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Hi, sorry to sound like a noob, but I have read so much and am trying to keep up with what works now but didn't work when some of the old posts I read were posted, and just some general questions to clear things up. My s4 comes tomorrow and I want to be clear I have this down, seems like a much bigger pain than my S3 at least upfront.
So lets assume it comes with mf3 out of the box. I assume it will, is this still the issue? Safestrap is what I do, there still isn't an unlocked bootloader?
So assuming it is mf3 this is what I gather I need to do. I will root by doing the thing with terminal and a micro sd. This still works? It's still as easy as the guide I found says it is? Just have the files on root of micro sd and run the command in terminal?
Ok, so after I root I install the safestrap apk (turn on all sources of course first) and then install it or hit install recovery or whatever it says. Then boot and when I see the splash screen hit the recovery option.
At this point is the most confusion. There is a lot of talk in older posts about creating ram slots and not over writing stock rom. However some more recent posts I read mention over writing stock rom with a custom rom. So what do I do here. Assuming I create a few rom slots can I essential dual boot between roms? Can I have a google play edition and a TW edition just a reboot away?
After I do whatever with a rom then flash the kernal from the safestrap post.
Then reboot into said rom.
Then that's it? Going forward I can overwrite a rom slot with whatever custom rom I want?
Is there any limitations to roms or anything?
Lastely, is there any progress in unlocking the bootloader to just put a custom recovery on and have it be like other devices, or with safestrap has everyone just given up on that?
Thanks.
You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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[email protected] said:
You need to read this from the beginning of the page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
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That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.
failedjedi said:
That doesn't really answer anything and in fact just seems to add to my issues.
"Also, at this time, only TW based ROMs will work with SS. CM, AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, etc will not work. "
is stated. However there are million other posts about people saying they are on CM or other AOSP roms.
It seems so much has changed over the past few months and sifting through all these posts and figuring what still applies now and what's old information seems impossible.
Plus I saw no post with actual discussion about overwriting stock rom. Just following along the safestrap thread all of a sudden people were saying don't do it, then all of a sudden people are doing it.
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Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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Okay let me clear this up for you. A guy that worked at best buy got the mf3 tar files from the Samsung smart that they use at best buy to fix peoples phones. So with the newer posts saying do it, is because you have the tar files to Odin back to stock in case anything happens. So older posts we weren't able to do that because we didn't have the tar files.
Now there are 4.2.2 Google edition roms that are based on tw but has the aosp feel to it you can have as one slot, than you can have a tw in another slot and flash back and fourth, which you can have up to 3 or 4 Roms slots as long as you have the storage for it you can make it. It use to be that you could only make 1,2, or 3 gig ROM slots for safestrap but I think you can partition more gigs now.
The people that are saying that they're on cm, aosp Roms are people who have the MDL firmware which there was an exploit for the boot loader, once mf3 hit Samsung and att locked that exploit up and its been so locked down people are getting rid of their s4's.
If your phone comes with mf3 first thing to do is not to set up WiFi yet and don't take an update. Root the device via the SD card method or kingo root method, than get safestrap installed and flash whatever ROM two based ROM for 4.2.2 you want. Hope that clears up some things
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Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?
failedjedi said:
Ok, thanks for clearing that app. So when browsing ROMS I just have to make sure I get a TW based one, or even within touchwiz is there specific ROMS for mf3?
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If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.
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If you would have bothered to read the thread that was linked for you (that you claimed didn't help you) you would have seen a list of ROMs in the OP.
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I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.
failedjedi said:
I see the list, does it say "these are the only working roms" - no.
It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?
And lastly, the reason I made the original post in the first place, how current is that info. There is conflicting info all over the place, and so many posts like the one linked don't date updates and changes consistently.
If that was the definitive list 3 months ago, but more are widely accepted as working since then, I have no way of no way of knowing that.
There is no single post that has properly dated updated information all in one place. I appreciate there are people that have been doing this and keeping up with this stuff for a while now, but as a new s4 owner, this mf3 stuff is not only different, but all the proper info is spread out all over the place and not dated.
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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.
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That is why you need to take time to learn and read. It sounds as if you are wanting someone else to do all of the research for you. If the information is spread out to you, than it is to others also. Search, read, and learn...that is the only way to get the information you need. I'm really not sure what else you are looking for? If you are looking for someone to tell you exactly what ROMs (out of every ROM available) will work 100% in your situation you are, that person doesn't exist. So like I asked, what is it you are looking for? Maybe if you clarify your request you can get more help, but remember, not that you will do this, but don't ask for anything that you should be able to do yourself.
