Here is a comparison that my friend wrote comparing the two devices. Both devices will be coming to US carriers and we will need to make a decision between which device to buy. Check out the review and then let me know which one you think your going to purchase.
Review: http://brobuffet.com/2012/09/14/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-2/
how do you compare two vastly different phones for vastly different customer population? also honestly, why is everyone comparing to the iPhone still? while they may sell the most due to people either being invested in ios or for cult like reasons, i really don't see them as the standard anymore. comparison is great for specs but i'm just tired of everyone regarding the iPhone as the standard.
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...i really don't see them as the standard anymore.
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Exactly.
FWIW I will be getting the note2 to replace my OG Droid. I want to combine my android phone and android tab into one and carry less devices.
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Its like comparing a jacket vs. A tank-top
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Its like comparing a jacket vs. A tank-top
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But that answer depend on who is wearing what, and from a viewer point of view rather than user point of view. Well at least that is not my brain is talking.
Ok, first off. Comparing two phones that aren't out/ didn't personally use them for a while is not fair. A6 is probably dual core A15's, the iPad 3 doesn't have the same processor but it still is the fastest(check benchmarks/game FPS). In 3D performance, iPhone 5 would probably win. Operating system is biased and that's the end of it. You can only state the features but which one is better is your opinion. I think iOS works very well, but that's about it. It gets boring quickly even though it's doing its job of working as expected. Android is way more functional and with ICS and later, apps aren't ugly and have a style now.
Okay, seriously? Siri is a better assistant than Google Now? Siri has more sports knowledge? That is incredibly wrong.
Number 1, Siri gets all its info from Google. Number 2, Google Now updates you prior, during, and after the game has been played.
This review was not completed with the best support, not to mention the iPhone hasn't been released to effectively compare speeds, camera, etc. Although, I have no doubt the GNII will destroy the iPhone 5.
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Here is a comparison that my friend wrote comparing the two devices. Both devices will be coming to US carriers and we will need to make a decision between which device to buy. Check out the review and then let me know which one you think your going to purchase.
Review: http://brobuffet.com/2012/09/14/apple-iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-2/
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I appreciate your friend for writing this comparison and you for sharing it with us, but so many mistakes in his comparisons. The iphone 5 and the iPad 3 do not share the same processor, the iPad has an A5x chip ( arm cortex A9)while the new iphone has an A6 chip( arm cortex A15 which is a beast). The iphone camera is known to be one of the best around, I won't jump to conclusion on which is better until we see what the note 2 can do. Siri is light years better than S voice, but Google now is better than siri. I'm definitely not defending the iphone but since this is an honest thread we have to state the facts. Its hard to judge the exterior of each phone cause to each his own, and as far as battery life goes, I expect the note 2 to map the floor out with any phone on the market, including the iphone 5. The note 2 comes with a 1.6 GHz Exynos 4 quad processor ( quad core) which is a beast also. Both phones have powerful processors that will make them fly. I prefer the note 2 cause of the s pen and its new features, the 5.5 inch screen, the OS, the ability customise it however you want it. But the iphone 5 is no slouch, its a very good phone but it doesn't deserve all the hype its getting. Deuces
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I appreciate your friend for writing this comparison and you for sharing it with us, but so many mistakes in his comparisons. The iphone 5 and the iPad 3 do not share the same processor, the iPad has an A5x chip ( arm cortex A9)while the new iphone has an A6 chip( arm cortex A15 which is a beast). The iphone camera is known to be one of the best around, I won't jump to conclusion on which is better until we see what the note 2 can do. Siri is light years better than S voice, but Google now is better than siri. I'm definitely not defending the iphone but since this is an honest thread we have to state the facts. Its hard to judge the exterior of each phone cause to each his own, and as far as battery life goes, I expect the note 2 to map the floor out with any phone on the market, including the iphone 5. The note 2 comes with a 1.6 GHz Exynos 4 quad processor ( quad core) which is a beast also. Both phones have powerful processors that will make them fly. I prefer the note 2 cause of the s pen and its new features, the 5.5 inch screen, the OS, the ability customise it however you want it. But the iphone 5 is no slouch, its a very good phone but it doesn't deserve all the hype its getting. Deuces
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You make some excellent points my man. I still believe that Androids vs iPhones continues to be based on what the user is looking for. I think the gap in that argument is changing but it still exists.
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You make some excellent points my man. I still believe that Androids vs iPhones continues to be based on what the user is looking for. I think the gap in that argument is changing but it still exists.
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It all comes down to what you looking for, at the end of the day. Its is clear that I phones cater more to the masses, people that want a good phone that just works, versus android that caters to the more tech oriented people who like customisation and modding. I have a friend who used to be a crazy ROM flasher, he actually got me into android. Now he doesn't really flash ROM or anything, he just wants something that is stable and works well and he is actually considering getting an iphone ( he used to hate I phones). All the android vs apple iphone is based on that, whether you want something great that just work and you don't have to worry about a thing, or you want something else that is also great, works but can be perfected to your liking.
