[Q] Comparing Nexus to iPhone - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Comparing Nexus to iPhone - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?

Show them this maybe.
http://gizmodo.com/5973073/an-iphone-lovers-confession-i-switched-to-the-nexus-4-completely
Then again anyone who has used both a lot will say that they are somewhat close to each other. They're both incredible phones and to be honest, anyone who says the iPhone is a lot better is just biased , and vice versa with people claiming the nexus 4 is a lot better. Both phones are somewhat close and it ends up falling on personal preference.
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Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..

Ngo93 said:
Just by looks? The N4 wins that by far imo.
Anyways I've always wondered but couldn't find any solid information, what is the screen on time of an iPhone 5? If anyone knows..
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In all the tests I've seen (yet), the iPhone always beats other smartphones in terms of battery life. The difference isn't night and day, but the iPhone probably lasts around 1/4 or 1/3 longer than most smartphones.
With the Nexus 4 looking freaking incredible, looks isn't an argument anymore. The iPhone also has a very nice design, but what I hate is that they don't really change it. I have the same criticism towars Google by the way. It's a shame that the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 4 look so similar at the front. But that's only one time, and the back IS different (and nicer), so at least I have a feeling it has changed. Apple changes too, but not as much as other companies.
Where the Nexus 4 really shines though is the OS. It's just a fact that you can do a whole of a lot more with Android. A whole lot more. Advantage of iOS is that it's fast(er) and intuitive. However, this gapp is gradually being closed as the Nexus 4 has virtually no lag at all, at least not really more than the iPhone. Some OS features do still lag though, even though the hardware is good enough to take care of them, which kind of sucks. As for intuitifity (is that a word?), in my opinion Android is not really any worse, and some would argue it's better. Things like having all your downloaded apps integrated (as stated in the gizmodo article above) is just better.
If you are going to tweak around with custom ROMs I wouldn't even doubt a second. The N4 has the price going for it (really, how can one not see that? The iPhone is twice as expensive, and it's certainly not twice as good), it has Android (which means tweaking, if you're into that), and now that the hardware is fast and Android became mature, it's also fast and intuitive without having to tweak around.

Have both. While the iPhone is going back (merely because it is equally good but far more expensive), it is in my opinion the better looking device, definitely the more premium device, and iOS is still a little smoother, faster, and more consistent and refined than Android is at the moment. Google know Android has a way to go yet in terms of fit and finish, but in terms of features and flexibility, it is currently the market leader. And it is crystal clear that Google are heading in the right direction - ICS and JB were massive steps forward over what were pretty poor predecessors.
Which I prefer? Honestly, if I was given either I'd be chuffed. The iPhone's hardware is far superior, but I do feel that Android's multitasking makes it for me.
Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi, iPhone, around 9. Very vague I know, but it's a rough estimate. Over 3G, about the same; the iPhone 5 doesn't seem to hold onto its power on standby well at all.
How to convince your friends? I wouldn't. Let them play, let them judge based on the price tag.

iPhone: Faster, smoother, noticeably better cameras, noticeably better battery life, higher quality apps, less things to fix or workaround, much easier to use one handed (and I have large hands), much easier to back up, better build quality, significantly more choices in app and accessory ecosystem.
Nexus: Dramatically cheaper to own and use! Open - off contract, more customizable, widgets, accessible file system, more options for how to do things for the most part. It has a bigger display as well, but it gets in the way of one handed operation.
I like my Nexus 4 a lot, but if the iPhone was $350 and $30-50/month, it would be a tough decision to still go with the Nexus 4. I might, as I really like the usability and customizability of widgets and software like tasker and other utils, and being able access/stream/copy files to/from my network is really liberating. But there are still many rough edges to Android that don't exist with iOS.
If your friends are tinkerers and problem solvers Android is best. If they are not, and want the best user experience, let them keep their iPhones.

iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
Android: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that understand and like to tweak their devices for good and better customization/performance.
The only thing iOS beats Android, it's the app quality (not all, but the majority).
But I'll be honest, I was kinda jealous of my girlfriend's iphone 5 (with my s2). But after getting my N4, she's jealous of my phone =D

N4 is for tech junky not rich wannabe trendy in cool types
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lambomanx1 said:
Battery life...Nexus 4 would get around 6 hours of screen on time browsing over Wi-Fi,
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No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.

If we're talking about a lot of browsing throughout the day on Wi-Fi, I get close to 6 hours. Daily usage with the majority of it on 3G, less of course, probably around the 4 hour mark.

kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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Then you're doing it wrong.

estallings15 said:
Then you're doing it wrong.
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Should I hold my phone differently?

kristoff125 said:
Should I hold my phone differently?
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Yes!

Why do you feel the need to show them anything? Why do you think they are deluded? Maybe you should worry about your own stuff and they worry about theirs.
But like a number of other users have said, the pros for the n4 are custom roms/tinkering and price, if your friends don't care about those things then you aren't going to convince them the n4 is the better phone.

calanizzle said:
iOS: high end device with latest technology right out of the box, for people that don't understand or doesn't like to tweak their devices.
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Probably not latest technology AFAICT.

kristoff125 said:
No idea where you got that number from, but 4 hours is about the limit I've seen.
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you should get over 4 hours wifi, I got 4.30 on stock, 5 hours display on wifi easy, or 6 clocked at 1100mhz
anyway
iphone is for the majority who upgraded from a nokia 3310 and don't know what to expect in a phone, just want emails etc
android for those who like freedom to customize and know what to expect when they spend money.

There is plenty to like and dislike about both phones.
The one that fills more of your likes then dislikes is the better phone for you.

Sorry iPhone 5 beats N4 but Samsung Galaxy 3 is iPhone slayer.
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Having just switched from an iphone 4 to the N4, the one thing that I can't believe hasn't been built into Android yet is lockscreen notifications. I understand you can pull the notification bar down, but I'd like to see something like iOS or Windows Phone 8 where I can see at a glance how many unread emails, msgs, missed calls I have without having to buy apps to do it. Not seeing the screen wake up when I receive a new notification is different too (also to quickly glance), but I'm getting used to that.

neilshahh said:
What are some ways you can compare a nexus to iPhone in real life?
Which aspects of the N4 do you think are better than the iPhone?
My friends are deluded and seem to be going by just looks, how do I show them the N4 is more than what they think it is?
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Power on the N4. Unlock it. Done.
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Advice: Nexus One over iPhone (not quite a vs. thread)

So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.

all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah

That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)

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That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones

bobdude5 said:
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.

idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha

nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)

bobdude5 said:
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha

lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)

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lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)

My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.

Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...

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Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
DMaverick50 said:
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.

lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....

Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!

Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.

actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol

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The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?

The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.

Anyone sold there iphone4 for a SGS2

I am extremely tempted with one of these, I know this may start a fanboy android vs iOS slagging match, but what made you change, are you happy and what are the major benefits, I read on here that the SGS2 has some issues with gps, wifi and terrible battery life, this concerns me.

I'm an Android user, but...
- GPS is the fastest I've ever known in a phone
- Wifi is fine
- Battery life is dependent on what you do. There's a bug in Android 2.3.3 which has been resolved in 2.3.4, which causes excessive battery drain on dual core phones. An update is being released this month supposedly... [hey, even with the bug the life is fine IMO]

just about to sell my iphone 4, there are some things the ip4 does better but i think there are some software updates coming to the gs2 that will bring it back up to speed.

I did that. I sold my iPhone once I got my SGS II. In truth, battery life is a bit lower than iPhone but I guess it has something to do with the 2.3.3 kernel. I am now waiting for the 2.3.4 kernel but other than that, I love the SGS II.
The battery life last about a day with low usage (surfing, Whatsapp, Beejive IM and also Seesmic). Usually I end the day without about 20% battery. Also, I use Navigon with it and I am very happy with the GPS. It picks up and lock on about as fast or not even faster than the iPhone 4 with Tomtom.

I have an iPhone 4, but I'm not selling it. It's a fantastic little device. Keyword: LITTLE. I don't want to use it as a phone anymore, but I'm not going to sell it because I have a lot of money in vested in the appstore, and it lasts FOREVER as an Mp3 player! lol. It also takes great pictures .
But I got my SGS2, as well. But No, I'm not selling my iphone 4, but maybe because I afford to keep both? If I couldn't, maybe I'd sell it. The SGS2 is a way better phone and device in general, but as many people say, every phone has its pros and cons.

Just a couple of things.
The sound quality from the iPhone is quite a bit better. And there are lots more games on the iPhone.
But, the sgs2 allows you to customize the phone to a much greater extent. And its screen is simply wonderful.
If I was you, I would wait until Monday and see what apple has in store and pop in to a shop and check out the sgs2.
Personally I love my sgs2 but I am thinking of getting a mp3 player as it sounds a bit poo. But that's just me.
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Sold mine and don't look back very happy with what I have.

sold mine to get the sgs2, many pros and cons for both but happy with sgs2 and dont seem to have any battery problems,gps problems all is good. just the home button slow to wake phone up which fingers crossed it will be solved with 2.3.4 update.
but i must say ill be getting the iphone 5 on release day

Sold my iPhone 4 as well and got the SGS2 instead. Never looked back. Never really liked the iOS interface anyway so it felt great to be back on Android..

Something which is DEFINITELY worse on the Galaxy 2 in the audio quality over bluetooth. It simply SUCKS.
Since I drive a lot, it's something I really miss of my Iphone 4.... also if anybody knows about any fix (I heard of something somewhere, but never managed to get enough info), please post it to me I will be very grateful.

LondonGemini said:
Just a couple of things.
The sound quality from the iPhone is quite a bit better. And there are lots more games on the iPhone.
I find them equal for sound quality and never use MP3 player instead of the phone .
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The wife has my iphone 4, don't miss it and much prefer my SG2

Sold my iphone 4 for Sg2....only thing I miss are the quality apps in the appstore....
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Audio quality the iphone4 is definitely better unless u have a portable amp then i cant say. Only thing fun bout the iphone was jailbreaking to me and that didnt lasted very long.

I'm in the exact same position as the OP.
I have iPhone 4 but am getting a bit bored of iOS. I Jailbreak for customisation options but Android seems to be much more versatile & the lack of Jailbreak for iPad 2 worries me going forward with iDevices.
Apple need to reveal a major iOS 5 overhaul at WWDC (the introduction of widgets is essential) or I'll be getting the SGS2 at the end of the month.
If iOS5 does tick all the right boxes for me then I'm really going to be torn. I will probably run both iPhone 4 & SGS2 until the new iDevice is launched & then make the Android v iOS choice.
My only real concern about moving to SGS2 is the build quality. I've tried the store demo units & they don't have the premium feel of iPhone 4.

Nuggzy said:
I'm in the exact same position as the OP.
I have iPhone 4 but am getting a bit bored of iOS. I Jailbreak for customisation options but Android seems to be much more versatile & the lack of Jailbreak for iPad 2 worries me going forward with iDevices.
Apple need to reveal a major iOS 5 overhaul at WWDC (the introduction of widgets is essential) or I'll be getting the SGS2 at the end of the month.
If iOS5 does tick all the right boxes for me then I'm really going to be torn. I will probably run both iPhone 4 & SGS2 until the new iDevice is launched & then make the Android v iOS choice.
My only real concern about moving to SGS2 is the build quality. I've tried the store demo units & they don't have the premium feel of iPhone 4.
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I sold my Iphone 4, it was jailbreaked with lockinfo, BiteSMS and much more. The build quality on the SGS II is maybe not as great as the iPhone 4 but it is ok. The one thing I miss most is the overall better quality of apps in the appstore - and the batterylife of the iPhone

Still have the iPhone 4 with me, now whenever I use the iPhone, I feel like theres nothing missing, theres no back button!

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Still have the iPhone 4 with me, now whenever I use the iPhone, I feel like theres nothing missing, theres no back button!
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That also means you save that screen space hehe. Yes the iPhone is a good phone. It has it's pros and cons. But I prefer an android phone with a 4.3 inch screen than a 3.5 inch screen device. Battery life isn't as good on a 4.3 inch fully functioning multitasking 1.2 ghz phone compared to a closed single core smaller screened device that doesn't allow any real multitasking. Shame. Oh well I'm going to get a battery case (maybe) hehe.
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Am keeping my iPhone 4 for now. Love my SGS2, prefer the bigger screen and customization options.
Battery life is much better on iPhone and prefer the build quality.
Lets see what Monday brings

Had an iPhone 4 (32gb, jailbroken, etc). Fell in love with the SGS2 after reading every article that I could find. Ordered it from expansys. Kept my iP4 just in case I didn't like the SGS2. Within 1 day I had my iP4 up on craigslist for sale.
I guess I'm lucky since my job doesn't permit me the luxury of playing with the phone all day. Battery has been more than adequate for me. Fact of the matter is I've been at or above the same level as my iP4 at the end of the day.
The thing that I'm super stoked about with this phone is it's potential that has yet to even be unleashed. IMHO it's the most future proof device out at the moment. The full capabilities haven't even been scratched yet. I'm still running a completely stock device and I couldn't be happier. Once dev's get a real hold on the device watch out. Powerhouse FTW.

