[Q] Need a thin nose Stylus - Thinkpad Tablet General

Every stylus i found on the ebay has fat nose. The galaxy note's, however, has a really nice thin nose stylus. Can note's stylus be used on K1 or other tablets? In not, Has anybody found a thin nosed compatible one?

The Samsung Notes have a different interface for the stylus making them useless on other tablets. The stylus and screen are way different than the ones made by Lenovo.

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HD2 works with normal thick gloves!

Before I got my HD2, all I read was that iphones dont work with gloves due to the capacitive screen, I thought bummer when it snows here the same will apply to the HD2.
Having just come from a snowball fight, and taken loads of pics in the process, I was surprised that I could whith my huge thick gloves.
My question is, is this the same for all capactive screens?
maybe this is the reason why the touch screen doesn't work proper in many cases - it's too sensible, there is a too big electric field, therefore when using the virtual keyboard it happens that an other letter is displayed on the screen than you've pressed.
Just a thought but...... won't the tip of woolly/cotton gloves scratch the screen?
Well, mine sure doesn't. And I wish it would! I go to work on my bike and this is the season where I have to wear thick gloves. I'm afflicted like many of us by the "music stops" bug and I have to stop, take off my gloves and starts the player again. It's a pain!
It depends on the material of your gloves. As I mentioned in my tips thread, thin leather gloves DO work on capacitive screens such as HD2 and iPhone. However I also have another pair of leather gloves which have like a knitted wool lining which is quite thick (the lining not the leather) and was suprised to see them work too. I think it is probably because the wool lining holds the static from my finger that allows it to work. I think. I am not an expert in how capacitive screens work. I can happily type an sms without having to remove my gloves in this cold snowy weather.
Generally the thinner the glove material the better. Don't waste your money on these special capacitive finger tip gloves. There are far more better looking gloves out there. Just choose thin leather gloves to be certain they will work.
Should have mentioned that these arnt woolly but polyester with a thick inner lining,
Maybe its the reason for all those extra diagonal lines on the screen??
samsamuel said:
Just a thought but...... won't the tip of woolly/cotton gloves scratch the screen?
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really?? a knife, a scissor, keys wont scratch the screen but the wooly/cotton glove will????
conductive thread
today i received about a metre of conductive thread from ebay. (under 3 quid)
initial test show that this:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Making-A-Glove-Work-With-A-Touch-Screen/ is going to work really well.
my gloves are however massive so i'm going to get a higher quality, thinner pair and then with a few stitches i'll be nice and cosy.

Brief review of my I/G 10.1 Tab

Up here at the Clove blog.
Questions welcome.
Now with video! Datel Retro Wireless gaming is IN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oir-3FSG-5A
How does the screen feel? How hard is it to clean the screen from fingerprints?
Comparisons to the iPad's oleophobic surface coating would be nice.
Thanks
I need to play with my friends iPad 2 again to really answer that, but certainly it takes some cleaning on a pretty regular basis (the SGSII has a much better oil-resistant layer).
Nice review. I was thinking too that the placement of the buttons were weird. Well the whole top (to me) is weird because the the headphone jack is on the inner right. Most devices have it closer to an edge/corner so that the wire doesn't get in the way. I guess you can turn the thing upside down so the headphone jack is on the bottom, but what about video chatting during a layover in the airport? Turning it upside down would leave the camera on the bottom as well. I guess you could place the wire behind the tablet but then you loose some of that slack.
How is the mic sensitivity? I have an acer and recording and voice to text quality is very subpar. I also don't see microphone icon on the galaxy keyboard.
Is there Haptic feedback or vibration on this tablet?
Thanks.
sriram_s said:
How does the screen feel? How hard is it to clean the screen from fingerprints?
Comparisons to the iPad's oleophobic surface coating would be nice.
Thanks
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I'm wondering if anyone with an iPad could make this comparison with the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I noticed the Transformer's glass kinda sucked. While both my Transformer and iPad seemed to pickup finger prints the same, cleaning was MUCH easier on the iPad. Just a couple swipes with a dry microfiber cloth and they were gone. The Transformer I have to fog up the glass with my breath and wipe vigorously to get finger prints off.
Also the iPad glass feels extremely smooth, my finger glides with no resistance. Whatever magic on on that iPad glass, the Transformer doesn't have it, it's smooth, but not iPad smooth, there is noticeable resistance sliding my finger.
So with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I would love to know how easy the clean up is and how smooth it is, comparable to an iPad or iPad 2 if possible.
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I'm wondering if anyone with an iPad could make this comparison with the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I noticed the Transformer's glass kinda sucked. While both my Transformer and iPad seemed to pickup finger prints the same, cleaning was MUCH easier on the iPad. Just a couple swipes with a dry microfiber cloth and they were gone. The Transformer I have to fog up the glass with my breath and wipe vigorously to get finger prints off.
Also the iPad glass feels extremely smooth, my finger glides with no resistance. Whatever magic on on that iPad glass, the Transformer doesn't have it, it's smooth, but not iPad smooth, there is noticeable resistance sliding my finger.
So with the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I would love to know how easy the clean up is and how smooth it is, comparable to an iPad or iPad 2 if possible.
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I have both the Ipad 2 and the i/o tab. The screens seem identical, with the i/o tab looking much sharper and being slightly smoother. I can't really talk about fingerprints because i put zaggs on both devices, but the screen quality on the i/o tab was definitely on par if not better than the ipad 2.
Software is a different story
The 'naked' I/O screen is much more prone to collecting fingerprints than the iPad 2, although it otherwise edges it in terms of actual display characteristics I think.
The I/O Tab does have the option to enable haptic feedback for keypresses.

