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Android -> Jelly Bean

I was looking around and found the Google plans to release Jelly Bean (5.0) in November of this year! So my question is, will the Cyangen(Mod) developers make this available for our Epic 4g. And also what new features will it feature? There's a rumor we will have an official personal assistant in the OS.
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0

Give it some time
Don't be so impatient
We'll know eventually
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I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0

Can you provide the site or doc you got this from
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2348z said:
I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0
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A Leak? Google hasn't even said anything publicly about it yet and your asking for a leak? lol. ICS barely handles on our phone, are phones have 360Mb of Ram after everything said and done but ICS requires 400Mb so were sliding along. Jelly Bean unless its less aggressive but doesn't require as much RAM as ICS, we wont be able to run it. Your talking about extremely new technology and software trying to handle the latest and greatest on older tech.
Put in terms of Trying to Run Win7 (PC) with only 256Mb of Ram, and 1.2GHz Single Core Processor Never going to happen lol.

Wouldnt you have upgraded to a new phone by November anyway? Maybe not but the majority of us will and i dont cyanogenmod would support a phone that would be nearly dead by the time of jelly bean. Our phones are lucky enough to run ICS.
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I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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Zeinzu said:
I have 383MB of RAM. But I agree that ICS itself should be more than enough to hold everyone over till upgrade time.
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if you go into TW task manager and look at ram it should say whatever amount your using and be exactly 359Mb im on Ginger Bread so im not exactly sure ICS is the same but how could you possibly have more? lol.
But if and ever Jelly Bean were to successfully be ported to this phone then it will hold up to its name be "EPIC"! The way i see it if the Samsung galaxy 3 or 5 can have ICS and run it most likely than this phone should handle more you'd think? it would be the only phone that would say it had 5 major OS Updates haha and kept alive even when considered old Tech.

ICS was just released...why would it be leaked? I don't think that kinda stuff gets leaked anyway.
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Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Zeinzu said:
Flash cm9, go into manage apps, running, do the math for yourself.
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Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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ICS is barely chugging along on our phones. You would be sacrificing serious usability if the jelly bean was ported. ICS runs smooth, most of the time, but its clear that the epic is right on the edge.
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Jelly Bean and Cyanogenmod
I believe that once Jelly Bean gets dropped, if Cyanogen supports it there is a possibility we could get it. I had the original G1 running Cyanogen6 on it and that was long after the official updates stopped from Google/TMo. I mean if they can get Froyo on a device that stopped getting updates at Doughnut, I believe they can get some Jelly on a Gingerbread. This is just an opinion though. Either way I am fine with my ICS on my Epic.

2348z said:
I am patient, just wanted to know if anyone had a leak
I won't even bother reading what others have said about this statement. Your asking about a leak when you yourself stated this MAY be released in November. You sir, are an idiot.
-2348z Epic 4G-> CM9 Beta0
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b16flybye said:
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I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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Frostacious said:
I believe he's asking for a leak of data.
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That's what I thought he meant too. As in leaked info about Jelly Bean in general.
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JBakey said:
Don't forget that the stock b0 cm9 kernel freed up an extra 36 mb of ram.
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If you wanna get technical that's the RAM left on the build. The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it? The extra 36MB didn't magically appear out of thin air, it had to already physically be there to begin with.
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Zeinzu said:
The device itself physically has 512MB of RAM doesn't it?
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That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?

DCRocks said:
That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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I believe it that is storage space not RAM. Our phones are supposed to have 512 mb of ram. I am not 100 percent sure where you would find that actual break down though.
edit: the 676 megabytes under storage is the data partition. This is how much space you have to store apps on your internal storage. My guess is you would have to get some kind of ram manager in order to see the actual memory allocation.
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DCRocks said:
That was my thought. Is there a place where I can see a breakdown of the full 512mb?
Reason I ask, is under menu > manage apps> All, it lists 184mb used and 493mb free, and unless my math has gone screwy, that adds to 677mb which is more than 512mb
Also, under menu > system settings> storage, under apps, it shows total of 676mb, with 180mb used.
What gives??? Is this all due to the file system conversion to MTD?
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Those two parts are both listing internal storage space.
MTD conversion resized the partitions so storage has ~677MB.
Back to RAM.
There is 512MB total. On stock Epic drivers and kernel configs, ~165MB is dedicated to system space(kernel/driver/phone os) leaving ~347MB to user space (app memory).
Our cm devs have found out how to free up 36MB from the system by merging Nexus S drivers and sacrificing 1080p video playback (kinda overkill on a 800x480 screen anyway)
And tweaking some jpeg lib for another 1.9MB.
So right now we have ~384MB available in ICS.
And its still possible (AFAIK) to free up another ~32MB with the move to 3.0.x kernel (further merging with Nexus S base).
I think the 400MB(user space) requirement is for reaching the intended performance for ICS multi tasking.
I might not be 100% correct though.
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[REQUEST] Multiwindow fot the Galaxt Tab 2 7"

