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sooo, anyone else *#*#checkin#*#* yet?

I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.

As far as I know, gingerbread isn't even out yet. Just the sdk.

twflys said:
I know I am not the only one... man, when Froyo came out it was OCD.
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Naw not really
Pretty sure Google wants to have the Nexus S come out first on the 16th and then OTA the update to us on the 17th or so

Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.

pfmiller said:
Yeah, ask again next Thursday. No reason to believe we'll see it before then.
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Unless the famous Football has anything to do with it. If I don't see a leak for the nexus by next wednesday, I'd be surprised
I'm pretty wrapped up in senseui 2.0 right now, gingerbread can wait

What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.

I suspect we'll have to wait longer than 1 day.

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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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How about they sell more Nexus S devices because geeks can't wait to get their hands on Gingerbread so they rush out to buy the phone anyways? Surely we all know it's coming to the Nexus S but look at the thread title, people are going nuts for Gingerbread as it is! LOL
Surely they could just do what Apple does and release the update the day before for the older phones but i guess we'll see

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What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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There is a good reason to wait.
Now when the SDK is out all the developers can test their apps against the Gingerbread and fix all the bugs and incompatibilities.
What do you think would happen, if goog realeases their 2.3 update and some popular apps don't work anymore? This forum would literally explode with screams like "fix this immediately or else", "I hate google", "gingerbread killed my cat" and so on. Why google would do that to themselves?

Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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There is no check for updates in the settings, that's how.

skunz35 said:
Jw but how is doing the dial in update thing different from the check for updates in the settings?
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I'm sure he's doing both just in case one yields different results. Supposedly I've heard that the Settings Updater doesn't always check, but caches the answer for an allotted time. Doing a "checkin" actually goes out and pings google (or wherever) and comes back with a result after a few seconds. The Settings app just flat out tells you no.

@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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skunz35 said:
@Rusty is says there is under the about phone section
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No there isn't. That section doesn't 'check' for updates, it tells you the result of the last system check for updates, which is done automatically, or forced through the dialer.
Going to that part of the settings does not force a check.

Damn, beat me too it Clarky

geemaan said:
What's the point of waiting just for the next day to release the ota for n1? There's no real gain in that for google.
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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.

Yeah they will probably either delay it to just after Dec 16th or release it some time next week. I'm betting on just after though.

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The point would be so that the Nexus S can be marketed as the first phone with Gingerbread.
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True, but its not like they would lose any buyers anyway.
The N1 is only sold as a dev phone. And how many ppl have a N1? compared to SGS or others...
Also, like when they released froyo...many apps didnt work with 2.2 and had to be updated.
There are alot of devs out there with a N1 as a devphone. Giving out 2.3 before the NS release thus giving time for the devs to update their apps before launch would give android better publicity. And happier customers
I dont know if this is an issue with 2.3 though...
(I know the SDK is out)

I was referring to 1 day vs 1 week or more. More seems more appropriate, as you all say.

The only place I'll be "checkin" with is the Development section chef's.

Please delete this thread

Mods. Please delete this. The date has already passed. FroYo will come out never. Done.

the skeptic in me will remain skeptical until i see something from sprint, but thank you for the info i have some hope since t-mo has their update available, maybe sprint will be more motivated to end the bad press and user backlash... time will tell.

Maybe a dev can choime in they always seem to have to inside track
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Ecocee mentioned EA16 being a release candidate earlier in the week. Lets hope that we see something soon.
Funny, once some big-name websites (pcmag, yahoo finance, etc) started calling foul-play, Samsung and the carriers can magically get their updates out...

Neptune5k said:
Ecocee mentioned EA16 being a release candidate earlier in the week. Lets hope that we see something soon.
Funny, once some big-name websites (pcmag, yahoo finance, etc) started calling foul-play, Samsung and the carriers can magically get their updates out...
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You are right! We should have made a stink back is November! Maybe the best thing to do from now on is to always raise a super-stink the minute a company misses their "promised" date. Then things get delivered!
JD

This screams of politics
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This screams of politics
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I agree. It seems like things are finally coming around, but something still stinks behind the scenes. At the very least my guesstimate is that the updates were a very very low priority for either Samsung, the carriers, or both.

