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[Q] About RAM

This might sound really awkward but, i'm a newbie and im new to gadgets and stuff
So, i was wondering whether i can speed up my G3 by making use of Virtual RAM (If somehow that's possible)
Does more RAM mean more performance?
I've overclocked my G3 to 1.3GHz thanks to Marcellusbe's Kernel but still whenever do multitasking my G3 slows down, Is it because of the fact that G3 has only 256MB RAM?

sorry guys for asking this but i'm somewhat having same issue
I'm running Indroidv5.2 ROM and my RAM usage is insane, i'm only getting 15mb free memory even when I'm browsing. this has happened to me with Kyrillos rom also.
is there any solution for this issue?
plz reply

Try supercharger script

ale_bot said:
Try supercharger script
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i prefer auto memory manager than supercharger.. AMM does d same ..

Ok so try juwe ram script.
Or install a tadk manager with autokill
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How To Get Play as fast as possible

i have an xperia play 16GB sd card running dixperia2 doomkernel v14 launcherpro with ram manager pro at 1.6GHz can anyone tell me the best combination they have had

Best + Stable
Xperia Play 16gb Class 10 SD Card Xperia NXT 1.2 Supercharged 1.4 Ghz Smartass V2 LuPuS GB v5

32Gb class10 sd card with DiXperia2 + removed some systemapps that i dont need (torch,calculator....)+ sick speed tweak+ auto memory manager
+lupus v.5(smartass v2 sio 1500mHz for daily use and for gaming 1700mHz performance sio) = my PLAY is a beast and really no game is laging, i get about 250mb of free ram for gaming.

Sick speed tweak?? Mind sharing??
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+1
I would really like to know what it is.

Well...im not a expert but i also have tried dixperia 2.
But now im with Nxt Light edition 1.3
I only use advanced task killer before playing something hard like FPSE with opengl.
i have 250mb free ram.
Stable overclocked with 1.8ghz but sometimes there will be some crashes like when speeding or lowering clocks, or sometimes FPSE will crash after overclock and you will have just to open it again without issues.
I have a low class SDCard so i havent tried any Swapper.
I dont use ram manager or anything of those silly things but i readed NXT light edition comes with v6 supercharger.
I did some benchmarks ago with 1.7ghz i had better 3D Score but with 1.8ghz i had better CPU score.

Just extract and place in init.d

Source?? I'd like to read more bout it before using it. Thanks.
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Found it some time ago anywhere on xda. If you wanna know more must use google coz cant remember what thread that was, sorry.
But for me its working and it is for xperia phones.
Just found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267945

Right on. The 06sysctl seems like it uses to re-calculate every system ram allocation & refresh them on every use. Nice!!! Snappy snappy snappy. As for the sicktweak its kinda pretty much the same as v6 only less. So to me, the 06sysctl is enough to satisfy ur need. Thanks again.
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+1 again
Love the 06sysctl file, i can already see better performance!
But the other file keeps changing my governor so i deleted it.
Thanks cyraxx.
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No problem guys, i help you and you help me that's the way.

cyraxx84 said:
No problem guys, i help you and you help me that's the way.
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Sorry for the question but... WHAT ARE THE RIGHT PERMISSIONS FOR THE FILES???

romeo_charly said:
Sorry for the question but... WHAT ARE THE RIGHT PERMISSIONS FOR THE FILES???
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Hard to go wrong with init.d files. You can set them to 777, which means ALL access is allowed. Though, technically they should be 755, which is read write exec for owner, read exec for group and read exec for global (or others)

The best way to have a blazing fast xplay is to have debloated stock rom + swapper + ram manager pro + 1.4ghz smartassv2/sio + advanced task killer :good:
I got tired of custom roms and all that stuff, i just installed stock rom and deleted all type of bloatware apps and added a couple of things to make it nicer like walkman player, bravia engine, notification toggles, new boot animation, new xperia launcher and camera app from NXT.
I so love it:laugh:

I'm more interested in best performance + long lasting BATTERY life !
Shed some light ?

icet925 said:
I'm more interested in best performance + long lasting BATTERY life !
Shed some light ?
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It's mostly one or the other, unless you get a bigger battery. Optimization can only go so far

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The thread didn't say, so maybe you might know. Custom ROM/kernel only I assume? I'm on stock, so I don't want to flash this without knowing for sure. Or is one of the two files in the zip possible to use on stock?

