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warning: shoddy touchscreen -- phone unusable

This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.

get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.

netter159 said:
get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.
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zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.

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As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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It sounds like something you flashed screwed up your PDS partition. If you have a backup of it, try restoring it.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649

elementaldragon said:
.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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Can't you reflash your phone and relock it?

got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.

zeotrope said:
got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.
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Looks like it's time for a vacation to the states.

As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!

coolnow said:
As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...

jgc121 said:
The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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i use the 1.3 ghz kernel because between my 5 screens full of widgets and my live wallpaper, the 1.1 ghz kernel caused me to have a slight lag after changing screens. 1.3 ghz kernel gives me a completely smooth experience, no lag anywhere. my phone doesn't overheat either which happened in earlier versions of the kernel.

jgc121 said:
The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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Sounds great! Will probably take the plunge next week or sooner, just itching to try it! I'm used to the fingerprint unlock for ages now, don't know if it will feel the same without it (for now!) Battery life on Motoblur crap is not good for me, although it has constant 3g and Wifi at home with sync 24/7 and i do heavily use it. Actually, scratch that, the battery is still awesome for how much i use it!

coolnow said:
As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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if your cousin is happy with the phone then i'm happy for him. but i didn't have a good experience with it. all i'm doing is sharing my thoughts, no need to get defensive.
i also experienced this weird grey ring that appears about 1mm away from the screen. it has steadily gotten worse over the last 3 months.
tried the PDS partition fix, didn't do anything. thanks for the suggestion though.

zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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Nice story. Thanks for sharing.

Good bye
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ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.

zeotrope said:
ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.
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Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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slimslim said:
Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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no need to get so emotional. my atrix is crap. i'm letting people know that some of these phones have an issue. it's probably a small percentage, but they should be wary if they are getting it with no warranty. i'm trying to help people out.
i'm not sure why it matters so much to you. if yours works fine then i'm happy for you. but i had a lot of issues and other people have as well.

The issue with the touchscreen going wonky is caused by a corrupt PDS partition. There's a thread with a PDS image that you can fastboot over to your phone if you didn't back up your PDS partition.
Happened to me when I was jumping around from ROM to ROM constantly. Lost use of the capacitive buttons and the touchscreen was completely uncalibrated. To make your life easier, just don't sbf back and lose your software unlock. I was not able to fastboot to the PDS after sbf until I did the unlock again even though my phone was already unlocked.
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S III died yesterday

Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?

awww sorry to hear that , i am sure its covered in warranty

I don't understand the warranty thing, if the phone is dead and not due to you installing a Rom or kernel or modding it then can't really see any reason to refuse fixing or replacing it.
If however it was because of the reason that you did install things then I can see how the warranty is void.
Hope you get it seen to
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In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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i don't know where you live but i'm pretty sure rooting is not illegal anywhere it just voids your warranty. removing the simlock is an entirely different story

Has happened to me too, 1 week after purchase (got stuck on the Samsung Galaxy SIII on boot). Got mine replaced right there and then but i'm left wondering about the quality of the phone. I get it that there are always problems with every product but i see so many people reporting the same lately i start thinking it may be chronic. Some component failing or some batch where something went wrong..
Sorry to hear that, they are an absolute pain in the ass with warranty in my country. They didn't even want to replace mine because the dude was claiming the back of my phone was slightly scratched (i wasn't, even) and they are quite anal about modded phones but, wish you the best of lucks!