Guys Galaxy NOTE 1st generation and 2nd generation both have the multiwindow function. In the latest release Samsung even made it available for the Galaxy S3. Its time someone develops the same or ports it for the users of the Galaxy Tab 2!!

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Guys Galaxy NOTE 1st generation and 2nd generation both have the multiwindow function. In the latest release Samsung even made it available for the Galaxy S3. Its time someone develops the same or ports it for the users of the Galaxy Tab 2!!
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That would be cool..
But can our graphic card "SGX540" handle multiwindow?

akshayjoshi1993 said:
That would be cool..
But can our graphic card "SGX540" handle multiwindow?
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i think the graphic isn't the problem ...
we need devs to work on it
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jasonchauhk said:
i think the graphic isn't the problem ...
we need devs to work on it
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I guess so.
coz all the GUI is taken care by the GPU.
and making it to do multiwindow will increase stress on it.
even adreno 205 scores better than SGX540.
may be we need to overclock our gpu for a decent performance.
devs.... we need you.

Take a look at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2081801

jaydyan said:
Take a look at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2081801
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i'm using Sungsonic HD too, that rom is near perfect.

viktorlucky said:
i'm using Sungsonic HD too, that rom is near perfect.
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Does it have fully functional multiwindow??

Can this mode work in CM ?
Hey guys.. can this multiwindow work in CM 10.1 ?

Daxmaxwale said:
Hey guys.. can this multiwindow work in CM 10.1 ?
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Never it won't. ...since in note2 cm10.1 also its not there...
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It can only work on samsung touchwiz ui framework, our graphic card surely isn't the problem,
i understand its a bit complicated programming it but we need consistent developer support

I want this too. Realy weird a 7'' 10.1'' not having multi-window

Samsung may include a premium update with these features along or after the 4.1.2 or 4.2.x update. I'm waiting for the similar update on the s3 mini, but knowing Samsung this will take a while with the release of s4.
A large part of these "premium" features that the s2 got along with the 4.1.2 update could work on other Samsung devices like smart stay or smart rotate that are very useful on a tablet that can be used for reading ebooks. All we can do for now is wait.
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4.1.2 is out what are the changelogs? Anything new?
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I did not test the 4.1.2 there is only one release fit India on samfirmware. As far as i know there are no new features, but i read that the overall speed and snappiness of the ui and browser loading speeds are increased.
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HAKANN said:
4.1.2 is out what are the changelogs? Anything new?
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I Installed 4.1.2 today and for me:
-GroupCast App;
-PaperArtist App;
-SmartStay;
-New Gallery App (same as the GNote II one);
-PopUp Play;
-browser is faster and smoother then before...

chintanv5 said:
It can only work on samsung touchwiz ui framework, our graphic card surely isn't the problem,
i understand its a bit complicated programming it but we need consistent developer support
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Lol....if you understand the concept why cant u work it out and release it......
Adi
"I hate beggers those r lazy to work. Hard......."

