I know this is probably been asked 100 times already, but while I've found a lot of comprehensive guides about rooting the Nexus 7 I can't find the same thing for the S4. I'm going to buy one soon, and since I'm in italy it should be the GT-I9505 version.
I want to root the telephone, install a custom rom (I don't know which one, I'll have to check later) and be able to revert to the stock settings/rom so that I can avoid to void the warranty. Every guide I checked used a different software, or was specifically about the AT&T or Verizon model, or just didn't include how to do all the things aforementioned, so please, someone link me the best guides on rooting the S4 and being able to revert the telephone to stock settings (I imagine installing custom roms has specific guides for every rom, so no need for that).
Really, really thanks to anyone who answers.
Hi..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762
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Hi..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419762
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Thanks but I read the FAQ already, that's partially why I felt stupid opening this thread, not even the noob-friendly FAQ answered everything.
So, I use chainfire auto-root to root the device, and then with Odin I can eventually unroot it in case I need the warranty?
Soory for the double post, but I need new answers about this topic.
I'll use CF auto root to root the device, but this trips the knox flag and nullifies warranty. How do I avoid that? I heard of a Triangle awayy app which resets the Triangle Counter or something like that and I don't think it's the same thing. How do I root while keeping my warranty?
Also, how is the app which reverts the device custom rom to the stock rom called? I always hear different names, it's a bootloader, or recovery mode or now another thing all together, I just need to eventually revert the custom rom to the original rom in order to avoid breaking the warranty if possible.
Last question, feel free to disregard this one because I can search it somewhere else: if I use a custom rom, how do I keep up to date with the official Android builds/functions? Ie, 4.5 comes out and I have Cyanogen, do I have to wait for a new Cyanogen update which brings the Android 4.5 features or am I missing the point entirely?
Again, thanks.
cloudropis said:
Soory for the double post, but I need new answers about this topic.
I'll use CF auto root to root the device, but this trips the knox flag and nullifies warranty. How do I avoid that? I heard of a Triangle awayy app which resets the Triangle Counter or something like that and I don't think it's the same thing. How do I root while keeping my warranty?
Also, how is the app which reverts the device custom rom to the stock rom called? I always hear different names, it's a bootloader, or recovery mode or now another thing all together, I just need to eventually revert the custom rom to the original rom in order to avoid breaking the warranty if possible.
Last question, feel free to disregard this one because I can search it somewhere else: if I use a custom rom, how do I keep up to date with the official Android builds/functions? Ie, 4.5 comes out and I have Cyanogen, do I have to wait for a new Cyanogen update which brings the Android 4.5 features or am I missing the point entirely?
Again, thanks.
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You don't avoid tripping the knox flag. And you can't reset it. If your phone has Knox and you want to root it, you have to trip the knox flag. Period.
Here is everything you could possibly ever want to know about Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
And yes, you have to keep updating the custom roms to get the latest features. Odds are VERY strong that the custom roms will have the updates before the carrier based ROMs OTA's come out.
Skipjacks said:
You don't avoid tripping the knox flag. And you can't reset it. If your phone has Knox and you want to root it, you have to trip the knox flag. Period.
Here is everything you could possibly ever want to know about Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470635
And yes, you have to keep updating the custom roms to get the latest features. Odds are VERY strong that the custom roms will have the updates before the carrier based ROMs OTA's come out.
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Got it. So a lot of people still root their phones even if it voids their warranty huh? I guess that the benefits must be greater then the cons (for one, being able to use my Dualshock 3 without cables is way enough, maybe the eventual repair centre won't notice, or maybe I'll just keep a freaking eye on my phone).
Again, I couldn't find an answer in the Rooting thread's first post, so to be safe rather than sorry I'll ask here: The device update is ready, it upgrades Android to 4.4.2 (currently 4.3, but if I got it right the KB shouldn't give me problems because I am not changing rom), does CF autoroot work anyway? Knox flag or not? I dropped the idea of using a custom rom, so I just need to know if I can still root it with CF.
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Got it. So a lot of people still root their phones even if it voids their warranty huh? I guess that the benefits must be greater then the cons (for one, being able to use my Dualshock 3 without cables is way enough, maybe the eventual repair centre won't notice, or maybe I'll just keep a freaking eye on my phone).