So when do we start the *****ing about not having Gingerbread? Wednesday morning?

muyoso said:
So when do we start the *****ing about not having Gingerbread? Wednesday morning?
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I got company coming into town next weekend, so i'm gonna wait til the following monday
/sarcasm

muyoso said:
So when do we start the *****ing about not having Gingerbread? Wednesday morning?
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We should wait till the Nexus One gets theirs then we start shouting at the top of our lungs, or start now, or just start a class action lawsuit. Which do you want to do?
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adamw1101 said:
This screams of politics
And as always wary Sprint be the last to pull the trigger on this and get beat, again by the competition
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Androidcentral just posted a sprint memo saying they didnt have a release date for froyo yet...

There its now a new rumor saying that Samsung is going to give out Gingerbread at the beginning of Second Quarter.
Source: http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
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There its now a new rumor saying that Samsung is going to give out Gingerbread at the beginning of Second Quarter.
Source: http://phandroid.com/2011/01/22/rum...axy-tab-to-get-gingerbread-beginning-of-q211/
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To the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab, neither of which do us any good.

So when do we start the *****ing about not having Gingerbread? Wednesday morning?
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I don't really care much about a timeline for Gingerbread atm. I just want to be able to test my own Adobe AIR apps on my own phone. Once I can do that, I'll be happy.

I doubt.it will be this Tuesday cause every article I read says they have no clue when update will be given just that it will be soon. This sounds like the 12/26 thing again where all these people had the inside informants and it was def. Happening. Look where that went
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themirthfulswami said:
I don't really care much about a timeline for Gingerbread atm. I just want to be able to test my own Adobe AIR apps on my own phone. Once I can do that, I'll be happy.
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That's why I installed dk28. Air works great, just a teeny bit of lag when you start an app.

I wish they would say **** froyo and just start work on gingerbread
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musclehead84 said:
I doubt.it will be this Tuesday cause every article I read says they have no clue when update will be given just that it will be soon. This sounds like the 12/26 thing again where all these people had the inside informants and it was def. Happening. Look where that went
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Just for the record,I never said Tuesday,and 12/26 was deffinitly the planned release date at one point. So I wouldnt doubt sources,things dont always work out... And just because the update is not in the playbook does not mean we wont see one next week OTA... But I will say this for sure, source "Talks around the water cooler say everyone should be updated by 1/31/2011",so that tells me that roll out should start on or before 1/26/2011,so Tuesday or Wednesday... Again Im not gonna call that the date this time,because I already see the flame throwers coming out of the wood work.
Oh,and I can promise you Gingerbread is being worked on also...

IISI, IWBI...
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3G Xoom 3.2 Update

Anyone know why the 3G Xooms did not receive the update to 3.2? It seems kind of surprising to me that the earliest adopters were not the first to receive the update.

verizon are probably having to test and push it out is my guess

Lothaen said:
verizon are probably having to test and push it out is my guess
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Hmm good point.

i may be wrong... but I don't think VZW has a steak in the fire on this one.

I thinking we will get it when we send in our xoom to get the 4g upgrade. They will probably want to do it all at once, though I could be wrong.
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sirius b said:
I thinking we will get it when we send in our xoom to get the 4g upgrade. They will probably want to do it all at once, though I could be wrong.
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How do you think it would be advantageous for them to do it during LTE upgrade?
Remember, many people will choose not to send in their Xooms.
Also, there's an existing infrastructure in place to handle the updates by MEID, over the air.
I'm not saying it won't happen your way, I'm just not able to think of any compelling reason to change the usual update method.

My only reason I think this, is based on installing the LTE modem, flashing the software, configuring it and testing it to make sure it works. I could be wrong but that's my train of thought. Otherwise I'd assume we would be seeing the update already just like the before. Remember wifi deployed alongside 3g last time. I am just making an assumption so if my thought process is off please let me know
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no they won't do that...we will get an ota and after update then you will be able to send it in

binglut9 said:
no they won't do that...we will get an ota and after update then you will be able to send it in
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I hope so, trust me I would hope that I am wrong on my comments.
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I hope we dont have to wait for the modem upgrade. That being said; I had to wait 8 days for 3.1 here in Austin TX.
Would be nice if they sent the upgrade out on demand.

optic76 said:
I hope we dont have to wait for the modem upgrade. That being said; I had to wait 8 days for 3.1 here in Austin TX.
Would be nice if they sent the upgrade out on demand.
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Yea well don't take that it as an option, I was just speculating. I know nothing is worse then when people take speculation and run with it as truth.
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According to their twitter acct - "U.S. Motorola XOOM users: Android 3.2 rolling out in phases for Wi-Fi only devices. Verizon users can expect rollout in the coming weeks."
So whatever "......in the coming weeks" equates to time but it sure don't sound like soon......

