hi everyone,
i have HD2 for 3 years (his battery drain in standby is 5-10 mA) and recently i bought second one, and I'm having problem with his battery drain in standby it never goes under 40mA (with airplane on is the same thing). i did task 29, put the same radio (2.15.50.14), same clk and same rom (NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7), I try juice defender and it is always above 40mA. On cpu spy I see that phone is in deep sleep 90% of time (similar like my first HD2). I try couple difrent roms and it never goes under 40mA in standby. i swap battery an it didnt change anything. is there anything that i could try or is it that some HD2 just cant get normal standby battery drain? what should I do, any advice will bi appreciated.
thx in advance
Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?
Nigeldg said:
Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?
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yes, with every (four) ROM standby battery drain is above 40 mA, I could try put back win 6.5 but that isn't why I bought this phone
A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?
samsamuel said:
A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?
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yes I switch battery and it is the same, still big battery drain on second HD2 and normal on first. battery pins are clear an they looks to be good.
update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next
stipa22 said:
update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next
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i reckon that 16hrs when its on android is good for a hd2 i have a hd2 with extended andina battery in i JUST get a full days use (ie 8am 2 10pm) with normal use thru out the day no mater what rom i have try'd and tbh ive try'd a lot and there on par with each other but if you have all the stuf on ,gps Bluetooth then i get about 6 hrs from it
as i have said b4 this phone was never ment to run android hence why the battery is better in winmo
I agree with you it that it isn't made for android, but there is to big deference between two hd2 that i have, anyway can you send me link of extended battery and what capacity is it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-HD2-T...808370?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc10bb7b2
i dont know ware you in the world but you can search worldwide id wait if you cant get one and see if one pops up ,also these gold hd2 batterys you see on there are crap ive try'd one there no better than the htc org battery the andida has a good name but you get what you pay for
have you tr'd a bigger partion on it you may have bad blocks or could be or have been overheated in the past (processor) thats also common i use the nexus 4.0.4 rom and i find it ok
to be honest i don't know, i got it last week for low price as used phone whit win mobile on. i did tray bigger partition it didnt help. but i think it might be damaged because last night I turned it off when it was on 20% battery (to save battery) and this morning I couldn't turn it on, battery was dead, so i think it has some hardware malfunction. i will try to find bigger battery (double size in capacity and in size), also don't believe in gold battery , not for that price, thanks for replay
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My universalspv m5000 shuts down when it reach 45% of battery...how can i change this do 10%? or 20%? thanks
buy a new battery ..thats all
mo3ulla said:
buy a new battery ..thats all
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Initially this sounds like an unacceptable reply, but mo3ulla speaks the truth, I had the same problem and the battery needed replacing, now mine goes all the way down to the bottom before it dies.
There are several other exact same threads...why didn't you do the search?
Answer...buy a new one.
i search'd for...but the answer i am looking for is not "buy new one..." you might have $$ to spend but i dont
Terramoto said:
i search'd for...but the answer i am looking for is not "buy new one..." you might have $$ to spend but i dont
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try this:
after it becomes dead... try to plug it in to make it "turn on" again.... then remove the plug when the device is already on.... now use the device until your battery drains out.... charge it and then the next time you use it.... it will shut down on a different percent... maybe 20%... maybe 10%....
i used to do this before i got my new battery.... my battery randomly shuts my universal when im in 23%, 20% and 11%... you may still have to buy a new battery soon...
I solve with new battery,20 euro from Germany,1800mah.Now it's all ok,my uni turned off at 35%
Same happend to my device after one year of usage. Simply buy a new Battery ... this solves your problem.
lol you have to meny to get an expensive machine like the Universal, but you don't have the money for a new battery?
I agree that this is most likely a serious design flaw in the Universal, but spending $15 to $20 is not the end of the world.
Time for a new battery, most definitely. Mine shuts down at about 55%-60% through continuous use, otherwise it will happily idle down to about 30 without any problem. I power cycled it a few times, but that's only a temporary solution. Given as how most original batteries are 18+ months old and the fact that they're recharged nearly everyday means they're going to show signs of degradation by this time. I'm considering getting the 3.2Ah one myself, seems like a good compromise between size and longevity.
pasan said:
Given as how most original batteries are 18+ months old and the fact that they're recharged nearly everyday means they're going to show signs of degradation by this time.
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I had batteries die after a month.
The universal should not crash when the battery is dead though. It should simply warn that the battery is empty.
patrickl said:
I had batteries die after a month.
The universal should not crash when the battery is dead though. It should simply warn that the battery is empty.
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Not when your battery is damaged. Normaly a batty looses some Volts over a constant time of using. After reload the Battery will have the full voltage again. A defect battery will drop down the Volts from one secound to another under a working minimum, so the device has no power to keep running.