Again, I couldn't find an answer in the Rooting thread's first post, so to be safe rather than sorry I'll ask here: The device update is ready, it upgrades Android to 4.4.2 (currently 4.3, but if I got it right the KB shouldn't give me problems because I am not changing rom), does CF autoroot work anyway? Knox flag or not? I dropped the idea of using a custom rom, so I just need to know if I can still root it with CF.
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It strongly depends on which part of the world you live.
In the EU the store you bought it from still has to fix it. Samsung in the Netherlands has stated that rooted phones etc will still have warranty.
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It strongly depends on which part of the world you live.
In the EU the store you bought it from still has to fix it. Samsung in the Netherlands has stated that rooted phones etc will still have warranty.
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I live in italy and I highly doubt warranty is intact after rooting, so heh.
In case someone missed it, this is the last question before I'm satisfied and can let this thread be closed: if I do the official update which brings the device's Android version to 4.4.2, can I still root it? I'm not saying the upgraded Android is a problem, I'm just asking if that specific update perhaps brought some security changes or something which don't allow rooting or make it harder.
Sorry but I'm bumping again I really need this.
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You can root it.
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Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!
epi4gtn said:
Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!
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I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is just a thought... but... check your phone, when I got mine not too long back it still came with 4.2 on it. If yours still has 4.2 you wouldn't have to worry about knox as long as you didn't take the OTA. You could root it and rom it all you wanted.
Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Dont use vroot. Until some dev can pin point what the chinese root method actually does. And if your on 4.2.2 your ok but once ota to 4.3 then you have knox bootloader meaning you cant downgrade firmwares. It wont stop you from changing kernels and roms. Knox flag just voids your warranty with samsung but if you have insurance with sprint they can care less about it tripped. I updated to 4.3 and tripped the knox amd I havent seen no problems really. Btw please make research this has been talked about lately too much.
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epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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That only works if your on 4.2. It wont reset the knox bootloader counter.
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epi4gtn said:
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.
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Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.
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Thank you, I plan to just use CF-Auto-Root to root the phone. I'm starting to care less about the Knox bit getting tripped.
I came across this post by rawintellect that seems to have everything I'd need out of the phone, rooted/deodexed MK2 with all the bloat removed, BUT it says in the description that the Knox Bootloader is removed *EDIT: After thinking about the statement some more, I think he means the Knox bootloader is NOT included in the rom, but this raises another question, can I install it on a phone WITH the knox bootloader?), so I'm afraid of attempting to flash it because as I understand it, it's impossible to replace the knox bootloader.
Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106
This individual seems to have gotten everything working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106&postcount=88
Do you know if anyone is able to flash Philz through Odin successfully on the MJA/knox bootloader?
I took mine back after I took the OTA. I was honest about why I was returning it, that the firmware introduces restrictions and annoying features (I cited the multiple WiFi security warnings in particular) I was not willing to accept, and the independent store I was dealing with gave me an exchange to a new phone with 4.2. I first asked if they could downgrade the phone to 4.2, including the bootloader, they researched that option, finding it impossible.
If they had not given me the exchange, I would have picked a different color and done it that way.
Try this Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572000
MrTasselhof
I just had to replace my S4 because I broke the screen on my old one. Unfortunately, the new one was shipped to me with NAE firmware and boot loader already installed. This means I'm already on KNOX from the first second of turning it on.
I have seen plenty of guides on how to update to NAE, and get root, etc. by not allowing KNOX to installed. However, I haven't really seen anything about what can be done if it's already installed. There's things scattered all over the net that suggest there might be ways around this, but nothing on the forums here that I have been able to find yet.
I'm not looking to flash any crazy roms or anything right now, I really just want root, but it seems like even that might be impossible now. Could I use something like "DrKetan Multitool" to "DeKNOX" my device and then root it? Does this tool even work on the S4, he claims it does but I've not seen it mentioned on the actual S4 forums. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Note, I am looking for a method that doesn't trip the flash counter; or at least allows a reset afterwards. I'd rather not void the warranty on a brand new device if possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53166571
Try this...it is a custom ROM but really close to stock
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I was already planning on installing UnknownForce Stock Rooted NAE Rom, if it's possible. However, you didn't really answer my question. Is there a method to bypass/kill the KNOX boot loader at this point or not? If not, then I might as well just stop now. I'm not prepared to void the warranty at this point.
