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I think somebody should post all the roms and new updates on one thread that way it would make it easier for noobs to get the things they need and that would prevent all these how to root topics
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Kingali1997 said:
I think somebody should post all the roms and new updates on one thread that way it would make it easier for noobs to get the things they need and that would prevent all these how to root topics
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Then take some initiative and put it together.
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Then take some initiative and put it together.
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This post is so much WIN. I agree 100%.

Something like nitsuj17's theme list, which i might add, is updated as soon as a new theme comes along.

I will try my best I just would lije help please
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If you start the thread people will comment on what you put in giving you all of the help you need. They just wont do it for you.
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Not to be a ****...but in my humble opinion, I like things the way they are. Gives noobs initiative to research first and to clarify issues. Throwing a ****load of roms (that are required to change their title already when updated) in one thread is gonna lead to alot of headaches unless you break down specifically the requirements of each one. I can see it now..."oh wow, I just bought this and look at all these roms. Ima load superclean 2.9 since it's the newest on my Ea28 fascinate!". **** noobs still come in here to ask how to fix there phones after flashing another phones rom...everyday. There should be a quiz that pops up asking you a series of questions about what you're about to do. Like a fail noob proof capcha. If you fail...a note pops up and says "read some more dumbass!"

Odining builds character.
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jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but in my humble opinion, I like things the way they are. Gives noobs initiative to research first and to clarify issues. Throwing a ****load of roms (that are required to change their title already when updated) in one thread is gonna lead to alot of headaches unless you break down specifically the requirements of each one. I can see it now..."oh wow, I just bought this and look at all these roms. Ima load superclean 2.9 since it's the newest on my Ea28 fascinate!". **** noobs still come in here to ask how to fix there phones after flashing another phones rom...everyday. There should be a quiz that pops up asking you a series of questions about what you're about to do. Like a fail noob proof capcha. If you fail...a note pops up and says "read some more dumbass!"
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lmao wow by far one of the best ideas I have seen here in the forums.

not that i don't entirely agree with some of the sentiments of the more senior members, but i was a complete noob w/ my 1st smartphone not too long ago so I can see how someone coming into this now after all of the DL09/EB01/EB16 releases can be overwhelmed...
so here's a link to a thread on android central with exactly what you are looking for
http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...ks-roms-themes-kernels-updated-3-17-11-a.html
... a LOT friendlier with a handful of senior members that seem to be on always to walk noobs through
you won't get as many comments that, although may be true and one should take note of, doesn't contribute at all to what you asked.
Again, everyone is entitled to their opinions on a forum, so I'm not making any attacks toward anyone, but I feel like you know when your comment doesn't help the OP and only helps you feel better about walking into a post that annoys you... and maybe consider that there are people of all different ages and lives that may not allow for hours upon hours of catch up reading

jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but in my humble opinion, I like things the way they are. Gives noobs initiative to research first and to clarify issues. Throwing a ****load of roms (that are required to change their title already when updated) in one thread is gonna lead to alot of headaches unless you break down specifically the requirements of each one. I can see it now..."oh wow, I just bought this and look at all these roms. Ima load superclean 2.9 since it's the newest on my Ea28 fascinate!". **** noobs still come in here to ask how to fix there phones after flashing another phones rom...everyday. There should be a quiz that pops up asking you a series of questions about what you're about to do. Like a fail noob proof capcha. If you fail...a note pops up and says "read some more dumbass!"
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this is great!!!!

jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but in my humble opinion, I like things the way they are. Gives noobs initiative to research first and to clarify issues. Throwing a ****load of roms (that are required to change their title already when updated) in one thread is gonna lead to alot of headaches unless you break down specifically the requirements of each one. I can see it now..."oh wow, I just bought this and look at all these roms. Ima load superclean 2.9 since it's the newest on my Ea28 fascinate!". **** noobs still come in here to ask how to fix there phones after flashing another phones rom...everyday. There should be a quiz that pops up asking you a series of questions about what you're about to do. Like a fail noob proof capcha. If you fail...a note pops up and says "read some more dumbass!"
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hahaha lmfao read some more dumbass. That what be constructive yet funny as hell
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While I agree that if such a form existed... at the end of the day it most really be useless.
People will still have the same questions about this and that rom, and term, and version of phone.. etc... and if you combine ALL those answers into one form, well I would maybe make it too the third or fourth page before I give up and move on. Like a lot of forums now, some are a thousand pages.
I'm sure many people will agree the next scenario, which I find myself in a fair bit. You just soft soft bricked your phone, or something new is released... 20 min later you're sitting down with 5 or 6 browser windows open, each one has 20 tabs, and you have 30 new bookmarks made just case there something you might need later from one those pages.
lol... i tell you guys, its awful messy sometimes.. Especially when a friend gives me a phone he bricked and I've never used the phone before.
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P.S. Every expert was once a beginner... and knowledge is power.

I think what you want is already done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312

Kingali1997 said:
hahaha lmfao read some more dumbass. That what be constructive yet funny as hell
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You really bumped your own 5 month long dead thread to incoherently flame somebody? God xda sucks.
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jt1134 said:
You really bumped your own 5 month long dead thread to incoherently flame somebody? God xda sucks.
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haha, I don't think he was even flaming him, just giving him props... or something...
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jt1134 said:
You really bumped your own 5 month long dead thread to incoherently flame somebody? God xda sucks.
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He has been bumping dead threads for the past couple days and judging by his name "1997" that is prob the year he was born.....need i say more.

Wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to unlock OEM for the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G model G988U1 (z3q) and flash a custom ROM to it. I'm aware that certain models don't allow this and I'm hesitant to test it out from the posts that I've seen describing how to do it. I saw the same thing for my model of the Note 9 and soon after found out that it's not possible for my model of it. If anyone can confirm whether or not I can and provide a link to a thread that includes the sources to what I need or links directly to the things I need it'd be much appreciated.

What's so special about cm7?

Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.

You just wanted to know something that is well documented, so you start a new thread to ask, instead of reading? If you're too lazy to read the CM website and the existing Epic CM thread (mostly the website, though, for the feature list and such), then we're too lazy to hold your hand.
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jnadke said:
It's stock AOSP, with some modifications.
Nothing special really, but it's the only way we'll ever see Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Thanks dude. I wanted to get input on why it's special to certain people. Thanks man.
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blackdragon79 said:
Just want to know what's the huge buzz about when it comes to cm7 and why its taking so long to finish. Right now I'm acs ics ei22 v3.5 rom and its great so far. But for some reason a lot of people are holding off and waiting for cm7. Just like to know what the big deal is. Other developers are dropping roms left and right and people are still waiting on cm7 I guess it must be something amazing.
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First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.

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Um you kind of DID ask for his input by asking a question on a public forum...
why don't you grow up??

