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Naming/Calling in Development session

I would like to suggest for naming/calling in Development session.
As we all known that Z, J, Trip, Wolfbreak and 28spawn have their own successes.
Z has succeed his stable Froyo 2.2 rom and camera.
J is porting CM7 Gingerbread.
Trip has ported his own rom
Wolfbreak has succeeded in camcorder for 2.2 and his stable rom CM6.1.3 which was based on Froyo 2.2.
28spawn is good at tweaking camera and camcorder qualities.
Can we give clap for them? Yes, we can call them real developers. I am really appreciating their works.
However, I have seen some people are copying sources from others, just changing themes, changing launcher which can get free from Market, a little bit of tweaking and they called/named it to rom/firmware.
Can we give a name such as Changing Launchers or Changing Themes or Updating rather than naming/calling new ROM/Firmware?
Well, I am not a developer. I believed that everyone can understand what I meant.
This thread is just a suggestion.

Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.

javagreen said:
Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.
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That's why I didn't mention "Succeed".

javagreen said:
Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.
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Ahahahahahahahaa +10
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javagreen said:
Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.
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Wow.
What do you have against him?

People are adding a launcher onto someone else's rom and then having the audacity to ask for donations....
As for trip, nice universal radio and fully working gingerbread rom... Wait, those never happened?

javagreen said:
Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.
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People like you are probably the reason he hasnt uploaded anything. Pretty sure Trip was the one to port MiUi and the first to port Arc and other devs have attested that he has provided sources and other assistance. Just because he never fixed every bug in the ROMs he worked on for no compensation in his spare time and then quit posting when everyone started flaming him and his threads were closed. None of the devs is obligated to do any of this work for you. Quit the unnecessary flaming, trip has done more for this community than you ever will. I haven't seen you upload any ROMs be they complete or otherwise. And Im sure if his unified radio is ever released you'll be flashing it just like everyone else. A project like his radio isn't something that can be done overnight especially when you factor in many of the devs are busy with their own lives and work. After seeing the trash you and other ungrateful self inflated asses have posted here I wouldn't freely share my work here if I was him either.
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CMoney87 said:
People like you are probably the reason he hasnt uploaded anything. Pretty sure Trip was the one to port MiUi and the first to port Arc and other devs have attested that he has provided sources and other assistance. Just because he never fixed every bug in the ROMs he worked on for no compensation in his spare time and then quit posting when everyone started flaming him and his threads were closed. None of the devs is obligated to do any of this work for you. Quit the unnecessary flaming, trip has done more for this community than you ever will. I haven't seen you upload any ROMs be they complete or otherwise. And Im sure if his unified radio is ever released you'll be flashing it just like everyone else. A project like his radio isn't something that can be done overnight especially when you factor in many of the devs are busy with their own lives and work. After seeing the trash you and other ungrateful self inflated asses have posted here I wouldn't freely share my work here if I was him either.
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I have to agree. Anyone of you who thinks that trip is not competant then please go ahead and build us some roms perhaps you could finish where he left off, i bet a lot of us here will be damn right happy. Trip has already stated his reason for being off most of the time. But you guys still flame him. Sadly this is usually what happens
Dev does things people are happy, devs stops for awhile people either forget him or flame him.
HE DOESNT DO THIS AS A FULL TIME JOB!! even if we crave for some bug fixes or something new from the devs, anyone of them. We must remember that they have their lives just like us and not some guy sitting infront of the com 24 hours 7 days a week just to get your thanks and maybe a few bucks of donation.
As for people calling themselves devs and asking for donation by changing some things and stuff. Well i cannot say it is wrong but donations are based on the satisfaction of the benefactor. So if his tweaks, even if its small, satisfies the benefactor then the donations is fine. Thats the whole point of donations basically. And i believe if they are using other roms they should either link or give credit.
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tryantar said:
I have to agree. Anyone of you who thinks that trip is not competant then please go ahead and build us some roms perhaps you could finish where he left off, i bet a lot of us here will be damn right happy. Trip has already stated his reason for being off most of the time. But you guys still flame him. Sadly this is usually what happens
Dev does things people are happy, devs stops for awhile people either forget him or flame him.
HE DOESNT DO THIS AS A FULL TIME JOB!! even if we crave for some bug fixes or something new from the devs, anyone of them. We must remember that they have their lives just like us and not some guy sitting infront of the com 24 hours 7 days a week just to get your thanks and maybe a few bucks of donation.
As for people calling themselves devs and asking for donation by changing some things and stuff. Well i cannot say it is wrong but donations are based on the satisfaction of the benefactor. So if his tweaks, even if its small, satisfies the benefactor then the donations is fine. Thats the whole point of donations basically. And i believe if they are using other roms they should either link or give credit.
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That may all be true, but I can understand the flaming directed towards him. As I recall, Trip started many projects without successfully completing any. And then being a dev, one should welcome criticism, which Trip did not. Instead he momentarily stopped working on selected projects inorder to "punish" the critics. Can you really blame people for the flaming directed towards him?
I like his ROMs. Just wish that he had completed them.
Edit: I take back everything I had said. With all his latest work, he is an awesome dev!

