I think its better to Post this here,when its not better,than sorry!!!
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Once a brief statement for those who are not traveling so long in the Android scene:
ZRAM = ramzswap = Compcache
In order to explain more precisely ZRAM first need other terms are more clearly defined:
Swap can be compared with the swap file on Windows. If the memory (RAM) to complete the PC the data that are being used not actively outsource (eg background applications) so as to re-evacuate RAM free. To this data is written to a hard disk. If required, this data is then read back from there easily. Even the fastest SSD is slower than the RAM. On Android, there is no swap!
In ZRAM unnecessary storage resources are compressed and then moved to a reserved area in the fixed RAM (ZRAM). So a kind of swap in memory.
This Ram is more free because the data then only about 1/4 of the former storage requirements have. However, the CPU has to work in more because they compress the data has (or unpack again when they are needed). The advantage clearly lies in the speed. Since the swap partition in RAM is much faster than this is a swap partition on a hard drive.
In itself a great thing. But Android does not have a swap partition, and therefore brings Android ZRAM under no performance gain as would be the case with a normal PC.
In normal PC would look like this:
Swap = swap file (on disk) -> Slow
ZRAM (swap in RAM) -> Faster than swap
RAM -> Quick
With Android, there is no swap partition, and therefore brings ZRAM also no performance boost.
The only thing that brings ZRAM is "more" RAM. Compressed by the "enlarged" so to speak of the available memory. That's on devices with little RAM (<256MB) also pretty useful. The S2 has 1GB but the rich, and more than. There must not be artificially pushed up to 1.5 GB.
After you activate the ZRAM also has 2 disadvantages. The encoding and decoding using CPU time, which in turn has higher power consumption.
Roughly one can say (For devices with more than 512MB RAM):
Without ZRAM: + CPU Performance | + Battery | RAM
With ZRAM: CPU Performance |-Battery | + RAM
For devices with too little RAM so it makes perfect sense. But who shoots the S2 already be fully complete RAM and then still need more?
Check whether you can ZRAM runs in the terminal with
free or cat / proc / meminfo
I hope it helps to understand zRam!!!!
Thanks for the info
Yeah thanks indeed for the info - so does this mean that we must have zram disabled because of low memory ?
no its very good for devices with less ram like 289mb and we have less ram,so its useless for higher ram devices with 800-1000,but that can u read in this guide
CALIBAN666 said:
no its very good for devices with less ram like 289mb and we have less ram,so its useless for higher ram devices with 800-1000,but that can u read in this guide
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Yeah i misunderstood thanks for explaining !
But one more doubt - its good for us anyhow if we disable it will we get more free ram ?
in your statement zram is not battery friendly. ? am i correct. ? or not?
Sorry for too many questions mate - am the noobest guy here on xda that is why
not really because the system all the time creates virtual ram and distributed, just as if the ram is not needed, because then the virtual ram not needed and the system distributes it then falls to a normal ram, but I think it also comes to the what and how much the device is made for running multiple concurrent tasks, it is recommended.
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Sorry for too many questions mate - am the noobest guy here on xda that is why
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no problem bro,thats the reason why i open this thread.and hey im noob too
Thank you
one of the best information thread on forum
thank you mate
ewat said:
in your statement zram is not battery friendly. ? am i correct. ? or not?
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Yes you are correct as cpu will have to do more work compresshog and de compressing stuff so more power will be consumed
Nice guide
But still i dont get it
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@CALIBAN666
ramzswap != compcache. both using compressed data on memory. both even from the same person AFAIR. the different is ramzswap using compressed swap and compcache using compressed cache.
kernel 2.6.35 source code from samsung have ramzswap support, but you need user space program to enable it (need little patch to build it for sgy but it's easy).
irfanbagus said:
@CALIBAN666
ramzswap != compcache. both using compressed data on memory. both even from the same person AFAIR. the different is ramzswap using compressed swap and compcache using compressed cache.
kernel 2.6.35 source code from samsung have ramzswap support, but you need user space program to enable it (need little patch to build it for sgy but it's easy).
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Can u help me on enabling ramzswap?? Zram is laggy
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hell_lock said:
Can u help me on enabling ramzswap?? Zram is laggy
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i follow this instruction but using build-in ramzswap.ko in sgy kernel source. the trivial part is compile rzscontrol for sgy. i forget how i build it but AFAIR need few patching. i'll post if i find it.
Not understood... Android has no swap? Then what is swapper for? Swapping partition?