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Not when your battery is damaged. Normaly a batty looses some Volts over a constant time of using. After reload the Battery will have the full voltage again. A defect battery will drop down the Volts from one secound to another under a working minimum, so the device has no power to keep running.
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What's the use of reporting the battery level if it's not accurate? All other devices I have just switch of faster when the battery degrades. The device still knows when the batterry is empty. The Universal is the only device I've ever encountered that claims the battery is 45% full when in fact it's empty.
Apart from that, it's demolishing batteries at a ridiculously high rate. I have 5 year old PDA's which still function perfectly and that were used just as much a back then.
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Hi all
I'm a new member.
Great forum I have to say
I have a new battery after the old one started draining itself
in under a day, no problems before that, the new battery is doing the same,
I have the phone set to "turn off power if not used for 3 mins" &
running window mobile 6.5 test (before I ran windows 6)
I'm just using it as a phone really & not much else, can't figure out
why it's draining the battery so fast!
yesterday it told me the battery was really low but I left it
for around 10 hours & it was still on but had the same low power level
as the day before
any help is appreciated.
SoftBank X01HT / ROM PV 6.5 21500
i think you should change your radio version...
RxenDrav said:
i think you should change your radio version...
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What would you suggest ?
RxenDrav said:
i think you should change your radio version...
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I'm also interested in that. I have a 2+ year old battery, and now with 3g it lasts 30 minutes if browsing full....
thanks!
PS: sparks72, how long does the new battery work? what are the specs of the battery?
diegolaz said:
I'm also interested in that. I have a 2+ year old battery, and now with 3g it lasts 30 minutes if browsing full....
thanks!
PS: sparks72, how long does the new battery work? what are the specs of the battery?
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Hi diegolaz
Battery drains from 99% when fully charged to 80% in a few seconds!
can last all day if handset isn't used but after only a couple of short calls drains dramatically & nags me for a recharge.
The new battery is a 3.7V DC Li-ion 1350mAh.
manufacturer is Celxpert Energy CO Ltd. (China)
Strangely I've been having battery drain problems too, most notably when using 3g data or wifi. Thing is I do have 2 batteries to test with and one of them is not very old. I'm running radio 1.54.07.00 which I have been using for a long time, long enough to remember not having problems with it.
I started keeping a log, here is my results for today:
3:26pm, batter starts at 79%
4:40pm = 71%
8:30pm = 51%
9:30pm = 19%
Between 8:30 and 9:30 i did a hard reset, installed some apps, used wifi for a bit to download the apps and get my exchange account setup, and got/sent some text messages. Seems like a pretty huge drop.
Does anyone know of an app that can report current power drain on the Hermes. I remember having something like that for my 8125
Today I just ordered a new OEM battery off of ebay for cheap just to see if it makes any difference, I recommend you all to do the same. It's the first step of the process of elimination....maybe both batteries I have really are bunk...or that i'm spoiled on my TILT's battery life.
Also turn off "beam" that seems to be on by default.
using wifi will drain the battery pretty fast anyway, but i would also check that your rom is not activating wifi on the sly, i had it when i cooked a rom using josh's kitchen and thought it was my battery that was knackered, turned out it was the wifi switching on constantly ,but i had no indication it was on. Not saying that is your problem , but worth checking all the same
Nothing is on in the background.
Battery still draining fast
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Strangely I've been having battery drain problems too, most notably when using 3g data or wifi. Thing is I do have 2 batteries to test with and one of them is not very old. I'm running radio 1.54.07.00 which I have been using for a long time, long enough to remember not having problems with it.
I started keeping a log, here is my results for today:
3:26pm, batter starts at 79%
4:40pm = 71%
8:30pm = 51%
9:30pm = 19%
Between 8:30 and 9:30 i did a hard reset, installed some apps, used wifi for a bit to download the apps and get my exchange account setup, and got/sent some text messages. Seems like a pretty huge drop.
Does anyone know of an app that can report current power drain on the Hermes. I remember having something like that for my 8125
Today I just ordered a new OEM battery off of ebay for cheap just to see if it makes any difference, I recommend you all to do the same. It's the first step of the process of elimination....maybe both batteries I have really are bunk...or that i'm spoiled on my TILT's battery life.
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The battery problem for me happened when I upgraded from WM5 to WM6,
even though I have had my Hermes since 2007 (brand new) I only started using it in Feb 2009. (had enough phones to deal with!!)
I tested my old OEM battery & their doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it, very confusing.
Well i got the new battery in, and in 24 hours i went from 96% to 8% at a drain rate of 3.66% an hour. This is good news, I guess those two other batteries I have are wasted :-/ , but at least the TYTN is ok.
sparks72 said:
Hi all
I'm a new member.
