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Gingerbread Port..

HC sucks.. it sucks so badly Im always using my older original P1000 Tab still & dont use the 7.7. I was just reading (and this might be a misprint) that the 7.7 Tab was released in the Philippines w/Gingerbread:
http://www.gadgetreport.me/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-p6800-philippines/
To me this sounds like heaven on earth. If this is true, can it be made available for download & install? And if this info about the 7.7 in the Philippines is actually not correct, how hard and what would it take to some developers to get Gingerbrear ported to the 7.7? Im surely not the only one w/this interest & am more than willing to pitch-in to make this happen!
Thanks to all in advance

They just got their facts wrong.
Anyway, ICS is coming soon and you will get that snappy quick feeling back soon enough
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http://www.samsung.com/ph/consumer/mobile-devices/tablets/tablets/GT-P6800LSAXTC
My guess is your source just got it mixed up with the Note which actually shipped with GB.
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enemix said:
They just got their facts wrong.
Anyway, ICS is coming soon and you will get that snappy quick feeling back soon enough
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Thats what I thought.. hmmmm yeah regarding ICS I have ONE DREAM ONLY: that someone can help me make a script/mod to force the 7.7 Tab into phone mode under ICS! What I love the most about my P1000 is that its a big phone, not a small tablet like the current HC inteneration of the 7.7 that is way too small for a Tab-like interface. Since ICS supports tablet & phone mods Im sure its possible to make a build to force it into Phone mode. Ive tried doing it with a Nexus and a beta of ICS but failed.. Im bad with scripts & things like that but I know it can be done. The 7.7 with ICS in phone mode will be positively the upgrade for my 7.0 Tab that Ive used now for over 1 & 1/2years & that I still love & use everyday, since I got it! Best tab ever, best phone ever, best "almost" ultra portable tablet ever! Gosh the 7.0 is so amazing.. & Gingerbread as far as Im concerned, perfect!

Even if Gingerbread were to be ported to the 7.7, it wouldn't be properly functional thanks to the lack of physical keys such as Home, Menu and Back.

speedofheat said:
Even if Gingerbread were to be ported to the 7.7, it wouldn't be properly functional thanks to the lack of physical keys such as Home, Menu and Back.
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Yeap very true.. another reason I dislike HC & ICS.. precious screen space lost for the virtual keys.. so stupid..

VeEuzUKY said:
Thats what I thought.. hmmmm yeah regarding ICS I have ONE DREAM ONLY: that someone can help me make a script/mod to force the 7.7 Tab into phone mode under ICS! What I love the most about my P1000 is that its a big phone, not a small tablet like the current HC inteneration of the 7.7 that is way too small for a Tab-like interface. Since ICS supports tablet & phone mods Im sure its possible to make a build to force it into Phone mode. Ive tried doing it with a Nexus and a beta of ICS but failed.. Im bad with scripts & things like that but I know it can be done. The 7.7 with ICS in phone mode will be positively the upgrade for my 7.0 Tab that Ive used now for over 1 & 1/2years & that I still love & use everyday, since I got it! Best tab ever, best phone ever, best "almost" ultra portable tablet ever! Gosh the 7.0 is so amazing.. & Gingerbread as far as Im concerned, perfect!
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Ics will switch itself depends on yr dpi, so if u want phone mode, change the dpi to a phone level
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VeEuzUKY said:
HC sucks.. it sucks so badly Im always using my older original P1000 Tab still & dont use the 7.7. I was just reading (and this might be a misprint) that the 7.7 Tab was released in the Philippines w/Gingerbread:
http://www.gadgetreport.me/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-p6800-philippines/
To me this sounds like heaven on earth. If this is true, can it be made available for download & install? And if this info about the 7.7 in the Philippines is actually not correct, how hard and what would it take to some developers to get Gingerbrear ported to the 7.7? Im surely not the only one w/this interest & am more than willing to pitch-in to make this happen!
Thanks to all in advance
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emprize said:
Ics will switch itself depends on yr dpi, so if u want phone mode, change the dpi to a phone level
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The dpi changes in build.prop are obsolete in ICS. They still work, technically, but can cause buggy aspect ratio issues.
Changing between phone and tablet mode in ICS is much easier now.
In your build.prop, you can entirely remove the lcd density line altogether, and instead, use the line:
ro.build.characteristics=tablet
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ro.build.characteristics=phone
Easy peasy! Hope that helps!
P.S. To OP: The idea of GB on the 7.7 actually just makes me shudder in horror... HC may have its faults, but at least it has system-wide hardware acceleration by default. GB is just too stuttery for me overall, especially compared to HC and ICS.
Now, on one hand, I can sorta understand where you're coming from with the whole big phone vs small tablet thing, but if what you're really craving is a big phone with GB on it, why not just get the Note? Between the Note and the 7.7, I would say that the 7.7 really is more on the the small tablet side of things whereas the Note is more on the big phone end of the spectrum.
Now, I wonder where a 6.5 inch device would stand...?
P.P.S. OP, have you looked at this yet?