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It all comes down to what you looking for, at the end of the day. Its is clear that I phones cater more to the masses, people that want a good phone that just works, versus android that caters to the more tech oriented people who like customisation and modding. I have a friend who used to be a crazy ROM flasher, he actually got me into android. Now he doesn't really flash ROM or anything, he just wants something that is stable and works well and he is actually considering getting an iphone ( he used to hate I phones). All the android vs apple iphone is based on that, whether you want something great that just work and you don't have to worry about a thing, or you want something else that is also great, works but can be perfected to your liking.
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something catered to the masses wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. Android is catered to the mass with different levels of price range. Android stock is just as easy to use.
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Finally a thread where people aren't just bashing one thing or the other. Honestly just like everyone here, I think these phones are in a different class, and really can't be compared. People who go for the iPhone 5 have a lot to look forward to, the phone is still fast, has a nice screen, and can finally use LTE which is great. What I don't get is that many people still can't really appreciate it, it is a beast of a phone in such a small package, I mean no offense to the note 2 but that thing is huge and has a lot more space for a bigger or better chip, more ram, bigger battery, a lot of things but the iPhone 5 can still hold it's own and still be really small. Now I will be getting the note 2 because I can't wait for that thing, it's like everything samsung could ever do into one package, it might be the first in the US with a quad core and LTE and a 5.5 screen, and the screen is unique on it's own, hd super amoled, with it being sort of in between a pentile and a amoled plus screen. Really spec wise it is a tech geeks wet dream, and I don't care if I look dumb making calls, I barely do that anyways, currently have the og epic touch and the devs here have kept this phone alive, I can even run jb on this. With the hype around the note 2 I hope it gets a lot of dev support because that thing was made for paranoid android and I can't wait to start flashing.
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People who go for the iPhone 5 have a lot to look forward to, the phone is still fast, has a nice screen, and can finally use LTE which is great.
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That or until Samsung decided to do what it said and sue Apple. And if thing goes Sammy way, the there might be injunction b4 iPhone 5 ship. Who know?
Please provide link to where it has been confirmed that the iphone has A15.
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Please provide link to where it has been confirmed that the iphone has A15.
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Google is your friend.
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I think Samsung should sue apple for stealing its ideaof extending battery life.
In my honest opinion, there is absolutely no reason to own an iPhone 5 as it basically reinforces my belief that Apple suckers people in to $200 software upgrades. Samsung ( and others ) time and time again comes out with the stronger hardware. A lot of people say it comes down to personal preference, but I fail to see how people could prefer the iPhone. Out of date hardware, smaller screen, limited OS and customization abilities, having to be hooked to iTunes, etc.
I so wanted to try the iPhone 5 instead of my GSIII, but after the lackluster press release and underwhelming specs... I was left sorely disappointed. I'll be saving my upgrade for now.
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Yea, I can't believe people think they are innovators. During their keynote they were explaining how apps designed for the 3.5" screen will work on the 4" screen. Luckily their outstanding engineers and advanced technology, they can center the app on the screen and put a black bar on the top and bottom of the app. WOW. Everyone give Apple a hand clap for their innovation in the field. Android on the other hand, sets their apps to determine the density and automatically sizes it to your screen....woo....black bars would look way better though *sarcasm*
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Its basically a slightly stretched 4s, makes me yawn to even contemplate it, how can you compare such a little toy to a NOTE version 1 or 2, even though they are so proud and numbly excited about the ohh arrr slightly bigger screen, its still too small, it looks exactly the same just a load of apps dotted about on a screen inside a square edged lump, these simple phones have there place with the mums and babies groups with there designer gold handbags and tasselled lifestyles.
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You can't compare the iPhone 5 with the Note 2. Complete different devices.
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It's the finals now: Nokian N900 vs Samsung Galaxy S
Having owned both, I can say both are worthy of winning. But since I'm a Galaxy user now, my vote goes there.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23538...nd-finale-nokia-n900-vs-samsung-galaxy-s.html
I voted for the N900.
It's the definition of a true smartphone.
Galaxy s is getting smashed unfortunately
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Galaxy s is getting smashed unfortunately
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Having never heard of the n900--I just watched a video review on engadget and it looks like a pile. WTH are people thinking? Galaxy S is great (not god-mode) compared to the Maemo UI I just saw.
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Having never heard of the n900--I just watched a video review on engadget and it looks like a pile. WTH are people thinking? Galaxy S is great (not god-mode) compared to the Maemo UI I just saw.
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Remember, it's the technology enthusiasts that are voting in the polls, and chances are at least half of those that voted for it probably has never even used one, much less seen one in person. The N900 is well-received for being the "Jack of all trades" of the smartphone world -- it does everything short of making breakfast for you, but none of it is done exceptionally well. I had one and honestly, it's a great phone, but the Maemo OS still lacks the user friendliness that Android or iOS offers. It's a geek phone that is almost useless in an average Joe's hands if he doesn't understand what it can do.