My Att S3 review.

First of all let me give you a little background about myself. I am the mobile admin for a major software company in Silicon valley. I have access to any phone I feel that is worth testing so I can be completely unbiased. Here are the pros and cons of the S3 which I am now testing:
Pros:
1. Screen is big and very nice. It is pentile but I can barely tell. The iPhone 4s is a bit sharper but the s3 just looks better. Blacks are black. and they toned down the punchiness of the OMLED
2. The phone is thin and sexy. I got the casemate barley there which gives the phone more grip and fits like a glove.
Cons:
1. It gets warm with use.
2. When using auto brightness the avg brightness is to week. If it were bumped up about 25% it would be perfect or even better if you could adjust the avg brightness like you can with the iPhone it would be perfect.
2. Im in the bay area and do not get a solid LTE signal with ATT like I do on the iPad. Most of the times its on 4G 5 bars when my iPad has LTE. When it is in LTE I get the usual 20-40mbps which is great.
3. Android OS is just not as polished and solid as iOS. Yes it has more capabilities but it just doesn't work as well for me.
4. it was charged to 100 percent at midnight so I unplugged it and went to bed. Woke up at 7 am and it was at %50. I looked at the battery menu and didn't see anything out of the norm. Yes its possible I left some app running in the back ground but I should not have to worry about that. Apple got it right why can't google? If I ever forget to plug it in then it will most likely die in the middle of the night and I may miss an important work call. The iPhone can be at %20 and if I forget to charge it, it will be at %15 in the am.
Overall the perceived build quality doesn't compare to the iPhone 4s but its not bad with the gorilla glass 2 screen and Casemate barely there. Even though the 4S feels more solid Id feel safer dropping the S3 then the 4s since the 4S has more glass. Im really hoping to make this my primary phone but its no where near the 4S in terms of usefull functionality. Hardware wise its light years ahead. With the 4S i use it as a tool. With the S3 i use at so I can look at it and go ooooh ahhhh. I keep picking it up so I can run my finger across the awesome OMLED screen to hear the water and look at my background pic which is the dandy lion. Now if I could just blow on it

I'm curious, other than the OS on the iphone being a little more intuitive and user friendly, what functionality did you find in the iphone that you don't find in the S3? I'm coming over from an iphone myself and am finding that the whole iphone vs droid debate is a little overblown. Out of the actually functional uses and not just stuff to play around with and tweak, I haven't found much that one phone can do that the other can't. They both do pretty much the same things, just some of the things are done a little differently.
Well, except for the battery life on the S3 which from what I've read on this and other forums is a common issue and one which the iphone doesn't have. I'd have to say that that is my biggest disappointment with this phone.

I agree on somethings you have to say about the GS3, I too am a heavy iPhone user and I have been looking for a good Android to replace the iPhone 4s with. I have access to ANY phone I want as well and I have tested just about them all, One X's Lumina 900's ect they were all good but I kept coming back to the iPhone 4S, it just couldn't be beat.
Until now, I've been using an International GS3 and just switched to the ATT version and while both were good, the ATT model works better, I live in LTE even though my phone is on Home WiFi most of the time. I prefer the ATT over the Quad Core model.
But this thing does it all the iPhone does, I've got everything syncing back and forth with all the Mac's iPads ect, its all good to go.
The little iPhone screen is just to small these days, if your like my buddy that never tired a 4 plus inch screen then your fine with the iPhone, but no way can I try and read emails on the iPhone, just too small.
The GS3 is here to stay, until the next greatest thing comes out.
Oh and the Rock Case is way better the Case Mate's.:good:

Cool story bro.
TROLL BAIT!
Who are you again that we should all listen to your opinion?
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Yes i am a troll. Im a troll that really likes this phone. Im going to give it more time. Ive tried 100s of Android phones and hands down this is the best. compared to the iPhone its quirky but I'm bored out of my mind with the iPhone 4 design and small screen so I'm think I'm going to switch to this baby until the iPhone 5 hits the market in 4 months or so.

I too would like to hear what the iPhone can do that the s3 can't? I also went from the iPhone a 3GS model to the S3 and it can do anything that my iphone did and may things it does better. Like the last poster stated the iPhone is just too small plus this thing is just way faster than my iPhone ever dreamed of being.

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First of all let me give you a little background about myself. I am the mobile admin for a major software company in Silicon valley. I have access to any phone I feel that is worth testing so I can be completely unbiased. Here are the pros and cons of the S3 which I am now testing:
Pros:
1. Screen is big and very nice. It is pentile but I can barely tell. The iPhone 4s is a bit sharper but the s3 just looks better. Blacks are black. and they toned down the punchiness of the OMLED
2. The phone is thin and sexy. I got the casemate barley there which gives the phone more grip and fits like a glove.
Cons:
1. It gets warm with use.
2. When using auto brightness the avg brightness is to week. If it were bumped up about 25% it would be perfect or even better if you could adjust the avg brightness like you can with the iPhone it would be perfect.
2. Im in the bay area and do not get a solid LTE signal with ATT like I do on the iPad. Most of the times its on 4G 5 bars when my iPad has LTE. When it is in LTE I get the usual 20-40mbps which is great.
3. Android OS is just not as polished and solid as iOS. Yes it has more capabilities but it just doesn't work as well for me.
4. it was charged to 100 percent at midnight so I unplugged it and went to bed. Woke up at 7 am and it was at %50. I looked at the battery menu and didn't see anything out of the norm. Yes its possible I left some app running in the back ground but I should not have to worry about that. Apple got it right why can't google? If I ever forget to plug it in then it will most likely die in the middle of the night and I may miss an important work call. The iPhone can be at %20 and if I forget to charge it, it will be at %15 in the am.
Overall the perceived build quality doesn't compare to the iPhone 4s but its not bad with the gorilla glass 2 screen and Casemate barely there. Even though the 4S feels more solid Id feel safer dropping the S3 then the 4s since the 4S has more glass. Im really hoping to make this my primary phone but its no where near the 4S in terms of usefull functionality. Hardware wise its light years ahead. With the 4S i use it as a tool. With the S3 i use at so I can look at it and go ooooh ahhhh. I keep picking it up so I can run my finger across the awesome OMLED screen to hear the water and look at my background pic which is the dandy lion. Now if I could just blow on it
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Thank you for taking the time to write your review. Even though I don't see eye to eye with everything you said I do appreciate the time you took to write it! C:

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Thank you for taking the time to write your review. Even though I don't see eye to eye with everything you said I do appreciate the time you took to write it! C:
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Yes I do too, but he does seem a bit trollish since he has answered off haned comments, but fails to answer a question 2 people have asked already. " What can the iPhone do that the GS3 can't?"