Jcossack88 said:
In 2013, rooting won't be illegal. Too bad it happened to your device, that is just bad luck.
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Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?

exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!

ch0ka said:
Could you please be a little bit more precise? Is this a rumor or a new law to get passed?
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It is for the US, YMMV. Droid Life Article/

budx said:
exaclty the same happened to me. just in the middle of the day i realized that my sg3 was off. tried to turn it on but it didnt react. later at home i tried to charge but had the same bad result.
my biggest problem was, that it was rooted and running on a custom firmware since they tell you at every point, that you lose your warranty doing that...
after several hours of trying / searching and reading i became sure, that it would be an hardware fault and sent it to a local cellphone-support center.
they needed about 2 weeks to find out the problem, order a new main board, fix it and luckily didnt care about my custom firmware. they even updated it to the latest offical 4.1!
2 day ago i got it back and became happy - in this 2 weeks i realized how much i depend on this little thing
soo... i feel with you on this and good luck!
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Thanks!
This is actually what I´m thinking... that the motherboard died... I just hope that tomorrow or on wednesday, I will at least get informed what is wrong with it... Don´t even dare to think how long it will take to have it again... And yes... I depend on it too!!! Maybe even too much!!! LOL

spotlight79 said:
Hi guys!
Just wanted to share my pain, hope you won´t mind...
This is what happened:
Yesterday I came home from work, pulled my S3 out of my pocket and saw it was turned off. I tried to turn it on, but no luck. The phone was dead! Tried pulling the battery out, leaving it alone for more than 10 mins... tried to boot it into recovery - nothing. Tried the download mode - no signs of life at all. It was just a shiny brick! Putting it on charger didn´t help. No reaction, no led flashing, NOTHING! And just half an hour before everything was fine.
I was running the latest official AOKP build the last couple of days, so I really don´t believe that the software has something to do with it since I didn´t flash anything yesterday. The other question is now if the Samsung guys will notice that the phone wasn´t running stock software and that the warranty is actually void... I hope they won´t! But if they too won´t be able to turn it on, I guess they won´t!
I took the phone to the Samsung service center this morning and didn´t receive any feedback yet. As soon as I know something I´ll share it.
Did anyone happen something similar to this?
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Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS

Mine completely died just about 2 weeks ago, stock rom but rooted. Dropped it off at a service centre and got it back today with a shiny new motherboard (and JB)... As long as it's properly dead, they can't tell what's on it as the only way to revive it is to change the innards.
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nhariamine said:
Stop flashing whatever roms you don't know ,or u will suffer a sever consequence "i'm talking about hard brick" .READ FORUMS AND TUTORIALS
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Dude, I´m not a noob, what happened has nothing to do with software.

I entirely accept that this is a generalism and as such is bound to attract a hoard of punters contradicting it, but in many years on these boards I can recall few if any instances where repairs have been refused due to the installation of non-standard ROMs. It is sensible for manufacturers to discourage the practice - XDA-Developers is plagued with ill-informed noobs charging off to do things beyond their technical capabilities without doing adequate research - but I suspect a refusal to play the game would be counterproductive.
That said, I would always be inclined to revert back to a stock ROM and clean up a bit if I had the option before doing a return for repair.

its the same thing that happened to my phone running cm10 about 2 days ago.
sent my phone in for repairs to samsung. they probably won't be able to find out it was modified. probably needs to change hardware to even boot the phone up.
disappointing experience. :/

by any means, did you played with the clock levels?
oc/uc?

Jcossack88 said:
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It's not illegal. You won't go to prison or even get sued (Android is not Apple). It just void your warranty.
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just got back my phone.
They fixed it even though I rooted & had custom rom installed.
Guess they couldn't tell as the phone couldn't even start up. hahah.
Now restoring the latest nandroid I had.

Nice to here that pal, hope this will not happen to anyone in future... this is my 2nd GS 3 (first broken due to Barca loss vs Madrid in August) and never had hardware problems.

So... here I am again...
Got my phone back yesterday. And it was the motherboard so they replaced it.
Man was I happy to have my phone back! But... my hapiness didn't last long.
When I came home I had to discover that now the gyroscope is not working. No autorotate whatsoever, no games that require the accelerometer...
Means they just replaced the mother board, flashed the latest firmware but didn't bother to test the device.
So tomorrow I'm going back to the service center and I'm going to yell my soul out at whoever responsible...
Unbelievable!
(screen rotation is checked, I tried calibrating the gyro, pulling out the battery, etc...)
This is such a disappointing experience... I'll think twice before buying a Samsung phone again...