Great forum I have to say
I have a new battery after the old one started draining itself
in under a day, no problems before that, the new battery is doing the same,
I have the phone set to "turn off power if not used for 3 mins" &
running window mobile 6.5 test (before I ran windows 6)
I'm just using it as a phone really & not much else, can't figure out
why it's draining the battery so fast!
yesterday it told me the battery was really low but I left it
for around 10 hours & it was still on but had the same low power level
as the day before
any help is appreciated.
SoftBank X01HT / ROM PV 6.5 21500
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I am also facing the exact problem. But I don't think if it is the problem of battery. I think it's some problem with ROM version..
Any help is appriciated.
I have tried several different ROMs but the battery still drains quickly.
Can anyone on this forum shed some light on this problem at all ?
Have any of the developers experienced battery drain problems ?
Does anyone have a solution ?
Thank's
Hello there,
I would really like some advice - my battery is draining like water. I'm quite convinced it is the regulation of the unit; I bought a 2400mAh battery replacement and it lasted ages on first go, but then my G1 started draining stupidly fast after I'd recharged it. This also happens on the stock battery too (buy even quicker!). I'm convinced it is the regulation because a) I've never had battery problems previously and b) the battery meter starts at about 26% when I plug it it in (after the phone shuts off from it being dead and I then plug in the charger).
I actually have a bricked G1 that still charges batteries, so I thought I'd do an overnight charge on the battery that way, to 'remind' the other G1 what a 100% battery is like, but that didn't seem to work either.
Can someone help? Is this a known problem? I would really appreciate any advice.
Mark
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
gridlock32404 said:
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
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GPS doesn't really drain battery unless it's actively being used...at least not on my phone.
You can also try disabling 3G if you're not in a 3G area. It will keep trying to find a 3G signal, which really drains battery.
For the record, I have a stock battery that I get ~13-16 hours on from a single charge... my backlight is at 40%, GPS is always on, and I use wifi whenever I want to surf the web and am near an open network.
OP...if your battery is lasting you only a couple of hours, then I'd try to reflash your ROM. Might help...
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Yeah, that's on a normal, moderate usage day. If I use it heavily, with a lot of wifi and web browsing, then I'll get around 10.
Maybe your battery needs to be replaced... could just be old and not holding a charge properly.
It's 2 months old, has done it from day one, I also have another battery that does it too that I kept from a previously brick g1, so one 3 phones, all the same battery life but then I use it quite heavily, always browsing on the web since my computer burned out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555048
try that? 3rd gen battery could help..
Thanks for the suggestions, but it's not a wifi/3g/brightness etc problem - I've had a G1 for six months, I know exactly how much power should be consumed. It's also not the battery; I have two stock batteries and a brand new 2400mAh battery, which for the first few charges lasted about 2 - 2.5 days and was brilliant (as it should be), but now doesn't last all that long.
I may have made the situation slightly better however - I did a Nandroid backup, wiped to factory (well, Cyanogen 4.0.4 anyway) and booted into that. I then restored the backup and when I plugged back in to the charger, the meter was at 85%, and seemed to take a normal amount of time to charge (and not jump to 100%). It remains to be seen if the problem is solved, I've yet to have the battery drain (this is a good sign though) an plug in the charger to see if it will jump from 0 to 25 or not.
I'll re-post when I know.
run the battery down until the phone shuts off without plugging it in.
charge the battery while the phone is off over night
do this 3-5 times and see if you get any improvement.
also remember some of the cheap 2400 batts from ebay and such claim 2400 but that is from 3.5V to 3.0V. The G1 considers 3.2V to be dead so you only get from 3.5V to 3.2V which sucks.
I'm with gridlock on this one. My batteries suck. It always needs a mid day charge. And to the poster that said to reflash a rom, that is bad advice. There is known issues with getting poor performance out of these batteries. I have 2 and both do the same. Got the second one from complaining to t-mo about how bad it sucks.
Reflashing seems to have worked...the 2400mAh battery seems a lot better now, it lasted nearly two days (it runs at 3.7v, according to my battery diagnostic), I've only just recharged it last night. When I plug it in, it charges normally and linearly now, instead of jumping straight to 25%.
So my advice, if anyone is having similar problems to me, would be to try a reflash.
Thanks for your help everyone.
After successfully booting into android for the first time my battery life in android skyrocketed down, but that didn't really bother me.
