Hi Dear X8&X10 Users!
First of all. I dont want to change the world, just want to share my experice what i gained during my studies and share these pictures what are not common, (because we use non-common cameras)
I have a chance to make TIC pic about our phone, while charging, and tomarrow i have a new chance to make more pic.
So, me and one of my frined, just decided to make some pic, and explanation.
The x8 and x10 is about 20-30°C in normal condition. But. When you start to charge your phone its starts to heating(you can experience it),from outside to inside as the picture shows it.Its about 40-50°C while charging but it's just a relative degree and need more metering to get the correct value.
Tomorrow i have a new chance to make other pics about our phone. I planned to make some pic about processor, but i think we wont see anything difference from it's enviroment because the armv6 chipset is too small to sense it, and need more sensitive devices to make a good picture what can be evaluated.
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About the pics.
You can see the x8 and x10 when they were started to charge to full charged. The interesting thing is, when you can see the starting of the charge. The battery is starting to heating from outside to inside. My opinion is, that the cells of the battery starts the electricity gaining from the outside. While charging the degree is starting to increase and while its full charged its started to cooling,at 100% it goes back to normal temperature.
While started to charge:
The processe:
THe cooled ones after charging (plugged in but 100%):
About the screen.
Its just a normal surface, which behave like everything what we touch. You leave thermal points on it, and nothing more. We checked the temperature of the screen while we set the brightness higher and higher....and.........nothing. Nor temperature increasing.
I hope you enjoy this review, i'm gona continue it tomorrow with CPU test, and standerd temperature after OC.
(I'm a safety engineer, who want to know a lot about the phones safety, and the connection between battery and CPU overheatings)
Let's Rock(Metal)
cant see all pictures...is it only me or???
fotak-x said:
cant see all pictures...is it only me or???
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sry, my mistake, fixing, 3 mins
EDIT: FIXED
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sry, my mistake, fixing, 3 mins
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thanks very interesting review :good:
If you have any idea what should i test tomorrow with TIC jsut tell me
Straboterous said:
If you have any idea what should i test tomorrow with TIC jsut tell me
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if you wanna do something interesting take apart x8 play some hard games and picture heating
fotak-x said:
if you wanna do something interesting take apart x8 play some hard games and picture heating
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It's a nice idea, but one problem. My hands are heating the screen & device and when i dont touch it, it goes to normal temperature....the screen doesnt indicate too much heat. the only thing you can see is my fingerprints on my screen But sure, i'll do it, i'm gona back to MiniCM and install some hard game like DeadSpace and NFS
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It's a nice idea, but one problem. My hands are heating the screen & device and when i dont touch it, it goes to normal temperature....the screen doesnt indicate too much heat. the only thing you can see is my fingerprints on my screen But sure, i'll do it, i'm gona back to MiniCM and install some hard game like DeadSpace and NFS
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take a pictures of motherboard heating,screen isnt important i wanna see how gpu/cpu act when they are heated :good: :good:
fotak-x said:
take a pictures of motherboard heating,screen isnt important i wanna see how gpu/cpu act when they are heated :good: :good:
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Ok i explain. Our CPU is small, about 20-25 squaremilimeters. So if its indicate some heat it lost between the camera and the CPU, so senseable diference between the 2 temperature will not be shown. But! if i punnish my phone, and take out the battery during the hard gaming, there is a little chance to see some heat-point on the shell!
I'll try my best
Cool! :beer::beer:
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it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
gundamboy said:
it's right here
enjoy!
well...at least try to
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this is a good vid, shows all the leads etc that we will get and the unit itself which looks good.
hopefully in the next day or 2 they will upload the guy running through the software so we can see what software they included and how much they have improved it from the announcement model (if they have sorted the lag and changed or improved anything).
yeah, I'd like to see how it runs and how well it goes through the panels.
I'm considering purchasing one, just not right away...