I tried swapper for my galaxy y n i didnt liked it personally
By that time i had stock sd card
Im gonna try zram on my 16 gb class 6 sd card..i wish this thing works for me cuz after installing merruk kernel, my 50 mb ram got stuck
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swapp != zram
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Not understood... Android has no swap? Then what is swapper for? Swapping partition?
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With swapper you can have an swap file or you can choose to partition your SD-Card to have an swap partition there. Swap is not used by default in Galaxy Y and swap space is optional not really needed in Android (or Unix/Linux in general).
On the other hand, zram is a whole different beast.
If I'm not mistaken a dev for ace2 already made it several month ago. It using init.d script to control the zram stuff
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Most Say that a swap file doesn't make Much of a Difference, From personal experience I would have to disagree
Running free in the terminal on a normal nor swap enabled day I would have 22 - 200 free, this is running no programs, and 3 email accounts
Recently I created and enabled a 512MB swap on my SD, against my better judgment of swapping on solid state..
This has had Drastic improvement in performance let alone free not showing 3916 free in mem and 14424 used on the swap, My shift is alot more fluid and responsive,
Your results may vary but i figured i would share my results
Im running scarystable comp cache 18%, vm heap 48m on CM7 nightly 238
again I don't claim to know anything more then the next guy Just sharing my results
Give me about 15 minutes and you can have these types of stats when you type free in terminal. It does help, regardless of what others have said. And scary kernel will work.
http://db.tt/6NzMLnpl
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I love it, Now my only worry it the wear on my SDcard, but I figure aslong as I delete and create the Swap file once in a while it will ware evenly, I just never expected this kind of gain from it.
I will admit 512 may be overkill but it sounded nice
Thanks for your results!
The problem with swap files/partitions is they're slower then ram so you need to buy the highest class sdcard your device can handle to have anything resembling a positive effect and they'll destroy your sdcard. Plus unless you have a script or app to manage swap its a pain to have to disable and re-enable swap when attaching to your pc through usb.
With our devices having 512 ram and something like V6Supercharger with compcache disabled I've found I always have more then enough free ram for pretty much anything.
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Move thread to here: New thread with instruction and patch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18921074#post18921074
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Ron Overdrive said:
The problem with swap files/partitions is they're slower then ram so you need to buy the highest class sdcard your device can handle to have anything resembling a positive effect and they'll destroy your sdcard. Plus unless you have a script or app to manage swap its a pain to have to disable and re-enable swap when attaching to your pc through usb.
With our devices having 512 ram and something like V6Supercharger with compcache disabled I've found I always have more then enough free ram for pretty much anything.
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No, swap file is slow, swap partition is not
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No, swap file is slow, swap partition is not
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The data rate of a class 10 sdcard is 10MB/s. DDR-200 which is the oldest and slowest DDR ram is 1600MB/s. Swap is slow regardless whether its a file or a partition.
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The data rate of a class 10 sdcard is 10MB/s. DDR-200 which is the oldest and slowest DDR ram is 1600MB/s. Swap is slow regardless whether its a file or a partition.
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There is a difference between swap file and swap partition
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There is a difference between swap file and swap partition
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Yes, but a swap partition can -not- increase the physical read/write speed of the sdcard which is the point I'm making. Is swap file slower then a partition? Yes I never argued that. My argument is swap in general is slow.
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Yes, but a swap partition can -not- increase the physical read/write speed of the sdcard which is the point I'm making. Is swap file slower then a partition? Yes I never argued that. My argument is swap in general is slow.
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If your here to use, test swap, provide your results ect fine. If your here to bash swap, then please stfu and go away. We don't need negativity in these forums. do you even know what swappiness is or how to set it?
Swap
Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
JaceAlvejetti said:
Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
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Your trolling skills amaze me...
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JaceAlvejetti said:
Swap is not meant nor does it truly need to be fast, From my understanding it takes whats not being used from ram and "swaps" it to disk to free up ram for programs that require the speed, It is not a replacement for direct ram.
None the less I thank sparksco for his Post and will be trying it out later in much anticipation
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Nice
10char
JaceAlvejetti said:
Most Say that a swap file doesn't make Much of a Difference, From personal experience I would have to disagree
Running free in the terminal on a normal nor swap enabled day I would have 22 - 200 free, this is running no programs, and 3 email accounts
Recently I created and enabled a 512MB swap on my SD, against my better judgment of swapping on solid state..