javagreen said:
Agree on everything except Trip.
That loser doesn't belong in any section with 'Development' in it's title.
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\o/ #WIN xD

CMoney87 said:
People like you are probably the reason he hasnt uploaded anything. Pretty sure Trip was the one to port MiUi and the first to port Arc and other devs have attested that he has provided sources and other assistance. Just because he never fixed every bug in the ROMs he worked on for no compensation in his spare time and then quit posting when everyone started flaming him and his threads were closed. None of the devs is obligated to do any of this work for you. Quit the unnecessary flaming, trip has done more for this community than you ever will. I haven't seen you upload any ROMs be they complete or otherwise. And Im sure if his unified radio is ever released you'll be flashing it just like everyone else. A project like his radio isn't something that can be done overnight especially when you factor in many of the devs are busy with their own lives and work. After seeing the trash you and other ungrateful self inflated asses have posted here I wouldn't freely share my work here if I was him either.
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tryantar said:
I have to agree. Anyone of you who thinks that trip is not competant then please go ahead and build us some roms perhaps you could finish where he left off, i bet a lot of us here will be damn right happy. Trip has already stated his reason for being off most of the time. But you guys still flame him. Sadly this is usually what happens
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Without going into the intricacies, try telling that to people who actually donated to "Trip". You two are probably among those, I suspect.
Happy "Trip"ping
pngface said:
Wow.
What do you have against him?
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Quite the same thing you have against Geohot.
One's a media whore, the other is a farce.

No i havent but whether or not he abandoned them because of critics is not the point. Every dev have their own reasons, he may have his own for not completing them. And why should one flame him then? Without him we wouldnt have most of what we have . you may argue u dont use them but others do. He contributed something to the community unlike some flamers who flame but nothing is coming from them in return. Im emphasising on the stuff he did finish. Why look at the wrongs when there are countless possibilities with the rights?
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I think the trip argument is boring now. Its over with now, so many posts already on the subject.
Shall we all just put it behind us now and move on. We're all grown up, s here.
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If you are a developer you should accept criticism especially bad ones. Big headed devs dont have any place here. This is a community thread right (sharing and everything).
Even forum rules states it.
I remember on trips thread that a member wants to have his source but as i expected trip didnt reply.
Selfish people dont belong here.
Im not a dev right, but all i can give is help others problems that i have encountered and share some solutions.
Triping for ever. Lol.
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hey guys,
This tread is just for the people who are putting sugar on other developer's succeed and getting donation from people.
And if you can not finish your project, PLEASE don't put on Development session.
So nobody can blame to you.
Cheers!

x10b said:
If you are a developer you should accept criticism especially bad ones. Big headed devs dont have any place here. This is a community thread right (sharing and everything).
Even forum rules states it.
I remember on trips thread that a member wants to have his source but as i expected trip didnt reply.
Selfish people dont belong here.
Im not a dev right, but all i can give is help others problems that i have encountered and share some solutions.
Triping for ever. Lol.
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Absolutely right, all trip ever did was masked in secrecy, he never openly shared with other devs like J or Z, the ported radio is an example where J is clearly asking Trip for some openness and to share work.
Also I seem to remember he got upset because his links got taken down even though they contained warez.
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Ahh whatever let the man himself fight for his rights after this laahh... im bored of defending him. I will make a this one more post on the trip topic. And why not we just stop flaming him for now and at least he will back give us a good explaination for his actions. And dont get started on we dont want him back posts. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE anybody replying to this and saying that YOU do not want him back. I mean it. Im frustrated facing a wall of people that would just flame. Not everybody has those good and awesome moral values u want as the perfect dev. I can imagine how he feels now. And i bet just when he stops some of his projects people by the truckload starts flaming him. Id be frustrated and feel that this community isnt proper for me. If the devs should have those awesome value we as the community needs to have them too. SO FREAKING STOP FLAMING FML
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News about current circumstances

As some of you may have noticed a few threads have dissappeared in the DEV section
This is because of two reasons, the first being the Developer wanting to leave xda, the second being the sheer level of bad language to be found in them.
I also want to remind everyone that opening a topic to ask a developers to come back is not helpful or wanted, and they are currently being deleted. And those certain members who feel hat they have been wronged and start rom bashing. will be dealt with severely
Please Feel free to PM me or any other mod with a concern
best regards
PiLoT

