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Hey guys,
I permarooted my phone yesterday, and got rid of amazon mp3 via titanium back up. There's so much more I want to get rid of, but I don't want to delete something essential to the ROM resulting in force closures forever.
I wouldn't mind so much if I was using some sort of recovery with the complete ROM zip in my SD card.
Back to the point, what can we safely delete?
just back up the apps before you uninstall them, then if you have any issues you can just put it back
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
thebitjockey said:
I found out the hard way, titanium does not backup system apps.
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I thought TB did in fact backup system apps. Maybe when I did it with TB it wasn't really backing them up, but it gave me the option to do it so I did. Figured I would back up the system apps to the ROM in case it was somewhat difficult to un-root if needed.
TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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TB backs up only system data, not the apps themselves.
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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Same here no issues.
mlockman said:
But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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For me, it backed them up and I did see the compressed files. Upon further examination, the compressed files were empty.
What someone else said is true, it does backup the data but it does not backup the app yet it will delete the apps APK files from the /system/app directory. Basically, no way to restore them.
freeze an app first... make sure you get no FC or problems...
then delete it
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But it can restore the apps from the backed up data, or am I totally not getting what the batch file for the system app is for?
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TB can backup only system app data, that is data from the apps built into the ROM. It does however back up both user apps themselves (elective apps you download) in addition to their data.
Scoop24 said:
I deleted everything I didn't want.. No issues
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21productionz said:
Same here no issues.
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I think he just wants to know which apps everyone removed to avoid any issues a head a time.... like a list of what you removed if your not having any issues whats so ever...
I havent got a OTA yet so I cant remove anything either way but if your still waiting to get confirmation on whats def safe to remove Ill let you know when I do it
^^ Great, thanks. There are so many threads and questions about bloatware, methods of removing said bloatware, and which ones are safe to remove.
A running list would be great, and I suggest that additional posts be more specific to assist the more timid amongst us. Thanks.
Could someone be kindly enough to explain what is this permarooted thing for? I did a search and there's guide on how to do permaroot only. and yes I r a nub, my first android. :X
can someone compile a list of safe things to remove?
Please post questions in Q&A section.
I took out a few things yesterday and found out two important things:
1) Even after removing Facebook for Mytouch you cannot add a Facebook sync account using the market Facebook app.
2) Titanium will not restore apps like Peep or Facebook for Mytouch. It lists it as backed up, but there is no option to restore. ('restore all apps and system data' yielded the same results)
There was an alternate FB app out there for a while that fixed the sync issue, but for myself I just reverted to my nandroid backup.
However, aside from the issue above, I experienced no issues on the phone after removing:
Facebook for Mytouch
Peep
News sync
News
Asphalt, RB, etc
I think I removed a few others but don't want to guess at names and spread misinformation.
May I suggest someone compile a list and create a stickie topic for it?
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^^ Yeah, well Titanium cannot backup system apps, and therefore, cannot restore them! It only backs up and restores their data.
@Hinouchi
Rooting is the process of, basically, gaining full access to make changes to your phone.
Permarooting is a term used specifically relating to the G2 and Mytouch, which were "designed" to revert changes such as rooting after the phone is rebooted. Permaroot is a process by which you bypass this manufacturer "safety feature" and obtain *perma*nent *root* access.
I suspect you may find a better explanation on Wikipedia, but that's the gist of it.
EDIT: No worries on the content of your question, we're all "n00bs" at something
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@floepie
So it would seem! Though I don't recall ever seeing that in what documentation there is for the app.
I'll look again and email the dev if I can't find anything.
There are certainly other ways to backup/restore those apps, but the capability to do so in Ti would be some kind of awesomesauce
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Does anyone else find it very time consuming to have to reinstall all of your data after every rom wipe? I find my self never leaving a rom for awhile because of the whole set up process including the Google set up.
It takes me an hour.
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I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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This is why Titanium Backup and Mybackup Root were written...
Titanium backup does all of that for you.... 20 minutes and your new ROM is setup
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I'm a solid 20-25 minutes max.
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Rooster85 said:
I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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I suppose Ti is best, but I haven't seen a ics friendly one available on the open seas
Nandroid? I only have 1 one my phone and thats 2.3.3 stock.