Rant: HTC's Awesome Repair Service

First off this is going to be a rant so if you guys do not want to read it then I suggest you leave now.
Also let me just clear things up, I am a 17 year old kid that needs his phone as much as possible. I am attached and I am not scared to admit it. I am very very tech savvy and know what I am doing with my phone in terms of flashing ROM's,kernels, recoveries, and rooting. I have been on androids side for over 5 years now and have been through almost every top end device. I have bricked one tablet in my past but noted to never do that again. I pay for all of my devices and work 2 jobs to counter my technology habit.
Story: One night I flashed a CM nightly as I am a pure stock android type of guy. Everything went through fine and I had a usable phone for the next few hours before I fell asleep. At about 4 in the morning I got a text and it woke me up. I went to check it and realized that my phone was incredibly hot so I figured that I would turn it off and turn it back on in about 10 minutes after it is all cooled off and then diagnose the problem. Before shutting off I also checked my battery stats with everything checking out just fine and the battery was sitting at about 65% charged. After the 10 minutes I went to turn on the phone and realized right off the bat that the charging LED was not on. Scared I tried every button combination to turn on the phone with no luck. I tried numerous chargers including my computer to even see if I could adb flash something onto it if it was software oriented with no avail. I officially had a paperweight of a phone and it wouldnt turn on nor charge.
So very frustrated and worried I contacted HTC support via online chat at about 6 my time which is 8 their time. The lady walked me through all the simple button combinations and even though I knew it would do me no good I tried them anyways. After several frustrating minutes we both gave up and the lady was starting to take about 5 minutes in between each response so after the 3 response or so I was even more frustrated. We decide to sign me up for a repair and about half way through the process she asks my age, given I am 17 she cannot finish the process which is understandable. However, this should be one of the very first starting questions rather than down the line when we are half way through the process. I digress, she tells me to call with an adult next time and also tells me about their other 2 repair options that she failed to even mention before, another very frustrating moment. Regardless we end the chat and I call back later.
A few hours later my mother calls HTC support to see what we can do and right off the bat this lady is so much more helpful and quick with her responses really knowing what she is talking about. She covers the other 2 options the person via chat failed to cover along with going very in depth as to how each process works. A $20 option seemed to suit me the best as they send you a phone immediately after receiving your phone sort of like a straight exchange. However, she tells us (My mother and I) that since HTC is running out on parts that this option isnt available at this time and to check back tomorrow as that's when the shipment of parts is coming in. So with our hands tied we hang up and I go about my day phoneless.
Fast forward to today, I go and get a loaner phone from tmobile along with a different sim. They charge me $50 dollars which will be refunded to me once I return the phone but mind you I don't have tons of money so this is an inconvenience. I call HTC again and ask them about their $20 swap option and the guy very enthusiastic gives me the description on how it works. After hearing all this I tell him that is indeed what I want to do and then that's when he tells me that bad news: HTC doesn't have enough inventory to do so leaving me with only one option, send in the phone and wait for the repair and shipping back (10-14 day process). Frustrated and running out of options (literally) I tell him to just do that. He goes over a ton of information in a short amount of time and then emphasizes that they have a very strict warranty and that if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email. I finally hang up but am on the edge at this point. If they cannot fix my phone for free I am going to be pissed. It will also mean that they will never receive my service again because I know for a fact that I did not cause this. A thread was made about this same exact problem so I know it wasnt a fault on my end. Regardless, I will keep you all updated.
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.

mj23kb24 said:
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.
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What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?

redpoint73 said:
What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?
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I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.

mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.
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Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
"...if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email."
Overclocking at all will reduce the life span. Which I'm not saying you have, but it's pretty much common practice around here. (I certainly have)
Maybe you should take the warning it gives you about unlocking your phone more seriously. And not blame HTC for wanting to fix a problem you caused.

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Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
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I guess so. I just figured that many other HTC phones have had this problem in the past (Including the M8) so it was just something on their end.
Also I have never OC'ed but have UC'ed.

mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
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Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.