Im not downing the s3 at all. On the contrary i think its a great phone and better then the iphone 4 in many ways and I have pretty much decided to make it my primary phone. I was just being honest about a few things I found that I do not like but its my opinion.
in my opinion Apple's iOS may not have the flexibility and features of Android but it is rock solid and does what it does best. Now with my ipad 3 and the S3 I have the best of both worlds. The S3 is an amazing phone but I stand by my review from my personal experience.
Is that clear to you curtiswalker29?
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Is that clear enough with ya?
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I find it hard to believe that you are un bias, you seem to be very much ingrained inn the ios camp. Which is to bad because I was expecting an gives review. That being said, I disagree with you on a few points.
First off, the last 4 nights I have had Nino more than 6% battery drain, most nights have been about 5 or 4. So 50 is hard to believe unless you had to screen on all night with apps running.
Second, I have an iPhone 4 and compared my sgs3 with a 4s and hands down the sgs3 was know responsive, more fluid, and multi tasking was un comparable. I returned an app a day later and was at the exact same place doing the same action as if I never left.
All actions performed faster on the sgs3.
Maps and GPS lock quicker and load faster.
S voice actual understands what I say 90% of the time vs 50% with siri.
I use to be a hardcore ios guy, always pcs though, and I couldn't imagined going back to such a stifling os like ios.
I to am curious at what you believe runs better on ios vs android.
The only thing ios has that android doesn't is consistency among hardware which equals an overall smoother software experience due to the lack of fragmentation. But is rather have choices and freedom in my software and hardware than be pigeon held to what Apple believes I want.
The screen on the 4 s is nice, but ios a screen that small it is wasted.
Additionally, I hate even calling ios an operating system, it's nothing more than a glorified app launcher. Up until recently it lacked all customizability, and even now are so far behind android in terms of os function that they are going to have to make significant changes to even the playing field. Android simply creates a feature rich os, leaving ios seeming stale and UN bending.
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I am sure with a little bit of time getting to know the ends and outs of the new operating sytem and tricks that you will like it just as much. I think it's a matter of what you get used too IMO.
Did you know that it can do Visual Voicemail too? I installed the app from the market and it works well. Just had a heck of a time getting AT&T to provision the service right, but that's not the phone's fault.

Well I'd say that was a pretty unbiased review so thank you. Some people will feel otherwise, but this is a GSIII forum so most people here are obviously going to be pretty biased towards THEIR own phone lol.
I have tweaked and played with the whole spectrum of iOS devices and android devices. I have a Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, and an iPad3 (and a GSIII and GSII ) so I'm pretty unbiased as well.
IMHO, this phone is first that really gives the iPhone4s and iOS a run for its money. Out of the box there's no question that iOS and the iPhone4 are more polished. The iPhone4S feels great in your hand and iOS is very intuitive especially for people who have little to know interest in 'tweaking' things.
But the screen is far too small, the glass is VERY prone to breaking if dropped, and I don't like to be looked into iOS's ecosystem.
I used an iPhone4 while I waited for my GSIII to arrive and all in all it wasn't that bad. At this point in time I think virtually everything you can do on one platform, you can do on the other. All just personal preference I guess.
But I will say apple needs to really have some groundbreaking stuff for the iPhone5 to keep up!

Thanks for the write up but I to would like to know what the iphone can do that the sgs3 cannot?
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Can some one tell me why they think ios is more intuitive? How so? Android operates far mode naturally, with gesture control, motion activation, combination actions like reject call to text... android is far more seamless to operate and navigate from home to app to app etc... the only reason why I believe people think ios is more intuitive is, because it has been around so long and has changed very little, people are confusing intuitive with familiar... that's just my take on it.
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Can some one tell me why they think ios is more intuitive? How so? Android operates far mode naturally, with gesture control, motion activation, combination actions like reject call to text... android is far more seamless to operate and navigate from home to app to app etc... the only reason why I believe people think ios is more intuitive is, because it has been around so long and has changed very little, people are confusing intuitive with familiar... that's just my take on it.
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agree, it's muscle memory. I've used android so much that I stumble using an iphone and many things to me seem counter intuitive. it doesn't mean the system is bad, it just means my experience gives me a different way of doing things. another example of this is a study that was done on IQ tests. When they asked a bunch of kids from chicago and puerto rico to give an example of umbrella use, the kids from chicago said the obvious, for rain. the puerto rican kids stated that it was for sunny days, giving completely different answers and uses. So each group gave answers that spoke to their personal experiences.
so to go back to the point at hand, the whole android vs ios thing is stupid because it all depends on your perspective. how a ui feels, if it's intuitive or smooth, if a phone feels sturdy or not, these are subjective feelings that are too dependent on things that build up to that. they are also dependent on your own viewpoint of smartphones. if a smartphone is in the same category as a toaster to you then ios is great, but if a smartphone is an artifact that increases the capacities of the human senses, then android will probably be your bet.

Lol at OMLED. It sounds like omelet. Maybe I can make an omelet when playing a game and charging at the same time.
Yeah if you weren't aware, XDA is as anti-Apple as it gets. Don't expect reasonable replies. The cult of Android is far worse than the cult of STeve Jobs. I think AndroidCentral is a little bit better. Not by much.
iOS is way simpler and predictable. The answer is really that simple. An OS can install apps and programs. That's it. Customization is not a requirement. Look at Windows Phone. Having a single button and apps already there on the screen makes a big difference. The extra layers that Android adds with homescreens and app drawers and capacitive buttons and secret menus and randomly holding things to see if functions pop up. Ugh. Not as intuitive. The back button closes the app but the home button doesn't? How about just keep a stranglehold on memory and background services so battery life is always good no matter what. The idea is so novel.
The next Android version should be called Sour Patch Kid. SPK

thats like saying you know it makes so much sense, it's common logic, why can't you see my logic whats wrong with you -_-