Jackalo said:
First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Great response. As far as that one guy I had to go in on I'm going say this if you agree with a post don't troll on it. Now back to you I just really got into rooting and trying roms thanks to xda I may never go back to a stock rom again. My current rom is pretty damn good I may say. I'm looking for a pernament rom to use until I get another phone. So when cm7 is done I may have to give that a test drive
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Jackalo said:
First, I apologize for other, more cynical, people lurking in these forums. I know that we grow tired of questions like these, but we were all newbies once and a lot of people just don't understand the concept of patience.
As someone who recently started using CM7 (past two months) I can say that, for me at least, I use it for the speed and simple nature of it. It isn't packed full of things that I don't need right out of the gate, which allows me to customize it as I see fit. First thing I did was install most of the GO applications and all the widgets/apps/games that I've paid for over the past year. On other firmwares I would be down to less than 40MB of space, but with CM7, I still have 299MB left without using the SD card at all for apps.
I'm sure I'll run EI22 for a little while once a stock tar is out, but CM7 has really proven itself to me.
As far as why CM7 is taking so long, the developers have lives of their own. They make no promises and release firmware of their own good will. I think that we're very lucky to have that. The internet and ever quicker releases of things has made us all impatient, what seems like ADHD. We want the next best thing, and we want it now. I suppose that I'm in that boat now too, unfortunately, but I strive not to bug developers who release software for free.
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Just felt like I needed to say that there's no need to be rude and feed the trolls. Ignoring them (and not sinking to a low level) really is the best way.
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Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Styles420 is not a troll.
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austin420 said:
Styles420 is not a troll.
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ac16313 said:
Its forum rules... he was not trolling are you kidding?
Also IB4L
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Thanks for the support, guys - the problem with issues like this is that, in order to be able to follow the rules, one must be able to read them, and if he could do that then he could have read the answer to this same question without re posting it
And if you read his response, it kinda sounds like his frustration is sexual in nature...
blackdragon79 said:
Yes he is was trolling. When you go on threads and post comments that not of any help to subject it's a form of trolling. When people like to say things like use the search button instead of just helping the thread guess what that's also trolling..
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And when people start new threads for old questions that have already been asked and answered?
Don't jump down my throat because you feel foolish for making an ass of yourself. You have two other XDA veterans telling you that the mistake was yours, and you start hurling poorly formed insults... way to prove their point by example
As for the part about saying to search instead of helping the thread... if you search, that is helping the thread. If we just answer the same question each time, it only further encourages people not to search, which hurts the thread. Don't accuse me of not helping until you're willing to do your part to help as well - we call that being a hypocritic
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I've posted a similar thread on this topic a few months ago. I honestly just had no idea what was so special/unique with the Cyanogen project versus AOSP. I even did the research before asking. The information I found didn't really give me an idea of how different the two really are.
I did think styles420 was a bit out of line in his/her reply; however, your response (OP) was completely uncalled for. The OP definitely broke XDA rules of conduct in the reply.
To the OP:
CM About page
There are still some items not working 100%, and therefore it's not production ready yet. It will get there in time. Asking for ETA's of releases is usually frowned upon.
To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.

nikon120 said:
To styles420:
Member rules of conduct for XDA
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
You could have simply ignored this post or pointed the OP in the proper direction for information.
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I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
EDIT: I got curious, so I checked - he started two new threads for old questions, one about Siri (search would have brought up Zanderman's Iris thread), and one about a gmail problem that I will admit was harder to find an answer to.
He also asked for an ETA in the EH17 based ACS ICS thread...
OP, just do a little more digging before starting new threads - you're putting your username on the front page of threads, drawing attention both good and bad. It's nothing personal, but if we make exceptions for you, we have to throw the rules out the window to make exceptions for everyone who breaks them.
And calm down with the foul language and childish insults - you'll get more help if you're at least polite when you make a newb mistake
So, truce?
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Very well said, Nikon, you took what I wanted to say and packaged it up neatly and succinctly!
Yes, the OP should have done a bit more research on his own (he's obviously been on XDA a while and should know that's the norm), but I felt that Styles didn't help the situation at all--too often people around here get an elitist attitude toward ignorant folks. As I understand it, XDA is here to expand everyone's knowledge of our phones and therefore people should not explicitly state "Go figure it out." If you don't want to help them / hold their hand, fine, just don't post at all. Styles420, obviously you get tired of people asking redundant questions that they could have found the answer to--I get that. But I get tired of seeing all the smartass, elitist answers that do just as much to clutter up XDA as the ignorant posts.
To the OP: your response was way overboard. It's a free country, I can't tell you not to feel that way, nor can I tell you not to post such things. But I can tell you this: that type of offensive behavior on XDA is a surefire way to have sanctions brought against you. The mods around here don't put up with that sort of thing. I understand your frustration, but XDA is not the place to vent in such a childish, immature way.
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This devolved rather quickly.
But to answer the op, CM7 is a highly customizable, low battery consumption version of the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) version of Android.
You have less "for-show" frills, such as Touchwiz and purely aesthetic additions on your stock rom. Battery life is much better and over all experience seems more upbeat from users.
And yes, that guy was trolling, but your response was highly inappropriate OP. Keep that to you and your friends, as in the public, it just questions your maturity.
Good luck and wishes in your future Android adventures.