Mhm, stuff like this is a large part of why they try to lock phones down in the first place.
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redpoint73 said:
Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.
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Will do man thanks. Many people have brought up points on here that I was tunnel visioned too. I do still think that it was a rare hardware fluke though.

Thread closed as these are classed as off topic threads,
Many thanks,
Ghost

Moto X exploded

Phone was sitting turned off on my night stand and this is what I come home to.

Ouch! Looks like the battery swelled a bit!

perfoliate said:
Ouch! Looks like the battery swelled a bit!
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Getting the run around from Motorola, they say its physical damage which voids the warranty and they are not sure they will replace it. This is a replacement for my original which was defective but the warranty should have transferred to this one. They say they will get back to me in 24 hours after someone higher up looks at the pics I sent in. I don't use it any more as I bought an iPhone 6 and went to the dark side but they still need to replace it.

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Getting the run around from Motorola, they say its physical damage which voids the warranty and they are not sure they will replace it. [...]
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I'd say from the pics it seems obvious the damage came from the inside, where user damage most often comes from the outside.

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I'd say from the pics it seems obvious the damage came from the inside, where user damage most often comes from the outside.
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Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...

fury683 said:
Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...
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Since it is a Developer Edition unlocking the boootloader is covered in the warranty (hence the higher price).
Overclocking a device should never make the battery cook/explode. My guess is the damage was not inflicted bij an exploding X8 SOC.

kzoodroid said:
Phone was sitting turned off on my night stand and this is what I come home to.
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Was it charging?

The only thing that would have caused that is a failed battery. It appears to have puffed up to extreme levels.
Better then bursting into flames at least...

I'm glad at least it didn't caught on fire and burn down your house.

Drew66 said:
Was it charging?
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No it was turned off for a week and sitting on a table.

fury683 said:
Users can cause damage on the inside. This is a Developer Edition, so it could be unlocked, rooted, overclocked, etc. Just saying...
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It's fully stock except for the unlocked bootloader and as have stated previously it was turned off and disconnected from the charger just sitting on a table.

marco_ said:
Since it is a Developer Edition unlocking the boootloader is covered in the warranty (hence the higher price).
Overclocking a device should never make the battery cook/explode. My guess is the damage was not inflicted bij an exploding X8 SOC.
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The issues tech support were having last night are: 1). this is a replacement phone for my original which had cell radio issues and they weren't sure the original 1 year warranty transferred over to this one 2). physical damage voids the warranty as they assume it's caused by the user dropping it 3.) they've never heard of a battery exploding when the phone was turned off and not charging. Having the phone in hand its obviously it's from an exploded battery I offered to send it in to them so they can verify this. I was told I would hear back in 24 hours as to if they will cover it under warranty once someone higher up looked at the pics I sent in.

Kinda worried about mine doing the same. I have a dev edition as well and over time the phone's back has developed a few bulges and feels uneven to the touch. Hopefully it doesn't actually explode though. I'm not too interested in changing phones again.

Been almost 48 hours since I contacted customer support and still no word back on if they are going to cover it under warranty. If I get a replacement I'm going to sell it as I got the new iPhone 6 and am happy with it and I still have a Nexus 4 to play around with.

Hey maybe you could do us current x owners a solid and donate it to someone on the PA legacy team so we could get official PA builds. Pretty please

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Hey maybe you could do us current x owners a solid and donate it to someone on the PA legacy team so we could get official PA builds. Pretty please
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He'll need to send the phone in. They don't take your word it's broke and just send you a new device. ?

KJ said:
He'll need to send the phone in. They don't take your word it's broke and just send you a new device. ?
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Yea I meant send them the new phone since he won't be using it lol.

fakieskr8333 said:
Yea I meant send them the new phone since he won't be using it lol.
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Ah! I somehow doubt that's happening. ?

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Ah! I somehow doubt that's happening. ?
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I didn't have high hopes but I thought it was worth a shot lol. Hopefully he can get it straightened out soon. It's a good thing he has another phone to use, I'd be pissed if I was phoneless this long.