Can u post some harsh rules in the forum?? Like banning abusers etc??.
VIPER

viper619 said:
Can u post some harsh rules in the forum?? Like banning abusers etc??.
VIPER
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no x10 section is under the enter forums rules, however if a person spams or trolls then they get seen to fast

In other words the rules you agreed to when you registered.

an idea, or suggestion, but...
i [read no one of importance] think this would be an opportune time to clean things up in the different forums, maybe enforce a general guideline for devs in thread naming and structure, maybe eliminate some of the stickies that are no longer needed [ie 2.1 after effects and 2.1 rom coming soon, petition for froyo, etc] so more important stickies don't get lost in sticky land [ie forum rules/guidelines].
i think with some structure and uniform, people wouldn't be so quick with the "create another thread about gingerbread coming" mentality.
just a suggestion and in no way telling anyone how to moderate their forum.

This dev who shall not be named has many people who adrore or hate him . The people who liked him are now taking everychance to criticize other devs
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svtfmook said:
an idea, or suggestion, but...
i [read no one of importance] think this would be an opportune time to clean things up in the different forums, maybe enforce a general guideline for devs in thread naming and structure, maybe eliminate some of the stickies that are no longer needed [ie 2.1 after effects and 2.1 rom coming soon, petition for froyo, etc] so more important stickies don't get lost in sticky land [ie forum rules/guidelines].
i think with some structure and uniform, people wouldn't be so quick with the "create another thread about gingerbread coming" mentality.
just a suggestion and in no way telling anyone how to moderate their forum.
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ill be getting round to this later today

Apparently this has arise again today, it was matter of time. We need a community of sharing and friendly environment without threads turning in flame wars and offensive. Actions will be trigger to those who fuel this no matter what their status are (devs or members).
Thanks,

Mr. Clown said:
Apparently this has arise again today, it was matter of time. We need a community of sharing and friendly environment without threads turning in flame wars and offensive. Actions will be trigger to those who fuel this no matter what their status are (devs or members).
Thanks,
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Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
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Wow. I thought it was over. What the hell happened??????????
It's not even been a month since it happened the last time. This is saddening.

Mortyx10 said:
Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
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It doesn't help that the dev I shall not name is a flamer himself.
Just saying.

kantk20111 said:
It doesn't help that the dev I shall not name is a flamer himself.
Just saying.
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Yep! I agree. I stopped posting in his threads, but I do read. And i gotta say, he says alot of ignorant crap directed at other devs. Its a bit taunting really. I would flame the hell out of him, but im not in the mood to get banned..
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you mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k
Edit: Actually, I don't want to get banned either Please delete if you think its in bad taste

pngface said:
you mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4m4wbYc08k
Edit: Actually, I don't want to get banned either Please delete if you think its in bad taste
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Hahahaha yes! Like that.
Way to bring in the humor
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Free open source is being misused. These devs are contributing for free. Free source doesn't mean we can expect slavery or even cooperation.
What? Are you going to say that since a person isn't updating or contributing fast enough, or even having disagreements with others, that they don't deserve the opportunity to participate in an open and free forum?
Edit: Not to mention, that most of the people *****ing are senior members who contribute nothing more than assistance to noobs who break more xda rules than any developer, and the fact that Trip provides some of the best ROMs for the X10 should elevate him to untouchable status.
Anyone who talks **** about Trip better be a majorly contributing developer, otherwise just shut up.

agentJBM said:
Free open source is being misused. These devs are contributing for free. Free source doesn't mean we can expect slavery or even cooperation.
What? Are you going to say that since a person isn't updating or contributing fast enough, or even having disagreements with others, that they don't deserve the opportunity to participate in an open and free forum?
We have senior members who contribute nothing more than assistance to noobs who break more xda rules than any dev.
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I agree with you. They offer a ROM that is free for everyone to use. Where does it say that they are obliged to update it? Whether they do or don't is completely up to them. As for the flaming and taunting, I do not agree with that and everyone, whether its a dev, mod or member should exercise courtesy and respect towards others. It seems that this forum has turned into a soap opera lately which is really disappointing.