Toshiba thrive screen vs asus transformer

I know we are waiting to see about the gorila glass thing, but I read on a forum that it had capacitive touch... I'm not sure what that means, can some one explain to me? Looking at the Toshiba screen+ thing I am inclined to think the Toshiba screen will be better... not saying that as a fact or anything...
gorilla glass is a glass developed by corning and is much stronger and scratch resistant than normal glass.
i'm not an expert, but I think that capacitive touchscreens uses electricity to sense a touch.
The transformer has both of those technologies, and I'm pretty sure that the Toshiba tablet also has a capacitive touchscreen, but not gorilla glass.
There are THREE type of "Touchscreens"
1.) Laser grid ( example HP Touchsmart IQ series PC )
This type of touchscreen is actually NOT a touchscreen at all. It shoots out invisible lasers in a tight grid and see where the grid break when you put your finger on it.
2.) Resistive Touchscreens ( Example Nintendo DS and DSi and 3DS Series ) This touchscreen uses a type of pressure sensitive and very flimsy film to register and touch. This type of touchscreen is the cheapest option available and as a result are VERY crappy for gaming console and the like. However some WACOM devices use it perfectly for drawing and such.
3.) Capacitive Touchscreens ( example....Asus Transformer and most of all tablets these days ) This is the BEST type of touchscreen. With sensors that detect where you touch by measuring electricity from our bodies. This is the smart choice for all devices these days.
Hope that helps you out....and yes the TF has Gorilla Glass.
thanks!!!!
I also read in a review that the Thrive's LCD is nowhere as good as the Transformer's.
What review? I thought the tablet wasn't even out yet?
Digiguest said:
There are THREE type of "Touchscreens"
1.) Laser grid ( example HP Touchsmart IQ series PC )
This type of touchscreen is actually NOT a touchscreen at all. It shoots out invisible lasers in a tight grid and see where the grid break when you put your finger on it.
2.) Resistive Touchscreens ( Example Nintendo DS and DSi and 3DS Series ) This touchscreen uses a type of pressure sensitive and very flimsy film to register and touch. This type of touchscreen is the cheapest option available and as a result are VERY crappy for gaming console and the like. However some WACOM devices use it perfectly for drawing and such.
3.) Capacitive Touchscreens ( example....Asus Transformer and most of all tablets these days ) This is the BEST type of touchscreen. With sensors that detect where you touch by measuring electricity from our bodies. This is the smart choice for all devices these days.
Hope that helps you out....and yes the TF has Gorilla Glass.
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Just a point of clarification on point 2....
Resistive screens are not bad at all. In fact, they have better accuracy, b/c they are meant to be used with a stylus (a slim point). Whereas capacitive screens expect fat fingers, which make them feel better when not using a stylus.
The very obvious benefit to capacitive screens have the glass up front, vs. the touch layer being up front on resistive screens.
-bZj
Also, capacitive touch screens aren't very good with stylus input (handwriting) because your hand will trigger the input too. So you'll either have to hover your hand while writing or wear a glove, or pull your sleeve down over your hand.
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What review? I thought the tablet wasn't even out yet?
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Not sure if this is it but I did some quick Googling and approached this,
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/toshiba-thrive/4505-3126_7-34468401.html
Edit: No mention about LCD but just a prototype review.
but they didnt say anything about the screen??
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but they didnt say anything about the screen??
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Thats why i said,
Edit: No mention about LCD but just a prototype review.
There was a preview of it at CES 2011.