styles420 said:
I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Are you a moderator? No? Well leave the forum policing to those qualified, as your posts seem to show your ineptitude for such a task.
Have a nice day.

styles420 said:
I'll admit, I could have been more helpful, but my defense is that it would only encourage him to keep breaking the primary rule to at least try to find the answers before posting. And I may be mistaken, but I think I've seen this guy do this before, so I was under the impression that he'd already used his newb card on this forum and has had the rules pointed out - if we get unlimited second chances, why bother to follow the rules in the first place?
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Fair enough Styles, I fully understand that sentiment! I agree that people should not be coddled, especially if they should know better--and with a post count of 250+, blackdragon79 obviously has been around the block at XDA. Maybe the middle ground between holding his hand and blowing him off is the best answer, such as linking to the information to help himself like Nikon did. You don't have to waste much effort, and it encourages him to "figure it out for himself," but at least gives him a push in the right direction.
Oh, and I realize I'm getting on my high horse with these two posts, so feel free to tell me to F*** off, LOL! I just feel compelled to act as a social mediator on here sometimes.

DONT step on the DEV´s FEET!!!

There is a couple of threads started by the main Devs,that have been closed lately.
All b´coz ignorant and stupid ppl keep asking the same quiestions over again.Since they are superiour at devoloping roms,but have a hard time getting same questions all the time shuffeld upon them,time over time,the treads gets closed all the time to us uber users sad disapointment.If i had the power i would shoot all the wrong posters in the head,but i dont have the the power to do that.This is not a democracy,soo think before u post any stupid question that might offend the allmighty devs,or the treads might get closed.Remember,You are in the hands of the Devs,they have ALL the might to shut u down,We are ALL in the hands of the allmighty DEVS.
So ask ur self,can u live without the roms,can your life continue with an originar rom from lets say Samsung?Or are u here bcoz of ur curiosity?Are u here bcoz of the fun of trying lotz of diffrent roms?OR as me,just to try out something else?
I for sure can live with out the roms that codeworkz and he´s friends develop.Would my life be porer with out their roms?Nah dont think so,if there only were TW roms i would still be fine,but the option to choose is always better.Do i feel the need to kiss some devs ass to get googles latest,with all the bugs and annoying faults?Sure not.Im 40 years old,ive learned to hold my breath,theres no greener grass on the other side.My phone will still function as intended even without major Devs roms.
So,do i dont appriciate the work they do for free?Hell yes i do!For free?Well,some of us guys do donate,so for free isnt true.
Do i think Devs should be treated like gods?Nope,i think they should live by the same rules as all of us do,threat others with respect.!

+1. Countdown till this thread gets transformed into a thread for ICS, CM9, or how much they hate TouchWiz.

Paragraphs?
You are making a valid point btw.
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Paragraphs?
You are making a valid point btw.
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I was going to say spaces after punctuation, but your way works.