Im really liking the nokia E7
Post this in other Galaxy S forums and you'll probably see a huge boost in votes for the Galaxy S.
Holly [email protected]#$ we are getting smashed. At least there are a few others that didn't even make it.
dude, I just checked their main website.
ITS A FRIGGIN NOKIA FANBOY SITE
there is no way sgs is going to win.
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Remember, it's the technology enthusiasts that are voting in the polls, and chances are at least half of those that voted for it probably has never even used one, much less seen one in person. The N900 is well-received for being the "Jack of all trades" of the smartphone world -- it does everything short of making breakfast for you, but none of it is done exceptionally well. I had one and honestly, it's a great phone, but the Maemo OS still lacks the user friendliness that Android or iOS offers. It's a geek phone that is almost useless in an average Joe's hands if he doesn't understand what it can do.
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Fair enough. I love Nokia but it just looked....awkward. It was a video review only (no touchy-feely).
the n900 will win....not because its better..but because of the worlwide fanboys it has, it is the iphone of the world
We are losing big time. People vote
Vote vote vote for sgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha so the X10 beats the HTC Desire? I dont think so.
Uhhh...N900 on Maemo also runs Android Froyo 2.2, iOS, Windozed, etc. We are still waiting for an acceptable fix for gps and lag.
As previously mentioned, it may not do some stuff exceptionally well but does them acceptably...and a lot more. It is a computer more than a phone.
I have one and yes, it is not for the average joe - it is a smartphone. Whereas we have to go jump through burning barrels of flame to root and customize our device, the N900 only needs you to type 2 words in the included x-terminal: "sudo gainroot". It is unbrickable(and practically unbreakable tough).
It was also the device used to hack and jailbreak the PS3.
Nokia just didn't give it the love to enhance it a step further and instead went Meego with Intel.
I believe it is going to win hands down based on capabilities and hardware. Among the few things we got to face it with is a 4 inch screen and HD video.
If you don't know much about it, read the comments section before you vote.
I'm sitting this one out, in fairness to both amazing devices, happy with the knowledge that I have the top 2.
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Didn't know that...interesting. Might just try and get one to play around with--haven't had a Nokia since the G1 came out.
Might be fun.
Vote people!
Dude, I just read some of the N8 reviews.
THE PHONE IS CRAP
First of all it has a 680mhz processor. WTF?
And the OS is pure crap. It looks like it came from some old ass smartphone from the 90's. And the screen.... it's 3.5=FAIL.
The N8 in my opinion is worse than my old G1.
EDIT: LOL sorry, wrong phone. my humble but accurate opinion still stands for the n8
Of course you are aware that for Symbian phones, 680 Mhz CPU is like Android on a 1Ghz CPU, thus contributing to a longer battery life, right?
And that it does true multi-tasking not task-switching/management?
And that its crappy screen has its own graphics processor and has a resolution higher and sharper than our phones?
And, of course, it was the wrong phone with Symbian's outdated UI which totally reeks from 5 years ago.
Of course you already knew those things because you're well aware of all the merits of the phones we have more than the phones we don't have.
I'd rather focus on what we have and its real strengths and merits which beat other phones out there.
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And that it does true multi-tasking not task-switching/management?
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Sure, and when you see it on a 680mhz processor, its like magic. Slow magic, but magic.
And that its crappy screen has its own graphics processor and has a resolution higher and sharper than our phones?
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Vibrant has a better GPU, and since when is 640x360 higher resolution than 800x480? Are they special magic pixels?
And of course you read the reviews of Symbian^3 on the new N8. Yeah, kinda like BB, getting there but still behind the curve.
Now this is only the second review I've read of the N8:
http://www.itpro.co.uk/626251/nokia-n8-review-first-look
As with the iPhone, the battery is sealed inside the N8's casing, so it’s not user replaceable. This wouldn't be a problem, except we found the battery life to be disappointing. The specifications list a talktime of 5.5 hours on 3G and a standby time of 400 hours, but we’d cut this estimate in half based on our experiences with a pre-production sample.
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Unfortunately, on paper, the 680MHz ARM 11 processor isn't as powerful as the processor found in rival high end smartphones. It does have a built-in 3D graphics hardware accelerator, but this doesn't make up for the very noticeable lag when carrying out common tasks such as opening applications.
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Sounds like that slow processor really is slow, and it's not helping battery life much. My Vibrant has better battery life, and I can swap out for another when I run low.
Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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Always a difficult decision, choosing between the latest and greatest Android phone or the latest and greatest iPhone is a problem that every smartphone user faces at one point or another. Thankfully, the key to solving that problem isn't that far away when you know what to look for. Having both the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S here with us, we thought that we absolutely have to ...
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This should be fun because the phone arena dude is a massive iPhone fanboy...
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LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.