Handwriting sample

For those that are wondering about what handwriting on the Galaxy Note 10.1 is like, here's a sample of one page of text from the Papyrus app handwritten by me. I was writing pretty fast and I know my handwriting is not the best but I did it like that to prove that the active digitizer works quite well. This also gives you an idea of how much text you can actually fit on a screen. Of course, you can zoom out and pan around to fit more but I think that's incredibly annoying for writing (but for drawing diagrams it'd probably be great).
http://minus.com/lFGDz8vQlZUv3
This is excelent. I've been writing with capacitive stylus (Adonit Jot) and I wouldn't be able to write nowhere near that good with it (while for a capacitive stylus it's pretty good). I wonder why we don't see such writing in reviews... Also a question: doesn't the stylus slide a little because of the glass? Wouldn't it be better with a matte screen protector so it has some resistance?
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This is excelent. I've been writing with capacitive stylus (Adonit Jot) and I wouldn't be able to write nowhere near that good with it (while for a capacitive stylus it's pretty good). I wonder why we don't see such writing in reviews... Also a question: doesn't the stylus slide a little because of the glass? Wouldn't it be better with a matte screen protector so it has some resistance?
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Thanks! Yeah, when I was reading all the reviews I didn't understand why no one thought to do this, instead we get the random drawings and one line sentences. The stylus should be the focal point of the review for a device such as the Note.
Yes, the stylus definitely slides because of the glass. I actually used to use an HP tablet PC about 4 years ago and it had a similar feel (although it wasn't as smooth because it had a resistive touchscreen layer instead of capacitive glass), and I think you do sort of get used to it. However, I think you can get Wacom styluses with felt tips or something like that so that you get a little more resistance, and as you said a matte screen protector would definitely make it better too (and is probably the best solution). I haven't tried one yet though. It's not the same feel as paper but I think it's not really bad, just not the same feel, and you could get used to it.

Edge Screen: Useful? Gimmick?

The flexible and curved screen technologies came out a few years ago, but there wasn't much practical use for them. These were solutions waiting for problems. That's cool. Even the giant curved screen TVs that came out since then seem to be useful only if you plan on viewing the TV from a four meter distance. That makes sense.
But the Galaxy Edge screen? "Uhhhhhh, okay, it's cute, but can we move along now?"
People seem to love their Galaxy Edge screens, but I honestly don't get it -- at all! I'm definitely a function-over-form kind of guy, and so I don't want the edges of my screen wraping around the sides of the device and facing away from me. Because this is less than optimal design, it actually looks ugly to me. So, it seems it's only function is to be a gimmick to sell more product to people who are more form-over-function than function-over-form.
This is my opinion, and other opinions may differ.
So now that Samsung is not offering their new Galaxy devices without the Edge wrap-around screens, I won't be buying them until they bring back the flat screens.
Are there some other practical uses for the screen wrapping around half of the device's side? And are these uses worth the trade off of sacrificing pixels that face you when viewing your screen normally?
If Samsung really must continue the gimmick I hope they get wise and bring back totally flat screen as a Galaxy product option.
That's my feelings, but what do others think about curved edges vs flat?
Really don't like curved edges either, I think it looks nice but functionally I'd just prefer flat. Also makes cases weird as they have to cut around the curved sides.
Gimmick I personally HATE curved displays. You can't fully protect it with tempered glass. There are curved ones but those have glue only on the edges not whole panel. It also gives ugly light reflexes. I believe that was designed to eliminate decent screen protection and make devices less shatter proof. I hope there will be flat Galaxy S9 if not i will probably (sadly) abandon samsung. 2,5D is a BS also
gimmick, i hate it. hard to protect with case, makes replacement screen more expensive too

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