Unfortunately, "In the coming weeks" in Google land means 1-2 months.

kmchiang said:
According to their twitter acct - "U.S. Motorola XOOM users: Android 3.2 rolling out in phases for Wi-Fi only devices. Verizon users can expect rollout in the coming weeks."
So whatever "......in the coming weeks" equates to time but it sure don't sound like soon......
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El Daddy said:
Unfortunately, "In the coming weeks" in Google land means 1-2 months.
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several weeks!

The worst is you guys are getting the 3.2 update, but me in little sweden havent even got the 3.1. And none sems to know when sweden will get the update.
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Somehow I knew this was going to happen.
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iccy said:
The worst is you guys are getting the 3.2 update, but me in little sweden havent even got the 3.1. And none sems to know when sweden will get the update.
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only cause we are using the US wifi image
sadly very few people have a Moto 3.1 update (only Jap China so far?)

suprised?
In Europ we didn't receive any update. And in the us they having 3.2 all ready. Even when we wanna root it& update it our self we can not do it. Becase there is no non us wifi/3g availabel 3.1 update. How suprised are we, after reading all that sweets and Nice in the USA. Hope that we gonna get itm ever. Would google know about Motorola's update mess.

I hate Verizon, they are so picky!!

johnny0911 said:
I hate Verizon, they are so picky!!
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It wouldn't kill them to make a public announcement about why on Facebook or their own website. Instead we like leaving customers in the dark.
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ICS 4.0.5 "suspended" ...

Yes... ICS 4.0.5 is suspended for Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus...
Source by SFR : http://android.sfr.fr/maj-optimisez-votre-mobile-android-mettez-le-a-jour-previsions-9

What about 4.0.4?
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damn Google!
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oh great... google is really messing this up then, eh?
yeah well, better than a faulty OTA.
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What about 4.0.4?
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you really think a french provider would post info about the 4.0.4-update on sprint?!

I do not believe it!
Would wait until the end of March by the OTA, but I see I'll have to install a ROM alternative!
Let's see if Google decides on something, or if it appears other related news!

Yep yep. Google does it again.. but yeah like i read above, i better wait longer than a faulty OTA..
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Google stated less than two weeks ago 4.0.4 wasn't even complete yet. This French site is just trying to cover up their shoddy reporting.

Shame on Google this time...

pegasolabs said:
Shame on Google this time...
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Shame on Google for what?

In the Q&A, someone from SFR clarifies that the update has been delayed and they don't have an ETA yet. That's all it means. We didn't have an ETA before, so in effect nothing has changed.

This French site is making it up as they go along. They are talking out of their rear end.
I'm happy with 4.0.3. so what is the rush?

Why would Google give inside information to some tin-pot French operator when they have bigger fish to fry with their bigger markets?
They are bullshitting.
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Yeah, it makes zero sense. Google isn't "suspending" an update that never existed to begin with. They are surely working on 4.0.4 or whatever comes next and will release it as soon as it passes the QA tests.

Nexus-S said:
Why would Google give inside information to some tin-pot French operator when they have bigger fish to fry with their bigger markets?
They are bullshitting.
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Lol... that tin-pot provider is pretty big in France, which is a part of the not so small European market. And as far as I remember, us Europeans are the only ones so far who've got an official update. (Plus the American off-shoot, T-Mobile, of course).

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Lol... that tin-pot provider is pretty big in France, which is a part of the not so small European market. And as far as I remember, us Europeans are the only ones so far who've got an official update. (Plus the American off-shoot, T-Mobile, of course).
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It is also the only source of this rumor and has never been verified by any outside source. Therefore, I tend to believe it is nonsense. And it seems the initial report was inaccurate so it is hard to blame Google for information they didn't release that was not true.

