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[Q] To keep or not to keep?

First and foremost I love my atrix for the most part..but the question is do I trust AT&T to make good on the HSUPA or do I return the phone this weekend before Im stuck in two years of possible down/upload hell in my area I typically get 500-1kdown and 90-200kup my thirty days expire this weekend so I guess its time to make a decision. Your opinions and thoughts are definitely welcome

Well I mean it is your phone and your experience, we can't really tell you if you should get it or not.
If you're happy with it, that's what matters; if you buy any ATT branded phone then you're going tto run into this (4G phones obviously)
I didnt mind for the upload and download speeds, I just didn't like the phone itself.
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I was more or less interested in others thoughts on rather or not they believe AT&T will eventually do right by their non-iphone users..because to be honest AT&T is already one of if not the most restrictive carrier now in addition to that they offering sub-par service

Its hard for me too. Im thinking of calling up ATT and seeing what they will do for compensation till they fix this issue. Not only is my upload bad but my download seems to get capped. If I run one speed test its good. The next right after are slow, around 300kbs down. Its horrible. Im kind of mad at them right now and I hope they fix this crap.

Inspire is a good choice. I sold my atrix on eBay already. A locked cellphone is a dead one.
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The phone does not get 4G speeds. It's false advertising if you ask me. I would return it until they fix this.

ljwnow said:
Inspire is a good choice. I sold my atrix on eBay already. A locked cellphone is a dead one.
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Why did you even purchase it? You knew this before you bought it LOL.

svengalis said:
Why did you even purchase it? You knew this before you bought it LOL.
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Sometimes returning a phone is not as easy as you think. Restocking fee or shipping and handling fees really hinders people. I'm still deciding whether I should keep the Atrix or not.
Keep or not Keep, that's the question.

What do you think of the Motorola Triumph?

Virgin has full coverage here in NYC. I don't talk a lot. I use a lot of text/gtalk. They have 25$ plans. The processor/gpu is the same as the thunderbolt. I was going to wait on the nexus 3 but if the Triumph comes out and someone can get CM on it somehow- I might pick it up.
I know the Triumph (Thunderbolt specs) and the Nexus 3 (supposed quad core) are totally different but for 25 a month- that's very attractive.
I know this place will be pro-Vibrant and most likely pro nexus since its a dev device but if the Triumph can get a 2nd init install of Cm or MIUI- why not?
Thoughts?
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I am really tempted to pay my etf and make the switch to VM because the service (virgin mobile which uses Sprint's network) is a lot better then T-mobile's in my area. I've heard the Triumph also is running stock android, so thats a plus. I say go for it, $25 a month is a very good deal and VM has a 30 day returm period, so if you don't like it you can return your phone.

How much does that phone go for?
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Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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i think more than 200 since it even has a 4.1 screen and good processor and all that, also ive heard virgin wont let people root, they went extreme, more than any other carrier

richiehd said:
Not out yet, Dan. Speculation of anywhere between 150-250.
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That's not too bad. Looks like a nice device.

Dan_Brutal said:
That's not too bad. Looks like a nice device.
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got some good specs but i dont know, would u jump to it dan ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Triumph

bosina said:
got some good specs but i dont know, would u jump to it dan ?
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I would get it just to have it and play with it.

I think Virgin has a 30 day period to return the phone if you don't like it. It would be nice to try it. Worse comes to worse and you don't like it, return it and you're only losing the 25$ for that month.
Vanilla android, yumm.
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richiehd said:
I think Virgin has a 30 day period to return the phone if you don't like it. It would be nice to try it. Worse comes to worse and you don't like it, return it and you're only losing the 25$ for that month.
Vanilla android, yumm.
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Yeah sounds good, but i also like quality and stuff thats why i spend mad money on phones, tmos network is the fastest ive test, sprint 4g is slower then my old vibrant 3.5 g lols
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I doubt you could get CM7 on that thing since Virgin really took a stand against root and custom roms. Of course, if they do decide to unlock the bootloader, like Kevin Garnett, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
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Meh, i would wait for the Nexus 3, or get the Samsung Hercules, but thats phonewise, on the coverage side, idk since i don't live in the US

vinnydakid said:
I doubt you could get CM7 on that thing since Virgin really took a stand against root and custom roms. Of course, if they do decide to unlock the bootloader, like Kevin Garnett, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
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Haha that made me chuckle
Also, Motorola said that they will start releasing phones with unlocked bootloaders later this summer. Whether that applies to this phone is yet to be told... I hope it come with an unlocked bootloader.
Source: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=15331

bosina said:
Yeah sounds good, but i also like quality and stuff thats why i spend mad money on phones, tmos network is the fastest ive test, sprint 4g is slower then my old vibrant 3.5 g lols
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As much as I don't like verizon's phones. They have the fastest mobile network in the US hands down (LTE and not CDMA). Their devices average 12Mbs, and can hit up to 21Mbs. There's really no contest there. T-mo and the others can't do that today.