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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
The dpi changes in build.prop are obsolete in ICS. They still work, technically, but can cause buggy aspect ratio issues.
Changing between phone and tablet mode in ICS is much easier now.
In your build.prop, you can entirely remove the lcd density line altogether, and instead, use the line:
ro.build.characteristics=tablet
-or-
ro.build.characteristics=phone
Easy peasy! Hope that helps!
P.S. To OP: The idea of GB on the 7.7 actually just makes me shudder in horror... HC may have its faults, but at least it has system-wide hardware acceleration by default. GB is just too stuttery for me overall, especially compared to HC and ICS.
Now, on one hand, I can sorta understand where you're coming from with the whole big phone vs small tablet thing, but if what you're really craving is a big phone with GB on it, why not just get the Note? Between the Note and the 7.7, I would say that the 7.7 really is more on the the small tablet side of things whereas the Note is more on the big phone end of the spectrum.
Now, I wonder where a 6.5 inch device would stand...?
P.P.S. OP, have you looked at this yet?
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Thanks a lot for the link (very informative) and thank you also for the Phone/ tablet mode switching info.. I cant wait for ICS upgrade on the 7.7 and try it.. by the way my girlfriend has a Galaxy Note.. of course because it has Gingerbread I love it and also for another special reason.. I'm a graphics designer and very particular about display color accuracy.. all phones and tablets have uncalibrated screens.. like the Note is green tinted and my 7.7 is actually VERY yellow.. drives me crazy! BUT, there is an app from one of our members called Soft Screen Tuner that allows to PERFECTLY calibrate the colors on the Galaxy Note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366280
.. its a dream app come true for me, but it it does NOT work on the 7.7 Tab even though the hardware and display type on the note and 7.7 is identical I want so badly to make it work or find a similar app that can tune the colors on the 7.7 Tab. So far, no luck..
Hmmmmm, so let me dream a bit... the 7.7 with ICS in phone mode and with calibrated colors.. yeah... that will be the best tab in the world for me

VeEuzUKY said:
Thanks a lot for the link (very informative) and thank you also for the Phone/ tablet mode switching info.. I cant wait for ICS upgrade on the 7.7 and try it.. by the way my girlfriend has a Galaxy Note.. of course because it has Gingerbread I love it and also for another special reason.. I'm a graphics designer and very particular about display color accuracy.. all phones and tablets have uncalibrated screens.. like the Note is green tinted and my 7.7 is actually VERY yellow.. drives me crazy! BUT, there is an app from one of our members called Soft Screen Tuner that allows to PERFECTLY calibrate the colors on the Galaxy Note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366280
.. its a dream app come true for me, but it it does NOT work on the 7.7 Tab even though the hardware and display type on the note and 7.7 is identical I want so badly to make it work or find a similar app that can tune the colors on the 7.7 Tab. So far, no luck..
Hmmmmm, so let me dream a bit... the 7.7 with ICS in phone mode and with calibrated colors.. yeah... that will be the best tab in the world for me
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For me, I think the ultimate device would be if the 7.7 had the same kind of screen as the Note (not in the PenTile RGBG sub-pixel sense, but rather in the s-pen functionality sense), and if the s-pen accessory were like some kind of hybridization of an HM5000, an HM3000, and an s-pen.

Need some opinions

I am looking to buy a Galaxy Tab 2. I had the Nook Tablet and loved the size but wanted a tablet that was an actual tablet. I ended up buying the new ipad but things were tight and ended up having to sell it.
I want another tablet and love the size, speed, and battery life.I was playing with it at Best Buy and noticed that you can only use the entire screen in landscape mode. Are there any custom roms that fix this. Also, is everyone pretty happy with your GT2? I have an iphone and I love it. But I miss having an android device that I can customize and mess with. Just wanna make sure this is the right one. I think for the price, you can't miss!