-PiLoT- said:
As some of you may have noticed a few threads have dissappeared in the DEV section
This is because of two reasons, the first being the Developer not willing to work on updates, the second being the sheer level of bad language to be found in them.
I also want to remind everyone that opening a topic to ask a developers to come back is not helpful or wanted, and they are currently being deleted. And those certain members who feel hat they have been wronged and start rom bashing. will be dealt with severely
Please Feel free to PM me or any other mod with a concern
best regards
PiLoT
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Just a small thinking.Well,I don't want to be banned
Just ignore me if this is offensive
You firstly mentioned that that dev doesn't have the intension to continue his work.But I am wondering if he had given such comments here on his/other posts.Would you mind to provide some evidence?I am pretty sure that you deleted the posts after you have read some of his comments.
For the sheer level of bad language,I always read post.
In a war,yes,it is no doubt that some devs here are/were arguing because someone want to protect his own work,personally I think it would be better to define the level of bad language.Calling people a copycat,saying someone is a glitch violate the rules?Language is not maths,meanings of word varies from person to person.
Also,it is understanding that someone speaks bit rudely when he is in anger.
Furthermore,what if that dev really can show some evidence that someone might forget to give him credit?
Thanks for reading
regards,
L

Really disappointed about what has happened here. I woke up to see the x10 forums in pieces.
I'm sure the aim of this forum is to forge cohesiveness between users who are willing to learn and share with developers who are willing to selflessly Take time out of their busy schedule to cook up roms for our users
I know that whatever I'm gonna say here ain't gonna change the mod ' s mind but I hope the mods can really come clean about what really happened here instead of using vague terms like "attitude problem" or "unwilling to work on updates" when he releases updates almost once a day. Just like a democratic government, and citizens of a democracy, transparency and accountability to the people should top priority
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Sad to see him leave, only for the developments he provided to X10, the conflict wont be missed but what I seem to be missing is about 30 or 40 post to my post count. This has happened before to me when he closed/deleted a thread of his. It is not really important in the grand scheme of things but my posts were not offensive, mostly helpful and relevant questions to Trip or others. Is it fair that I (others also) loose or have a reduction to their post count throught the deletion of the thread? I dont post a lot so will take a little time to build it back up lol. Cheers

Mortyx10 said:
Just one question could you please kindly explain why you mods just delete Trip's threads while you clean up other threads If the same thing happens? I think if you ban the flamers does the job not to delete the whole thing. Thanks
Agree with above....
Also how can mods say "one reason was because he didnt work on updates"... WTF.... He does this for FREE and where in rules does it say "if u release a rom then u must provide frequent updates"
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Respect the Developers

Hey guys I've observed the DEV section recently. What I see is a lot of trolling, flamming, spamming and etc. That's out of my hands, 'cause if I try and tell them off, I would be contributing to the spam and trolling. Plus, stuff like that is usually between user and user. What REALLY pisses me off is that there are some users who actually have the balls to question and berate the DEVS themselves ! Imagine, these hardworking group of people, who have no obligation to us or duty to fulfill, are sacrificing their time, energy, money (electric bills don't pay themselves and PCs don't run on petrol ) and resources to develop something for us to use from day to day. May I remind you that it is all free ? But what faith awaits these people ? Money ? Fame (yeah, well maybe a little ) ? Keys to a Ferrari ? NO. They are rewarded with demands and insults from normal users who do nothing to help ! I'm not a moderator, so I can't step up and do anything to these ungrateful b*startds. Not only that. While the devs are hard at work developing a new ROM or MOD, they expect to open up their threads, hoping for some useful bug reports. But no. What they do see is a bunch of ETA's, complaints and repeated questions. All I CAN do is sit and advice and advice and advice...but what I see is trolls and such have gotten bolder. Even I've lost my patience with these people and nowadays I tell it as it is. I know mods can't be here 24/7, so of coarse stuff like this is bound to happen. Hey, even they have lives. There are users who actually care and try to advice these trolls, like lucastan96, deedii, colossus and wilbso. Unfortunately, their time, effort and kindness too, as their words are falling on deaf ears now. So what do you guys think ? I want to know if you guys have any advice to contribute or any suggestions to give...from what i see, if this nonsense continues, development in the X8 forums will slowly become extinct...
P.S. No flamming, trolling or disrespecting here either ! And if you're one of the trolls, please don't waste your time clarifying of defending yourselves...no one wants to hear it...

Well now! Nice words above, Rohin. I totally agree of what you are saying. Trolls, if you re-read all your posts carefully, those including stupid arguements and asking ETAs, you should realize you are scaring the developers away from our beloved forum. I am really very fed up with trolls here in the forum, except for one particular thread "Off Topic" thread created by moderator Zelendel. Guys, seriously, stop acting like kids begging people for some answers of something, especially in the dev forum. Or, you still want to say something that is TOO TOTALLY OFF TOPIC? The thread is there for you.
All I can say is you guys trolls just make me lost my appetite everyday.
Be wise, and rethink of the occasion when ICS was firstly ported to our phones by Troufiniou and other people. How is the thread being bombadded by those stupid trolls? (Just go see the thread, the one created by Rohin)
I dont mean to make the people here angry. All I want is to live in a peaceful and caring forum. So, guys, I had decided my birthday wish. I want all the trolls to take a vacation.
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Whoa... didn't take long to reach "enlightenment", RohinZaraki...
Well, welcome to the Zoo - where everyone seems to think we owe them something or we're somehow obligated to do as they say.
You better get used to the fact that they will never learn, simply out of the fact that the average age around here in this section seems to range between "still liquid" up to 14-16.