(waiting for a price drop similar to the Xperia X1's)
double posted, my bad.
Engadget article:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/sony-ericsson-xperia-x2-lovingly-unboxed-on-video/
TAKE THAT KILLERSKINCANOE!!!11ONE!!1
lolz .
lol, awesome orelsi!
was wondering when you'd show up
FOCK! i knew it was a bad time to go for some smokes! lolz
good find my friend. although i'm pretty sure i watched it b4 i left. just forgot to post it... oh the thc in my blood is ****in with my memory.. oh well.. thats y i like it
it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
gundamboy said:
it's cool, can't wait for some more videos of the UI and a whole breakdown of the unit itself.
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Me too!
Great device.....
Just got my X1 few weeks ago and now change of heart already.
the only really big problem right now is the price...
my wallet doesn't hold that much money
u need a George Costanza wallet !!
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lolz
Here is what mine looks like:
damn, I DO need a big one.
gundamboy said:
damn, I DO need a big one.
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That's what she said!
P.S. Sorry, I wasn't able to stop myself .
oh damn how did i miss this! nice! lol
Sigh... after watching the video, somehow just adds to the feeling that it really ain't much of a big improvement over the X1. But well, will still get it. And hopefully, it'll be out before the 1 year warranty of my X1 expires so that I can send it for servicing. Gotta get my keyboard issue resolved, now that I realized it ain't to do with me using a custom ROM.
If you want it to feel like a "big thing" just simply think of it as a standalone phone from the Xperia series, not as a successor to the X1.
After you establish that fact, it's just a new phone in the lineup.
I hope they won't put those pathetic earphones in the final set.
I would like to LAUGH one more time about their decision to use micro usb when all the companies in the undustry have agreed to use mini usb.
Midway through the video, just after he puts in the battery (which looks to be a standard X1 BST-41 ) - he hits a switch on the side. I was originally going to ask if that might be a Hold switch like the ASUS phones have - but I realize now its actually just a battery case lock - oh well.
Can't say I like the reduction of the buttons, makes for less customization, the micro-usb means I need to get mini-micro adapters (90% of all usb non-USB-A devices I've owned since 2002 have had Mini-USB plugs). Flat screen is nice though, being a little bigger can't hurt. Nice camera, but lower frame-rate on VGA recording like the X1a now for all editions? Mostly same specs though and no idea what software it will break... makes me with hold judgment on whether I'd ever buy it though. That and the fact I have a brand new X1 to play with in my hand right now .
Peter
P.S. Just saw your reply above me orelsi, I wish Mini-USB were the standard but I keep reading that it's now micro-usb - I'd be happy if you can prove me wrong on this Ref: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2341261,00.asp
I havent experimented too much but this is the first result of the two mentioned programs mixed together (stirred , not shaken ) when installed on the X2
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Just launch nueOverClockTest (it will put your CPU @ 768Mhz).
then launch Msm7kCpuSpeed (it will show 960MHz)
then exit from Msm7kCpuSpeed (our CPU will be clocked @1056MHz, you can check reopening one of the two programs).
As you can see on the screenshots the overclock works also if the phone is battery powered.
No benchmark atm, but @1056Mhz the phone is reeeallyyy a pleasure to use.
The overclock seem really working.
Navigon will take about 30 sec to start @ stock speed, but will take only 16/18 sec to start @ 1056
and how much does 1056mhz stress the cpu ?
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and how much does 1056mhz stress the cpu ?
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I'm not sure that this value is correct, what' I see is an improvement on the performances and this is enough for me.
Btw the only broken cpus I saw in 27 years of IT involvement were some athlon XP powered on w/o the heat-sink, so I don't care less about the cpu stress.
where can i get the programs for this? can u give me a link?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Msm7kCpuSpeed
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nueOverClockTest
Hi guys,
I have followed the process outlined here and it seems to be working great on the phone. Just wanted to know if you have any other programs that can be used to benchmark the performance improvement in comparison to lets say a stock X2.