Worth it!!
I love mine. Right now I am using the new 10.1 right now. I started with the 7in thinking I wouldn't want it to big. I then went to the 8.9 and yet again wanted bigger one. Plus it was nice the tab 2 10.1 came out as the same price as the 8.9. I bought mine at micro center; they had it for $249 which is 50 cheaper than best buy. Anyway yes Samsung pretty much owns the market. I loved all my galaxy tablets. Hope this helps and good luck.

I am loving my Tab 2 7.0. In fact, I have purchased several Android tablets looking for that right one, and I think I have deduced that none are really iPad killers, but the Tab 2 7.0 comes as close to being the ideal Android Tablet there is. I like it so much that I will more than likely sell my Xoom Wifi, and perhaps Transformer Prime and pick up the Tab 2 10.1.
PROS: size and feel, battery life it great (I charge about every other day with moderate us - now if you streamed video constantly, I would say you would charge every day). Speed is very nice. Browsing with no lag - very zippy. GPS works great. I have a 7" car mount and use it for Navigation and it works great. Good sound from the dual speakers (at least for this size of tablet). Screen is sharp. It has a power saving mode available in the settings that may extend your battery life a bit.
CONS: Of course, Touchwiz, but it sounds like you would customize, anyway. I just put Apex Launcher on it for now (I have no plans to root it and flash custom ROM at this time). The automatic brightness setting is almost always too dim for my tastes. This sounds wierd, but it is the hardest tablet to clean that I own - the screen is very "slimy" for lack of a better term. I can take microfiber cloths to any of my other tablets, and will little effort have them mirror shined, but it takes work on the Tab 2 7.0 - everything just smears really bad. Never experienced this before with a tablet. The last con is the backing - though it looks cool, the plastic is hard and slick - prone to scratches and dropping as it can slide out of your hands.
You have another option in the Kindle Fire. Head over to the Kindle Fire Development thread and check out some of the wonderful ROMS available there - I use GedeROM 1.55. If times are tight, you can pick up a Fire for next to nothing, root it and have a nearly pure ICS experience on it. I actually like the Fire's form factor better than the Tab 2 7.0. Cons of course are no Bluetooth, GPS, or Camera - which may be a killer for most. I would consider it the ultimate secondary cheap tablet to play with.
Good luck!
Rob

You may want to look at the Asus Prime line or the Acer Iconia Line. The development section on the Tab 2 is pitiful. There are only 2 ROMs available. Acer is about to release their A700 which will make the Tab 2 look like a toy. And the Asus line is really starting to get interesting. I bought the Tab 2 for my son, bought the 7" from Costco and when I got home it was the 10.1 inch. So I'll keep it but until the development increases for this tablet you may want to look elsewhere.

I suggest that the OP heads over to the Prime XDA forums before investing into any Asus tablet. Six months with mine has been nothing but disappointments. I simply cannot and will not recommend Asus to anyone. Any correspondence with them is further reason to avoid. They are going to have to have English based support to penetrate the US market further. If not phone, then at least someone to translate their support site and email correspondence for them. I recently had an owner survey from them and it was embarrassing.
Again, it is up to the OP to research, however and determine their own view.
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cruise350 said:
You may want to look at the Asus Prime line or the Acer Iconia Line. The development section on the Tab 2 is pitiful. There are only 2 ROMs available.
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This will change due to the volume Samsung has to be selling on the tab 2 7.0
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thanks for your help! I got my Tab 2 and I am loving it. I am trying out different ROMS and loving the apex launcher. What ROM are you guys using?

I have been using the tab2 lite rom/kernel.I tried all the others and just think it is great.I have it oc'd to 1.35 and the tab is so fast.Its not that I dont like the other roms they are great and I appreciate everything everyones doing for tab2...just think I will run this rom till something better comes along.....MIUI maybe?
Come on devs.We are looking at you.lol
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highandmighty00 said:
I have been using the tab2 lite rom/kernel.I tried all the others and just think it is great.I have it oc'd to 1.35 and the tab is so fast.Its not that I dont like the other roms they are great and I appreciate everything everyones doing for tab2...just think I will run this rom till something better comes along.....MIUI maybe?
Come on devs.We are looking at you.lol
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what did you use to over clock it? And did you get rid of the screen capture and the mini apps

rbellis said:
what did you use to over clock it? And did you get rid of the screen capture and the mini apps
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I use setcpu to over clock all of my devices. The app is cheap but in actuality is very polished and does its job well.
I also removed both for my own reasons (I like a very simplistic look). I would recommend finding the ROM you like, and backing it up and then trying a bunch of different mods.
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Should i get the 7.7 or stick with my Note

I really like my note ....but im i also luv the 7.7...so im asking for a opinion from you guys....is it worth the trade.....