B.Jay said:
Whoa... didn't take long to reach "enlightenment", RohinZaraki...
Well, welcome to the Zoo - where everyone seems to think we owe them something or we're somehow obligated to do as they say.
You better get used to the fact that they will never learn, simply out of the fact that the average age around here in this section seems to range between "still liquid" up to 14-16.
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Well im 15 and even i know these clowns are slave driving the devs...pisses me off to see it happen. And im just a user..cant imagine how the devs feel
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I pity the moderators too. Dont you?
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maybe some people came here without reading the forum rules and just post what they want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=849&a=81
if they read the forum rules and post within those rules it would be much better without flaming and spamming.

Well, at least themed ROMs are blocked now. Now you see there's less ROMs being released recently. Thanks go to Colossus for enforcing this great rule.
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Some people basically has never done charity work. They dont know how it feels to work their as* off for free.
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I pity the moderators too. Dont you?
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I do...but mods have the power to change things around here...all we can do is open up new threads after new threads trying to change people's mindsets...
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Those are words of wisdom , I don't see why people just go flame or troll for no reason , they have too much time in their hands.

just stop responding to these people.....well your speech is quite effective......nowadays we should have a reserved post for THIS.

Ignoring is one thing...i mean, i could just ignore these retards and move on...but think of how the devs feel...thats what im poking at

B.Jay is right and so was JahlovePL-in miui by jahlove,his last comment,he specified that this community cannot respect others work....devs feel bad...yeah they do....we can do nothing about it....only some members keep this community alive.....just think of them as positive side..

This thread should be made a stcky...

Sticky or not, i know trolls wont take the time to read this abd even if they do, they'll just shrug it off...but it looks like the trolling and disrespecting has sloeed down these past few days
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OK,OK,I already apologized to jahlove,btw,I fixed wifi on his miui 4 beta 3,that is a apologize gift
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Totally agree with u.. and would try my best to spread this..
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Agree, too. Some devs leaved xda because of the idiots how dont
respect their work (Not in this section but in other devices).
Maybe dev section should be shut down for normal users and a dicussion thread for every rom could be started? Just an idea..

Great thread. Haven't read much of those troll posts in dev section as I hang around in General and Q&A most of the time (don't know enough to be helpful to the devs). Hope the trolls read this and stop trolling. Maybe they'd realize what would happen without those devs. We owe those guys HUGE.

Sick of several things on XDA

Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Wisdom strong in this post is. Franco is a really good developer and I'm sad he left Note. He used to develop for my old Huawei before he left for GNex and his kernel rocked. :thumbup:
But... One shouldn't take the regular forum trolls too seriously. Just leave them crying in their own **** and move own. There is also the report function here.
I agree with you though that there is way too much idiots in the development forums. Just look at the new JB PA 1.1 thread: couple of first pages just full of posts "how do I install this?" "does this brick my phone!?" etc. So annoying to find the actual bug reports or feedbacks through all the ****. This is because people are way too lazy to actually study anything these days. Everything has to brought to them ready and chewed.
Edit: and there is also this one hero that already bricked his note with JB PA because he didn't care to study stuff before flashing. :banghead:
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Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.

pboesboes said:
Just report their posts. The mods are also sick of it and are handing out infractions, IIRC. I have yet to see a noob post again after reporting him, so it works very well.
It seems the original dev section doesn't have the 10 post requirement like the normal dev section. And most spam is from people with one or a few posts. It would definitely help to have that 10 post rule there.
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We can report.. But that won't stop the developer getting pissed and stopping development..
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I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...

Randomwalker said:
I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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Tbh there should be a read count for how many threads someone has read. :beer: That would just be a little hard to measure.
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I certainly agree on you with this one. But like in every other forum and the whole internet, you can't really prevent noobs and trolls. Trolls gotta troll man. Kinda hard to filter them out as it will require the mods to check every single day on every single thread with thousands of post on it and obviously that will take full time. Most of us specially moderators do this for a hobby.
Let's just do our part to make the community a better place. That is reporting trolls. Like the other guy said on the 2nd post, let's just click on that little report button and the mods will take care of the rest or you can just ignore the regular forum troll and move on like most of us do. An old internet saying "Don't feed the trolls" ignore them and the average forum troll will just hunt for the next trollable thread and will eventually get tired, while the persistent ones, well let's just keep on clicking the report button and wait for the banhammer to land
The post requirement or the tenureship in the forum is a fantastic idea though. Maybe even the thanks meter/level, like you could post even if you're not 3 months old or don't have 350 posts but if you do have a certain thanks level/meter you could post and access the restricted area of the forums. No one would press the thanks button if you didn't post something useful right?