Stock does not support init.d. So if u want'em tweak either enable init.d urself or flash any custom rom or kernel that supports init.d script.
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What is smartass v2? Tried searching but the XDA app doesn't always have the best results...
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(INFO)What is zram and how does it work???

I think its better to Post this here,when its not better,than sorry!!!
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Once a brief statement for those who are not traveling so long in the Android scene:
ZRAM = ramzswap = Compcache
In order to explain more precisely ZRAM first need other terms are more clearly defined:
Swap can be compared with the swap file on Windows. If the memory (RAM) to complete the PC the data that are being used not actively outsource (eg background applications) so as to re-evacuate RAM free. To this data is written to a hard disk. If required, this data is then read back from there easily. Even the fastest SSD is slower than the RAM. On Android, there is no swap!
In ZRAM unnecessary storage resources are compressed and then moved to a reserved area in the fixed RAM (ZRAM). So a kind of swap in memory.
This Ram is more free because the data then only about 1/4 of the former storage requirements have. However, the CPU has to work in more because they compress the data has (or unpack again when they are needed). The advantage clearly lies in the speed. Since the swap partition in RAM is much faster than this is a swap partition on a hard drive.
In itself a great thing. But Android does not have a swap partition, and therefore brings Android ZRAM under no performance gain as would be the case with a normal PC.
In normal PC would look like this:
Swap = swap file (on disk) -> Slow
ZRAM (swap in RAM) -> Faster than swap
RAM -> Quick
With Android, there is no swap partition, and therefore brings ZRAM also no performance boost.
The only thing that brings ZRAM is "more" RAM. Compressed by the "enlarged" so to speak of the available memory. That's on devices with little RAM (<256MB) also pretty useful. The S2 has 1GB but the rich, and more than. There must not be artificially pushed up to 1.5 GB.
After you activate the ZRAM also has 2 disadvantages. The encoding and decoding using CPU time, which in turn has higher power consumption.
Roughly one can say (For devices with more than 512MB RAM):
Without ZRAM: + CPU Performance | + Battery | RAM
With ZRAM: CPU Performance |-Battery | + RAM
For devices with too little RAM so it makes perfect sense. But who shoots the S2 already be fully complete RAM and then still need more?
Check whether you can ZRAM runs in the terminal with
free or cat / proc / meminfo
I hope it helps to understand zRam!!!!

Thanks for the info

Yeah thanks indeed for the info - so does this mean that we must have zram disabled because of low memory ?

no its very good for devices with less ram like 289mb and we have less ram,so its useless for higher ram devices with 800-1000,but that can u read in this guide

CALIBAN666 said:
no its very good for devices with less ram like 289mb and we have less ram,so its useless for higher ram devices with 800-1000,but that can u read in this guide
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Yeah i misunderstood thanks for explaining !
But one more doubt - its good for us anyhow if we disable it will we get more free ram ?

in your statement zram is not battery friendly. ? am i correct. ? or not?

Sorry for too many questions mate - am the noobest guy here on xda that is why

not really because the system all the time creates virtual ram and distributed, just as if the ram is not needed, because then the virtual ram not needed and the system distributes it then falls to a normal ram, but I think it also comes to the what and how much the device is made for running multiple concurrent tasks, it is recommended.

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Sorry for too many questions mate - am the noobest guy here on xda that is why
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no problem bro,thats the reason why i open this thread.and hey im noob too

Thank you

one of the best information thread on forum
thank you mate

ewat said:
in your statement zram is not battery friendly. ? am i correct. ? or not?
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Yes you are correct as cpu will have to do more work compresshog and de compressing stuff so more power will be consumed

Nice guide
But still i dont get it
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@CALIBAN666
ramzswap != compcache. both using compressed data on memory. both even from the same person AFAIR. the different is ramzswap using compressed swap and compcache using compressed cache.
kernel 2.6.35 source code from samsung have ramzswap support, but you need user space program to enable it (need little patch to build it for sgy but it's easy).