Regards,
Ani
Testing. It seems to work.
Piece of crap phone; it doesn't matter if I burn it.
Cheers.
Jolo_ said:
Testing. It seems to work.
Piece of crap phone; it doesn't matter if I burn it.
Cheers.
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I'm whit you
Applied it, works 100% and I love it.
Cheers mates for sharing this!
sounds interesting.... anyone noticed a major reduction in battery life as a result of this?
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sounds interesting.... anyone noticed a major reduction in battery life as a result of this?
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Nope. For me is performing the same as before, even with Push and 3G enabled.
The phone seems even more stable.
Cheers.
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I havent experimented too much but this is the first result of the two mentioned programs mixed together (stirred , not shaken ) when installed on the X2
Just launch nueOverClockTest (it will put your CPU @ 768Mhz).
then launch Msm7kCpuSpeed (it will show 960MHz)
then exit from Msm7kCpuSpeed (our CPU will be clocked @1056MHz, you can check reopening one of the two programs).
As you can see on the screenshots the overclock works also if the phone is battery powered.
No benchmark atm, but @1056Mhz the phone is reeeallyyy a pleasure to use.
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have you ever tried this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7463284&postcount=162
works very well (one week @729) with the tp2
7ommy said:
have you ever tried this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7463284&postcount=162
works very well (one week @729) with the tp2
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Yes, already tried, doesn't starts at all
"could not connect to OCT0:"
how long has ur phone remained overclock @ 1GHz? any SOD/freeze occured?
does ur phone gets unusually warmed due to overclocking it?
appreciate if u can feedback on improvement in running apps eg 3d games, video playback, etc.
cheers
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how long has ur phone remained overclock @ 1GHz? any SOD/freeze occured?
does ur phone gets unusually warmed due to overclocking it?
appreciate if u can feedback on improvement in running apps eg 3d games, video playback, etc.
cheers
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Mine works at 1056 MHz since Sep. 3rd without draining battery or overheating at all.
Yes apps run faster, video playback smoother even in WMP, no more glitches in music while surfing the net.
Most important is it's overall stable, no SOD or crashes here.
i have x2 freeze fr about 10 - 15 seconds. may be lacks of cabs install agter hard reset. who know. will need to re-install to check soon.
Heh
testing.. work !
WOW !! just tried overclocking a few hours ago...
I tried to hard reset to original MR2 state (without further removing slide view, panels etc whatsoever) and my X2 is more responsive and in lightning speed!
thanks
i really love this..its fantastic dude
hi guys i just noticed something strange on my x8 , there is some strange form of pixelation on my phone screen it appearsin some cases and it's most clear on this screen shot taken from dungeon hunter !
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screen shot from my device with strange dots (take a closer look) :
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you see this dot like pixelation on the screen shot !
screen shot from the internet showing the same place you can notice that image is more clear and ain't got these strange dots :
wat is wrong ? is it normal ? maybe a similar screen shot from the same area could make me sure please some one do it and take a screen shot from the same area in dungeon hunter please i use an app called shootme from the market it's free ! thanks
to be honest i don't see any problem right there
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to be honest i don't see any problem right there
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take a closer look lol
what is here strange??
It will be good to mark that pixels.
That's an HD game, maybe that's why your screen gets pixelated...
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That's an HD game, maybe that's why your screen gets pixelated...
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Yeah...that was my first thought X8 wasn't meant for hd
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That's an HD game, maybe that's why your screen gets pixelated...
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no i don't think so because i notice this in other places too not just in hd games...
anyways if you look closely you will see strange lookinf dots all over the screen can't be marked cause they are all over the pic but just needs a closer look
Are you using the Stock ROM or a custom one? If you are using a CM6 or CM7 based ROM, go in the cyanogenmod settings -> Performance settings and enable surface dithering. After a reboot, the quality of the display should increase.