First, this is my first post in this sub-forum, as I have a fascinate, but I just wanted to point out 2 things about this phone and Virgin Mobile in general:
1. Sprint has wonderful service in my area, better than AT&T and T-Mobile, but not as good as Verizon. I DO know that I am willing to have one less bar and slower data to save $60 a month. Also, I don't travel where Sprint doesn't have service, so roaming is a non-factor to me, although to some people that should be a pretty big point, as VM doesn't roam out of sprint's network (trade offs... pfft)
2.Virgin Mobile's android phones follow a trend, sell the phone for ~ 50% of retail. I'll prove it:
Optimus S $299 | Optimus V $149 and Samsung Transform (Sprint no longer offers the Intercept) $350 | Samsung Intecept $199 (I see it all the time on sale at BB for $175)
What this leads me to believe is you simply need to find the equivalent phone and simply slash it's price in half, +/- $50. I believe the EVO is the closest match, so take half of that price and you get roughly $225, according to Sprint. Therefore, I believe the triumph will be $250.
What do you all think?

the phone will be sold for $299.99
you can pre-order it now on bestbuy's website.
just go there and search for "motorola triumph"
I'm kinda pissed that the price is so high, but unlimited data, text, and web for 25 a month... will make up the difference in a few months on the money you save from paying your normal phone bill.

If it can't be rootrom'd then im gonna wait for the nexus 3.
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I wouldn't, what most people don't know is how these carriers are able to sell the phones for so little money. For example, the rumor touch is 100 bucks for virgin mobile while the off-contract price for the rumor touch on sprint is 250 in most stores, how are they able to do that? the answer is different parts, not just different brands, also lower quality, which is why most people who have a prepaid phone have the most phone problems, there's not a single prepaid phone in the last 3 years that I've seen with no serious problems. While the same can be said for post paid versions in this case it is much worse on prepaid smartphones.
Ask anyone who repairs/mods cellphones, most of the time they won't mess with prepaids :/

The reason those companies sell it higher at full price is to try to get you into their contract.I have never had a problem with a prepaid phone.I personally don't mind getting it cheaper without the contract.I also will dev or work on any phone prepaid or not.I am looking forward to the Triumph, finally there will be a nice spec'd phone on prepaid.While I am happy with th Optimus V I was already looking to use it as a donor for another phone.But with this coming out, I'll just sell my V and get it.Though I'm sure it will have a locked bootloader as long as it can be temp rooted to remove bloatware I'll be very happy.
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Read -> Sprint changing a few things... again.

Getting rid of the "premier customer", returns go from 30 to 14 days, upgrade moves from 22 to 20 months BUT upgrade fee goes from 18 to 36..... all these changes are probly because of the new iphone too.... f*ck sprint and the rest of em.
phandroid.com/2011/09/15/sprint-mak...ram-cuts-back-returnexchange-policy-and-more/

that was announced a month ago lol

its for whoever doesnt know.
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Agreed! F**k Sprint!

go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.

Bierce22 said:
go away why did u have to bump this thread just to say that.
and obviously u didnt even read this thread because at no point was anyone bashing sprint witch means this was an epic fail for you.
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Check again Bierce:
The op said the same thing the Guy b4 u did....."F-sprint" so he did read the thread.
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i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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I'm not too sure about that. Mainly because every commercial i see for them is the
"We are sprint, we are truly unlimited" IMHO that's the only thing sprint has going for them, until the new iPhone comes out.

Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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rubyknight said:
Sprint is still better than the alternatives though. Good customer service, awesome phones, etc. Everyone else has already done all this junk and gone to tiered plans so I'm happy that Sprint has kept their service as is for so long
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I agree, if you find a better service at Sprint's prices, let me know, I'll be upgrading soon.

youdug said:
i like sprint (for now), dont get me wrong. but they are slowly hiking prices and axing services. they just got rid of unlimited 4g hotspot.... i think its only a matter of time before unlimited data is a thing of the past.
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Is there really anyone that uses unlimited hotspot? I can't honestly imagine someone just tethering their laptop, gaming device, ect with their phone ALL day. The only thing that bothers me with the premier loss is return policy.