Wagtwo and Ricky are prime examples of what this post is all about.
I to would shoot them if I could.
+1
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Wagtwo and Ricky are prime examples of what this post is all about.
I to would shoot them if I could.
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For noob questions entire development is stopped by codeworkx... As we all are noobs is this our faults... Every body in this world are not doctors, engineers or developers. Sorry noob people this is our fault...
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Plz close the tread
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mwazeer1 said:
For noob questions entire development is stopped by codeworkx... As we all are noobs is this our faults... Every body in this world are not doctors, engineers or developers. Sorry noob people this is our fault...
Ps. Every membership now should be invite only. And yes thread should be closed as it will attract nothing but people disagreeing with the OP. But respect to him for his opinion though
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Link in my signature should be spreaded in every new members inbox when they register and also the video by xda to stop them doing what is already happening on xda. Check my sig for more info in what i mean. Ps. Every membership now should be invite only. And yes thread should be closed as it will attract nothing but people disagreeing with the OP. But respect to him for his opinion though
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+1 really fund with development on xda, but when Devs get to much
bs or noobish questions on their thread they just close it, instead of warning the person(s)
that are cluthering their thread and just in case off repeating theme selves just expell them
from xda for a period or FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! this is what happens on most forums so why not here.
Imho this is still a forum about open source so why should you be invited only to get a
membership should we all be mail aswell to join?
Maybe cleaning up some (less used) sticky threads and getting more info, about using Q&A and the use off searching threads before asking, to new users would be something to consider ( maybe this can be done by first 20 posts opening a warning screen, that pops up at your screen, when you whant to post something that has to be checked within a scrollable popup screen) yes i know this needs some work by the mods but then youre probally done with noob questions and bs.
Just my thougts

DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
+1 really fund with development on xda, but when Devs get to much
bs or noobish questions on their thread they just close it, instead of warning the person(s) that are cluthering their thread and just in case off repeating theme selves just expell them from xda for a period or FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is what happens on most forums so why not here.
Maybe cleaning up some (less used) sticky threads and getting more info, about using Q&A and the use off searching threads before asking, to new users would be something to consider ( maybe this can be done by first 20 posts opening a warning screen, that pops up at your screen, when you whant to post something that has to be checked within a scrollable popup screen) yes i know this needs some work by the mods but then youre probally done with noob questions and bs.
Just my thougts
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No mate. Simple solution. Invite only to become a member. And as regarding the cm9 thread well the title said it all UNSTABLE not ready for daily use. What more than that do people need for a better explanation
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You can tell people to hold their breath, cause you let one go, guess what......?
they will always tell you, you stink up the place
people are just to curious to be number 1 with their phone and firmware to read any warning what so ever about a rom thats still under heavy development
and not fully functional, we just like to wine about the problems that occur
so invite or not i think the problem stays the same

Please NO not another thread like this! Pointless...

DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
You can tell people to hold their breath, cause you let one go, guess what......?
they will always tell you, you stink up the place
people are just to curious to be number 1 with their phone and firmware to read any warning what so ever about a rom thats still under heavy development
and not fully functional, we just like to wine about the problems that occur
so invite or not i think the problem stays the same
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You have a point. I mean we do not live in a perfect world after all. But my point is if xda was reverted to invite only and made the only way to be able to get the invite is by actually learning to contribute to the community then i think maybe that is the only way forward.
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OMG you fu***** children.
it's the remaining devs who keep this forum alive!
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Enough already with this high-school melodramatic bull****. Let the developers develop however the hell they want to develop, and shut the **** up about it.

soulicro said:
Enough already with this high-school melodramatic bull****. Let the developers develop however the hell they want to develop, and shut the **** up about it.
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Calm down buddy no need to get yourself angry about this.

This is the second thread started by the same user in as many days expressing the same incoherent, poorly articulated babble.
Yesterday's rant about XDA being a dictatorship didn't last long before being locked and I can only hope that this worthless drivel is shut down every bit as quickly.
This outraged sense of entitlement crap is part of the problem and most certainly not the solution. It's not Devs that are making it hard work on XDA, it's people like you.

lol i opened a thread as well the other day.. makes that 3....but invite only would be good...
i admit i know only a little bit about Android and mobile phones, however as i work in a technical environment i understand the risks and what goes into developing.
again as i mentioned in my other thread.. XDA IS suffering as a result and it's name is being dragged through the mud across the net on other blogs and Developer forums. It's embarrassing and frankly I dont blame the Devs for leaving...