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Are you using the Stock ROM or a custom one? If you are using a CM6 or CM7 based ROM, go in the cyanogenmod settings -> Performance settings and enable surface dithering. After a reboot, the quality of the display should increase.
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i'm using cm6 1.0.0
tried this and still the same , could this be a faulty screen ? but if it was a faulty screen i guess it won't show up in the screen shots !
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Yeah...that was my first thought X8 wasn't meant for hd
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could u post a screen shot taken from the same game and same place so i can make sure if this normal or not ?!
I'm also suffering of this when i installed Gingerfroyo rom on my x8. Could be a rendering mode for this rom, or something like that. It's kind of annoying, but i noticed it only does when rendering 3D graphics (live wallpapers, games). Anyone know how to get rid of this?
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I'm also suffering of this when i installed Gingerfroyo rom on my x8. Could be a rendering mode for this rom, or something like that. It's kind of annoying, but i noticed it only does when rendering 3D graphics (live wallpapers, games). Anyone know how to get rid of this?
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maybe our phone is normal like this
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maybe our phone is normal like this
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yes, it is.
i was switching 3 roms (stock, flyoy & minicm) because of same problem in fruitninja just to find out that game dithered background on all of them...
...I see it too on my HD dolphin browser
But my phone never show the .jpg files write. Colors are mess up and the quality sims horible.
Same here, i never noticed this in stock 2.1 SE ROM, i think ill try again in 2.1
In that Screenshot I am using FroyoBread v012, is this a problem to all custom ROM? it is visible even in Gallery.
i Hope theres a Fix for this
Hei, i let my phone charghing a night and in morning when i put my hand in the phone, was verry hot .. unusualy hot ... i accessed an aplication that tells me the battry temperature .. and the temperature was 50 degrees ... . I oppened the back lid and behind the sim card i saw a melt .. The plastic has melted ... what could cause that? The phone is working but the battery said evry time is empty ... when i put to charge it sais charging but in that time sais and battery empty .
Battery burnt out. send it back for warranty.
it`s only the battery? the phone has a little melt .. i will try to get a picture ... should i send and the phone to waranty or only the battery?
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it`s only the battery? the phone has a little melt .. i will try to get a picture ... should i send and the phone to waranty or only the battery?
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both. and send the charger with it. For something that extreme you deserve everything new.
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I will go to a shop to see if the phone works with a new batteri .. you can see ont he picture how is melted .. should i send and the phone too?
BAAAAAAAAD SAMSUNG!!!!!
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RMA the whole shebang, a molten phone is unacceptable.
There must be something wrong.
I've tried using graphic intense games and benchmark programs, and charge my battery often, just to try to get it hot.
It gets warm, so you can feel it, but never more than that.
I run Lite'ning rom 4.2 with Black theme, Android 2.3.4 and KG3 .
so is possible that the warranty not accept my phone?
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so is possible that the warranty not accept my phone?
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omg i will request exchange a whole new unit no matter how
did u use custom rom?
Did you overclock?
I'm stock and have lots of apps installed and never had a problem with overheating. I downloaded a news app and ten minutes later my phone got hotter than it's ever been before. I removed the app and it's been fine since. Certain apps appear either not to play well with GB or Exynos and have the potential to overheat the phone.
I've never really seen any app or HD game that puts MORE heat than angry birds, infact for a dualcore it runs insanely cool.. I've tried upping the GPU from 267Mhz to 400Mhz and I still dont feel anything that runs warmer.
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I'm stock and have lots of apps installed and never had a problem with overheating. I downloaded a news app and ten minutes later my phone got hotter than it's ever been before. I removed the app and it's been fine since. Certain apps appear either not to play well with GB or Exynos and have the potential to overheat the phone.
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I'm curious as to what app that was..
First of all duel core is soppose to be cooler the single cores and also use less power then single core so the hole point to the duel core thing is more speed and less battery power and less temp.