The real problem is that even in WINMO my battery life is less than half what it used to be, and even after a night (8 hours) of charging (In a wall socket, not USB) its not at 100%
this has me very worried, any ideas? thanks in advance!
did you read anything before you started this thread...........
yes, i did. everyone is having a problem when they charge in android it gets to 90% then they switch to winmo and within minutes it picks back up to 100%.
this is not the case for me, my battery does not jump back up, it drains quickly even in winmo, and when it gets low its not just reading it improperly it just dies, so no this is not the same problem
did you know there are fixes .......and that your problem is not new at all....i am sorry to say that this is a know problem and you would want to ask in the thread of what build you are using and if you really wanted help you would post what build your using and what kernal , but no one can help you at all when you simply state you have battery issues
drain your battery in winmo till it dies, so the battery resets, then charge the battery again till full, it should be allright again.
thank you dipdap i will try that
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drain your battery in winmo till it dies, so the battery resets, then charge the battery again till full, it should be allright again.
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I strongly advise you NOT to do so. Draining a Lithium-Ion battery entirely is detrimental to its overall life/capacity. So instead of ruining your battery (or going a step towards ruining it), simply turn off your phone, charge it until you get the green LED, boot back to WinMo and it should be alright. If it isn't, look for another way, but completely draining your battery should not be the method of choice.
nobody said to drain it copletely, just till winmo dies, which should be fine. I do this once every couple of months by accident, and have never had a problem. I agree that you should not drain the battery completely though, so, make sure as soon as winmo dies, plug in to a charger.
what rom are you running? I am using shubcraft 1.5 and mine charges to 99% And I can get a full day out of my battery with pretty decent use.
Are you using setcpu cause that could have a major impact also do you have wifi,gps or bt on. I know gps has been known to cause some major drain while in sleep mode.
There is also a thread where people are trying to find solutions to the high amount of drain in the development forum.
We use current widget to create a log and monitor Our drain. You should be seeing less than 10ma while sleep I usually see between 3-7ma while sleep
Funny how when you are watching your battery it drains faster. When you are watching the clock time goes slower.
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thank you dipdap i will try that
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You can look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
It was very helpful for me to identify how much current is being used while in sleep mode and active.
Download "current widget" from market and monitor your current supply for 30 minutes during your phone's screen is off.
Yeah with the screen off you cant see any thing but thankfully the log will be written for the current widget every min.
If your current comes out to be bellow 10ma during this time then you are doing good and should last you one day of usage else you need to pinpoint what is drinking all the juice even while your phone sleeps
Read the thread ALL OF IT, it will help you understand better.
Cheers.
alright thanks for all the help guys, the battery drain actually worked although i felt strange doing it, but still my android life isn't so great, i would love for it to work completely though because the only wquivalent option on my carrier is the Captivate (Galaxy S) and that thing is ugly compared to the HD2
such problem
I have such problem with battery drain under WM, after i run and quit android, but i found a solution, just pull out your battery few times next just recharge it and it will be OK .
I've had this phone for a while, and i just haven't been using it the past, ohh year? I tried a while back to fix it, and I know it's something to do with my phone/it's battery, It can stay in standby for about 26 hours, (no wifi, no sim card), but any phone call or wifi use lasting over ~5 minutes and the phone dies, but the phone reports that it still has about 30% battery left as it's shutting off!
Is it possible my phone isnt allowing my battery to charge fully?
I remember reading somewhere about the phone storing battery stats? I wanted to give fixing my battery one last try before I break down and order a new one :/
it's running CyanogenMod-4.2.15.1 (firmware 1.6)
so it has whatever ancient recovery comes with that, I would upgrade my phone but I don't trust it not to die during a flash and brick it.
To sum up the wall of text, my battery is dying from 80% in <5 minutes when not plugged in, and it dies when it says it has approx 20% battery left.
The battery is also sort of bulgey, perhaps, it's like 5/4 the size it should be? 9/8? , it makes a tiny bit of a bulge appear on the keyboard too.
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The recover has a green carebear with a nexus one logo on his (her?) tummy. RA-dream-v1.6.2
Same problem on official 1.6 rom + root. Battery or charging problem?
Certifiably battery here, i tried with my dad's battery and it seems okay, but i'm not entirely sure because i didnt have my sim card in it to test its usage lifespan
My G1 has terrible battery life, even when I'm not using it, I think the best solution is to buy a new battery
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Yes I'm agree with AndyFox2011 view.Purchase a new battery .
Hm. SHould i get this battery:
http://www.amazon.com/Li-lon-Battery-HTC-G1-Google/dp/B001ZTZ92E/ref=pd_bxgy_cps_img_c
Or this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Extended-Capa..._1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1316633929&sr=1-2
or this one?I've heard more about this one than others I'm hesitant though, because i love having the hard cases on my phone, and i'm not sure it would fit
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innoce..._1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1316634086&sr=1-3
or is there another low cost ($20 or less) battery that you would recommend?
I'm no expert, but I'd go for one of the extended batteries, they'll last a,bit longer than a normal one
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You should down the brightness.