I think it will be avaiable in 4.2.2 update..
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Me to.
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Let's hope so.
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I guess Samsung wouldn't do a major uipdate without new features...
My Hope:
-Multiwindow,
-Ripple Effect,
-Touchwiz Nature UX 2.0 (GalaxyS4's one)
-Maybe S Voice?
I will be fully satisfacted with Samsung if they do that...
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Bye S1 Community :(

Hello everyone, I feel sad to say this but I have sold my S1 and gotten a S2. I will miss this community a lot...
The S1 community is great and has taught me very valuable information about android.
I will still lurk the S1 forums but not as much as I used to...

alb3rtt said:
Hello everyone, I feel sad to say this but I have sold my S1 and gotten a S2. I will miss this community a lot...
The S1 community is great and has taught me very valuable information about android.
I will still lurk the S1 forums but not as much as I used to...
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We will miss you alot also alb3ertt, thnx 4 your activities and your useful posts in our community.. wishing u best experience with your s2
My Regards
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alb3rtt said:
Hello everyone, I feel sad to say this but I have sold my S1 and gotten a S2. I will miss this community a lot...
The S1 community is great and has taught me very valuable information about android.
I will still lurk the S1 forums but not as much as I used to...
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Will miss your presence here.

good news
android 5 supported older hardware (RAM 512)

5aaled said:
We will miss you alot also alb3ertt, thnx 4 your activities and your useful posts in our community.. wishing u best experience with your s2
My Regards
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ts1506 said:
Will miss your presence here.
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Thanks I miss cyanaosp and cyancore.. hopefully I see you guys over at the s2 forums.
Btw happy birthday ts
There isn't much difference in performance with the s2 compared to the s1. The main difference is that games run smoother and that apps open slightly faster. Ui performance is practically identical.
Also audio quality in the s1 is much better than the s2 but that doesn't bother me that much.
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Good bye bro
I also got a second hand s2 and it was nice but couldn't resist to sell it for a $40 profit and again back to my sgs

I bought a gnex last 2 weeks n was planning to sell this s1. But i dont think to sell my beloved s1 cause of the community and support from devs and users. This community is great hence i still use this s1.
Anyway good luck with your new community.
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what about cpu
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I think s2 is very good choice, bad there is no LTE version :/

you will always in our heart~
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Will miss your presence here.
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khankk42 said:
what about cpu
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The s2 cpu is very powerful. I never feel lag and I have it undervolted so I have great battery life. I can run vice city at max settings (including draw distance) without lag.
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alb3rtt said:
The s2 cpu is very powerful. I never feel lag and I have it undervolted so I have great battery life. I can run vice city at max settings (including draw distance) without lag.
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I'm also planning on getting a S2. Can you recommend me it?
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vlngu118 said:
I'm also planning on getting a S2. Can you recommend me it?
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Well, CM10.1 will never be fully "Stable" until samsung releases the code source for the S2 however it is still extremely stable, it just cannot be officially called stable. I've never had issues with it and no-one really does as well (only the people that **** something up in their system do) but it cannot be called "Stable" by CM until the source is released. Stock samsung (4.1.2) is extremely fast, nice and smooth. They really have improved their stock firmwares and the good thing is that the S2 will get official 4.2.2. (sometime in the future)
There is also another issue that the s2 has and that is that the RIL crashes sometimes on 4.2.2 and 4.1.2 (I've never had it but others have) and it won't be fixed till official 4.2.2 from samsung is released however, using Dorimanx kernel prevents this from happening.
I think that you should get it, just install CM10.1 and Dorimanx kernel and you will see how fast it is compared to the S1.

I won't sell my galaxy s, I learned to flash when it got soft bricked... Taught me to riot and flash so... My first phone and all that...
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huskyT said:
I won't sell my galaxy s, I learned to flash when it got soft bricked... Taught me to riot and flash so... My first phone and all that...
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Galaxy S rocks all time

Bye

Anyone know anything Cyanogenmod for i9500

Hi guys, I am using my oocytes core version for half month and really cool device but lags as hell and battery life is poor I tried many Rom and battery performance not improve much,
I definitely know it's cause by Samsung's unused useless features.
So I would like to have cyanogenmod on my beast. Thanks
But no news about it coming to this $4 vErsion,, I want that bad, it's already available for the lte version.
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95mediatech said:
Hi guys, I am using my oocytes core version for half month and really cool device but lags as hell and battery life is poor I tried many Rom and battery performance not improve much,
I definitely know it's cause by Samsung's unused useless features.
So I would like to have cyanogenmod on my beast. Thanks
But no news about it coming to this $4 vErsion,, I want that bad, it's already available for the lte version.
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Yes I want CyanogenMod too.
The stock custom rom has too many useless features that cause laggy experiences.
Any info about CyanogenMod?