This belongs in general not development...
Anyway, I prefer the size of the 7.7 screen, and the fact that it's not pentile. But the stylus and ICS make the Note very attractive.

I have them both the note is better for phone functions and the 7.7 is better for tablet functions, easy answer buy them both and while your at it you might as well get an asus prime so you also have a 10 inch tablet !

I have them both but only using my 6800 now.

Thanks for all the input ive been looking for the perfect solution i like the tab and want big screen plus make calls.
Do you think its worth a trade . .would it be pretty even .
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Only thing making me keep my note is just as a backup. also really wanting ics...

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keep your note with you please.
Its not that tab is not good,
but note has good developer support, while this tab has very poor developer support.
Even it has less support from samaung itself very less updates, where as note has good samsung support.
i will advice you to not to trade your device for this.
Its your choice.
Good luck

I would recommend sticking with the Note if you are into custom ROMS or ICS.

thanks for all yalls help ...hopefully i can stumble upon a INT version pretty cheap and get that one .....and patiently wait for the note 2....

now should i get the 7.7 since its been annouced that ics is coming ....btw anyone interested in trading 7.7 for a note ....

I can't believe I'm considering this, but---possibly...
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The indefinite microcosm becomes the indefinite macrocosm in a definite manner and by definite means...and vice versa.

I REALLY like this tab. I LOVE drawing on it. Its NOT too big, but I keep tearing the rubber from capacitive styli... and pressure sensitivity..... that was the big toss up for me, the pressure sesitivity... it's running ics now? I have a p6800 and I LOVE it. Can I give up the extra screen realestate for pressure sensitivity? Forum? Can you help me decide if I should make this trade? This is probably where PM'S become good. But now let me REALLY research the Note and I'll get back to you.

Got the 7.7 yesterday. I have been debating it for months. I still have the Note... will be keeping both! Screen is amazing on 7.7...just like the S2. Also, unlike many tabs, the 7 screens are preserved and it is not cut down to 5. There is a tiny bit of lag sometimes when transitioning screens, hopefully this will go with ics update. But, it wont be the end of the world if it doesnt. I like the handiness of the mini app tray and having some ability to personalize this. Thought i would miss the IR function (which has been taken out of the final 7.7 UK model), but i dont. I have no issue with other styli not being pressure sensitive...i am impressed with writing and drawing ability on 7.7. However, unlike many on here, this function is not essential for my lifestyle or my work. I plan to use my 7.7 as a phone and media device when at home for long periods or travelling. This will save my battery on my Note ... I will use my Note for work.
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whmcal said:
Got the 7.7 yesterday. I have been debating it for months. I still have the Note... will be keeping both! Screen is amazing on 7.7...just like the S2. Also, unlike many tabs, the 7 screens are preserved and it is not cut down to 5. There is a tiny bit of lag sometimes when transitioning screens, hopefully this will go with ics update. But, it wont be the end of the world if it doesnt. I like the handiness of the mini app tray and having some ability to personalize this. Thought i would miss the IR function (which has been taken out of the final 7.7 UK model), but i dont. I have no issue with other styli not being pressure sensitive...i am impressed with writing and drawing ability on 7.7. However, unlike many on here, this function is not essential for my lifestyle or my work. I plan to use my 7.7 as a phone and media device when at home for long periods or travelling. This will save my battery on my Note ... I will use my Note for work.
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Yep the default launcher lags during transitioning. The default TW launcher is the worse of its kind. Any other launcher you could find on earth is better than it.
They said ICS will be there for 7.7 next month, but even so why torture your tab with TW launcher anymore? I recommend GO Launcher HD, or you could try Lightning.

Yeah well the offer still stands if anyone wants to pm me . . . .tab for a note . . .
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九千. said:
Yep the default launcher lags during transitioning. The default TW launcher is the worse of its kind. Any other launcher you could find on earth is better than it.
They said ICS will be there for 7.7 next month, but even so why torture your tab with TW launcher anymore? I recommend GO Launcher HD, or you could try Lightning.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Will check out the Go Launcher HD app
to see if it can kill the lag
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[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?

I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
A little pro for you is the support of the users here in xda

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!

I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.

azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.

You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.

scottx . said:
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!

I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.

Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.

Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.

I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).

Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??

PantechBurstOwner said:
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.

I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Returning to best buy.. want to restore stock.

Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com

Just return it. They aren't going to check anything

Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.

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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....

The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.

The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.

Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.

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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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pezlomd said:
Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.

I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.

I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.

blcistheking said:
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.