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galaxy s gets gingerbread before atrix?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?

True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.

neotekz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?

Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3

blaque72 said:
Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.

Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....

Silent8Strike said:
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.

drock212 said:
Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.

neotekz said:
not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4

ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
raybond25 said:
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.

Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?

neotekz said:
ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.

Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329

bigb252 said:
+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.

Samsung offers Android 2.3 “Gingerbread” upgrade for Galaxy S

Maybe we'll see the official soon?
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/tech/view.do?boardName=technology&messageId=115746

Yep, also announced on the 16th I think... It won't be much longer...
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Sweet !! ill get to play with it for like a day before E3D comes out.

tbob18 said:
Maybe we'll see the official soon?
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/tech/view.do?boardName=technology&messageId=115746
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Maybe, if you're "in the UK from late May."

iSaint said:
Sweet !! ill get to play with it for like a day before E3D comes out.
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So that's what it's being called around xda? E3D?
Not Hyper Threading Computerized Evolved virtual operated three dee?
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Don't count on Sprint releasing it until late June. When the articles talk about Galaxy S phones they are mostly talking I9000 in Europe. Samsung releases the code to US carriers, they screw it up, Samsung tries to fix it, they screw it up some more, they release it, pull it back. Release it.
Do you BONSAI?

It sounds like even if it won't be untill late June they are trying to be more on the ball after making us wait so long for Froyo. I remember getting my Epic a month after it came out and the guy at the store reassured me that Froyo would be out by the end of Sept lol. Not that I don't take everything they say with a large grain of salt.
After trying out EE03 I'm very excited for GB to drop on the Epic

kennyglass123 said:
Don't count on Sprint releasing it until late June. When the articles talk about Galaxy S phones they are mostly talking I9000 in Europe. Samsung releases the code to US carriers, they screw it up, Samsung tries to fix it, they screw it up some more, they release it, pull it back. Release it.
Do you BONSAI?
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They seem to start getting the memo after releasing it then pulling it atleast, right? hahaha

Galaxy S Gingerbread OTA Rolling out in Europe???

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/31/galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-lands-in-the-uk-better-late-than-ne/
I see this is already posted, but why is Engadget just picking this up? Is this a bigger deal now? I know we're U.S. CDMA, so does that mean this new OTA means absolutely nothing for us? Until it officially comes to the U.S. eventually? With how long the 2.2 update took I'm really nervous we'd never get an update but if they're already rolling out across Europe... anyone know anything else? I'm getting my Fascinate on Friday!!!

This isnt for us at all. We will get GB, but not for awhile (my guess is September/october)
Dont try an flash this puppy, you will be in for a world of hurt

piizzadude said:
This isnt for us at all. We will get GB, but not for awhile (my guess is September/october)
Dont try an flash this puppy, you will be in for a world of hurt
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Nothing to flash, it's an OTA update. The link is just a link to the Engadget story. And looks like GB 2.3.3 is being pushed out not 2.3.4. Don't know the difference, but I know there is a 2.3.4 out there.

Sooner or later someone will put it in flashable form so I figured I would just throw that out to save (mostly you guru's) someone the pain of "I flashed i9000 GB..." threads

piizzadude said:
Sooner or later someone will put it in flashable form so I figured I would just throw that out to save (mostly you guru's) someone the pain of "I flashed i9000 GB..." threads
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I once flashed a i9000 froyo rom, no big deal.
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.

Aren't they all GSM phones?

Shinebox said:
Aren't they all GSM phones?
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Yes, they are. Still, even though Verizon will no doubt take months on end to push out gb, assuming they don't EOL this phone first, we still might get Mesmerize gb before then (like we got Mesmerize EC10 Froyo before we got ED01 from Verizon)
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I'm guessing we get it december 22 2012
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tyler1234567 said:
I'm guessing we get it december 22 2012
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Makes sense since GB for our phone most likely would mean the end of the world

tyler1234567 said:
I'm guessing we get it december 22 2012
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You mean for the unofficial leak? Because the Fascinate will be EOL'ed by Verizon long before that.
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its so ridiculous how fast manufacturers push out new devices. yay you have the latest and greatest! and you just shat all over everyone who's had your phone for a year. wtf man. ha. i had an eris, and really don't think this phone should ever be in the same boat as that phone. never should've bought that eris, should've gone straight to the Droid 1. so does no one do GSM to CDMA conversions? They did a couple for my Eris (thank you punk.kaos) and for the Droid 1, the "Mobile Networks" option was usually the only thing not working eventually. I'm new the fascinate, actually not getting mine till tomorrow, but I'm really eager to get a truly open phone. my droid 2 was killing me bro. oh well, so long as we get gingerbread eventually. and honestly if CM7 is ready before the end of June, who needs an OTA? Android Devs FTW!!!

jmcintire said:
You mean for the unofficial leak? Because the Fascinate will be EOL'ed by Verizon long before that.
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It's a joke, because the end of the world (according to conspiracy freaks who take everything they read to the Nth degree) according to the Mayan calendar is 12/21/2012, or the Winter solstice of 2012.