Google must be doing something really big in the next update. Otherwise they wouldn't have delayed it for 3 months.
Or maybe Google devs are too much busy with 5.0 that they are hardly concerned with further updates on ICS.
Just wild guesses. Waiting for a surprise from Google.
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HAKA said:
Google must be doing something really big in the next update. Otherwise they wouldn't have delayed it for 3 months.
Or maybe Google devs are too much busy with 5.0 that they are hardly concerned with further updates on ICS.
Just wild guesses. Waiting for a surprise from Google.
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My thoughts exactly. They must be cooking up something good.
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Not that I want Google to rush or anything, but I must say ICS on my Nexus S (Tmobile) runs quite poorly. Things hiccup and lag a bit, and when returning to the home screen (especially from Chrome or games), the home screen icons can take upwards of 5+ seconds to load. It happens frequently, and is quite frustrating.
Don't get me wrong, I love ICS, but owning a Nexus device to get the latest update is slightly overrated if it means my year+ old phone can't run it well due to hardware limitations. Kind of makes the second year of owning this device less enjoyable.
I'm hoping an update will address this.

bozzykid said:
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For not realising a bugfixed version of ICS or not releasing practically any version at all on some models. It's the first time that google experience phones will get update after the others...and the comments after mine seem not to disagree so much...

How is something that was never officially planned be suspended??

Motorola Announcement: No ICS for Atrix/Photon

Motorola updated their update page today: forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Now says:
ATRIX 4G (MB860): Gingerbread (Android 2.3) rollout began in July 2011. Further plans coming soon.
It was supossed that Atrix 4G was receiving ICS for third quarter (which end this september 30).
I'm really disapointed with Motorola/Google. They says this after they promised an update on February.

"Further plans coming soon."
Still some hope. Let's keep optimism on the Atrix XDA board...
Also its status has been "refreshed"... Which means there's activity.

LOL. I just checked the page last night and it still had the "In development, rollout begins in Q3" message. Now it's as you say.
Ah well. In the long run, it's just a phone that does cool stuff. Many thanks to everyone who figured out how to decrypt the bootloader, open up the capabilities this phone has, and were willing to show the rest of us how to do it. In another year the majority of us will be on another phone anyway, it's the nature of the tech beast.

sad story..., they did change the Canada one to staying on 2.3 and the EU (had no update before) one to the same as the US one

That's a shame. I wanted the goodies ics brings with hardware acceleration and a better use of my lapdock. Hopefully they at least release drivers/kernels so the devs can make it work.

kaiwid23 said:
There must be some difference between staying on 2.3 and further plans.
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Input error I'd bet

The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
EDIT: They've only said that the Canadian Atrix isn't getting upda... wait. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-

nerfman100 said:
The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
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At most, it should say that Atrix update is no longer is Q3...
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marcovrv said:
nerfman100 said:
The title of this thread is very, very inaccurate. Come on man, Moto never said that the update was really cancelled! I don't hate Junior Members, but seriously, I'm pissed right now.
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At most, it should say that Atrix update is no longer is Q3...
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You're missing the ending tag on that quote.
EDIT: It also messes it up if somebody else wants to quote you. :/
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What a horrible title. The fact that a bunch of other phones say "Will remain on Gingerbread" should tell you that the update isn't cancelled yet for the USA Atrix because it says "Further plans coming soon". At this point they are obviously way behind the Q3 date they said before, but if it they weren't working on it I doubt they would tell us that plans were coming later.
Read this article. Soni says they are talking with the different teams and establishing dates they know they can hit. That article is about the Bionic which was planned for early Q3 and now they're going to get it in Q4. Like Soni said, they will be sticking to the dates they set and obviously the Atrix isn't as far along as we all hoped and they can't accurately project a date. Wait until it says all Atrix phones are staying on Gingerbread before posting something like this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/09/2...raw-deal-new-motorola-will-try-to-fix-things/

I don't get why the Canadian update was cancelled. This means that I'll never get to see stock Motoblur ICS. And ICSBlur actually seems to be good, unlike GingerBlur (not to be confused with the custom ROM).

Well.. time for some questioning.. especially after receiving this only a few days ago:
"Dear Ryan,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola.
I do apologize but we currently do not have any notifications regarding the exact release date of the official Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for the Motorola ATRIX 4G. It is scheduled to roll out as an over the air upgrade this third quarter of 2012. You will receive a notification on your device once the upgrade is already available for download. I'm so sorry for the inconvenience."
This next response oughta be interesting.

No custom!
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You can always get custom roms
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I don't want custom ROM...:silly:

Maaan ((
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Maaan ((
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Here's a tip: Adding mouths to your emotes doesn't make them mean more. :silly:

There's already a Atrix ICS thread, please use this one for this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499788
Thank You.
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