Three days later and still no answer back so I contacted them again and this time got it moved to repairs escalation reports who are closed on weekends. Tech support guys on chat keep saying well that's physical damage and voids the warranty and you have to pay for repairs. The one I talked to today actually said batteries are only covered if it explodes on first few charges. WTF? Three days ago I offered to send the phone to them to verify its an exploded battery but they said no the pictures were enough. If I had bought this through a carrier I would've had a new phone by now, Verizon always replaced my defective phones on the first call no questions asked.

Bootloop issue on Nexus 6P

There was an article today on xda that talked about a class action lawsuit against LG because multiple phones they make are going into a boot loop of death--sound familiar? The problem is defective solder that can't withstand the heat the phone generates and, over time, separates a connection to the motherboard. The problem with the 6P is almost certainly the exact same. That means there is likely nothing a 6P owner can ultimately do to prevent the boot loop of death from eventually happening to their phone. The simple act of charging the phone with the quick charge function makes the phone quite warm. On top of that (for those on stock) since the January OTA Google has been defaulting the stock kernel settings to those for high performance, which not only is causing battery drain that some users have been complaining about but also makes the phones run much warmer. This means the 6P will likely die even faster.
For some of us this was a 600-700 phone purchased new and (mine is a 128gig model) and for that money, it's not unreasonable to expect a phone to last for longer than 12-18 months, which is probably going to turn out to be the ultimate lifespan for these things.
I'm curious if anybody else has any thoughts on this situation. To my mind, both Google and Huawei knew that these phones were defective and should have recalled them. Instead, they are riding out the warranty and when the phone inevitably breaks telling owners that they are SOL.
Does anyone think it would be worthwhile for Nexus 6P owners to file a class action lawsuit against Google and Huawei or do you think it would be a waste of time? Are you OK buying a supposedly premium phone that likely won't last a full two years?

jhs39 said:
There was an article today on xda that talked about a class action lawsuit against LG because multiple phones they make are going into a boot loop of death--sound familiar? The problem is defective solder that can't withstand the heat the phone generates and, over time, separates a connection to the motherboard. The problem with the 6P is almost certainly the exact same. That means there is likely nothing a 6P owner can ultimately do to prevent the boot loop of death from eventually happening to their phone. The simple act of charging the phone with the quick charge function makes the phone quite warm. On top of that (for those on stock) since the January OTA Google has been defaulting the stock kernel settings to those for high performance, which not only is causing battery drain that some users have been complaining about but also makes the phones run much warmer. This means the 6P will likely die even faster.
For some of us this was a 600-700 phone purchased new and (mine is a 128gig model) and for that money, it's not unreasonable to expect a phone to last for longer than 12-18 months, which is probably going to turn out to be the ultimate lifespan for these things.
I'm curious if anybody else has any thoughts on this situation. To my mind, both Google and Huawei knew that these phones were defective and should have recalled them. Instead, they are riding out the warranty and when the phone inevitably breaks telling owners that they are SOL.
Does anyone think it would be worthwhile for Nexus 6P owners to file a class action lawsuit against Google and Huawei or do you think it would be a waste of time? Are you OK buying a supposedly premium phone that likely won't last a full two years?
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You can try.
I'm in because I had to RMA my phone with a blank screen.
Paid the deductible to get it replaced.

tech_head said:
You can try.
I'm in because I had to RMA my phone with a blank screen.
Paid the deductible to get it replaced.
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I wouldn't know where to start and don't know any lawyers. But I seriously doubt that very many 6Ps will still be running by the time they are two years old. Shortly after a year seems to be when it's happening for a lot of people. I baby my phone but I still expect it to be dead by fall because my warranty expires in July. Currently I'm on Project Fi, which I like. That means I'll either have to buy a Pixel which is overpriced and apparently very difficult to root and mod or switch to another carrier so I can get something like a One Plus which is easy to root and mod and has a vibrant developer community. I'm not happy that I spent so much on this phone and it likely won't last two years. I have much older, far cheaper smartphones that still function fine. My Galaxy 3 still works perfectly. But this phone was apparently built like crap and nobody seems to want to hold Google and Huawei responsible for that.

Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.

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Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.
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do you think google have a solution for this big brob with flash because in my contry we don t have warranty

Az_Biker said:
Not sure where this will go, but I'm a 6P owner and watching the situation closely in these places:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=230848
https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
So far I'm good. But it happens suddenly much of the time.
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Hello...
You can also follow this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
By the way... Every week there are new users reporting the same issue. I don't count those who also open new threads in Q/A section...
This is getting crazy. Seeing LG is now sued, it gives at least some hope that something will be done with Huawei.
How much people have a nice brick now?! And Google/Huawei who tell them since their warranty ended a few days/weeks/months ago, they won't fix their device. Though some had exceptions and have had their device replaced/repaired, others pay for a motherboard replacement. A Device that already costed them 700$ or more and now the repair!
Also some people kept harassing Google/Huawei because the first person they called didn't accept to replace/repair their device. They tried again and after 2 or 3 calls they finally successed! Isn't it crazy?! Like if you give up at first try, you're just fuxxed...
Though with all this, you're not even sure it won't fail anymore. As they didn't acknowledge the issue, nor they did state they took measures to fix the problem...
I haven't experienced the issue yet, but the phone is exactly one year old. My wife uses it now since i upgraded. It's just boring to backup photos every few days, fearing it suddenly breaks!
They deserve a little punishment in my opinion. :angel:

leroilion02 said:
do you think google have a solution for this big brob with flash because in my contry we don t have warranty
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I'd like to think that Huawei/Google would step up and at least offer a 50% disc on new device or 50% refund on bricked 6Ps. Anything other than, SORRY, it's out of warranty (even though thousands of devices are having the same issue)...
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Hello...
You can also follow this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/boot-loop-death-nexus-6p-t3533528
By the way... Every week there are new users reporting the same issue. I don't count those who also open new threads in Q/A section...
This is getting crazy. Seeing LG is now sued, it gives at least some hope that something will be done with Huawei.
How much people have a nice brick now?! And Google/Huawei who tell them since their warranty ended a few days/weeks/months ago, they won't fix their device. Though some had exceptions and have had their device replaced/repaired, others pay for a motherboard replacement. A Device that already costed them 700$ or more and now the repair!
Also some people kept harassing Google/Huawei because the first person they called didn't accept to replace/repair their device. They tried again and after 2 or 3 calls they finally successed! Isn't it crazy?! Like if you give up at first try, you're just fuxxed...
Though with all this, you're not even sure it won't fail anymore. As they didn't acknowledge the issue, nor they did state they took measures to fix the problem...
I haven't experienced the issue yet, but the phone is exactly one year old. My wife uses it now since i upgraded. It's just boring to backup photos every few days, fearing it suddenly breaks!
They deserve a little punishment in my opinion. :angel:
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Thanks. It would be nice if companies were held to some quality of manufacture law for things like this that happen after the warranty period. It's as if they think "we only have to make it last ONE YEAR, then it can fall apart after the warranty is over"... When thousands of devices are having similar issues, that's not just a coincidence!

Az_Biker said:
I'd like to think that Huawei/Google would step up and at least offer a 50% disc on new device or 50% refund on bricked 6Ps. Anything other than, SORRY, it's out of warranty (even though thousands of devices are having the same issue)...
Thanks. It would be nice if companies were held to some quality of manufacture law for things like this that happen after the warranty period. It's as if they think "we only have to make it last ONE YEAR, then it can fall apart after the warranty is over"... When thousands of devices are having similar issues, that's not just a coincidence!
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It always reminds me of the Samsung TVs case: https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-settlement-warrants-older-tvs-with-faulty-capacitors/
They accepted to fix the faulty units and extended the warranty. If you read the post till the end though, this is the best part:
"Samsung officially denies the complaints in the suit"
Although they denied their TVs having a problem, they knew they would loose sooner or later. So they just they settled the lawsuit to avoid further costs. This is no rocket science...
For me, this is called programmed obsolescence. A technic widely used by almost all electronic devices manufacturers these days. Huawei should replace faulty motherboards. No matter how old those are! And extend the warranty on the new hardware.
Cheers...