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Lol at OMLED. It sounds like omelet. Maybe I can make an omelet when playing a game and charging at the same time.
Yeah if you weren't aware, XDA is as anti-Apple as it gets. Don't expect reasonable replies. The cult of Android is far worse than the cult of STeve Jobs. I think AndroidCentral is a little bit better. Not by much.
iOS is way simpler and predictable. The answer is really that simple. An OS can install apps and programs. That's it. Customization is not a requirement. Look at Windows Phone. Having a single button and apps already there on the screen makes a big difference. The extra layers that Android adds with homescreens and app drawers and capacitive buttons and secret menus and randomly holding things to see if functions pop up. Ugh. Not as intuitive. The back button closes the app but the home button doesn't? How about just keep a stranglehold on memory and background services so battery life is always good no matter what. The idea is so novel.
The next Android version should be called Sour Patch Kid. SPK
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Actually this post shows that you know nothing of android.
First off, backing doesnt close programs unless a) you specify it to by selecting (kill app on longpress) or b) if the app prompts you to do so.
Secondly, you obviously have been brain washed to think that an app launcher is the same thing as an os. (And yes WM is in the same category as ios) take a look at any pc/Mac based os, you are provided with a user defined workspace, within this workspace you can control, launch, schedule and manipulate software and data through out the system. All a dedicated app launcher does Is to organize each individual program for access and deployment... that's all ios really is.
Long pressing and gestures are all part pour the process that makes these devices more intuitive... that's what intuitive means, taking tasks and making them more seamless and natural... this is of course based on perception. But considering that I have spent atleast twice as much time on ios than android my perception is well rounded. I still have an iPhone 4 I use it as a music player for my kids. And occasionally play with it and everything seemingly takes more steps.
now I know you are a troll, I've seen you in many other threads trying to reassure and convince yourself that ios is in some way superior, that must be a constant struggle.
Admittedly, ios has its benefits, but everyday android advances while ios stays stagnant, they as just now implementing features that android has had for two years. I home they step up their game and make android work for their inevitable win. I guess we will see what the iPhone 5 will bring, but if it's just a 4" 4s then they will practically give their customers to android. It's only a Matter of time before the faithful Iphone users see that the others are passing them up. That's what happened to me, I use to argue to no end with my friends on android but eventually got so board with ios that I bought an infuse to replace my 4 and have since seen what these devices can really do when allowed the freedom to do so.
But continue to live in your house of mirrors, you'll be here sooner or later.
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Yeah punk... Lol
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My 1st smartphone was when the iPhone 1st came out. Since my 1st android device (Droid/Milestone), I was converted and became an iPhone hater(especially after I got the Nexus One). But you gotta admit, the iPhone can hold its charge better than any Android. With that I have to place the blame on the OS. But who knows??? If iOS implemented widgets on the homescreen it might b a different story. OTHER THAN Better BATTERY management, there isn't anything that the iPhone can do that my Android can't. It's the iPhone that CAN'T do a lot of what Android phones can.

[Q] Happy with your Nexus 4?

I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!

I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!

ak700 said:
I am satisfied with my Nexus 4. Being using for 2 weeks and it's the best your money can buy.
If storage and glass aren't a big deal, then this phone is the best choice.
PS Ordered the second one on 27th for my bro. I love it SOOO much!
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what about the lack of LTE?

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what about the lack of LTE?
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When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.

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When I am in SF for work, I have LTE but I need to use office wifi for tranfer and other stuff. At home, my LTE is soooo slow that I need to use my home wifi.
Bottom Line - I don't need LTE.
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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?

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Thinking about it now makes me realize that I don't have to have it and Wi-fi really is everywhere. I'm guessing you are on T-Mobile right? So you purchased at a discount?
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No I order through the Play store and use tmobile pre-paid's $30 plan. Works for me. I also have Sprint, which my family uses.

Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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Love my nexus 4... Official cm10. Official PA. official AOKP. Franco and Faux kernels...
Gorgeous 768p IPS. Luxury feel in the hand. Amazingly slick curved display (defiantly don't want to drop this phone)
Meh camera (still great though, just not exciting) and some thermal throttling (being worked on)...
Lte is a non issue as hspa± is plenty fast. I mean, it loads YouTube, music, xda all instantly. Its not like we are doing real time video games and 1080p video streaming (just runs down my data plan quicker)
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You really make some valid points. Camera on my HTC One X is nothing crazy either. (pretty sure they have the same specs?) I'd also like to get into modding my phone and I think the Nexus would make it easy but I honestly have no idea what I would be doing. Hahaha. How do I learn more about it because I'm a complete newb.

Awesome phone, I completely love it. Don't need LTE either. External SD would have made this phone too good to be true.

Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Got it on the 19th, being a pig in mud since.
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Haha. Love the metaphor! :good: I can see everyone loves their Nexus that's for sure!

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I'm new to the forums here and I have the HTC One X (ATT) and I've come to hate the lack of support of it and also all of the control ATT has over the updates. So I started looking into the Nexus 4 and just wanted see how satisfied or unsatisfied actual users were with their Nexus 4. So please comment and share your thoughts!
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I got the N4 in the mail the Monday after it came out. I too am coming from the AT&T HTC One X. I used the N4 for about a week straight before deciding to break out the ol' One X (just for a change of pace). Quite frankly, it would be hard for me to give up the N4 for the HOX now.
The HOX is a great phone, but the N4 just makes it feel slow in comparison. Maybe I'm spoiled by the speed of the N4, but I just felt like I had to wait forever to do basic things on the One X (running the latest ViperROM, btw). The HOX has better battery life, for sure, and the camera is better. I miss those two things the most. The HOX still has the best screen out there (other than the Droid DNA), but the N4 really isn't far behind. Once a few color control apps come out for the N4, my guess is that I won't really miss the screen as much. For what it's worth, I forgot just how big the HOX's screen is. When they say 4.7", they mean it. The N4 has a 4.7" screen too, but it's probably more like a 4.5" once the on-screen buttons are considered. But the additional width is really nice and almost makes up for it. I don't have LTE anywhere near me where I live, so that's irrelevant to me. I don't travel much either.
Here's my summary.
HTC One X:
- slightly better, arguably bigger screen
- better battery
- better camera (in terms of picture quality; the software is on par with the N4)
- smaller development community, although they're doing a great job imo
- poor multitasking on Sense roms (works fine on AOSP roms)
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- stock Android
- blazes through any task you throw at it
- AT&T doesn't control your phone
- easier to root, flash roms, kernels, etc.
- future proof with quad-core processor and 2GB of RAM
I am fully satisfied with my Nexus 4. I love my One X, but I will not be going back to it any time soon, most likely.

I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!

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I've actually been with the iPhone since the 3GS when I came into the smartphone world. I read up about this and decided to give it a try from the 4S I was using, and I'm really enjoying the Nexus 4.
I'm still a bit apprehensive to give up iOS since I've been with it for so long--still haven't sold my 4S--but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with this phone for a while. The larger screen real-estate is also much nicer to have in general. I'm torn!
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I feel like you and me are one in the same! The only thing I do miss is the amount of iPhone users. All my friends and family have one... Which makes me miss iMessage and group texting :/

You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MEdia Net plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.