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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Titanium is definitely ics friendly. If you have pro (or on free.. idk), set up filters with your must have apps. When you clear data ans flash a new rom, it will verify your TB account and restore settings, including filters. Just toggle the filter and do a batch restore. I was in the same boat you were til I started doing this.
And yes, TB also has a feature to restore apps or data, extracting from a nandroid backup.
•°NS4G • ICS°•
Or you could use es file explorer. Just go to the app manager button on the central screen, by pressing it it shows up all ur apps. Choose which ones you want and back them up. After flashing just restore using file explorer in the same manner...
The apps can also be found on the sdcard under backups/apps.
Astrofile manager does exactly the same job.. your pick.
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With Titanium Backup I can be back up and running in about 10 minutes.
Sign into Gmail
Sign into Outlook
Download TB from market
Restore apps and data
Done
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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just save a copy of a TB apk to your SD.
Thats if the custom rom that has a file explorer preloaded. If not has to download also from market
Another annoying thing Google doesn't add to OS besides a restart option is a built in file explorer
Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
Nandroid?..............
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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thats ridiculous:
1. im pretty sure ive noticed mine being around 6 minutes
2. they arent a waste of space since they are a back up file. i keep 3 always deleting the oldest one.
3. you CAN go back to them at anytime like nothing
4. i make mine every wednesday while im showering (which takes more then 6 minutes)
demo23019 said:
TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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ozone89 said:
Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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how the **** am i wrong i never said free one didn't
i said pro because that what i have
Noob question...flashed phone for first time yesterday and performed a backup using titanium free. When I flash a new rom don't you usually have to wipe data first? Would this not wipe the backup from your phone?
Thanks in advance!
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
Nick N said:
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
Skillz1318 said:
So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
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Noob replying to a noob (so pardon me, if i stumble):
When flashing a new ROM, you wipe - system, dalvik cache, data and boot ( perhaps not reqd.) Wiping SD card not required when installing new ROMs, unless it's the first time, and you're putting CWR on a Nexus S... However, some developers do recommending a full SD Card wipe as well. I assume you copy the Titanium backup folders to your PC, and copy it back before restoring.. Haven't tried that yet..
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Probably will have to buy Pro, since it's getting to be a pain to restore my apps, with the permissions for each one...
Somehow, TiBackup doesn't seem to restore my homescreen settings, though I remember reading somewhere that it should do that as well..
Also, learnt the hardway not to try restoring Call logs and Messages when moving from a GB ROM to an ICS ROM... Boot loops with 2 ICS roms (Nexusbeam and Brainmaster's )
So, what all can you restore using TiB with your eyes closed?
I am still new to this phone, but with the Evo we had a zip file that wiped the system, data, cache, etc instead of remembering which ones to wipe. Maybe there is something like that for the Nexus?
I only restore apps, so I am not much help outside of that. With TB Pro all you have to do is click batch and restore all the apps with data automatically while you sit there and wait. I generally restore user apps only, maybe someone else can chime in with advice on restoring settings?
There is also an option to save backups on your drop box account, but I don't.
I am a flashaholic, one of the reasons I bought a used NS4G was because I was bored with the Evo. Titanium Backup (Pro) makes it fast and easy to restore apps and data when flashing new ROMs.
I want to make a clean start on my a500. (3.21)It has slowed down over the past year. I want to erase everything and reinstall apps using app monster. I was thing of flashing my a500 with ICS, but I am not sure whether this only installs the OS alone, but also the apps.
I am curious about ICS as I have waited patiently for OTA upgrade but haven't seen it.
Any tips are appreciated
Thanks
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supermario56 said:
I want to make a clean start on my a500. (3.21)It has slowed down over the past year. I want to erase everything and reinstall apps using app monster. I was thing of flashing my a500 with ICS, but I am not sure whether this only installs the OS alone, but also the apps.
I am curious about ICS as I have waited patiently for OTA upgrade but haven't seen it.