If ur melt was caused after u rooted it or/and u used a custom rom u need to put back a stock rom or ur warrenty will be invalid.
oh my word! Defective battery?
It could be a defective battery, which led to an overloaded pin (which got very hot) in the phone. I would return both phone with battery and charger, to get all checked.
The heat required to melt the plastic (about 150-200 degrees celcius) is able to melt any solderings on the mainboards inside the phone, so it should be checked. But probably no harm done, as the backside sits above the mainboard, and the mainboard is attached to the frontframe (screen side) of the phone. I would request a checkup, and a new backplate, if it was me - which is a small repair, in less than 10 minutes...
Sent from my korean dual-core beast
no, i just root my phone, and installed 120 applications. what should i do that samsung shlud not see that i root my phone?
sebyku said:
no, i just root my phone, and installed 120 applications. what should i do that samsung shlud not see that i root my phone?
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Just flash back to stock, if your stock firmware is available.
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I'm curious as to what app that was..
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Not really heat wise, but I can tell you that Grand Prix Story drains battery like a gold digger who just met Bill Gates. Playing the game continuously gives me 2, yes 2 hours of battery life! 100% to 5% in 2 hours!
Which is sad because Kairosoft is one of my favourite game developers.
Instagram causes overheating on my Galaxy. When its i stalled and work in backround my CPU load is high and battery drain + overheating. Why? Is my phone corrupted?
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What is the evidence that your phone is overheating? Your screen shot shows a temperature of 50C and an apparent peak of 70C. If you had looked at existing posts on this subject, you'd know that these temperatures are well within the normal operating range..
You need to spell out your assumptions and provide a lot more information. Do you think 50C is overheating? What temperatures do you see when transcoding a movie, gaming or some other processor intensive activity? Are you using a bunker type (very thick) case? How long does Instagram keep the processor busy after you stop using it?
Do you have any reason or evidence of corruption? Did you experience any system error messages and if so what were they, verbatim? On the basis of the limited details you posted nothing is wrong, your phone didn't overheat and you have no reason to be concerned.
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This app shows 72.50°C not 50. You didnt't read properly. Its hard to touch my Galaxy with that temp. When i kill Instagram working in background with Clean Master it stops overheat. No case used.
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What is the evidence that your phone is overheating? Your screen shot shows a temperature of 50C and an apparent peak of 70C. If you had looked at existing posts on this subject, you'd know that these temperatures are well within the normal operating range..
You need to spell out your assumptions and provide a lot more information. Do you think 50C is overheating? What temperatures do you see when transcoding a movie, gaming or some other processor intensive activity? Are you using a bunker type (very thick) case? How long does Instagram keep the processor busy after you stop using it?
Do you have any reason or evidence of corruption? Did you experience any system error messages and if so what were they, verbatim? On the basis of the limited details you posted nothing is wrong, your phone didn't overheat and you have no reason to be concerned.
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It says 72.50 rofl
Haha. When i first openned this app had the same problem. Stupid but yes it's 72,50. Anyway another screen. Its something wrong with Instagram app or my phone? Now device is cooler but as you can see it's about Instagram app.
Instagram works fine on my phone, why don't you try reinstalling the app? Sounds stupid but it might fix the problem, you never know :silly:
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This app shows 72.50°C not 50. You didnt't read properly.
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The app does not show 72.50°C. It actually shows "72." and on a separate line, "50°C". Making it ambiguous at best what the 72 represents. It's certainly not clear that the two lines are meant to be combined.
Regardless, you're missing the essential point again. 72.50C is also well within the normal operating range. All that temperature tells you is that your processor is under heavy load at the moment. You still haven't provided any information about how often this happens, how long it stays at the level or much of anything else.
72C is not some untenable temperature just because some third party app (that you didn't even mention in your original post) issues a caution. And that is all that is. A caution that your temperature is on the high end of normal at the moment.
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