Randomwalker said:
I don't think post count is a good indicator at all: There are ppl. with 1000+ posts posting general rants in device specific forums...
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put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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msedek said:
Well I know XDA its ment for developers.. And they are kind enough to share their hard work with us.. Bringing new life to our devices and more..
Developers always gets piss off about stupid question and or issues reports without providing a logcat... While I'm agree with this.. I'm not agree with XDA letting average noob post in development section.. Looking at the nature of the forum I can not believe there's isn't a way to block a person from posting in development if that person at least doesn't have (3 months and 350 post) in the forums... That's Imho a reasonable period of learning how to be helpful and provide useful information in development area...
I look at the case of Francisco Franco.. I really enjoy his works and support him a lot.. I had his kernels when I had a Gnex and that + cm9 was the best experience of Android for me.. Then I've sold the gnex and bought the note and one of the reasons I came without thinking was franco kernels does support note.. For my surprise he stopped supporting because of the ****ing trolls about a bluetooth issue in the kernel and so we all rest has to pay for it not haven updates anymore...
Recently he came back and one of the very first welcome post was a random noob asking for the bluetooth again. ... And Ffs I don't want to lose Francisco support again... And he was very clear about it..
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
Any user with those conditions not only be experienced enough to provide a logcat but will be scared of messing in development because he could get banned and lose his hard work in the account.....
That said I think there is no excuses to do so.. Look also to Entropy... I think the guy gotta buy a new keyboard every day raging at Noobs posting bs in cm9/10 developed threads..
XDA go ahead and take actions before we lose our developers
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Although you have a point here i really don't like the idea. Ok we need to restrict the troll posts but..... once you were a noob too !!!! What we see now is that this site has grown to numbers never seen before. In the early days there were only a handfull users, a few devices and not much to do. Nowadays if you have a problem EVERYBODY refers to this forum from other places. So basicly we have a flood of new, unexperienced, people that just have one big problem: THEY DON'T READ!!!! I've been a member for a long time now, learned a lot just by reading and only post when i think it's usefull to the comunity. Even after all this time i still sometimes ask questions like a noob, should i be blocked???
There is one solution for this problem: NOT allowing to post untill they have at least read a few posts MARKED as an obligation. But i don't think it's possible.
What we see here is the growing of a forum with soo many devices and people, i think about a year or two this will stabelize :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.

praetorius said:
put categories as "devs" and restrict allowed posts to those people only. then cross referrence the thread to a discussion page for noobs and others to bash each other.
those who wish to post in the dev section should provide a fully working firmware for downloads and testing purposes for the ones designated as "testers" on xda.
i know its a lot of work, but its a solution if the admin will put the political will to it.
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I abandoned a forum in my country due to "laws /rules" like that. Things were just getting out of proportion that it is impossible to help people there. Unfortunatly the mods over there think that they are god and if you make a reference about this forum or about rooting you will get banned !!!! I don't think that it's the future of this forum..
Restrict some topics to people that have more then xx months or xx posts will help. But i don't think it's possible to do. And what a bout people like me, i only read here, learn and do not post often. I don't have time to make a rom or custom firmware and come here for leasure ??? Am i elegible for seeing everything...... As you see it is very hard to make the choise about who can have full accesws and who doesn't.
becosemsaida

Write on development section thread should have some restriction.
And thank meter is one good criteria (just being member since long/posting just certain number of post dont make skilled)
if member have at least 10-20 thank meter he/she must have some skill and may not post noob Q.
There is always Q/A section is open for newbies.

this needs to be said.....
i have to call you out on this. The OP has been posting bizarre and rambling questions in DEV threads, getting all pissed off when ppl ask him not too, and has even admitted to not wanting to bother reading the thread because he is not that stupid.
It is people LIKE YOU that are bringing this place down.
If you cant be bothered searching or reading, you DO NOT BELONG on a development website. end of story.
If you want to make your phone look pretty to impress your mates, go some place else. XDA is all about the journey - the end result is not so important. its about trying things yourself and sharing knowledge. If you are just lucky enough, you might even be able to help someone out!
do not come here to whinge and flame others when you break the rules (do NOT post in a dev thread if it is not directly related to the development of that thread).
Also, you have to wonder how a user of 4 months has over 1000 posts, and some members have been here for years with only 500 posts.....
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little-vince said:
Sometimes the trolls you are referring to are actually innocent noobs who are afraid of bricking their new Notes. They just want to double check some crucial things before attempting risky procedures.
Were we not all noobs at one point in our lives?
I know both trolls and noobs can be really frustrating but many of the members here can be quite impatient, responding rudely and degrading the once-friendly community.
I do agree with you though and I definitely think changes need to be made to ensure the development thread remains strictly development related. But I also think changes should be made to some members attitude too.
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.