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"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.
failedjedi said:
"It also says TW roms work, so do roms beyond those listed work. Or rather even if not confirmed "should" they work?"
That's what I'm looking for.
Can I in theory flash any TW ROM without risk of bricking, or am I actually limited to those confirmed. And follow up, how up to date is the confirmed list?
I can see all the information, I can do all the research, the problem is none of the information is dated, I read something about not overwriting stock rom slot, then I read something about doing it, and when nothing is dated for edits just the date of the original post shown, I don't know which piece of information is relevant and which piece to ignore.
If that list was dated and it was dated recently, I wouldn't have asked, I would have trusted it as an up to date list. But what if that list is 2 months old and there other roms now that are more relevant.
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This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.
scott14719 said:
This is probably the best answer you are going to get (though others might be able to help you). The thread states to only use 4.22 TW ROMs. That means, that in theory, any 4.22 TW based ROM should work. However, if the ROM isn't specifically listed in that thread, it is your own risk to try it. There is always risk. No one can guarantee anything even if it somehow worked for them them. So if you try a ROM that is not in the list, you are taking a risk. There is no other way to put it. If you want to know about a specific ROM not on the list, and it meets the requirements, you will need to search the ROMs development thread to see if it is mentioned as working with SafeStrap and if it hasn't been mentioned, then ask in that specific thread. The information in the SafeStrap thread's OP is generally current but it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on. It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it. It you choose to do something different than what the OP states, it is your risk. Good luck.
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"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.
failedjedi said:
"it is also important to read the entire thread to see what has changed from early on"
"It doesn't matter what anyone else claims to be running or doing, if it says to do or not do something in the OP, then listen to it."
This is my issue with the snarky comments here. You have been helpful, but all over there are snarky comments all with similar statements.
Make sure you read it, but don't trust what you read, make sure you spend 4 hours reading a 100+ page forum before you ask a simple question, I have seen simple yes/no questions answered with paragraph responses bashing OP for not reading.
Now in my case the 3 main posts that people should read to do this, if they were dated I would have been fine.
Again, not anyone here specifically for the most part, but XDA in general is full of this superiority attitude.
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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.
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It's not a "superiority" attitude as you put it, it is the RULES. You are expected to read as much as you need to to learn. If that means 1 day or 100 days, it's up to you. This is a development forum and not a "tutorial site. People are very helpful if you at least try to help yourself first. I told you, there is no "easy" answer for what you ask. You HAVE to try the ROMs for yourself if you want to risk it. Expecting someone else to do it so they can run back and give you the answer after they took the risk is a "superiority" attitude. I also told you,DO WHAT THE OP STATES! Anything else is your risk. Why is that hard to understand? Anything you try that is not stated in the OP is untried, unproven, and risky. It's that simple.
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I asked for clarification on conflicting information.
It's not hard to understand do what OP says. It's the fact that in 2 sentences you said both to read EVERYTHING for information, then insist on only getting viable information from OP, which is it?
I tried to only follow OP but saw conflicting info so asked for clarification, then get told to read everything. Then get told don't trust what I read only follow what OP says. When there are 3 different "must read" posts, by 3 different authors and they are conflicting what the f*** is anyone supposed to do.
You are the one that makes seem like I'm asking to be guided through baby steps. I didn't. I asked if all TW roms should in theory work, a simple yes, or as you finally did say in theory they should, would have sufficed. Just a simple clarification, instead you are the one putting more work into the issue. That could have ended it right there, instead you keep posting more contradictory statements.
I read, I figured out all the steps I needed to take, some stuff was worded odd, or had conflicting info and I just wanted clarification on what was still relevant. God forbid someone have to say yes or no to a few questions to save others the time of reading hundreds of pages stuff that is out of date.
Hey Mod this is going know where.
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Im Looking to buy an At&t SGS 4 On Popular bid Site and the listing says its an MDL software stock Version. I can provide the item number if Xda allows it. Just need to know if Its ok for root and Loki and stuff.
If it's mdl you're good to go to root it, put a custom recovery on it and flash roms with Loki.
Like jd said, you should be good. I do suggest you read ALL of the information available about it in these forums before you buy it, so you don't end up being one of the people that didn't read and now need run back here to have people fix it for you. You definitely don't want to be one of those people. There are already way too many of them. So read up, learn, plan, buy, modify, and enjoy.