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You are on the forums and mentioned your problems with the 1X community's lack of activity.
I like the screen, but other phones have better screens which are also better calibrated. I like the camera, but indoor photos have very inaccurate white balance.
Connectivity is good (I'm using a $10 MediaNET plan from AT&T and have used over 2GB every month and one month even went over 12GB cause my Internet was out), and I'm getting 500KB/s average (~4Mbps). Battery life is also good; I get about a day of moderate use and 6-7 hours of literally constant, active use. I am really hurting from the lack of storage as I do a lot of reporting and don't always have time to transfer the interview recordings. I do a lot of work away from a PC and need to be able to quickly seek tracks, so I have to keep he audio on internal memory.
By most people's standard, I'm very careful with my phone. I consider my usage to be of common sense and responsible practice. The Gorilla Glass is very scratch resistant, but I'm sure a few encounters with silicate and a hard surface would leave a mark.
But really, all of these things pale in comparison to one criterion: the development community. I came from a Galaxy S and the community was amazing. Though the HP Touch Pad was well known, it apparently wasn't popular enough to garner a lot of dev support and those forums are fairly sparse.
By getting a Nexus phone, you know that the every dev is prioritizing your phone over any other model they might be working on as well. Cyanogen posted. AOKP posted. Moles posted. These are the respective heads of the three best teams this community has to offer. Check their post history. They don't appear in too many other phones' forums; they usually have teammates do that. But for the Nexus 4, they want to be the ones posting. That says a lot.
And a lot of other devs know this about the community heads' devotion to the newest Nexus model. They are locked in to a N4 for the major dev support, but will also provide their own amateur, but very valuable, contributions as well.
I'm sure the 1X is a great phone. I'm sure the 1X+ is a great phone. Same goes for the DNA, Optimus G, and other leading smartphones out there. But the N4 attracts the biggest development teams, and in turn attracts smaller developers. It kind of feeds on itself, with regard to popularity. None of these other phones have so much 3rd party support going on for them.
So, if you are looking for the absolute best hardware, maybe you should keep looking (keep the N4 in mind, though). If you're looking for flexibility, know that your stuck with one battery on the road and can't expand the meager storage provided. But if your looking for ROMs, kernels, and tweaks that let you customize the phone exactly how you want it, and maximize the potential of the hardware, then look no further.
The Nexus 4 subforums are truly the promised land.
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Couldn't have said it better. The best devs are working on this phone (provided if they could get one) and that is the exciting part of Nexus4. Trumps all other phones out there.
It might seem very complicated at once if you are not familiar with Android, but it's actually quite simple. And people are always there to help. I'm looking forward to at least 1 great year with this phone.
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And the fact that I am the only one I know are using it makes it super cool. I have several friends who know of N4 but didn't purchase one all liked the phone after I showed them. Their impression was the speed and the screen.
A friend asked me to purchase an iPhone for him since I'm going back to China soon. While in Apple Store, I took out my phone and google talk'ed with him. I can't help but notice the "Genius" looking at me. :laugh: And signing on that 3.5' tiny screen is just ridiculous. I paid half the price for what he is gonna pay for that piece of gadget, but I don't even have the desire to try out the iPhone 5 in their store.

When I got my N4 I was stunned at the slim look and mild colors. I wasn't sure if I'd like it after being on an SGS2 for over a year. I've gotten to where I really love everything about the phone, except the signal.. It sucks.
I can hold the phone next to my Nexus 7 or Galaxy Tab 10.1 and where I would normally get full bars of Wifi signal, I get 1 bar if I am lucky. The cellular signal is terrible as well. Living in Florida with hurricane glass and Double block walls - my SGS2 got really good signal, this thing is just garbage. If you rely on good signal, its not for you..
The touch sensitivity on the on-screen buttons at the lower portion of the phone seem to be not so great, other than that and the signal issues everything else is excellent..

I'm very happy with my 8GB
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Like you, I previously owned a at&t htc one x as well. I ordered my nexus 4 on the 13th and have been using it for a couple of weeks now. Since then, I have sold my htc one x.
to be completely honest, i have to say i liked the camera and screen combination of the htc one x better. Colors on the htc one x were brilliant and vivid, while the nexus 4 screen seemed to look dull. this is all personal preference, but i prefer the 'over-saturated' look.
speed on the nexus 4 is a lot faster compared to sense, but when i had cm10 on my htc one x it wasnt a slouch either.
in terms of aesthetics, they are both beautiful in their own ways. i quite liked the htc's design, but i agree on the lack of support, with the nexus you are guaranteed at least a couple of updates, (just look at the nexus s, got 4.1)
here's my advice to you: as nice as the nexus 4 is, if there is nothing wrong with you htc one x, dont upgrade. If you want jellybean 4.2 and dont want to wait for the update, root your HOX and put cm10 on it.
I was able to sell my HOX for $260 and my nexus 4 was $340 after taxes/shipping.

I for one am very happy with my Gnex4...Ive had every phone that came out this year...just sold my note 2 which was a pure beast if I must say but this nexus have a more snappier feeling as far as speed and etc...plus development is going crazy for this phone which is a big +....but overall this is the best phone on the market hands down...with the note 2 very close behind...

Buy Galaxy S4 or stick with Nexus 4 and buy iPhone 5?