It feels like i paid for a Premium brick costing 700 dollars!

Well, I too, am in the bootloop of death club... Here's my story if anyone wants a read.
https://plus.google.com/117402788701749987746/posts/5y5PNrvg3fN
Guess I'll try my luck with Huawei and see what they say.

jhs39 said:
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Sounds as if it is beginning: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
See also:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/14/google-may-sued-nexus-6p-early-shutdown-bootloop-issues/

So I just got off the phone with Huawei and unfortunately I am 4 months out of warranty. Said I can send it in to fix it and they'll let me know how much its gonna cost. I am so pissed right now. This is ridiculous. They're blaming the latest 7.1.2 update from Google and how it's not just the 6p it's affecting...hmmm Who's telling the truth?

treezy26 said:
So I just got off the phone with Huawei and unfortunately I am 4 months out of warranty. Said I can send it in to fix it and they'll let me know how much its gonna cost. I am so pissed right now. This is ridiculous. They're blaming the latest 7.1.2 update from Google and how it's not just the 6p it's affecting...hmmm Who's telling the truth?
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Read this post. Follow the link and read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
Also... No need to post the same message three times
Cheers...

5.1 said:
Read this post. Follow the link and read: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71860686&postcount=706
Also... No need to post the same message three times
Cheers...
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I have seen this and going to look into it further.
Also... I posted it 5 times, just in different threads...:silly:

treezy26 said:
Also... I posted it 5 times, just in different threads...:silly:
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Spam?

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Spam?
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You call it spam, I call it desperate...

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You call it spam, I call it desperate...
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I understand you. Even though I haven't got the issue yet and since my wife takes a lot of pics with (my ex) her N6P, i have to backup up almost every day. Doing this since the beginning of this issue. It's really boring.
I wish you luck! Try contacting Huawei again. Hopefully you'll talk to another tech who'll acknowledge the issue and will repair/replace.your phone. Don't give up!.
Or else, fill the lawyer's survey! :good:
PS: Huawei blamed first 7.0 update, then 7.1 and now 7.1.2. lol...
Good luck...

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I understand you. Even though I haven't got the issue yet and since my wife takes a lot of pics with (my ex) her N6P, i have to backup up almost every day. Doing this since the beginning of this issue. It's really boring.
I wish you luck! Try contacting Huawei again. Hopefully you'll talk to another tech who'll acknowledge the issue and will repair/replace.your phone. Don't give up!.
Or else, fill the lawyer's survey! :good:
PS: Huawei blamed first 7.0 update, then 7.1 and now 7.1.2. lol...
Good luck...
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Well I was so frustrated that I went ahead and ask them to go ahead and send me the stuff needed to send it back. Hopefully whenever it gets there, I can speak with someone else and talk them into fixing it for free. Thanks.

treezy26 said:
Well I was so frustrated that I went ahead and ask them to go ahead and send me the stuff needed to send it back. Hopefully whenever it gets there, I can speak with someone else and talk them into fixing it for free. Thanks.
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Ah...
Keep harassing them until they repair/replace your device free of charge!
Good luck...

Add Me to the growing list
Yep, my 6p- Aluminum 32GB phone had the problem. Same issue plaguing others too, infinite bootloop. Android Recovery Mode doesn't fix it, nothing does.
I sent it to Huawei on 3/10/17 and its now 4/14/17 and they still haven't given me back the phone. The message they give me is "the phone is fixed and is just waiting to be shipped"..... yeah sure I have been told this 4 time since 3/24/17, an ETA please? No, no ETA. You start to get suspicious the second time around and downright furious on the 3rd......and 4th time 21 FREAKING DAYS LATER. Had it escalated today 4/14/17. Hoping for the best:laugh::laugh:yeah no I'm not. Lawsuit time?