I second what Scott says because it's going to want to update itself the minute you get it and if it does you'll be sorry. If it was me the first thing I'd do is put a custom recovery on it and a custom Rom to keep it from updating. Read all about that before you even turn it on. Also, look for how to keep it from updating. There are files you can freeze.
I know this is probably been asked 100 times already, but while I've found a lot of comprehensive guides about rooting the Nexus 7 I can't find the same thing for the S4. I'm going to buy one soon, and since I'm in italy it should be the GT-I9505 version.
I want to root the telephone, install a custom rom (I don't know which one, I'll have to check later) and be able to revert to the stock settings/rom so that I can avoid to void the warranty. Every guide I checked used a different software, or was specifically about the AT&T or Verizon model, or just didn't include how to do all the things aforementioned, so please, someone link me the best guides on rooting the S4 and being able to revert the telephone to stock settings (I imagine installing custom roms has specific guides for every rom, so no need for that).
Really, really thanks to anyone who answers.
Hi..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762
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Hi..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762
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Thanks but I read the FAQ already, that's partially why I felt stupid opening this thread, not even the noob-friendly FAQ answered everything.
So, I use chainfire auto-root to root the device, and then with Odin I can eventually unroot it in case I need the warranty?
Soory for the double post, but I need new answers about this topic.
I'll use CF auto root to root the device, but this trips the knox flag and nullifies warranty. How do I avoid that? I heard of a Triangle awayy app which resets the Triangle Counter or something like that and I don't think it's the same thing. How do I root while keeping my warranty?
Also, how is the app which reverts the device custom rom to the stock rom called? I always hear different names, it's a bootloader, or recovery mode or now another thing all together, I just need to eventually revert the custom rom to the original rom in order to avoid breaking the warranty if possible.
Last question, feel free to disregard this one because I can search it somewhere else: if I use a custom rom, how do I keep up to date with the official Android builds/functions? Ie, 4.5 comes out and I have Cyanogen, do I have to wait for a new Cyanogen update which brings the Android 4.5 features or am I missing the point entirely?
Again, thanks.
cloudropis said:
Soory for the double post, but I need new answers about this topic.
I'll use CF auto root to root the device, but this trips the knox flag and nullifies warranty. How do I avoid that? I heard of a Triangle awayy app which resets the Triangle Counter or something like that and I don't think it's the same thing. How do I root while keeping my warranty?
Also, how is the app which reverts the device custom rom to the stock rom called? I always hear different names, it's a bootloader, or recovery mode or now another thing all together, I just need to eventually revert the custom rom to the original rom in order to avoid breaking the warranty if possible.
Last question, feel free to disregard this one because I can search it somewhere else: if I use a custom rom, how do I keep up to date with the official Android builds/functions? Ie, 4.5 comes out and I have Cyanogen, do I have to wait for a new Cyanogen update which brings the Android 4.5 features or am I missing the point entirely?
Again, thanks.
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You don't avoid tripping the knox flag. And you can't reset it. If your phone has Knox and you want to root it, you have to trip the knox flag. Period.
Here is everything you could possibly ever want to know about Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
And yes, you have to keep updating the custom roms to get the latest features. Odds are VERY strong that the custom roms will have the updates before the carrier based ROMs OTA's come out.
Skipjacks said:
You don't avoid tripping the knox flag. And you can't reset it. If your phone has Knox and you want to root it, you have to trip the knox flag. Period.
Here is everything you could possibly ever want to know about Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
And yes, you have to keep updating the custom roms to get the latest features. Odds are VERY strong that the custom roms will have the updates before the carrier based ROMs OTA's come out.
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Got it. So a lot of people still root their phones even if it voids their warranty huh? I guess that the benefits must be greater then the cons (for one, being able to use my Dualshock 3 without cables is way enough, maybe the eventual repair centre won't notice, or maybe I'll just keep a freaking eye on my phone).
Again, I couldn't find an answer in the Rooting thread's first post, so to be safe rather than sorry I'll ask here: The device update is ready, it upgrades Android to 4.4.2 (currently 4.3, but if I got it right the KB shouldn't give me problems because I am not changing rom), does CF autoroot work anyway? Knox flag or not? I dropped the idea of using a custom rom, so I just need to know if I can still root it with CF.
cloudropis said:
Got it. So a lot of people still root their phones even if it voids their warranty huh? I guess that the benefits must be greater then the cons (for one, being able to use my Dualshock 3 without cables is way enough, maybe the eventual repair centre won't notice, or maybe I'll just keep a freaking eye on my phone).