Oh god I couldn't even finish watching that. Somebody please knock some sense into this man, or hire the "wake up" team
Just sold my iPhone4s and waiting for SIII. IPhone is a nice "phone", nothing else. But for other things is too small. Before I have had GNex, SII, Sensation... 4.3 inches is really good size for my hands, but SIII isn't much bigger I think
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meeeh, to each his own. how the phone feels in one's hand is completely subjective to the individual.
I do agree with him that the body of the iPhone looks and feels like a luxury product. But for actual daily use, theres no getting around that the SIII is just better in every aspects other than SMS'ing or typing in phone numbers. Also the icon grid of the iphone is a pain in the a**. The ability to setup home screens is much more useful. And thats just the top of the software iceberg.
I have also come to love the light plastic phones by Samsung. It's hard to break and the warmer feel is just great.
The reviewer does come off as a sort of fanboi. His "final verdict" didn't seem to take into account any specifics of the S3 at all, only a rehash of the usual android vs iphone stereotype.
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LOL THE FIRST THING ... "The iphone has the benefit of comfort"
Actually, even after using my 4.0" Atrix, the 3.5" devices seem way too cramped for my hand
this video is terrible. hes claiming the iPhone has the better photo quality and hes not showing any photos.
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Check the website..... don't think its bias at all he makes some good points but at the end its obvious the gs3 is stronger in calls and multimedia, the only place the iPhone wins is design and camera stills not video.
So if he does love iPhone he isn't showing it in this review , let's not witch hunt.
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The iphone. A great product in its day. The iphone4 was a leading handset in its day. Sadly for the coolaid drinkers that day is long past. The iphone is surpassed in every meaningful way now. Unlike most here though I hope they up their game huge for iphone5 because the iphone is what made all of the many better handsets that can be had now happen. A **** hot iphone 5 means that everyone gets better. If they don't it means I get an iphone five. I love competition.
We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar.
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Er, while I don't claim to be an expert on Moore's law, I doubt you have good grounds for that claim either. Both screen technology and processor power have improved significantly each year, and indeed the iPhone still has to play catch-up in terms on specs. There is definitely room for improvement of the iPhone at the very least (and probably everything else as well).
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We are at a point were you can not make the phone any better in terms of screen resolution speed and battery life so I think phones after this will be pretty similar. I don't expect anything death shattering from the iPhone 5 . Maybe a bigger screen.
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I agree. The coming phone might do better in benchmarks, but in real life, that difference will be barely noticeable.
Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
Edit: In battery life there is much to improve!
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Just look at some of the Note vs. HOX on youtube. The difference is much less than the specs would suggest.
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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.
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1) Last year not being much different from this year does not imply that development has been capped.
2) One cannot expect a notable difference anyway, since everything in the current ecosystem is designed not to take advantage of so many resources. As the resources grow, however, so will demand tend to grow with it. Eventually, for example, with enough cores, enough RAM, and an efficient enough battery, it will become feasible for the OS to simply leave all background tasks running, just like on our computer. That would be a notable change, but clearly it could not happen overnight.
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I was just talking about the next iPhone not about the general development of phones. Given how phones are used this year and probably next year, doubling up the hardware specs, will not result in a twice as good user experience.
When you shoot a video from an iPhone 4S its look like you have already zoom a little bit and apart from that its video quality is smooth, colours look so bright and vivid. On the other hand video quality of S3 we will came to know after it get launch.
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Without knowing what that comment was this post is meaningless.
You cant compare those two phones. You already know that s3 is better.
After all quadcore is much faster than dual.
So I can pick up my new S3.
I've been wanting to switch forever to Android, but to me the hardware wasn't always quite there. Now that phones have caught up, I'm itching to go upgrade. However, I know the iPhone 5 is being released in just a little bit, so I'm going to hate myself if I don't at least hear what the 5 is going to have. My guess is NFC and a larger screen, but I can't imagine what else they could bring hardware wise. I love my Iphone, don't get me wrong, but I'm guessing hardware will barely change and to me Ios6 doesn't look like it will bring a lot of innovation to the market.
I'm such a nerd though, I use to have an HTC with Windows Mobile and modded the hell out of that thing. It was the most fun I've ever had with a phone, but the camera on it was horrible, which is pretty important in my eyes.
Does this forum looks like Android-Buy-Me-Forum? Dude, make your own decisions...nobody, I mean nobody can tell or convince you which phones you prefers. Iphone has their own advantages so does Android.
Everyone using Android will say Android is better, so if you go to an Iphone forum, the same will happen. If you want to use a phone with stability, nothing changes over time, everything goes well everytime, go to the Iphone. If you are someone who likes to tweaks your phone, able to set your own personal ringtone without going to iTunes, go to Android. Simple as that
Camera on the SGS3 is awesome, it has NFC, Android has had turn by turn navigation for years, you can do anything with Android you want, the quad core CPU is awesome if you watch videos receive an email or text and just hit the pop out play button to watch the video and check the email or text.