This has had Drastic improvement in performance let alone free not showing 3916 free in mem and 14424 used on the swap, My shift is alot more fluid and responsive,
Your results may vary but i figured i would share my results
Im running scarystable comp cache 18%, vm heap 48m on CM7 nightly 238
again I don't claim to know anything more then the next guy Just sharing my results
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Swap file is useless and slows your phone down. Just like a pagefile on windows.
"disk" is ALWAYS slower than "RAM"
Post your linpack and antutu scores.
Hi, I have ZTE Blade v880 256MB RAM, tried CM7.1.0 and its slow as hell. Recomendations? I have clockwork mod installed so I can try other roms (its gen2).
Any ROM designed for such little ram? CyanogenMod 7.1.0 lags terribly, its unusable, it almost never has ram free.
Thanks in advance for any help.
EDIT: ITS A CHINESE UNICOM PHONE.
You could try my CM7 kang: http://kan.gd/1h7f
CM7 was written & tested for the European 512mb ram version of the phone, that doesn't run out of ram so badly. My kanged version has a few tweaks to the kernel to make it run faster.
You could try enabling swap space by formatting your sd card in clockworkmod, might as well create a ext partition too. 512mb ext & 128mb swap should be ok. That'll let your phone use the sd card as virtual memory. You could also try compcache.
There are a few other settings to make it a bit faster too, like overclocking. Disable surface dithering for faster graphics. Look in CyanogenMod settings.
You could also try GSF, it's based on a zte 2.3.5 with few customisations, it might use a bit less ram than CM7.
wbaw said:
You could try my CM7 kang: http://kan.gd/1gwb
CM7 was written & tested for the European 512mb ram version of the phone, that doesn't run out of ram so badly. My kanged version has a few tweaks to the kernel to make it run faster.
You could try enabling swap space by formatting your sd card in clockworkmod, might as well create a ext partition too. 512mb ext & 128mb swap should be ok. That'll let your phone use the sd card as virtual memory. You could also try compcache.
There are a few other settings to make it a bit faster too, like overclocking. Disable surface dithering for faster graphics. Look in CyanogenMod settings.
You could also try GSF, it's based on a zte 2.3.5 with few customisations, it might use a bit less ram than CM7.
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Thanks, will try to test to create a ext partition and swap and compchache. I think that any rom designed to run on 512mb ram will run ultra slow for 256mb cellphones. Would be nice to have a really clean rom (CM7.1.0 is filled with stuff I dont use).
I too have a 256mb blade and cm7.1 is working fine. Try disabling surface dithering and enabling 16bit transparency. Also overclock to 710 MHz ( standard for blade. However mine is 748 MHz and stable)
It should work fine after this. Is it always slow, or just at boot?
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IceCream_Sandwich said:
I too have a 256mb blade and cm7.1 is working fine. Try disabling surface dithering and enabling 16bit transparency. Also overclock to 710 MHz ( standard for blade. However mine is 748 MHz and stable)
It should work fine after this. Is it always slow, or just at boot?
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One more question:
I think I have some problems on recieving sms and calls. Sometimes I dont get sms/calls from my friends despite being sent on their phones. What could it be? Does ClockworkMod tinker with this things? I called the Service Company and they said there is nothing wrong with the telephone or the number.
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One more question:
I think I have some problems on recieving sms and calls. Sometimes I dont get sms/calls from my friends despite being sent on their phones. What could it be? Does ClockworkMod tinker with this things? I called the Service Company and they said there is nothing wrong with the telephone or the number.
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No clockwork doesn't change these. Its a gingerbread thing. Go to settings/cm settings/performance/lock messaging app in memory. Enable it. Also try these settings
10% compcache
JIT disabled
Dithering enabled
Allow purging of assets
Lock messaging in memory
Heap size 32
Hit THANKS if helpful
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wbaw said:
You could try my CM7 kang: http://kan.gd/1h7f
CM7 was written & tested for the European 512mb ram version of the phone, that doesn't run out of ram so badly. My kanged version has a few tweaks to the kernel to make it run faster.
You could try enabling swap space by formatting your sd card in clockworkmod, might as well create a ext partition too. 512mb ext & 128mb swap should be ok. That'll let your phone use the sd card as virtual memory. You could also try compcache.
There are a few other settings to make it a bit faster too, like overclocking. Disable surface dithering for faster graphics. Look in CyanogenMod settings.
You could also try GSF, it's based on a zte 2.3.5 with few customisations, it might use a bit less ram than CM7.
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Can i use it on N880 (cdma) ?
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pawul said:
Can i use it on N880 (cdma) ?
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No, it's a totally different phone.
None of the roms here will work on a CDMA N880, only the GSM China Unicom V880 & European/Indian/Russian GSM ZTE Blades.