Update:
I've been thinking long and hard about this dilemma for the last few days and I've finally made my decision...I'm just going to wait.
Next month when the S4 and HTC One are both released, I'm going to take a trip to the AT&T store and make a hands-on comparison between them and the iPhone 5. I'm not loyal to any brand (I've owned devices from all three companies, all of which have been great), so I'm just going to pick the one I like the best. What really made me begin doubting my choice to get an iPhone 5 is the large price for the 64gb version I would have to purchase in order to store my music collection. $400 is ridiculous for any phone on contract. However, if the S4 has subpar audio quality and the HTC One underwhelms me or AT&T doesn't offer the 64gb variant, I will more than likely be splurging for the iPhone 5. But, after thinking about it, I really don't want to. While messing with my Nexus 4 today, it hit me hard how much fun I've had with Android. It's the most powerful, dev-friendly mobile OS and it truly gives the user the ability to make their phone their phone. And I feel like purchasing an iPhone would be going against everything I've enjoyed with Android, even if I still do have a Nexus 4. So, if at all possible, I'll be purchasing either the S4 or the HTC One (I'm growing fonder of it with each passing day). But if the storage and sound quality expectations I have cannot be met, I will more than likely buy an iPhone 5 simply for the fact that I made a promise to myself that my next smartphone would also be my MP3 player.
I'd like to thank everyone who posted in this thread and helped me make my decision. Many of you actually did bring up some very helpful points and made me seriously consider what I should use my upgrade on.
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I've been conflicted lately. My mom recently bought an iPhone 5 and I've sort of fallen in love with it. I'm no fan of the home screen (it is very, very boring), but the apps are amazing and the audio quality (both external and internal) is great. I'm also not very bothered by the screen size. In a way, moving to something smaller is slightly refreshing. However, it's still an iPhone and I think there's a possibility I could become bored with it...but when I consider this, I remember that I do have a Nexus 4, so I wouldn't be abandoning Android completely. And so here's my idea:
Option one - Keep Nexus 4 (I'm keeping it either way) and buy a Galaxy S4):
Benefits:
Both run Android, though one is skinned with many new features
The Galaxy S4 is a true flagship and should excel in all areas the Nexus 4 doesn't (camera, etc)
I'm sticking with one platform
Negatives:
Android is getting a little old to me and the Galaxy S4 might bore me even more than an iPhone 5 (I'm eagerly awaiting Key Lime Pie; the ICS/Jelly Bean look is wearing thin on me)
The S4 with the S600 (the one I'll be getting since I live in the states) will not have as good audio quality as the iPhone 5 (internal or external)
The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase" (not that I really care; I make a ton of those)
Option two - Keep Nexus 4 and buy an iPhone 5:
Benefits:
I get to keep up with the two largest mobile platforms
When I finally get a Mac Mini, I'll have integration with it
The apps are great
Audio quality is great
Build quality is amazing
I won't have to wait for updates through the carrier
I could keep up with Android through my Nexus 4
The battery life is probably longer than the S4's despite having a smaller battery
iOS is really smooth and browsing is honestly a pleasure (not that it's not on Android; I just find it to be a bit better on the iPhone 5)
If I end up hating it, I can sell it and buy a Galaxy S4 (I would buy a 64gb iPhone 5, so it would definitely cover the cost of the S4)
If I end up loving it and want to buy the next model, I can sell it on eBay at an 85% resale value (great thing about Apple products)
Negatives:
The iPhone 5 is six months old (I would have to sell it on eBay for the next model pretty soonish)
I'd maybe have to rebuy some apps
I would sort of be be betraying Android, an operating system that I truly love
I'd have to find a way to wifi-tether (but this might be a problem on a carrier version of the S4, also)
Anyway, can anyone help me out with my decision? And please don't say anything like "Get the S4! iPhones suck!" Actually observe what I have written above and help me decide what the best choice for me is. Because right now I am ridiculously confused and have no idea what I should use my upgrade on.

Only you can decide what's best for you. Follow your gut.

jtc276 said:
I've been conflicted lately. My mom recently bought an iPhone 5 and I've sort of fallen in love with it. I'm no fan of the home screen (it is very, very boring), but the apps are amazing and the audio quality (both external and internal) is great. I'm also not very bothered by the screen size. In a way, moving to something smaller is slightly refreshing. However, it's still an iPhone and I think there's a possibility I could become bored with it...but when I consider this, I remember that I do have a Nexus 4, so I wouldn't be abandoning Android completely. And so here's my idea:
Option one - Keep Nexus 4 (I'm keeping it either way) and buy a Galaxy S4):
Benefits:
Both run Android, though one is skinned with many new features
The Galaxy S4 is a true flagship and should excel in all areas the Nexus 4 doesn't (camera, etc)
I'm sticking with one platform
Negatives:
Android is getting a little old to me and the Galaxy S4 might bore me even more than an iPhone 5 (I'm eagerly awaiting Key Lime Pie; the ICS/Jelly Bean look is wearing thin on me)
The S4 with the S600 (the one I'll be getting since I live in the states) will not have as good audio quality as the iPhone 5 (internal or external)
The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase" (not that I really care; I make a ton of those)
Option two - Keep Nexus 4 and buy an iPhone 5:
Benefits:
I get to keep up with the two largest mobile platforms
When I finally get a Mac Mini, I'll have integration with it
The apps are great
Audio quality is great
Build quality is amazing
I won't have to wait for updates through the carrier
I could keep up with Android through my Nexus 4
The battery life is probably longer than the S4's despite having a smaller battery
iOS is really smooth and browsing is honestly a pleasure (not that it's not on Android; I just find it to be a bit better on the iPhone 5)
If I end up hating it, I can sell it and buy a Galaxy S4 (I would buy a 64gb iPhone 5, so it would definitely cover the cost of the S4)
If I end up loving it and want to buy the next model, I can sell it on eBay at an 85% resale value (great thing about Apple products)
Negatives:
The iPhone 5 is six months old (I would have to sell it on eBay for the next model pretty soonish)
I'd maybe have to rebuy some apps
I would sort of be be betraying Android, an operating system that I truly love
I'd have to find a way to wifi-tether (but this might be a problem on a carrier version of the S4, also)
Anyway, can anyone help me out with my decision? And please don't say anything like "Get the S4! iPhones suck!" Actually observe what I have written above and help me decide what the best choice for me is. Because right now I am ridiculously confused and have no idea what I should use my upgrade on.
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I would go with the Qualcomm S4. I personally see cyanogenmod as a must for my new phones. When I got my I9300, I didn't even check to see what the stock rom features were. Rooted it and install CM9 in 20 minutes. My main problem with the iPhone (don't know if it's changed) is the need for iTunes to sync your media. I much prefer to rip my CDs and drag and drop the flac files in conveniently organized folders. I had an old iPod where iTunes would take readable mp3 files like "My Favorite Song.mp3" and stick them in some obscure folder and give them weird names like a9wepjmcw.mp3. Not to mention for video files I like to keep them organized in a way I can understand. I just hate being tied down to iTunes for trivial things like loading new music, movies etc. Also, while you may not have to wait on a carrier for firmware updates, if rooting/jailbreaking means anything to you, you WILL be waiting for the newest jailbreak fix to come out. At least on android you have CM to take care of carrier updates. My SGS1 runs android 4.2. One of the biggest benefits I think of rooting/jailbreaking is just for the ad blockers. Makes a MUCH cleaner phone experience.
And, I think the whole build quality is highly overrated. As long as it doesn't scratch too easily I could care less whether the phone is made of the cheapest looking plastic or highly reflective aluminum. I buy my phones (when I can afford them) for the raw hardware power and CM, not really for the premium look. Sadly, I'm not due for a new phone at least until 64bit armv8 comes out in 2015? (Which ever comes later.)