Again, I couldn't find an answer in the Rooting thread's first post, so to be safe rather than sorry I'll ask here: The device update is ready, it upgrades Android to 4.4.2 (currently 4.3, but if I got it right the KB shouldn't give me problems because I am not changing rom), does CF autoroot work anyway? Knox flag or not? I dropped the idea of using a custom rom, so I just need to know if I can still root it with CF.
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It strongly depends on which part of the world you live.
In the EU the store you bought it from still has to fix it. Samsung in the Netherlands has stated that rooted phones etc will still have warranty.
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It strongly depends on which part of the world you live.
In the EU the store you bought it from still has to fix it. Samsung in the Netherlands has stated that rooted phones etc will still have warranty.
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I live in italy and I highly doubt warranty is intact after rooting, so heh.
In case someone missed it, this is the last question before I'm satisfied and can let this thread be closed: if I do the official update which brings the device's Android version to 4.4.2, can I still root it? I'm not saying the upgraded Android is a problem, I'm just asking if that specific update perhaps brought some security changes or something which don't allow rooting or make it harder.
Sorry but I'm bumping again I really need this.
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You can root it.
Hi folks,
I need a stock/near stock kernel (for 900P NE5 firmware) with SE set to permissive. I need it to be able to run my Appradio.
I don't care about messing with the clock speeds or voltage or anything!
I was running the Governaa but that's ND2 and seems to not be getting revisions.
So can anyone help me out? Maybe change the stock kernel over or tell me exactly how (what programs I need and what lines to change)
I can upload what ever files needed, just tell me what and where they are.
All I need is permissive
Thanks
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I need a stock/near stock kernel (for 900P NE5 firmware) with SE set to permissive. I need it to be able to run my Appradio.
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I can only assume that you didn't look at the Sprint forum at all. Or do a search, because everything you want is in clearly labeled threads near the top of the forums. It's a good habit to look first before posting. Often you can get an immediate answer and it lets you pose more informed questions.
Lots of firmware and kernels to choose from. You could simply keep your existing NE5 (if you want), root it and then add a custom kernel. You need a custom kernel to gain Permissive status.
It's unclear what you mean by seems to not be getting revisions.? That sounds like you might mean OTA updates. It's not smart to allow automatic updates if you have a rooted phone and custom kernel. An update is likely to remove your root and other grief. If you really feel that you need automatic updates, you should buy and use either Mobile Odin Pro or Super Su Pro, both of which have features that try to retain or restore root after an update. That is not a guarantee that you will keep root, but it works pretty well.
The thread below has links to the firmware and custom ROMs (if you wish) or just to the rooting guides and custom kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742994
Enjoy
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I can only assume that you didn't look at the Sprint forum at all. Or do a search, because everything you want is in clearly labeled threads near the top of the forums. It's a good habit to look first before posting. Often you can get an immediate answer and it lets you pose more informed questions.
Lots of firmware and kernels to choose from. You could simply keep your existing NE5 (if you want), root it and then add a custom kernel. You need a custom kernel to gain Permissive status.
It's unclear what you mean by seems to not be getting revisions.? That sounds like you might mean OTA updates. It's not smart to allow automatic updates if you have a rooted phone and custom kernel. An update is likely to remove your root and other grief. If you really feel that you need automatic updates, you should buy and use either Mobile Odin Pro or Super Su Pro, both of which have features that try to retain or restore root after an update. That is not a guarantee that you will keep root, but it works pretty well.
The thread below has links to the firmware and custom ROMs (if you wish) or just to the rooting guides and custom kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742994
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Actually I did/do look in the sprint section, all the time. I had just go done going through every available kernel before I posted this. So maybe I wasn't clear on what I'm after, or maybe you shouldnt be so quick to assume...
Clearly the phone is already rooted if I'm looking to change kernels.
What I meant by " seems to not be getting revisions" was in reference to the "Governaa" kernel I mentioned IN THE SAME SENTENCE. Sorry if that was not clear.
That kernel has not been revised for newer firmware so I cannot use it. Nothing I said has anything to do with OTA updates.
All of the available kernels are way more involved than I need/want.