Hey... had the same Problems with the CM. I flashed the ZTE Elite Rom (you can get it in the forums).
Now its working like a charm =)
You can try Moldovan Mile High Mountain Pie RLS9(MMHMP)
its a gaming rom for blade(means very fast) and works without any lags on my blade(168 mb total ram)
anshullrocks said:
You can try Moldovan Mile High Mountain Pie RLS9(MMHMP)
its a gaming rom for blade(means very fast) and works without any lags on my blade(168 mb total ram)
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Just FYI, MMHMP Project has been stopped and Swedish Snow is a continuation of the. Check THIS
I have noticed that the Atrix 2 is capable of running 2nd system from the webtop partition as a form of dual boot, I was wondering if there is any chance of a DEV implementing this into a recovery image, The Atrix 2 uses safestrap that has 2nd system support, was just wondering if it was possible to do this on the Atrix.
Many thanks
kyler084 said:
I have noticed that the Atrix 2 is capable of running 2nd system from the webtop partition as a form of dual boot, I was wondering if there is any chance of a DEV implementing this into a recovery image, The Atrix 2 uses safestrap that has 2nd system support, was just wondering if it was possible to do this on the Atrix.
Many thanks
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This would be awesome... I don't even have anything in the webtop partition at the moment... and the stupid hardware reserves 200mb of the ram for it anyways... might as well get SOME use out of it!
I'm going to look into it , I have seen it being done on the Razr , I imagine it works in a similar way to the sdcard dualboot just with the mount points pointed at the osh partition.
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rossbeck said:
This would be awesome... I don't even have anything in the webtop partition at the moment... and the stupid hardware reserves 200mb of the ram for it anyways... might as well get SOME use out of it!
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Call me crazy but If the hardware is reserving 200mb of ram for webtop, Wouldnt that be a matter of just editing memory reference.. or would that require the kernel source?
I recall when I had a galaxy 7500GT it had 98 MB of ram and some dev had tailored a kernel to use the 4 mb of video ram for system memory ( at the cost of 3d acceleration) to bump the phone to 102 .. not a huge difference but it helped.
being able to use /osh to boot maybe a super stripped down blur rom for camera/camcorder ect stuff would be nice though.
rossbeck;[URL="tel:31074258" said:
31074258[/URL]]This would be awesome... I don't even have anything in the webtop partition at the moment... and the stupid hardware reserves 200mb of the ram for it anyways... might as well get SOME use out of it!
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I was under the impression that the 200mb of ram is reserved for the graphics and frame buffers, technically no webtop processes that consume RAM are started unless the device has been docked.
tomh235 said:
I was under the impression that the 200mb of ram is reserved for the graphics and frame buffers, technically no webtop processes that consume RAM are started unless the device has been docked.
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I think you are right, he might be thinking on the /osh part.
Imo left the system as it is would be better, we all can dual boot from sd and thats good enough. If u want to use use webtop left over space cos of cm7-9-10 then best thing would be to decrease the sise of partition as much as possible. No partition table change no sydtem level mofigications required and u dont have to do any thing especial every time u flash. Correct me if i am wrong
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If I didn't need my phone for work, I'd try the sdcard method and symlink to stuff I've flashed into the webtop partition.
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guys i am new hear and i need a clean descreaption on how to increase available ram on galaxy y using swap file r someting else will it show on task manager my ram 500 mb etc if i increase it and ive tried swap partation in stock rom ntin hapened my ram decreased to 289 mb someting can any 1 give me video or someting like tat or upload pictures of increased ram
nw at present i am using hyperion 8 rom plz.it l b help full plz plz
have u use search for this topic?
link to tutorial for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37822562
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853669
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
bro i need a way to increase ram not links 2 sd
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naga raju said:
bro i need a way to increase ram not links 2 sd
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you have a phone not a computer,
you can't put a chip to increase ram on a phone since it is embedded into the circuitry.
you have 2 options
- accept the fact we have 180mb of ram
- use swap (which in my opinion does not increase performance) it is similar as pagefile in windows systems
deathnotice01 said:
you have a phone not a computer,
you can't put a chip to increase ram on a phone since it is embedded into the circuitry.
you have 2 options
- accept the fact we have 180mb of ram
- use swap (which in my opinion does not increase performance) it is similar as pagefile in windows systems
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he has no option, but to accept the fact :angel:
well if i do swap will it show on my task manager like nw its showing 289 if i increase 200 mb will it show 489
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naga raju said:
well if i do swap will it show on my task manager like nw its showing 289 if i increase 200 mb will it show 489
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No dude,
Do you have any idea about Virtual memory. If yes then it's something like that. If no, then:
It wont show extra RAM capacity in your taskmanger rather it'll take ceratin part of your memory card and turn it into temporary paging file
With the help of Swapper it allows your ram to Swap the programs that are inactive into Memory storage and active programs to RAM
This is somehow like the virtual memory in PC...