You aren't bound to what a company says a phone should be able to do, you don't like the stock rom flash a custom rom. The UI looks different in different versions of Android. All share cast allows you to share whats on the screen with a TV whether its a slide show of holiday pics or a video.
Google now trumps siri in so many ways (when JB comes) you can just copy files to any PC, no installing iTunes on all PCs you want to share things with.
Any other reasons you need?
Well I certainly know the differences, but I thank everyone for their input. My thought process about the iPhone was always hardware as I stated before. I never really enjoyed iOS, at least when I purchased for4. For the first iPhone 3, I'm sure a lot of us could agree it was probably the best OS out at the time. When the 4 came out, it seemed like the best hardware compared to others as well, but iOS was falling behind.
But now, I don't know whats up Apples sleeve. I mean, what could they possible bring to the table that will provide the wow factor hardware wise? NFC won't do it, I even think wireless charging wouldn't do it. A slightly larger screen and maybe a better camera? 3d? All stuff is either standard now or a cheesy gimmick. That's why i love the S3, because it has the hardware, plus we all know Android is fantastic.
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Well I certainly know the differences, but I thank everyone for their input. My thought process about the iPhone was always hardware as I stated before. I never really enjoyed iOS, at least when I purchased for4. For the first iPhone 3, I'm sure a lot of us could agree it was probably the best OS out at the time. When the 4 came out, it seemed like the best hardware compared to others as well, but iOS was falling behind.
But now, I don't know whats up Apples sleeve. I mean, what could they possible bring to the table that will provide the wow factor hardware wise? NFC won't do it, I even think wireless charging wouldn't do it. A slightly larger screen and maybe a better camera? 3d? All stuff is either standard now or a cheesy gimmick. That's why i love the S3, because it has the hardware, plus we all know Android is fantastic.
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Iphone's screen will never compare to the GS3, better camera get the Nokia N8 with a 12MP camera, 3d get the LG Optimus 3d, these are already out there Apple will just be copying everyone implementing things we don't see in the SGS3.
Also lets not forget the hardware in the iPhone is all Samsung hardware, so iPhone is made by Samsung as well. Any hardware Apple could improve over SGS3 (CPU, GPU, screen) will drain your battery which you cannot replace. with the SGS3 if you need it you can carry a spare battery with you and just swap it over when the awesome hardware drains the battery.
Well first off, it's an iPhone... While they may be popular, Samsung has over thrown Apple's control of the market share."Everyone that's popular, cool, rich has to have one right???" No -_- the SGS3 cost more than the iPhone, so that marks off rich people. I am pretty da*n cool and popular, that marks the others off cuz I have an SGS3. It has a quad core while Apple is just now getting into the dual core waters. Battery life is amazing. GPU is the best around. Dev support, not locked down. Jelly bean smoothness on the way.
I mean c'mon if you seriously have doubts on getting an iDevice and becoming an iSheep, then leave XDA. Unless your job forces you (which I would still try my hardest to avoid) to have an iPhone, steer clear and enjoy your freedom.
I don't know why you say the iPhone had the best hardware, it wasn't hardware that made it smooth, it was software optimisation.
The 4S is using an underclocked dual core processor and it only has 512mb of ram.
Hardware has never been apples game, they just optimised the sh*t out of iOS.
Also objective C is faster than Java. (iOS and Android coding languages respectively)
Hardware was nearly always better on high end android handsets (no point comparing a 59.99 low end Android to a 700 quid iPhone, although most people that say Android is **** base their opinions on that.) Because it had to be, the os wasn't refined as much as iOS because there were so many oems, chip manufacturers etc. there were so many variables.
Now with JB Android has really found its feet, JB is the release that Android deserves as a platform, it is the one that will win non-technical people over with the ease of use and of course the fact that it oozes butter all over the place.
So to get to the point, iOS is dated, Android is growing better with every release. Vote Android.
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Well I certainly know the differences, but I thank everyone for their input. My thought process about the iPhone was always hardware as I stated before. I never really enjoyed iOS, at least when I purchased for4. For the first iPhone 3, I'm sure a lot of us could agree it was probably the best OS out at the time. When the 4 came out, it seemed like the best hardware compared to others as well, but iOS was falling behind.
But now, I don't know whats up Apples sleeve. I mean, what could they possible bring to the table that will provide the wow factor hardware wise? NFC won't do it, I even think wireless charging wouldn't do it. A slightly larger screen and maybe a better camera? 3d? All stuff is either standard now or a cheesy gimmick. That's why i love the S3, because it has the hardware, plus we all know Android is fantastic.
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Well its possible for the iphone5 to be better spec wise (cpu, gpu). If you're into gaming, it seems developers always put out the best versions of their mobile games for apple's product so that could be a plus for you. Other than that, I don't think anyone knows what's going to be in it.
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Well its possible for the iphone5 to be better spec wise (cpu, gpu). If you're into gaming, it seems developers always put out the best versions of their mobile games for apple's product so that could be a plus for you. Other than that, I don't think anyone knows what's going to be in it.