So for anyone that would like to be helpful, and is unsure what I am looking for: I need a stock/near stock kernel with SE status set to permissive. I don't need/want any bells and whistles
Alternative: guidance on what files/code I would need to alter to get stock kernel to permissive (if that is even possible)
MODS feel free to move this to the sprint section if you feel it's better suited there
bigred97 said:
Clearly the phone is already rooted if I'm looking to change kernels.
What I meant by " seems to not be getting revisions" was in reference to the "Governaa" kernel I mentioned IN THE SAME SENTENCE. Sorry if that was not clear.
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What you want is clear like mud. You are making lots of unstated assumptions. You did not say that your phone was already rooted, nor does it follow that it would already be rooted if you were looking to change kernels. You don't understand what or how permissive works.
And you (still) didn't explain what you meant by seems to not be getting revisions. You didn't even clarify that "Governaa" was the name of a kernel in your original post. And you assume that we are familiar with this specific kernel and how that might relate to "getting revisions", rather than simply stating what the issue is.
What is clear is that helping you further would be challenging, so I'll leave you to your own devices. Nevertheless, everything that you need is in the thread that I linked to. If you still don't want to read a few posts there in your own best interests.. well that's your choice.
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So if any one that isn't a giant Dbag, can help me I'd appreciate that. If what I'm looking for is not clear I'd be very happy to try to explain better. (Just ask instead of calling me dumb and lazy)
As far as not knowing what or how, ya you're right. What I do know is I need it in order for my app radio to work with my phone and i know it's in the kernel. Other than that I know nothing nor do I care to
Hello,
I am completely new at this and would like help rooting my Samsung Note 4 Verizon: SM-N910V; Version 5.1.1
I use this phone for work also and got work email on it as well
Few questions:
1) Can anyone share a step-by-step guide to root this phone?
2) Once rooted, will I still have access to my work email, contacts and apps currently on the phone?
3) Am I able to switch back and forth from stock to root version?
4) Will I lose all my contacts, after rooted?
5) Will I be able to replace stock apps such as the stock music player (which is crap) with another better player like Poweramp?
6) In order to avoid messing up any warranties, will I be able to restore to stock? If so, can you also share step-by-step instructions on that as well?
Thanks so much for all your help.
Looking forward to your replies.
Best,
dashelter said:
Hello,
I am completely new at this and would like help rooting my Samsung Note 4 Verizon: SM-N910V; Version 5.1.1
I use this phone for work also and got work email on it as well
Few questions:
1) Can anyone share a step-by-step guide to root this phone?
2) Once rooted, will I still have access to my work email, contacts and apps currently on the phone?
3) Am I able to switch back and forth from stock to root version?
4) Will I lose all my contacts, after rooted?
5) Will I be able to replace stock apps such as the stock music player (which is crap) with another better player like Poweramp?
6) In order to avoid messing up any warranties, will I be able to restore to stock? If so, can you also share step-by-step instructions on that as well?
Thanks so much for all your help.
Looking forward to your replies.
Best,
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Let's start with number 6 first. You will trip the Knox counter, there is no way to reset it and your warranty will be swirling the toilet bowl. Your replacement insurance really doesn't care whether your phone is rooted or not, but to be sure, I'd report the phone as missing before I'd say it was defective. If your workplace is depending on the security that Knox provides, they will not be happy that your phone is rooted.
A rooted phone is exactly the same as an unrooted phone except that you have far more control over what you can do with it. Anything you can do with an unrooted phone you can do rooted plus a lot more. That includes the ability to nuke your phone. It is not something to be taken lightly. But if you can follow directions precisely and not freelance, you should do well. My suggestion is this: if you don't understand anything about the instructions, if there's a term you're not familiar with, stop. Google, search, whatever it takes until you do understand what you're doing. It's not necessary to understand programming language... though in the rooting instructions you will have to issue some ADB commands. The instructions will tell you what those commands are. If you're interested in what they do, more power to you
Once you've seen what it takes to unlock the bootloader, you will probably not want to do that again. It involves Chinese software, with all of the inherent risks that entails. But yes, you can roll the phone back to stock. The Knox counter will remain tripped.
If you've already taken the Marshmallow OTA, all bets are off. There are reports of people being able to roll back to Lollipop but they were rooted. It's not a surefire method. And no, you can't root Marshmallow.
Still want to give it a go? There are three or four guides in this forum that will tell you how to do it. Follow the directions carefully. Forgetting to take the SD card out as directed will result in a bootloop, for example.