trolls and noobs should rot in hell
as for noobs,reading and jesus saves....
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So? When I was uncertain about something I posted it in either the general or Q/A section. Why the hell should anyone be posting questions in the dev section?
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And I completely agree with you. So why are you being all pissy about it?
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And no, despite contrary belief, some people are newbies, some people are noobs. Not everyone used to be a noob. There is a massive void between the two. A newbie is one that is self-learning and is capable of exercising some semblance of common sense with regards to forum rules and forum etiquette when he joins a new forum.
So please, if you want to consider yourself a noob at one point, go right ahead. But do not make sweeping statements that everyone was a noob.
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Well clearly my definition of a noob/n00b/newb/newbie is different to yours. So I apologise if my "sweeping statement" offended you (and/or anyone else).
Are we not fighting for the same thing here?
Gee fricken wizz.

msedek said:
I think XDA SHOULD block as I said earlier users with the double conditional of (3 month old account and 350 post) from writing on development.. They could read and download but not write..
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I think XDA should do nothing here.
There are no real reasons to rage at some users posts.
There's nothing SO bad about it.
You can always press 'report' button if some super-mega-trolls come to your thread (I haven't seen any yet)
As for me, XDA community is currently not so friendly as it should be.
Devs raging at most of the posts, advanced users trolling noobs...
That's really not so nice.
Blocking users with small post count or small thanks count, etc is unacceptable in my opinion. Really.
Maybe XDA is meant for developers, but developers can't exist without users they are developing for.

Here is Example, why we should need some control
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29501802&postcount=91
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upgrades to lrk from lrg yesterday. No issues with deep sleep in both 404 version. Battery lasts more than a day. I am a very heavy user. I am satisfied with the performance, battery consumption.
I always factory reset after flashing a rom. You can do that but at your own risk. I am aware of the brick bug but i have don't at least till 40 times on stock kernel and no issues so far.
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jaskiratsingh said:
I have factory reset over 40 times on stock ICS kernel and no issue so far.
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That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)

becosemsaida said:
That's not a noob issue.............This is just a person that is STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!
I already called his atention but that is going to be a full days work with all these............ (glup)
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This I agree, sometimes it's not that they're noob, it's that they're kiasu, as we Singaporeans call it. They spam devs with stupid questions, since it's free to ask anyway, and expect people to be free 24/7 to reply.
Also, many devs hate XDA. Because much dev work is not being appreciated here. In the Acer Iconia A500 section, both devs "Thor2002pro" and "dexter_nlb" have made amazing contributions to the community, but many *******s don't appreciate what they have done. They have left subsequently.
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[HAVE A RANT] About the XDA Galaxy S2 Forums

Well, Not sure how long this post will last for, but we all need a place to rant.....So I have opened this post....What really gets on your nerves about the galaxy s2/galaxy s2 forums? please no mentioning usernames of users.....
Well, I wanna start.... WHAT REALLY IRRITATES ME IS.......
1) Users WHO DON'T read forums first! SOFT-BRICK YOUR PHONE?? Tough! The Forums and Each Dev and Even Sammobile tell you how to correctly flash your phone, what kernels to use....and STILL users think they know best, mess their phones up!!!! Everything has a risk....read read and read again!!!
2) The Post count to get into the Development forum, I think, it should be higher, maybe 50 posts, as in point one, users who got no idea what they doing, mess their phones up, and flame and go off topic in dev forum posts.....use PM or the question forum!!!!
3) Users who keep on about the same thing in Q and A forum....WHAT KERNEL HAS THE BRICKBUG??? blah blah blah.....read the sticky posts at the top, use GOOGLE
4) My main bugbear is....maybe a new firmware for a different country (going from XXLPT to XXLPX for instance) and loads and loads of people keep on and on for DEVS (who have a life by the way!) to completely stop dev-ing and base their ROMS on the new firmware version, when maybe one little thing been change between each firmware version!!! GIVE THE DEVS A BREAK!!!!
5) posts that say 'WHY YOU STILL ON GINGERBREAD when JELLYBEAN is a lot better?????' ..... Well, we pay a premium price for our phones, if I want to put a custom GB rom on, I WILL, in my honest opinion (my opinion!) JELLYBEAN is still not 100% stable, people have choices!!
6) My last and final point.... (I rant too much!) 'oh I changed my camera blah blah change DPI blah blah mounted and moved file to /system - and now phone dont work' - Well, Stop messing with phone then!!! Use phone what its created for, AGAIN like all Devs say, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! brick your phone....read the Q and A section....
RANT OVER>>>>>
Anyway, there is A LOT of things I love about these forums, HELPFUL USERS, GREAT MODS, AMAZING DEVS and very concise and understandable guides - even my wife understood how to root her SG2 (and she not a technological person either!)
ANYWAY leave your rants below