I feel like this is all targeted to CM9/ICS development, so let me answer this.
Hey people, calm down. We don't feel like gods at all, I can understand why you're mad, but hey, it's community's fault !
We spend hours and hours trying to bring AOSP experience to this device (and some others), and it's hard given the number of things Samsung doesn't do using Android standards. It's taking a lot of our free time, and gives us a lot of headaches.
That's one fact.
Now, you guys begged us to get an alpha, we gave it to you. What did we get in return ? The right to answers 1000000000 times the SAME questions. We made a Wiki, an FAQ, people STILL asks for dumb questions. They can't use google, they can't search a topic, they can't read, and they beg us to get an answer to their dumb questions. It's okay the first, second, third time... But when it's ALWAYS ALL TIME TIME the SAME, it gets boring, we get mad and arrogant, because we're doing all this stuff for YOU, and you can't even use the Thanks button properly. No, you come here and complain "Why **** doesn't work !!??", and you keep asking at EACH RELEASE if the SAME thing works or not, because you can't read the ChangeLog, or Google for specific terms that are inside it (like the Vendor libraries thing).
When you'll respect us, by doing a bit of work on your side, we'll get nicer. Codeworkx said it's your fault, and he's right.

Atrix forum going out of control

Take a look at post #20. Is a resumed part of what I meant from the start. Sorry for causing so much troubles.

Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
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p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Swiftks said:
Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
(Forum Moderator)
p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Swiftks how do you get to become a moderator?
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One does not ask, one is chosen. (j/k)
You join the XDA IRC and say "ops plz" (repeatedly so they notice it quickly). (j/k, and also I don't even know if there is an IRC).
In any case I do believe the account has to be a certain age and you have to have a certain number of posts (or at least those should be basic criteria).
It's probably in a FAQ somewhere on the site (or if not, should be).

TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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Excuse me... you're "warning" us? I wasn't aware that you were made a moderator. Oh, wait, you weren't.
If you find problems, use the reporting system. But don't come waltzing in here and issuing threats and edicts when you don't have the authority to back them up. If you're not a moderator, you're a regular member just like the rest of us, which means you don't have the authority to tell us what to do. You aren't in charge here, and I'll thank you to remember that.

Lol this kid.
Someone needs to lock this ****.
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TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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You've obviously weren't around here when the Atrix Forums first opened, or perhaps you've forgotten what it was like around here.
Basically it was a lot of ex-iPhone d-bags that got the Atrix as their first Android phone, and had little respect for XDA. IMHO The Atrix forums has been "pleasant" lately compared to what it used to be when it first opened...
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Not I wasn't and I'm neither a mod

Swiftks said:
Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
(Forum Moderator)
p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Yeah our sgs3 forum is a bit much!
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TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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Dude, posting stuff like that is a good way to loose all friends here - nobody likes a self appointed hall monitor. Let the mods do their job, I don't think the policy is to remove every post that might offend someone, it's the tubes; you need to grow a thick skin.
Don't worry, the angst lake will drain once the ICS situation resolves itself - one way or the other. Although, prepare for some awesome gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands if Moto pulls the same stunt they did with the Dext and cancels the update at the last moment.

Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...

consolation said:
Dude, posting stuff like that is a good way to loose all friends here - nobody likes a self appointed hall monitor. Let the mods do their job, I don't think the policy is to remove every post that might offend someone, it's the tubes; you need to grow a thick skin.
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He needs to read this too: http://www.fenixdev.net (warning, NSFW language)
DannyBiker said:
Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...
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So what devices have a GOOD active community then? I'll sell mine and go get one of those.
Honestly I don't think this community is all that bad. It's like any other community really, in that you have your good users and bad users.
What would really be neat is to take the regional and economical demographics of all the smartphones and compare them. Then you might have something.
Of course people's standards of good and bad are different as well, so you're always going to have someone complaining. Trust me on this, I'm a goth/industrial DJ and getting everyone in this subculture at the club to be happy is like spitting into an oncoming wind!

I don't say it's hell on earth either...it's just that there is a level of animosity that I never encountered before. Why is that, I don't know...