AlexDeGruven said:
It's a joke, because the end of the world (according to conspiracy freaks who take everything they read to the Nth degree) according to the Mayan calendar is 12/21/2012, or the Winter solstice of 2012.
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The guys who made the Mayan calendar probably stopped at 2012 because they were just tired of making calendars and figured "surely someone will pick up where we left off sometime in the next 2000 years"
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lol, yeah. If you look at the calendar, it's a giant wheel.
They probably thought "Hey, instead of adding ANOTHER ring to this, why don't we just create a new calendar once 2012 rolls around?"

Jelly Bean Update Rolling Out Tomorrow

http://brobuffet.com/2012/07/18/nexus-s-jelly-bean-roll-out-coming-tomorrow/

you know I just wanna put something out there... Google said mid-july (not sure if they said only for galaxy nexus or for all devices) but can anyone see the same thing happening with jelly bean as did with ICS? this is gonna be a brutal wait i guarentee....
I'm only saying this to jinx myself and hopefully the OTA comes tmrw.

This is just speculation.

Of course it's coming out tomorrow....just like it came out yesterday, the day before, on friday....because if Vodafone Australia says it's coming out tomorrow, that means it's true
I do hope it's gonna come out soon, but I doubt it's gonna be tomorrow, just because a provider says it is.

MRsf27 said:
you know I just wanna put something out there... Google said mid-july (not sure if they said only for galaxy nexus or for all devices) but can anyone see the same thing happening with jelly bean as did with ICS? this is gonna be a brutal wait i guarentee....
I'm only saying this to jinx myself and hopefully the OTA comes tmrw.
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Yeah, hopefully it will. I don't see why it wouldn't
FloHimself said:
This is just speculation.
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Speculation it may be, but Google have confirmed a "mid-July" release, and if Vodafone say it's coming tomorrow we have no reason to disbelieve.
Logomotph said:
Of course it's coming out tomorrow....just like it came out yesterday, the day before, on friday....because if Vodafone Australia says it's coming out tomorrow, that means it's true
I do hope it's gonna come out soon, but I doubt it's gonna be tomorrow, just because a provider says it is.
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If a provider has set a time and date so close, I don't see why it wouldn't be released tomorrow. Yes, it is possible that the release may be delayed but I can't think why. Manufacturers have had early access to Jelly Bean so it's about time some devices received updates.
EDIT : There have been no other official claims of an official release. Mid-July is all people had to go on. But people started making silly guesses. Many thought it would be released on the 4th or the 13th. But there was little reason for this.

MiniDolan said:
If a provider has set a time and date so close, I don't see why it wouldn't be released tomorrow. Yes, it is possible that the release may be delayed but I can't think why. Manufacturers have had early access to Jelly Bean so it's about time some devices received updates.
EDIT : There have been no other official claims of an official release. Mid-July is all people had to go on. But people started making silly guesses. Many thought it would be released on the 4th or the 13th. But there was little reason for this.
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I'm just gonna wait for an official Google announcement. Providers can say whatever they want just to make people buy things.
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There's about 5 topics about this already, including a locked one like four topics down
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There's about 5 topics about this already, including a locked one like four topics down
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My bad. But I fail to see any threads in the Nexus S General Forum :S There is one regarding a French carrier.

Yes, they said mid-july for all devices.
Difference to ICS: We have an announced release-date (more or less exact). Last time they shipped 4.0.3 as a surprise, pulled it after a few days and then remained silent for 3 months until 4.0.4 came out.
Big difference.

Logomotph said:
I'm just gonna wait for an official Google announcement. Providers can say whatever they want just to make people buy things.
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There won't be anymore announcements.. Google already said mid-July.. The last announcement they will probably do will be the day that OTA will start, but they don't need to... And I'm not sure why would Vodafone lie with it to gain more costumers (or buy Nexus S), since you can't buy it from providers already

Lordofminor said:
There won't be anymore announcements.. Google already said mid-July.. The last announcement they will probably do will be the day that OTA will start, but they don't need to... And I'm not sure why would Vodafone lie with it to gain more costumers (or buy Nexus S), since you can't buy it from providers already
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I was referring to a "We're rolling out the OTA for the Nexus S" announcement.