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I would go with the Qualcomm S4. I personally see cyanogenmod as a must for my new phones. When I got my I9300, I didn't even check to see what the stock rom features were. Rooted it and install CM9 in 20 minutes. My main problem with the iPhone (don't know if it's changed) is the need for iTunes to sync your media. I much prefer to rip my CDs and drag and drop the flac files in conveniently organized folders. I had an old iPod where iTunes would take readable mp3 files like "My Favorite Song.mp3" and stick them in some obscure folder and give them weird names like a9wepjmcw.mp3. Not to mention for video files I like to keep them organized in a way I can understand. I just hate being tied down to iTunes for trivial things like loading new music, movies etc. Also, while you may not have to wait on a carrier for firmware updates, if rooting/jailbreaking means anything to you, you WILL be waiting for the newest jailbreak fix to come out. At least on android you have CM to take care of carrier updates. My SGS1 runs android 4.2. One of the biggest benefits I think of rooting/jailbreaking is just for the ad blockers. Makes a MUCH cleaner phone experience.
And, I think the whole build quality is highly overrated. As long as it doesn't scratch too easily I could care less whether the phone is made of the cheapest looking plastic or highly reflective aluminum. I buy my phones (when I can afford them) for the raw hardware power and CM, not really for the premium look. Sadly, I'm not due for a new phone at least until 64bit armv8 comes out in 2015? (Which ever comes later.)
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I completely agree with basically everything that you've said, but I already have two Nexus devices (the 4 and 7) so pure Android is always going to be accessible to me. Also, I sort of keep my entire music library in iTunes anyway. I just always have, even when I haven't owned Apple devices. Sometimes I'd use it alongside of another one such as MediaMonkey or Winamp, but I always found iTunes to be the simplest when it comes to managing music, burning CDs (am I the only person who still does this?), and finding new music.
As for audio quality, I usually go for strictly 320 Kbps MP3s. FLAC files are huge and I've never been able to notice a huge difference (maybe a slight one), so it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the hissing I get with the Qualcomm DAC on my Nexus 4. The rom/kernel I'm on increased the volume (making it about equal with the iPhone). However, at about 3/4 of the volume level, distortion kicks in. I'm worried that this will also be problem for the S4 considering the DAC from the S4 Pro to the S600 is probably the same. For probably two years now I have been dying to have all of my music locally on my phone. It hasn't been possible due to either hardware limitations (16gb of storage on the Nexus 4 is a no-go) or horrible DACs (Galaxy S2).
The more I think of it, the more I like the idea of the iPhone. I mean, the Galaxy S4 is by no means going to be bad phone. If I didn't have the Nexus 4 to keep up with Android, I'd buy it immediately. But I think this time around I'm going to try something different. I'm not 100% sure, yet. But probably 60% of me is leaning towards the 5.
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The Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade over the Nexus 4 and could even be considered a "needless purchase"
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If you think like this buy an iphone.

honestly, I think you should go for the iPhone.
the nexus 4 is a great device, and even though the S4 is much better (IMO) it's not worth keeping if you buy an S4,
I would say sell the nexus, get the S4 and the iPhone 5 ahah
but maybe you like the nexus more than I do
if I had the S4, I doubt I'd ever get the Nexus 4 even though I'd like to have multiple phones I think I'd be better off with the S4 and an iPhone

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If you think like this buy an iphone.
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Ok. Yes. The Galaxy S4 is better in many areas. However, if the Galaxy S4 isn't a huge upgrade from the S3, it's definitely not a huge upgrade to the Nexus 4.
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PLUG313 said:
honestly, I think you should go for the iPhone.
the nexus 4 is a great device, and even though the S4 is much better (IMO) it's not worth keeping if you buy an S4,
I would say sell the nexus, get the S4 and the iPhone 5 ahah
but maybe you like the nexus more than I do
if I had the S4, I doubt I'd ever get the Nexus 4 even though I'd like to have multiple phones I think I'd be better off with the S4 and an iPhone
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I would much rather keep the Nexus 4 because it gets updates from Google and Key Lime Pie will be out pretty soon. However, I can understand why others would rather have the S4 than the Nexus 4 because of the hardware. But every time a new Android OS update is released, I get software envy, so it's best for me to keep a Nexus device.
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iPhone?
I would go for S4 as of now... Did you look at the benchies?

hell_storm2004 said:
iPhone?
I would S4 for now... Did you look at the benchies?
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No. Because I've never found benchmarks to be a good indication of real world usage. The iPhone 5 is ridiculously smooth. I was literally blown away when I realized how smooth it was compared to my Nexus 4 which I considered to be the smoothest phone I've ever used.

jtc276 said:
No. Because I've never found benchmarks to be a good indication of real world usage. The iPhone 5 is ridiculously smooth. I was literally blown away when I realized how smooth it was compared to my Nexus 4 which I considered to be the smoothest phone I've ever used.
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seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already

PLUG313 said:
seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already
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Just saying did you look at the benchies or not... not asking you to base your choice of phone out of it. Although it no matter a whole lot if the differences are marginal. But certainly does matter when the differences are huge!

hell_storm2004 said:
Just saying did you look at the benchies or not... not asking you to base your choice of phone out of it. Although it no matter a whole lot if the differences are marginal. But certainly does matter when the differences are huge!
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Yes. I did look at them. The S4 is around two times-faster (processor-wise) than the 5. However, you wouldn't be able to know that when actually using it.
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PLUG313 said:
seriously, I think you should go for the iPhone
I know that deep inside you've made up your mind and want it
you've got a great android phone already
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Yeah. I've pretty much made my mind up. I'm going to go with the 5. There's no point in having two great Android phones when I can I have one great Android phone and one great iOS phone. And I'll be switching between the two every now and then just to see how each of ecosystem is improving (I'm VERY excited for KLP and I hope that iOS 7 makes some UI changes).
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jtc276 said:
Yeah. I've pretty much made my mind up. I'm going to go with the 5. There's no point in having two great Android phones when I can I have one great Android phone and one great iOS phone. And I'll be switching between the two every now and then just to see how each of ecosystem is improving (I'm VERY excited for KLP and I hope that iOS 7 makes some UI changes).
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yeah, that's nice
just make sure you at least jailbreak it xD
what's KLP btw?

Have a mind of your own and decide for yourself. :good:

PLUG313 said:
yeah, that's nice
just make sure you at least jailbreak it xD
what's KLP btw?
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Key Lime Pie. AKA: Android 5.0
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Do whatever you want, who cares. (Excuse my honesty
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Omg I'm so considering this now that tmobile is selling the iPhone starting this April. I love android to death but the iPhone seems so smooth and stable. The only problem with the iPhone is no swiping keyboards and it had a terrible battery compared to the s4.
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Closed Source Project said:
Omg I'm so considering this now that tmobile is selling the iPhone starting this April. I love android to death but the iPhone seems so smooth and stable. The only problem with the iPhone is no swiping keyboards and it had a terrible battery compared to the s4.
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It has a smaller battery, but it's by no means terrible. The battery life on the 5 I've used has been better than most (or maybe all) of my past Android phones.
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