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if he's into gaming then he should get a console or a PC.
to the OP, you said so, you want to change to android, sgs3 is a great way to make that change, the iphone 5 could be good but we don't know yet besides, if you like freedom then android is your choice.
my recommendation is, wait till the iphone release and pick one by then, if you come to our world you will enjoy it and never leave, trust me.
If he's in the us his gs3 won't be a quad core . But it will have 2 gigs of ram and be fast as hell. I'd go with the gs3. In fact I am going to the gs3 lol. I have the gs2 right now.
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Apple will never compete in hardware spec with Android because there are so many android devices come out every 4-6 months with higher spec. Apple will never catch up on that department.
Maybe there will be new softwares in Iphone5. But whatever software offered in Iphone5 will be available for Iphone4.
So basically, there is nothing, I mean really nothing worthwhile that Iphone5 will bring to you.
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Convince me that this thread was really needed? There are many people waiting for new iphone to come out so that they can compare it with GSIII and make their decision. What if everyone wants to be convinced?
I am in the US and i have the Quad core version....
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Is this some cheap way of getting the fanboys stocked up?!
Read how unimpressive IO6 with the features that are coming out and the compelling but unsiteresting hardware underneath it. Besides you know what your getting with apple tbh, there hardly surprising anyone as much as they used to these days, but incremental change has its merits.
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Does it still depend on itunes? Y/N?
If Y goto 10
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I have to admit something about those apples
I have repaires alot of samsungs and my first 4s a while ago
Build quality is something apple does better to my opinion
Not trying to hate on the plastic s3 that cracks when handled ruff
Just saying i prefer apples build quality (ill never get one tho) well if somebody gives me one sponsored i wont say no offcourse but purshasing it myself ?
I think for ppl that like apple build quality and dont like os from apple they can
Put android on it ? Lets face it this is XDA
Samsung need to notch up the build quality and then the phones would be ok
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Just wait and get your iPhone with NFC and everyone will think it will be the first phone to have it
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Anything Apple makes you a ***** to iTunes. End. Of. Sorry.
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That's why iPod 3rd gen has been sitting in a drawer for over a year. Itunes sucks.
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The Iphone(5) isn't out yet! besides, it sounds like you want a phone because it could be more popular not because of the functions. If you want a stylish phone have a look for the sony ericsson p900i
OK 1 billion threads I know but its more so a thread of my joy.
See the big boys Samsung/Apple/HTC should be working along the lines of when they bring out their top end phone, its the best one....maybe for a few short months, but that’s the way tech works, wait for one company to bring something out then you better it.
My joy has came from the fact that I was waiting for Apple to trump Samsung, its a newer phone/hype so it will be better, Apples chance to go one up on Samsung, they have the court win (fix ) and a new phone right behind that, times are good, what could go wrong..........oh dear, its not quite the phone we all thought it might be.
Not a Apple fan (was many years ago) but had they brought out a really top end/new ideas phone then it would have been bad news for Samsung (state side) as it is Samsung now have the perfect chance to really push this, they have in a way got off lightly.
It will be very easy for Samsung to make a phone that easily outstrips the ip5, I just hope they take a little bit extra from that tech they are sitting on and really leave other companies behind, but that comes with a high cost.
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Just love how Apple is lost for ideas.
I know the war on trying to bring other firms down to their speed is well under way but its shocking when they are so open about lack of innovation on their side.
There was a write up about the iphone 5 looking like a longer 4s, and the question was put to Apple on why the look of the phone has hardy changed since iphone4, the reply was that they felt it was a great design and that people liked it, and that they don’t see the main shape changing for sometime yet.
Why not simply say
“we don’t have any idea what we could do and we are not willy to take any chances, customers are happy with it so why bother trying any new ideas, but if the sales are not what we wanted then we will make a slight change to the shape........this is Apple after all, we are all about slight changes here”
So comment/delete yet another thread either way I am happy Apple dropped the ball with this one.
Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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The iPhone 5 has better specs? ......
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Apple has just smashed preorder records over all their other phones. Samsung won't outsell the iPhone, and in terms of specs their phones have always been better anyway.
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How do you know this, I don't doubt you but would like to see the figures.
Cm10 latest with s3 = godly.
Best is nit a figure. Best for what?
Whats best some one is not for another. Specs dont mean best
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I think it's 4 million preorders for the iPhone 5.
Also iSheep don't buy a phone because it's the best (like us) they buy a phone because it's an iPhone no other reason. Apple could make a new Nokia 3310 and people would still buy it thinking it's the best because they blindly follow Apple.
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Already done. The SGS3 is superior to the iphone5.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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Agree!! Enjoying every bit of it now. I wish i could donate to CM Team but i don't have PayPal account.
Anyway, back to topic. I heard Samsung made sure S3 is iPhone 5 proof. Meaning they already knew how it would look like and made s3 superior.
W/o Steve Jobs, i don't think there's still life in Apple.