Any tips are appreciated
Thanks
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if you want ICS OTA make sure you have the acer enhancement app from the market thats the only way you can get it OTA
I think that if you just hit the privacy tab in your settings menu and choose factory reset it will do what you are wanting. As far as upgrading goes... Yes. ICS updates will only update the operating system, and yes , your apps and settings and clutter would still be there. So if you feel like you are truly bogged down and need to just wipe it all, do that reset. And then after you'v'e used your monster backup, go to the Play Store and grab the Acer Enhancement tool that Gears mentioned. You'll be set. But do yourself a favor and do some kind of backup first. If you are all stock, it might pay out to get root and then get Titanium Backup or other just so you don't lose something that you may have forgot about.
Good luck.
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I think that if you just hit the privacy tab in your settings menu and choose factory reset it will do what you are wanting. As far as upgrading goes... Yes. ICS updates will only update the operating system, and yes , your apps and settings and clutter would still be there. So if you feel like you are truly bogged down and need to just wipe it all, do that reset. And then after you'v'e used your monster backup, go to the Play Store and grab the Acer Enhancement tool that Gears mentioned. You'll be set. But do yourself a favor and do some kind of backup first. If you are all stock, it might pay out to get root and then get Titanium Backup or other just so you don't lose something that you may have forgot about.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your tips.
I do have all my apps backed up with App Monster. I am hoping this is all the backup I need. Are you suggesting Titanium Backup as an option. I assume you need root to use T. backup.
BTW...... How can I backup the passwords and settings I have for all the different networks I have connected to?
Thanks again for your input
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Titanium Pro version will do all of what you would need and more, but requires root. You have to buy the paid version to be able to save your wifi settings, bookmarks and more advanced stuff than just apps. Totally worth the price if you can't do a backup in recovery. But be sure and save your photos and documents manually. I don't think that Titanium gets those.
I looked for a free way to collect the wifi info. There are a few apps on the play store for this. So if you have already paid for the full version of App Monster then you might just want to find one of them. It might not make much sense to own 2 backup apps...
You can do a factory reset then there is another thing that shows other data folder and you can chose and delete the ones you want
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I just restored a Factory Image after I hat major PlayStore Issues (which are caused by my damn provider I just realized -.-)... But I did not know that it also deletes the internal SD Card - is there a way to restore the files? :/
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Robin
mautz001 said:
I just restored a Factory Image after I hat major PlayStore Issues (which are caused by my damn provider I just realized -.-)... But I did not know that it also deletes the internal SD Card - is there a way to restore the files? :/
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Robin
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without a backup, sorry, no. (at least i don´t know any)
75markus said:
without a backup, sorry, no. (at least i don´t know any)
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Yeahhh, those files are gone man
Some people have had success recovering some pictures while using the process outlined in this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34185439
Take a look, maybe it can help you.
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Well, there is unproven data recovery software out there, but its not exactly free...
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I really dont want to have to backup all my contacts text messages and what not and have to re-sync all of my data. So is there a way to root it without wiping all my data or is that impossible? Thanks.
Yup it can be done have a Google and read a few time like I did and it worked,
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Yup it can be done have a Google and read a few time like I did and it worked,
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Thanks. I just checked out the sticky on here for the new root method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577
Will that keep all my data?
Also I'm on AT&Ts latest MF3 build. If that makes a difference. Sorry this is the first time I have every tried rooting a phone.
Dude.. if you already find the correct thread. Why don't you ask there. I guess it will not wipe your data. At least on mine it didn't but I my contacts are stored on my gmail account. So my best advice is ask on the thread..
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This doesn't format your ROM it uses your sdcard to install root So you will have to wipe your sdcard. So any pictures or other items on it you will loose when you format it.
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CavyS said:
Also I'm on AT&Ts latest MF3 build. If that makes a difference. Sorry this is the first time I have every tried rooting a phone.
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And why are you rooting?
Can I Root without "Wipe," to recover accidentally deleted photos?
I'm on NC1.
I need to "Root" without wiping the Internal Memory.
I was using Internal Memory for photos and in a state of stupor (I assume), deleted a folder I thought I moved to my PC.
So the files are now deleted. I want to use one of the many recovery tools but thus far, all that I can find require "Root" access.
BTW: As an aside, does anyone else experience issues with copying too/from Internal Memory to a PC and the files seemingly go, or at least them are visible in Explorer, but then after disconnecting the phone, when you look for them, they are not there?