If you think I've helped plz press Thanks button below... :good:
no it will not show you the extra ram you made... if you need to have instructions on how to do it... here's a link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853669... i personally used this it works great
Hello MOTO G2 users,
I have been testing a lot of setting to get the best out of the stock lollipop (u can try on custom ROMS too with appropriate(optimus kernel by Flashhhh works ) kernel) on our device. After lots of flukes and changing of setting I got the device to perform its best.
If u want to try u can go ahead, but I am not responsible if anything happens to ur device
ROOT REQUIRED(Obviously)
Requirements:
1. Stellar Kernel v3.0(recommended for stock not for custom rom): http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/stock-stellarkernel-v1-t3085277
2. Kernel Adiutor app (Download from playstore)
3. Optimus kernel (Only for custom ROMS not for stock)
Steps:
1. Open the kernel adiutor app (The stellar kernel should already be installed)
2. Set the settings as given below:
CPU:
Cpu max frequency: 1190 MHz
Cpu min Frequency: 300 MHz
Governor: interactive(mostly) or ondemand (I recommend ondemand only when u are sleeping as it saves battery)
Multicore power saving: Aggressive (U can keep it disabled if u want)
(Leave other settings as it is)
CPU Hotplug:
MPDecision: Off
Intelliplug: ON
Profile: Eco performance or balanced
Touch boost: On
MSM Hotplug: ON
Debug Mask: ON
CPUs Boosted: 4 (Adjust ur way)
Max cores screen off: ur choice
(Leave other settings as it is)
GPU:
GPU max frequency: 320MHz (u can try 450)
CPU governor: msm adreno tz
Simple Gpu Algorithm : ON
Laziness: 4
Ramp Threshold : 6
Low Memory Killer:
Foreground Application: 6MB
Visible " " : 8MB
Secondary Server: 16MB
Hidden Application: 20MB
Content Providers: 22MB
Empty application: 24MB
[Or u can apply this value easily using the scripts by selecting super multitasking profile (temp) from rt ram manger page in android development section]
(Thanks to Diamond Bond For this Values)
Thanks To:
@zakee94 :For the kernel
@DiamondBond : For the Script
@Flashhhh for optimus kernel
I really thank the developers for the works they have done for our device. Without them this was not achievable.:good::good::fingers-crossed:
I have really done nothing but only triend configuring the setting. All main work goes to those two developer.
I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
Install greenify to hibernate useless apps.
Press Thanks if this helped you.
Send me ur experience after applying this.:good:
If u find something more better u can post it here
Vedant Mistry said:
If u find something more better u can post it here
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Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!
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Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!
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Many people dont use xposed though.
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Many people dont use xposed though.
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Well i would just for the mem leak fix
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Well i would just for the mem leak fix
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Me too
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Tried this setting on Flex OS and CM 12.1 with optimus kernel.. And it works:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Memory leak fix not required i guess
smartmax profile works perfect in my case.
Ya its good, but it may cause your phone to over heat.... Its upon you to choose governors but dont mess with low mem kill values:thumbup:
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I never faced overheat problem with smartmax (Using it from tha past three days).
Vedant Mistry said:
I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
codified said:
And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
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@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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Duck86 said:
@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
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First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.
Vedant Mistry said:
First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.
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Hey I wasn't trying to kill anything, or be harsh on you. I was just trying to clarify why the other guy was If it works for you, go for it. I'm all for experimentation and fresh ideas
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virtual memory
dirty ratio 65
dirty background 65
disrty background centisecs 1200
dirty expire centisecs 2500
swappiness 100
vfs cache pressure 30
Cpu governer- zzmoove
Min freq-96000hz
Gpu- simple ondemand; 450mhz; laziness-7
I/o scheduler- zen or fiops regarding ur usage....
Fiops if u prefer multitask
Zen if u want normal daily use
MSM MPDECISION - ON with default values
For more juice u can use Leandroid......
this settings work well for me
Thnx to "blind rodro" for helping me out
Rom- euphoria( by sarath)
Kernel- optimus r6( by flashhh)
Model- xt1068(lol by motorola ?????)