DannyBiker said:
Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...
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Then I guess you haven't seen the HTC Hero forum. There most of the fighting is between devs, and the majority of bans, blocks etc. is toward the devs, that dont play together nice...
As for this community, I admit that there are some that dont stop complaining, but as already said, in the beginning it was worst.
The best thing here is that most of the complaining is to Motorola and stinking nVidia (Burn bi$#h burn!!! ), whereas practically all the Atrix forum dwellers pay there respect to the devoted devs.
I think that most of the complains will be gone once Moto will release the ICS update. If they will not release it this community will just die slowly...
:cyclops:

IBTL.
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Scary Guy said:
So what devices have a GOOD active community then? I'll sell mine and go get one of those.
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Toshiba Folio, Kindle Fire sub-forum are good and active in my opinion. The Acer Iconia A100 is not active, however people there treat each other especially good. I can say more than 99% of the users there are good and humble, respectful of each other.

Get an HD2, it's more religion than gadgetry.
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xitrumch said:
Toshiba Folio, Kindle Fire sub-forum are good and active in my opinion. The Acer Iconia A100 is not active, however people there treat each other especially good. I can say more than 99% of the users there are good and humble, respectful of each other.
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Same thing with the HTC Aria. Its an old phone now, but the people there NEVER demmanded anything and were so grateful for what ever they got (Rom-wise).
This forum...not so much....
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones

Dont' take all I said personal, it was most directly to Mods. I don't know if you want to ban me or do whatever you want with my account Mods but I'm going to tell you the truth...
I feel like you're not doing your Jobs... that's my 2 cents...
If you want I can change the main thread because is causing so many confusion and other things but that's all I had to say in others words.

Sick of several things on XDA

Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Wisdom strong in this post is. Franco is a really good developer and I'm sad he left Note. He used to develop for my old Huawei before he left for GNex and his kernel rocked. :thumbup:
But... One shouldn't take the regular forum trolls too seriously. Just leave them crying in their own **** and move own. There is also the report function here.
I agree with you though that there is way too much idiots in the development forums. Just look at the new JB PA 1.1 thread: couple of first pages just full of posts "how do I install this?" "does this brick my phone!?" etc. So annoying to find the actual bug reports or feedbacks through all the ****. This is because people are way too lazy to actually study anything these days. Everything has to brought to them ready and chewed.
Edit: and there is also this one hero that already bricked his note with JB PA because he didn't care to study stuff before flashing. :banghead:
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.

pboesboes said:
Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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We can report.. But that won't stop the developer getting pissed and stopping development..
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...

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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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Tbh there should be a read count for how many threads someone has read. :beer: That would just be a little hard to measure.
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I certainly agree on you with this one. But like in every other forum and the whole internet, you can't really prevent noobs and trolls. Trolls gotta troll man. Kinda hard to filter them out as it will require the mods to check every single day on every single thread with thousands of post on it and obviously that will take full time. Most of us specially moderators do this for a hobby.
Let's just do our part to make the community a better place. That is reporting trolls. Like the other guy said on the 2nd post, let's just click on that little report button and the mods will take care of the rest or you can just ignore the regular forum troll and move on like most of us do. An old internet saying "Don't feed the trolls" ignore them and the average forum troll will just hunt for the next trollable thread and will eventually get tired, while the persistent ones, well let's just keep on clicking the report button and wait for the banhammer to land
The post requirement or the tenureship in the forum is a fantastic idea though. Maybe even the thanks meter/level, like you could post even if you're not 3 months old or don't have 350 posts but if you do have a certain thanks level/meter you could post and access the restricted area of the forums. No one would press the thanks button if you didn't post something useful right?