Only one thing: people(let us call them noobs for now ) post questions into General section instead of Q&A.. I really hate that...
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Mods who close good threads, such as this one.
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biggary said:
What really gets on your nerves about the galaxy s2/galaxy s2 forums?
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Rants.

People who think they are better than the rest on here.
People who insist on telling everyone to use the search function when in reality (as shown by the posts) the XDA app is the method of choice and it has NO search capabilities that are useful.
People who state 'read my sig' but again XDA app does not show sigs nor signatures.
You people are most likely young and as such ignorant S. O. B. who think only of your selves with no consideration nor respect for others.
This is supposed to be a global community.
Makes one wonder.
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Totally agree with the GB part likes I prefer ICS myself I find custom jelly bean roms are battery killers like. Even on a low display brightness JB isn't finished yet if you ask me. N Yeh give the devs a break they do so much for us n they don't charge for it either so keep yer mouth shut n hit the thanks button
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Mods who close good threads, such as this one.
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Why would anyone close this thread???
Yeah, problem is laziness and an inability to read before posting. All the rest stem from this imo.

People who spend ages setting up a home screen to post on show off threads who have 3 different clocks,4 battery level widgets etc. Why even try to optimize if you're using duplicates.
( I'm very easily riled)
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Noobs who say something or ask a question that has already been mentioned in a thread and then someone says 'please search before spamming the board'.. < logically your also spamming the board so how about being a top notch fellow and helping the person out rather than telling them off. Christ.

What gets me riled up is how the forums, even if there are new versions of the OS, get stuck in an infinite loop and an endless spiral of Groundhog day repetition.
Code:
bool NoobQuestionsAndRedundancy = true;
do
{
Facepalm()
}
while NoobQuestionsAndRedundancy == true;
*Waits patiently for someone to correct his code*

I am sick of
People who fight like dogs for and against some big companies like Samsung, Apple etc.
People who shamelessly bootlick some bigshots here
People who unnecessarily thank some unimaginative posts from bigshots here
People who are arrogant and spiteful
People who insult newbies out of proportion to their silly mistakes
People who judge other people or thread just because of something happened in the past
The list is endless.
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jebuchanan said:
People who think they are better than the rest on here.
People who insist on telling everyone to use the search function when in reality (as shown by the posts) the XDA app is the method of choice and it has NO search capabilities that are useful.
People who state 'read my sig' but again XDA app does not show sigs nor signatures.
You people are most likely young and as such ignorant S. O. B. who think only of your selves with no consideration nor respect for others.
This is supposed to be a global community.
Makes one wonder.
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+1,000,000,000
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If you wanna see some rants, check these out -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31218452&postcount=3571
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31166416&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30735436&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31048439&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30670897&postcount=3

KidCarter93 said:
If you wanna see some rants, check these out -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31218452&postcount=3571
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31166416&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30735436&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31048439&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30670897&postcount=3
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You need to get some valium off the doctor
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- Ridiculous ROM names ... 'Foxhound Revolver Ocelot' for example.
- Coming Soon posts - Post when its done, or STFU
- Huge signatures full of pointless images, lists of old phones and current specs ... No-one gives a f;*k

owwww where to start.
It's not only users, but also devs. hehe it's a rant thread so we can have a go
Devs who post an updated version every single day (full wipe prefered LOL)
Devs who post that they have created the fastest and most stabil rom
Faster this faster that .... my i9000 must already be 10 times faster than 10 quad cores running all at once
Users, all of what you guys have posted
disclaimer : No pun intended

Members who, presumably to make themselves feel better about themselves, spend more time searching this forum for excuses to moan at other people than they do looking for issues they can help out with. And there are a lot of these members.

Geez, since when did xda turn into a bunch of whiny brats?

allyourbase said:
Geez, since when did xda turn into a bunch of whiny brats?
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There is a certain irony in someone whining about people whining.
And, to answer your question, there has been an element of whine on here for some time.

@allyourbase Your signature doesn't amuse me, I actually thought i had a stupid bug on my screen...