irfanbagus said:
@CALIBAN666
ramzswap != compcache. both using compressed data on memory. both even from the same person AFAIR. the different is ramzswap using compressed swap and compcache using compressed cache.
kernel 2.6.35 source code from samsung have ramzswap support, but you need user space program to enable it (need little patch to build it for sgy but it's easy).
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Can u help me on enabling ramzswap?? Zram is laggy
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hell_lock said:
Can u help me on enabling ramzswap?? Zram is laggy
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i follow this instruction but using build-in ramzswap.ko in sgy kernel source. the trivial part is compile rzscontrol for sgy. i forget how i build it but AFAIR need few patching. i'll post if i find it.

Not understood... Android has no swap? Then what is swapper for? Swapping partition?

I tried swapper for my galaxy y n i didnt liked it personally
By that time i had stock sd card
Im gonna try zram on my 16 gb class 6 sd card..i wish this thing works for me cuz after installing merruk kernel, my 50 mb ram got stuck
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swapp != zram
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Not understood... Android has no swap? Then what is swapper for? Swapping partition?
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With swapper you can have an swap file or you can choose to partition your SD-Card to have an swap partition there. Swap is not used by default in Galaxy Y and swap space is optional not really needed in Android (or Unix/Linux in general).
On the other hand, zram is a whole different beast.

If I'm not mistaken a dev for ace2 already made it several month ago. It using init.d script to control the zram stuff

[5.X.X]Get The BEST Out of STOCK or ANY ROM

Hello MOTO G2 users,
I have been testing a lot of setting to get the best out of the stock lollipop (u can try on custom ROMS too with appropriate(optimus kernel by Flashhhh works ) kernel) on our device. After lots of flukes and changing of setting I got the device to perform its best.
If u want to try u can go ahead, but I am not responsible if anything happens to ur device
ROOT REQUIRED(Obviously)
Requirements:
1. Stellar Kernel v3.0(recommended for stock not for custom rom): http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/stock-stellarkernel-v1-t3085277
2. Kernel Adiutor app (Download from playstore)
3. Optimus kernel (Only for custom ROMS not for stock)
Steps:
1. Open the kernel adiutor app (The stellar kernel should already be installed)
2. Set the settings as given below:
CPU:
Cpu max frequency: 1190 MHz
Cpu min Frequency: 300 MHz
Governor: interactive(mostly) or ondemand (I recommend ondemand only when u are sleeping as it saves battery)
Multicore power saving: Aggressive (U can keep it disabled if u want)
(Leave other settings as it is)
CPU Hotplug:
MPDecision: Off
Intelliplug: ON
Profile: Eco performance or balanced
Touch boost: On
MSM Hotplug: ON
Debug Mask: ON
CPUs Boosted: 4 (Adjust ur way)
Max cores screen off: ur choice
(Leave other settings as it is)
GPU:
GPU max frequency: 320MHz (u can try 450)
CPU governor: msm adreno tz
Simple Gpu Algorithm : ON
Laziness: 4
Ramp Threshold : 6
Low Memory Killer:
Foreground Application: 6MB
Visible " " : 8MB
Secondary Server: 16MB
Hidden Application: 20MB
Content Providers: 22MB
Empty application: 24MB
[Or u can apply this value easily using the scripts by selecting super multitasking profile (temp) from rt ram manger page in android development section]
(Thanks to Diamond Bond For this Values)
Thanks To:
@zakee94 :For the kernel
@DiamondBond : For the Script
@Flashhhh for optimus kernel
I really thank the developers for the works they have done for our device. Without them this was not achievable.:good::good::fingers-crossed:
I have really done nothing but only triend configuring the setting. All main work goes to those two developer.
I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
Install greenify to hibernate useless apps.
Press Thanks if this helped you.
Send me ur experience after applying this.:good:

If u find something more better u can post it here

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If u find something more better u can post it here
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Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!

DiamondBond said:
Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!
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Many people dont use xposed though.
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Vedant Mistry said:
Many people dont use xposed though.
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Well i would just for the mem leak fix

DiamondBond said:
Well i would just for the mem leak fix
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Me too
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Tried this setting on Flex OS and CM 12.1 with optimus kernel.. And it works:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Memory leak fix not required i guess

smartmax profile works perfect in my case.