Steve jobs said before he died that he wanted to destroy android, Well i think by him dying he destroyed Apple.
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Its going down the path of mine is better than yours.....but I notice you start with preorders, so sales means its better? if so explain the Twilight movies, how did they make the money?????
Had you started off by listing the changes Apple made then I would be more willing to listen to a I.fan.
Oh and just so it does not need pointed out again
S1 1ghz 5mp camera 720p recording 4inch screen.512 ram
S2 1.2ghz dual core 8mp camera 1080p recording 4.3 inch screen.1gig ram.
S3 1.4ghz quad core 8pm camera 1080p recording 4.8 inch screen.1 gig ram.
Iphone 620mhz no camera 3.5 inch screen..128 ram.
Iphone 3g 620mhz.2mp camera vga recording.3.5 inch screen.128 ram.
Iphone 3gs 833mhz.3mp camera vga recording 3.5 inch screen.256 ram
Iphone 4 1ghz.5mp camera..720p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 4s 1ghz.dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 3.5 inch screen.512 ram.
Iphone 5 1.2ghz dual core.8mp camera 1080p recording 4 inch screen. 1gb ram.
It took them 6 phones to make these changes, they went form a 620mhz cpu to 1.2ghz dual core.
From no camera to 8mp 1080p recording.
From 128ram to 1gb ram.
And from a 3.5 inch screen to a..................well 4inch screen.
I know its all been said but to me this is not a big leap over 6 years, Samsung has done more over 3 years.
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The i5 has 1GHZ dual core...
Anyway,i do agree to that.
Most of apples buyers are dumb...
A youtube video where they showed the people the 4s instead of the 5 and most of them said it's definently better even though it was THE SAME FRICKING PHONE??
Jesus...i wonder who the hell did we get there sometimes...
Well I know I have a good phone when I can do everything I need w/o much tinkerin...I dont like CM and I hardly use modded stuff so I am not spoiled by the custom rom godness and still any stock android phone 2.3 and up have better usability than any iThing up to date. Cant debate usability.
Android top phones come in better specs, and spec is something that can be measured because its a fact that hardware X is faster than Y, cant debate on that when the difference is so great between top android phones and iphone.
The screen size, for me 4.5 is better than 4.8, that we can debate as it is personal preference. Everything else is no brainer for me, real multitask, widgets, the fact that I can chose my default apps, change my ringtone at will, stuff all my mp3 in a sdcard and be happy all day, and the look in my iphone friends faces when I click on a street addres inside gmail and android ask me if I want directions or maps...
Anyone who try to argue that iphone is a better smart phone is wrong, iphone is a better...ipod that make calls...for the hardware it sports and the target market I would say the iphone is still overkill.
Android phones will always have better specs, that's not going to change. Apple sells features not specs and that I mean by that is that Apple will advertise a certain feature, siri, and people will see that and flock, or something like icloud, and people will buy. 5 years ago if you would of told me that the wii would be one of the best selling systems of all time, I would of laughed, the wii is just gamecube 2,with a new controller, but Nintendo focused on features and not specs and look what happened
I think Samsung is getting the idea, advertise what the phone can do, and why you need it, then people will buy. It's easy to say that the iphone is gonna outsell the sg3 because if you want an iphone you get an iphone, there no choice, if you want a android, you literally have 500 choices.
Plus Samsung makes alot of the parts for the iphone so they winning regardless
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That could just mean they doing a Buzz Lightyear and deliberately creating stock shortages so all the iSheep think it's more popular than it actually is.
The ip5 will sell well, but if its looking to good then Samsung will start teasing the SGS4 and its "maybe specs" I mean there is already talk of its first showing next year been March.
This is Samsungs chance to distance their product, better specs/features/look, after Apples so so ip5 Samsung really need to make the most of it and show off, it does come at a cost but long term it will be a winner.
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The iPhone 5 has better specs? ......
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Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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CandyAndy said:
Well I do think that Samsung and rest of the Android pack has a lot of catching up with apple's processor. Especially in terms of battery consumption. They could fit quite small sized battery and still have excellent battery life. I don't like Apple as an company and because of that will always boycott them but must give credit for the processor.
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Features are what matters to the average person not pointless benchmark results and a little bit of a speedup, and iPhone chronically lacks features compared to Android.
Apple does not have to try hard for making an 'innovative' phone. Just putting a new name tag would turn on the iSheeps and sell like hot cakes. So be it.
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What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?
Show them this maybe.
http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely
Then again anyone who has used both a lot will say that they are somewhat close to each other. They're both incredible phones and to be honest, anyone who says the iPhone is a lot better is just biased , and vice versa with people claiming the nexus 4 is a lot better. Both phones are somewhat close and it ends up falling on personal preference.
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Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..
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Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..
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In all the tests I've seen (yet), the iPhone always beats other smartphones in terms of battery life. The difference isn't night and day, but the iPhone probably lasts around 1/4 or 1/3 longer than most smartphones.