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I was already planning on installing UnknownForce Stock Rooted NAE Rom, if it's possible. However, you didn't really answer my question. Is there a method to bypass/kill the KNOX boot loader at this point or not? If not, then I might as well just stop now. I'm not prepared to void the warranty at this point.
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No. Once you have Knox, you have it.
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Checked old threads, and even made a thread a couple months ago about this question, but it goes a bit further.
I've finally rooted using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/general/root-nb4-knox-0x0-t2802185
I didn't trip knox, that's great right?! Well, I went further, installed xposed, then gravity box and started playing around with my newly rooted device.
I then installed supersu (I haven't really needed it but I wanted to test something out from another thread, here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-safe-knox/366118-solution-how-permanently-remove-knox.html)
Well I've removed Knox!
Not quite: because knox is located in the bootloader, it's a little more complicated to remove. My question (finally) is that even though I've disabled knox as a pesky security feature, if I were to finally enable a custom recovery, or flash to a different rom (I wanna go aosp, and go to lolipop) would I have issues with knox again, and trip the counter? I still want to upgrade my phone using JUMP but I don't want to have problems with T-Mobile.
Thanks guys!
devilsmarch said:
Checked old threads, and even made a thread a couple months ago about this question, but it goes a bit further.
I've finally rooted using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-tmobile/general/root-nb4-knox-0x0-t2802185
I didn't trip knox, that's great right?! Well, I went further, installed xposed, then gravity box and started playing around with my newly rooted device.
I then installed supersu (I haven't really needed it but I wanted to test something out from another thread, here: http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-safe-knox/366118-solution-how-permanently-remove-knox.html)
Well I've removed Knox!
Not quite: because knox is located in the bootloader, it's a little more complicated to remove. My question (finally) is that even though I've disabled knox as a pesky security feature, if I were to finally enable a custom recovery, or flash to a different rom (I wanna go aosp, and go to lolipop) would I have issues with knox again, and trip the counter? I still want to upgrade my phone using JUMP but I don't want to have problems with T-Mobile.
Thanks guys!
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As soon as you flash custom recovery knox will be tripped
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Kinda what I thought would happen unless you changed the bootloader.
You can't change it unless it has the same certificate from Samsung right? Even if you copied it over to a different bootloader?
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Kinda what I thought would happen unless you changed the bootloader.
You can't change it unless it has the same certificate from Samsung right? Even if you copied it over to a different bootloader?
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I know once you have the latest bootloader you can't go back and with the forthcoming android L you will need the latest bootloader so I would just update to the latest version and root and flash away aosp or whatever I know it invalidates your warranty but for me it's worth the risk however the cm12 alpha is full of bugs so I would wait for a beta at least to avoid disappointment
Hi guys, after overthinking it *way* too much I decided to order a new S7E through my provider (T-mobile) in Holland.
I was afraid to get one because i'm clumsy as hell and drop my phones hundreds of time. Till now i've always been extremely lucky (S1, S3, G3) but the S7 is very shatter prone to say the least...
After reading countless threads and videos about screenprotectors (liquid, TG, plastic, cases) I still don't know what to choose
Anyway, I'm getting it tomorrow and I read that knox get tripped as soon as you root.
Does anyone in Holland have experience with warranty being rejected because knox was tripped?
I think I really want to root (Titanium backup, xposed mods, several apps that work better with root) but maybe I'll have to hold off until I know for sure that the hardware is working fine?
So IF I decide to go for it and root with CF-Root, is it true that when using Flashfire you basically don't need TWRP anymore as you can flash zipfiles and create/restore backups with it?
And when you root, do you immediately lose automatic OTA? Or do you lose that when flashing a customized rom?
Thanks for any tips
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
- no install new system update
- odin flash CF auto root - http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/sm-g935-exynos-cf-auto-root-t3337354
- odin flash TRWP
after
- TRWP install Phoenix ROM
- TRWP install Protheus Kernel
- enjoy your Life and great phone
Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
dayl1ght said:
if you install customized rom so need TRWP !
get new s7 phone
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I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
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Dont go for the glass protector try to get a solution based screen protector And if you care for warranty dont root, until rooting without tripping knox possible .
Flashing custom rom will loose the ability to OTA. But, most custom roms support their own OTA
I am not on the only root thing, it is always better to have a custom recovery when you are in to modding.