I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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lowtje said:
I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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The article just repeats the Vodafone OZ info.
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lowtje said:
I'm not German, but here is some info too
http://m.diepresse.com/home/techscience/mobil/android/1268697/index.do
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just a recap what vodafone says.
I dont get why everyone feels the need to open up a new thread about this instead of going to the countdown thread! You guys seriously need to think about your lifes. Get out, do something fun and for god'S sake leave your computer or xda untouched for a day. It's really not healthy to be so obsessed about JB. I'm excited, too but i'd rather go for a sunbath than sitting in front of my computer waiting for an ota which does not come.
Why are you even so excited about what a carrier or a french blog says? I don't give a single sh... about them. I'm just interested in what google says. Don't get your hopes up cause of this! You will most likely just be disappointed. Same thing with these screenshots about the 4.0.4 ota with this date. Everyone is so damn sure that JB will be pushed when we hit this date. So, OTA is expected to hit us FOR SURE!!! every day since like the 8th...
Long story short: CHILL OUT!!
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Damn right Mike.b93... Do I see some similarity with iphoners sleeping on the street just to be the first to get a 5S or a 6S?
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joliv said:
Damn right Mike.b93... Do I see some similarity with iphoners sleeping on the street just to be the first to get a 5S or a 6S?
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We are at least as insane as iPhone users. except we are not sleeping in the street waiting for a new phone, we are staying awake waiting for a freaking OTA! At first i did that too but to be honest after a few days it gets way too pathetic for me. I enjoy my life outside the house. Thats how I wait! and i can recommend that!

Guess we all love the Nexus S...I was anxious too when going from GB to ICS. Best is left time roll and get JB when time comes not beeing a priority... But that comes with age though
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the lack of excitement here is unfathomable. of course its exciting and besides its the dead of winter for me so I have no sun to bathe in.

Brobuffet? Oh dear.....
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yeah i think all voda customers are going ot be happy here in australia. its a pity i bought my phone from voda then unlocked it and am using it with a diff carrier. do if anyone gets the update, can they post the link here?

Motorola Announcement: No ICS for Atrix/Photon

Motorola updated their update page today: forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Now says:
ATRIX 4G (MB860): Gingerbread (Android 2.3) rollout began in July 2011. Further plans coming soon.
It was supossed that Atrix 4G was receiving ICS for third quarter (which end this september 30).
I'm really disapointed with Motorola/Google. They says this after they promised an update on February.

"Further plans coming soon."
Still some hope. Let's keep optimism on the Atrix XDA board...
Also its status has been "refreshed"... Which means there's activity.

LOL. I just checked the page last night and it still had the "In development, rollout begins in Q3" message. Now it's as you say.
Ah well. In the long run, it's just a phone that does cool stuff. Many thanks to everyone who figured out how to decrypt the bootloader, open up the capabilities this phone has, and were willing to show the rest of us how to do it. In another year the majority of us will be on another phone anyway, it's the nature of the tech beast.

sad story..., they did change the Canada one to staying on 2.3 and the EU (had no update before) one to the same as the US one

That's a shame. I wanted the goodies ics brings with hardware acceleration and a better use of my lapdock. Hopefully they at least release drivers/kernels so the devs can make it work.

kaiwid23 said:
There must be some difference between staying on 2.3 and further plans.
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Input error I'd bet

The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
EDIT: They've only said that the Canadian Atrix isn't getting upda... wait. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-

nerfman100 said:
The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
+1
At most, it should say that Atrix update is no longer is Q3...
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marcovrv said:
nerfman100 said:
The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
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At most, it should say that Atrix update is no longer is Q3...
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What a horrible title. The fact that a bunch of other phones say "Will remain on Gingerbread" should tell you that the update isn't cancelled yet for the USA Atrix because it says "Further plans coming soon". At this point they are obviously way behind the Q3 date they said before, but if it they weren't working on it I doubt they would tell us that plans were coming later.
Read this article. Soni says they are talking with the different teams and establishing dates they know they can hit. That article is about the Bionic which was planned for early Q3 and now they're going to get it in Q4. Like Soni said, they will be sticking to the dates they set and obviously the Atrix isn't as far along as we all hoped and they can't accurately project a date. Wait until it says all Atrix phones are staying on Gingerbread before posting something like this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...raw-deal-new-motorola-will-try-to-fix-things/

I don't get why the Canadian update was cancelled. This means that I'll never get to see stock Motoblur ICS. And ICSBlur actually seems to be good, unlike GingerBlur (not to be confused with the custom ROM).

Well.. time for some questioning.. especially after receiving this only a few days ago:
"Dear Ryan,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola.
I do apologize but we currently do not have any notifications regarding the exact release date of the official Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for the Motorola ATRIX 4G. It is scheduled to roll out as an over the air upgrade this third quarter of 2012. You will receive a notification on your device once the upgrade is already available for download. I'm so sorry for the inconvenience."
This next response oughta be interesting.

No custom!
kaiwid23 said:
You can always get custom roms
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I don't want custom ROM...:silly:

Maaan ((
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Maaan ((
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Here's a tip: Adding mouths to your emotes doesn't make them mean more. :silly:

There's already a Atrix ICS thread, please use this one for this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499788
Thank You.
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