With the Nexus 4 looking freaking incredible, looks isn't an argument anymore. The iPhone also has a very nice design, but what I hate is that they don't really change it. I have the same criticism towars Google by the way. It's a shame that the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 look so similar at the front. But that's only one time, and the back IS different (and nicer), so at least I have a feeling it has changed. Apple changes too, but not as much as other companies.
Where the Nexus 4 really shines though is the OS. It's just a fact that you can do a whole of a lot more with Android. A whole lot more. Advantage of iOS is that it's fast(er) and intuitive. However, this gapp is gradually being closed as the Nexus 4 has virtually no lag at all, at least not really more than the iPhone. Some OS features do still lag though, even though the hardware is good enough to take care of them, which kind of sucks. As for intuitifity (is that a word?), in my opinion Android is not really any worse, and some would argue it's better. Things like having all your downloaded apps integrated (as stated in the gizmodo article above) is just better.
If you are going to tweak around with custom ROMs I wouldn't even doubt a second. The N4 has the price going for it (really, how can one not see that? The iPhone is twice as expensive, and it's certainly not twice as good), it has Android (which means tweaking, if you're into that), and now that the hardware is fast and Android became mature, it's also fast and intuitive without having to tweak around.
Have both. While the iPhone is going back (merely because it is equally good but far more expensive), it is in my opinion the better looking device, definitely the more premium device, and iOS is still a little smoother, faster, and more consistent and refined than Android is at the moment. Google know Android has a way to go yet in terms of fit and finish, but in terms of features and flexibility, it is currently the market leader. And it is crystal clear that Google are heading in the right direction - ICS and JB were massive steps forward over what were pretty poor predecessors.
Which I prefer? Honestly, if I was given either I'd be chuffed. The iPhone's hardware is far superior, but I do feel that Android's multitasking makes it for me.
Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi, iPhone, around 9. Very vague I know, but it's a rough estimate. Over 3G, about the same; the iPhone 5 doesn't seem to hold onto its power on standby well at all.
How to convince your friends? I wouldn't. Let them play, let them judge based on the price tag.
iPhone: Faster, smoother, noticeably better cameras, noticeably better battery life, higher quality apps, less things to fix or workaround, much easier to use one handed (and I have large hands), much easier to back up, better build quality, significantly more choices in app and accessory ecosystem.
Nexus: Dramatically cheaper to own and use! Open - off contract, more customizable, widgets, accessible file system, more options for how to do things for the most part. It has a bigger display as well, but it gets in the way of one handed operation.
I like my Nexus 4 a lot, but if the iPhone was $350 and $30-50/month, it would be a tough decision to still go with the Nexus 4. I might, as I really like the usability and customizability of widgets and software like tasker and other utils, and being able access/stream/copy files to/from my network is really liberating. But there are still many rough edges to Android that don't exist with iOS.
If your friends are tinkerers and problem solvers Android is best. If they are not, and want the best user experience, let them keep their iPhones.
iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
Android: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that understand and like to tweak their devices for good and better customization/performance.
The only thing iOS beats Android, it's the app quality (not all, but the majority).
But I'll be honest, I was kinda jealous of my girlfriend's iphone 5 (with my s2). But after getting my N4, she's jealous of my phone =D
N4 is for tech junky not rich wannabe trendy in cool types
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Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi,
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No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
If we're talking about a lot of browsing throughout the day on Wi-Fi, I get close to 6 hours. Daily usage with the majority of it on 3G, less of course, probably around the 4 hour mark.
kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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Then you're doing it wrong.
estallings15 said:
Then you're doing it wrong.
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Should I hold my phone differently?
kristoff125 said:
Should I hold my phone differently?
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Yes!
Why do you feel the need to show them anything? Why do you think they are deluded? Maybe you should worry about your own stuff and they worry about theirs.
But like a number of other users have said, the pros for the n4 are custom roms/tinkering and price, if your friends don't care about those things then you aren't going to convince them the n4 is the better phone.
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iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
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Probably not latest technology AFAICT.
kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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you should get over 4 hours wifi, I got 4.30 on stock, 5 hours display on wifi easy, or 6 clocked at 1100mhz
anyway
iphone is for the majority who upgraded from a nokia 3310 and don't know what to expect in a phone, just want emails etc
android for those who like freedom to customize and know what to expect when they spend money.
There is plenty to like and dislike about both phones.
The one that fills more of your likes then dislikes is the better phone for you.
Sorry iPhone 5 beats N4 but Samsung Galaxy 3 is iPhone slayer.
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Having just switched from an iphone 4 to the N4, the one thing that I can't believe hasn't been built into Android yet is lockscreen notifications. I understand you can pull the notification bar down, but I'd like to see something like iOS or Windows Phone 8 where I can see at a glance how many unread emails, msgs, missed calls I have without having to buy apps to do it. Not seeing the screen wake up when I receive a new notification is different too (also to quickly glance), but I'm getting used to that.
neilshahh said:
What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?
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Power on the N4. Unlock it. Done.
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