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I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
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in Europe root phones , maybe no warranty.
only UK have warranty with Root Phone
Try not to drop it.
latino147 said:
I will certainly look into optimized stock roms as soon as I have rooted, the question still is, to root or not to root
I'm curious to know how warranty reparations in Holland end up when you've rooted your device.
I've normally not been really worried about warranty, but i've read many warnings from people here that your screen might go bad after a month or two, so I guess I want knox to be untripped :|
And you're right, when using custom roms it might be safer to have TWRP to come to the rescue when needed.
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Actually for Samsung it doesn't matter , get Smart Switch> Download mode > brand new OS > (Except) Knox tripped . But, Smart Switch take ages to download .. to me no matter how fast my connection is. you know OEM server's are always slow
Hi all.
I am really intrigued by some roms i see here especially Kingrom. I have never rooted a phone or anything past that but i am pretty tech savvy and have done some crazy stuff like downgrading and installing custom bootroms and OS's on nintendo 3ds which was a harrowing multi hour experience.
Anyway, before i root and install a custom recovery like TWRP, what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey? Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new? Does rooting and custom romming trip knox? Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey?
You can brick your Device
Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new?
yes, make a Full Backup
Does rooting and custom romming trip knox?
With Root trip KNOX
Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
No, dont need it
if you use Kingrom
prepare use Phoenix Rom
dayl1ght said:
what are the dangers and downsides of starting this journey?
You can brick your Device
Is it possible to un-root and go back to fully factory like-new?
yes, make a Full Backup
Does rooting and custom romming trip knox?
With Root trip KNOX
Can i still get OTA updates from samsung?
No, dont need it
if you use Kingrom
prepare use Phoenix Rom
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How do i make a backup before i start root?
What is the downside of tripping knox? I dont have carrier, and no US warranty because of international phone, i have insurance from B&H but they dont check knox i think
Once Knox is tripped you will never ever be able to use Samsung Pay and find it difficult, if not impossible, to use Android Pay.
liquidguru said:
Once Knox is tripped you will never ever be able to use Samsung Pay and find it difficult, if not impossible, to use Android Pay.
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never use and never will use those, so i guess ill go with root!
In the S7 you can not brick brick your phone you can always boot in recovery and install everything, the KNOX counter once it gets reset nothing can be done. Rooting opens up the possibilities on the phone and its insane
utkarsh_86 said:
In the S7 you can not brick brick your phone you can always boot in recovery and install everything, the KNOX counter once it gets reset nothing can be done. Rooting opens up the possibilities on the phone and its insane
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what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
kofman13 said:
what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
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KNOX is more towards enterprise, if you dont have warranty then what are you waiting for go ahead Root it, its not difficult just look at the you tube videos and hear what they explain carefully also have a look here
forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/recovery-official-twrp-hero2lte-3-0-0-0-t3334084
kofman13 said:
what is benefit of keeping knox? i dont have samsung warranty and i never will use samsung/android pay? does it protect against viruses or something?
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If you plan on selling your phone in the future, it's price maybe be affected, as the new owner will not be able to use the pay services.
Ultimately it's your choice. This is the first phone I haven't rooted. Every day I think I might, but I find it hard to actually go through with it. It works completely well without rooting. The main reason I used to root was to change the DPI, but you can do that without rooting on this phone.
liquidguru said:
If you plan on selling your phone in the future, it's price maybe be affected, as the new owner will not be able to use the pay services.
Ultimately it's your choice. This is the first phone I haven't rooted. Every day I think I might, but I find it hard to actually go through with it. It works completely well without rooting. The main reason I used to root was to change the DPI, but you can do that without rooting on this phone.
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i was mainly interested in kingrom because i hear it boosts performance and lets you block ads with mega ad blocker... is it not worth it?
It really is up to you. Rooting and tinkering is a lot of fun, which is why XDA exists. Following the rooting and flashing guides you shouldn't have any problems with your device. Custom ROMs and Xposed modules can add a lot of additional features and customization to your phone. This time, for this phone, I just feel it's not needed, but that's just me.
I use Adguard to block ads. It works really well on non-rooted phones.
I think I'd get a Nexus device now, if I wanted to start rooting and flashing ROMs. A lot of the real innovation is done with CM-based ROMs, which are extremely unlikely on new Sammy Exynos devices.