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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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msedek said:
Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Although you have a point here i really don't like the idea. Ok we need to restrict the troll posts but..... once you were a noob too !!!! What we see now is that this site has grown to numbers never seen before. In the early days there were only a handfull users, a few devices and not much to do. Nowadays if you have a problem EVERYBODY refers to this forum from other places. So basicly we have a flood of new, unexperienced, people that just have one big problem: THEY DON'T READ!!!! I've been a member for a long time now, learned a lot just by reading and only post when i think it's usefull to the comunity. Even after all this time i still sometimes ask questions like a noob, should i be blocked???
There is one solution for this problem: NOT allowing to post untill they have at least read a few posts MARKED as an obligation. But i don't think it's possible.
What we see here is the growing of a forum with soo many devices and people, i think about a year or two this will stabelize :laugh::laugh::laugh:
becosemsaida

Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.

praetorius said:
put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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I abandoned a forum in my country due to "laws /rules" like that. Things were just getting out of proportion that it is impossible to help people there. Unfortunatly the mods over there think that they are god and if you make a reference about this forum or about rooting you will get banned !!!! I don't think that it's the future of this forum..
Restrict some topics to people that have more then xx months or xx posts will help. But i don't think it's possible to do. And what a bout people like me, i only read here, learn and do not post often. I don't have time to make a rom or custom firmware and come here for leasure ??? Am i elegible for seeing everything...... As you see it is very hard to make the choise about who can have full accesws and who doesn't.
becosemsaida

Write on development section thread should have some restriction.
And thank meter is one good criteria (just being member since long/posting just certain number of post dont make skilled)
if member have at least 10-20 thank meter he/she must have some skill and may not post noob Q.
There is always Q/A section is open for newbies.

this needs to be said.....
i have to call you out on this. The OP has been posting bizarre and rambling questions in DEV threads, getting all pissed off when ppl ask him not too, and has even admitted to not wanting to bother reading the thread because he is not that stupid.
It is people LIKE YOU that are bringing this place down.
If you cant be bothered searching or reading, you DO NOT BELONG on a development website. end of story.
If you want to make your phone look pretty to impress your mates, go some place else. XDA is all about the journey - the end result is not so important. its about trying things yourself and sharing knowledge. If you are just lucky enough, you might even be able to help someone out!
do not come here to whinge and flame others when you break the rules (do NOT post in a dev thread if it is not directly related to the development of that thread).
Also, you have to wonder how a user of 4 months has over 1000 posts, and some members have been here for years with only 500 posts.....
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little-vince said:
Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.

trolls and noobs should rot in hell
as for noobs,reading and jesus saves....
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
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And I completely agree with you. So why are you being all pissy about it?
PoisonWolf said:
And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
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Well clearly my definition of a noob/n00b/newb/newbie is different to yours. So I apologise if my "sweeping statement" offended you (and/or anyone else).
Are we not fighting for the same thing here?
Gee fricken wizz.

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I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
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I think XDA should do nothing here.
There are no real reasons to rage at some users posts.
There's nothing SO bad about it.
You can always press 'report' button if some super-mega-trolls come to your thread (I haven't seen any yet)
As for me, XDA community is currently not so friendly as it should be.
Devs raging at most of the posts, advanced users trolling noobs...
That's really not so nice.
Blocking users with small post count or small thanks count, etc is unacceptable in my opinion. Really.
Maybe XDA is meant for developers, but developers can't exist without users they are developing for.

Here is Example, why we should need some control
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29501802&postcount=91
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upgrades to lrk from lrg yesterday. No issues with deep sleep in both 404 version. Battery lasts more than a day. I am a very heavy user. I am satisfied with the performance, battery consumption.
I always factory reset after flashing a rom. You can do that but at your own risk. I am aware of the brick bug but i have don't at least till 40 times on stock kernel and no issues so far.
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I have factory reset over 40 times on stock ICS kernel and no issue so far.
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)

becosemsaida said:
That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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This I agree, sometimes it's not that they're noob, it's that they're kiasu, as we Singaporeans call it. They spam devs with stupid questions, since it's free to ask anyway, and expect people to be free 24/7 to reply.
Also, many devs hate XDA. Because much dev work is not being appreciated here. In the Acer Iconia A500 section, both devs "Thor2002pro" and "dexter_nlb" have made amazing contributions to the community, but many *******s don't appreciate what they have done. They have left subsequently.
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