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Let's start with number 6 first. You will trip the Knox counter, there is no way to reset it and your warranty will be swirling the toilet bowl. Your replacement insurance really doesn't care whether your phone is rooted or not, but to be sure, I'd report the phone as missing before I'd say it was defective. If your workplace is depending on the security that Knox provides, they will not be happy that your phone is rooted.
A rooted phone is exactly the same as an unrooted phone except that you have far more control over what you can do with it. Anything you can do with an unrooted phone you can do rooted plus a lot more. That includes the ability to nuke your phone. It is not something to be taken lightly. But if you can follow directions precisely and not freelance, you should do well. My suggestion is this: if you don't understand anything about the instructions, if there's a term you're not familiar with, stop. Google, search, whatever it takes until you do understand what you're doing. It's not necessary to understand programming language... though in the rooting instructions you will have to issue some ADB commands. The instructions will tell you what those commands are. If you're interested in what they do, more power to you
Once you've seen what it takes to unlock the bootloader, you will probably not want to do that again. It involves Chinese software, with all of the inherent risks that entails. But yes, you can roll the phone back to stock. The Knox counter will remain tripped.
If you've already taken the Marshmallow OTA, all bets are off. There are reports of people being able to roll back to Lollipop but they were rooted. It's not a surefire method. And no, you can't root Marshmallow.
Still want to give it a go? There are three or four guides in this forum that will tell you how to do it. Follow the directions carefully. Forgetting to take the SD card out as directed will result in a bootloop, for example.
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How do I know whether I am on Marshmallow or not?
If not on Marshmallow, I assume this phone can be rooted, right?
Can you share links for the steps-by-steps instructions to root this?
Can you answer the remaining questions in my original post?
Thanks.
dashelter said:
How do I know whether I am on Marshmallow or not?
If not on Marshmallow, I assume this phone can be rooted, right?
Can you share links for the steps-by-steps instructions to root this?
Can you answer the remaining questions in my original post?
Thanks.
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I was pretty sure that my post answered all of the questions you raised in the OP. Rooting your phone does nothing except give you higher privileges. Your contacts will remain. You can add and subtract apps at will. You can swap back and forth between root but why would you? Rooting your phone trips the Knox counter, as I said. Your warranty is no more.
If you took an update in the past week, the odds are real good that you're on Marshmallow. Go to settings>about phone and look for the Android version. 6.0.1 means you have Marshmallow. Anything else means you don't.
I'm trying not to be rude, but if you don't know this stuff, you're probably not ready to root, and I don't think your questions can be answered in a couple of posts. I'd strongly suggest spending a couple of hours with Google and seeing if rooting is right for you.
There are at least three threads on this page that cover how to unlock the bootloader. Dude, at some point, you're going to have to help yourself. That would be a great place to start.
I am on 5.1.1 Lollipop.
Should I update to 6.0.1?
dashelter said:
I am on 5.1.1 Lollipop.
Should I update to 6.0.1?
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Oh, for God's sake. I tried. I really tried. This is why I cop a snarky, cynical attitude. I'm done here.
If you've already taken the Marshmallow OTA, all bets are off. There are reports of people being able to roll back to Lollipop but they were rooted. It's not a surefire method. And no, you can't root Marshmallow
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Can anyone send me the link with instructions on how to root this Verizon Note 4 SM-N910V, version 5.1.1 Lollipop?
Thanks.
dashelter said:
Can anyone send me the link with instructions on how to root this Verizon Note 4 SM-N910V, version 5.1.1 Lollipop?
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-noobs-guide-to-perm-root-twrp-t3360883
dashelter said:
Can anyone send me the link with instructions on how to root this Verizon Note 4 SM-N910V, version 5.1.1 Lollipop?
Thanks.
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If you are not willing to do a simple search then you are in for a world of trouble. The man was being honest with you. You cannot root this phone with a simple click. If you want or need root access, then you will have to read and learn what it takes to get root access. I hope you understand. Hp
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homephysician said:
If you are not willing to do a simple search then you are in for a world of trouble. The man was being honest with you. You cannot root this phone with a simple click. If you want or need root access, then you will have to read and learn what it takes to get root access. I hope you understand. Hp
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I've been doing this stuff for six years and I won't do anything to my phone before I've had a chance to read up on it first. First, will it be worth the trouble, and second, I'm more than willing to let others screw up so I don't have to.
I don't mind trying to help people, but they've gotta be willing to try to help themselves.