update your nexus 7, mine failed for both 4.1.2 and 4.2, I'm stocked in 4.1.1. I got the updates OTA on the n7 but when it restarted and try to update it failed.
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[Q] Best way to root..?

Hi guys!
I have just bought a Nexus7 32gb WiFi.
Which is the best way to root my device?
I don't want to try custom roms yet.
Just to have the stock firmware but rooted.
Should i prefer to use a toolkit with all the steps of unlock bootloader / root etc,
or maybe something else (ex.CF-Auto-Root etc)..?
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
Used that the first day I had it. Couldn't ask for easier rooting. Start with 1 and work your way down to what you need.
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Thanks for the reply.
And now the noob question..
If i'll unlock & root the device, it might cause problems to accept ota updates..?
After ota update, i suppose that needs root again..?
It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.
ynrozturk said:
It won't cause problems with OTA updates - OTA updates simply will not work, period.
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That's what i meant..
ynrozturk said:
If you want the release of an OTA update after you root, you will have to go back to stock again to get the update.
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So, after rooting, what's the way to get the updated firmwares?
Use OTA RootKeeper (http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en)
... it will backup your root (SU binary) and with it you can temporarily unroot - get the OTA update, and restore root again.
Rgrds,
Ged.
I don't want to offend MSkip at all, but I tried both toolkits and MSkip's is just not as friendly as Wug's.
Wug's toolkit is the simplest and easiest way of rooting I have ever experienced. Its that good, my nan could root the bloody thing, and she can't even use a touch device.
Like I said, no offence MSkip but Wug, your my winner.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
Agreed, Wug's toolkit is supreme.
I've only used Wug's so I can't comment on any others, but I can agree that yes, Wug's toolkit is supreme.
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Can I update my android version after root?

Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.
And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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Just go AOKP instead
All my devices run AOKP, and I have never looked back.

[Q] Will taking ota 5.0 break root?

In running stock 4.4.4 n7 2012. Unlocked bootloader and rooted. Will the update break root.
See plenty of posts on how to root from flashing advance update but none on ota and if it will unroot. Thanks in advance.
Yes. Update replaces kernel and system, so root is lost.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Is there an easy way to do it? Preferably without the use of a computer. Had a hell of a time whenever i rooted my nexus. Shockingly my Motorola and sony devices are way easier to root.
Nexus root toolkit will make it easier
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POMF2K said:
Is there an easy way to do it? Preferably without the use of a computer. Had a hell of a time whenever i rooted my nexus. Shockingly my Motorola and sony devices are way easier to root.
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Following the update (I didn't OTA, I adb'd) I wasn't able to regain root without a computer, I tried. Here are my steps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/general/update-nexus-7-to-5-0-4-4-4-root-t2943726
I updated from 4.4.4, unlocked and rooted like you. I used CF-Auto-Root to gain root using my Mac, but Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit might be easier if you are on PC.

Noob root question. If i get an OTA can i just flash SuperSU once im already rooted?

Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
me2151 said:
OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
jluca98 said:
Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
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all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied
Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.
Neither are the other devices anymore
I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.

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