Ya its good, but it may cause your phone to over heat.... Its upon you to choose governors but dont mess with low mem kill values:thumbup:
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I never faced overheat problem with smartmax (Using it from tha past three days).

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I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out

codified said:
And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
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@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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Duck86 said:
@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
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First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.

Vedant Mistry said:
First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.
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Hey I wasn't trying to kill anything, or be harsh on you. I was just trying to clarify why the other guy was If it works for you, go for it. I'm all for experimentation and fresh ideas
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virtual memory
dirty ratio 65
dirty background 65
disrty background centisecs 1200
dirty expire centisecs 2500
swappiness 100
vfs cache pressure 30
Cpu governer- zzmoove
Min freq-96000hz
Gpu- simple ondemand; 450mhz; laziness-7
I/o scheduler- zen or fiops regarding ur usage....
Fiops if u prefer multitask
Zen if u want normal daily use
MSM MPDECISION - ON with default values
For more juice u can use Leandroid......
this settings work well for me
Thnx to "blind rodro" for helping me out
Rom- euphoria( by sarath)
Kernel- optimus r6( by flashhh)
Model- xt1068(lol by motorola ?????)

Need suggestions!!

Hello guys,am planning to buy the Asus zenfone max pro m2(4/64 variant).
Should I go for it?I have read various comments on YouTube saying that the mobile consumes a lot of ram and also battery drains too fast etc.
So,I want suggestions from you people.. Also can anyone please tell me how much ram is free in 4gb Variant.?
Thanks

I don't understand all free RAM obsession, RAM is meant to be used and to my knowledge, 80% of available RAM will be occupied. That unless you restrict background running for most apps. Alternatively, you can easily clear recent apps on regular basis. Or better yet, use Naptime or similar apps to apply Doze more aggresively. I use realme 2 pro which natively applying aggresive RAM cleanups and I'm not happy with that. I don't have any issues with Max Pro 2 battery. When it comes to android, you have more control of it. It isn't perfect in any sense but that's what makes it challenging and interesting.

There is no issues like that. They must be comparing it to redmi or realme phones which use aggressive ram management. They even provide tools to clear and kill recent apps in the skin itself. In my opinion this affects the seamless multi-tasking capability of the phone. Why buy a phone with 4gb of ram if you can't use it?!!

mr.anonymous12 said:
Hello guys,am planning to buy the Asus zenfone max pro m2(4/64 variant).
Should I go for it?I have read various comments on YouTube saying that the mobile consumes a lot of ram and also battery drains too fast etc.
So,I want suggestions from you people.. Also can anyone please tell me how much ram is free in 4gb Variant.?
Thanks
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More the RAM is being used more seamless experience you gonna get, Free RAM does nothing in phone but occupied RAM does help out with quick and snappier feel of the phone. You can free the RAM but that won't help you anyway, when android wanna load something in the RAM which is filled it removes allocation of memory to less prioritised stuffs and this process repeats all over when you open different Apps. When an app is already there in RAM it's faster to switch/open that app !

navtey said:
More the RAM is being used more seamless experience you gonna get, Free RAM does nothing in phone but occupied RAM does help out with quick and snappier feel of the phone. You can free the RAM but that won't help you anyway, when android wanna load something in the RAM which is filled it removes allocation of memory to less prioritised stuffs and this process repeats all over when you open different Apps. When an app is already there in RAM it's faster to switch/open that app !
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I know bro I was just eager to know how much ram is free as this phone comes with stock android,so can u please provide me with a screenshot of running apps?
Thanks

mr.anonymous12 said:
I know bro I was just eager to know how much ram is free as this phone comes with stock android,so can u please provide me with a screenshot of running apps?
Thanks
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Here it is

navtey said:
Here it is
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Thanks fella

kickyvivi said:
There is no issues like that. They must be comparing it to redmi or realme phones which use aggressive ram management. They even provide tools to clear and kill recent apps in the skin itself. In my opinion this affects the seamless multi-tasking capability of the phone. Why buy a phone with 4gb of ram if you can't use it?!!
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Yes exactly,redmi and realme phones comes with custom ui which causes the unnecessary ram usage.