95mediatech said:
Hi guys, I am using my oocytes core version for half month and really cool device but lags as hell and battery life is poor I tried many Rom and battery performance not improve much,
I definitely know it's cause by Samsung's unused useless features.
So I would like to have cyanogenmod on my beast. Thanks
But no news about it coming to this $4 vErsion,, I want that bad, it's already available for the lte version.
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+1 :crying:

For now waiting
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You guys are so lazy. Google "I9500 CYANOGENMOD".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294176

Android 4.4.2 KitKat

What do you think about the new android version. In my opinion, it's great , with better UI( if the leaked photos are true) , less RAM usage and new kernel. What do you think about the S2? Will Samsung update our phone ? In my opinion Samsung will not update the S2 or the Galaxy Ace or Mini...
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No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?

I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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ahmedelhofy said:
I don't thing Samsung will just think about updating the S2
It's an old device, it still an amazing device though
But updating it will not benefit Samsung
So no updates
But we still have AOSP
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Yea,thats true, even if samsung don't update it, the leaked images are showing a cool interface
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-Grift- said:
No they will not update our phone. And im also not too sure about new kernel. We do have dorimanx kernel which is light years ahead of most kernels... We have 3.12.rc1 while the Nexus have 3.4?
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The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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There are rumors that it will support all current devices
It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody.
- Google
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Caproid said:
The only thing is that some sites said about,that they will update S2 along with S3 ,S4, Ace,Mini, Note,Note 2
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I think you may be misunderstanding the sites. They say its possible for 4.4 to run on our device. No updates mentioned.
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Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.

4.4 is made for less ram usage... Some sites say Ace can run it... Ace has 278 mb of RAM
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Caproid said:
4.4 is made for less ram usage...
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Source ?

S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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krazy1101 said:
S2 will run it
Samsung will not update it
Cyanogen will port it
Everithing will be ok except the fact that samsung will not give another update for s2 even 4.2.2 or 4.3 ... why they should think about 4.4?
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4.2.2 and 4.3 are full of bloatware...that's why our s2 can't run it....in fact 4.4 will be slimmer...Most of the sites, say that android 4.4 will be released in October 14, which in my case is tomorrow....
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Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"

Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter if our device still lacks a proper driver. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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What?
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-Grift- said:
Huh I find no issue with 4.2.2, its the best thing yet! We have spent so much time optimzing 4.2.2 that it is so stable and usable. Fast forward to 4.3 which is much newer we have spent much less time on it so for sure it is not as good. However I dont understand which part of either these versions, 4.2.2 or 4.3 is bloated care explaining? Even if Android 4.4 has so called less RAM usage and kernel improvements it would not really matter to us. Take kernel changes for example. We can't just port AOSP code and use it for our devices correct? Remember the time when we only had official 4.0 and 4.1 was released by Google. Everybody wanted Project butter. Due to Sammy not giving us official 4.1 and its source code on time (thank god they actually gave the source code..) we would never have gotten close to full project butter experience which we still lack fully. So if Sammy does not give us what we need then we can use 4.4 without its so called perks like "less RAM usage"
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The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Caproid said:
The bloated versions are Samsung's ones... Pure Android is not bloated
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Yes I know that. But our phone has no problem running 4.2.2 or 4.3 that are AOSP based...... So whats the purpose of this thread anyway.... Cus Sammy has no intention of ever updating this phone to a higher version...

hikarugo said:
Yeah 4.4 should have lower hardware requirements. However, it doesn't matter because our exynos device still lacks proper drivers. That's worsen by the fact that we currently have no Galaxy S2 devs left working on CM to port new android versions to our device
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This OmniRom thing might help when you look at the people running it
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DvWatt said:
Our S2 is getting old.. And i'm not sure that it will can run 4.4 as good as it run 4.2.2.
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Untill now, the S2 is running is able to run 4.3.1 and 100% it will able to run 4.4
Samsung adds a lot of bloatware to their official roms which make the device slow
that's why I never use stock rom

Yea but what about cool features like multi window smart functions and motion ?
If this doesn't mean smth for you .... what about drivers? 4.2/4.3 have a lot of glitches with graphics and cuz samsung dont release exynos source code our beloved s2 will die one day in a near future
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