It is bs. I signed up for unlimited. I should get unlimited. If I spend anymore I might as well just get internet in my house instead of phone. What is this power trip all the carrier's seem to be on? The power to giveth, the power to take away? The power to cancel my service is what they'll get. I don't understand why sprint would make a move for the iphone and sacrifice the biggest advantage that no other carrier provides. That in my mind would be the gold mine and I would squat on it. Unless they are all acting together to gain greater profit from the consumer because they are all not happy with the percentages, it makes no sense. It does make sense however that they would all drop like dominos to the power of apple. After all, they have as much money saved up as our entire government. Tell me that isn't f'd up. Tell me a company like that can't do whatever they want and manipulate the system. I'm sure if we new everything we would pull out our guns to stop it. Die for it. But, who will ever know. Our worst enemy will be loved like family due to secrets and manipulation as we all suffer unrecognized poverty and enslavement. But, we are many.... and the day will come.

Evo running on Verizon!!!!

Ok I'm about to have my HTC evo 4g flashed to run on Verizon the guy that does the job told me he'll flash a like stock custom Rom to the hand set and then change the meid from a crappie Verizon phone to the evo and it will be working on Verizon. Ok cool BUT... I'm a flash junkie I can't stop flashing roms on my incredible I wanna no if anyone can help after the evo is done can I still use custom roms on my evo. Please all help would be greatly appreciate sorry if this is the wrong spot to post this.
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Don't think its possible to run evo on verizon

As soon as Verizon finds out ur flashed to their network on a non vzw phone you will be booted and charged the price of the full 2 year contract, don't pay it and it goes to collections and on your credit, vzw doesn't like non carrier approved phones at all so good luck
We are legion, for we are many.

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
As soon as Verizon finds out ur flashed to their network on a non vzw phone you will be booted and charged the price of the full 2 year contract, don't pay it and it goes to collections and on your credit, vzw doesn't like non carrier approved phones at all so good luck
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Yep, exactly.
What are your reasons for running on verizon? You can always use the 00001 prl, which will let you talk/text/3g on verizon. As long as you dont use it a whole lot (about 50% per month) you shouldnt get caught from sprint.

It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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666syco said:
It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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But the prl runs off Verizon towers...
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666syco said:
It's going on prepaid $50 amonth unlimited so I'm not worried if they find out I already got my one incredible running on it for $50 so why not. Sprint blows were I live Verizon rules my area so its kinda worth it to me.
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Buy a Verizon phone get a GNex or a rezound verizon likes to bend ppl over and give it to em hard for using flashed phones I know 2 ppl who got hit with collections 2 months in and one person who actually tried to do it again after getting caught the first time and got taken to court and charged with fraud and big reds got big bucks to shove right up your a$$
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Ok I thought I was able to have my question answer but no I got a bunch momma boys screaming at me NO DON'T DO IT. LOOK I'M DOING LIKE IT OR NOT. CAN I FLASH ROMS OR WHAT.
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Prepare for a flame war for using cap lock. A simple search would of given ur answer... Yes and no. U can flash a rom but nothing will work except for calls i believe. Ur gonna have to edit the rom u want to flash to get data working.
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T.C.P said:
Prepare for a flame war for using cap lock. A simple search would of given ur answer... Yes and no. U can flash a rom but nothing will work except for calls i believe. Ur gonna have to edit the rom u want to flash to get data working.
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Nah, there ain't going to be any flame war...the dude is obviously an idiot!! Chances are that they're really not really putting him on Verizon but on Page Plus BUT he's too busy being a hot head about things! He thinks we're mommas boys or whatever, OK....don't come crying 2 months from now when they bust down your trailer and haul you and your meth making girlfriend to jail for fraud because you thought you were some sort of hardcore internet gangsta that couldn't listen to what people are trying to tell you...hahaha

Dude......evil offered you some sound advice. U don't have to take it......u also don't need to be a jerkoff. I don't believe he was telling you not to do it.....he was using real life examples of people who got caught and what happened to them. U should be pushing the thanks button on each of his posts as well as this one.

Ok my bad I'm fast to act like a ass. Im sorry I do understand that you guys are looking out and that is great sorry once again if I offended anyone and I take it in consideration on the info given
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It's really going to Verizon not page plus we have in my area Verizon, straight talk, net 10, and at&t. I only get services with Verizon that's why I asked. Sorry to of opened my mouth and disrespected you guys. Ya I'm a hot head but at that note my wife is not a meth head. Man look, pick on me not my family she was killed last year by a drunk driver that got away so the topic of my wife is very touchy. Sorry for being a noon and a asshole. Thank you guys for all your help in my problems.
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I don't get offended I'm just trying to warn u vzw likes to throw their weight around and hard and they have the money to do it they will show up to court with some lil dip**** Rep and then 3 attorneys a criminal, civil and idk what the other was probably a second civil cuz my boy got 2 yrs in jail for fraud and a 250,000$ fine for what vzw called wire fraud they basically conned a judge into buying that he was stealing service because he didn't buy a smartphone directly from them and was off contract even tho he was still paying them their rediculous rates, I can't stand vzw u pay through your nose, ass and eyes to be treated like a dog turd stuck on their shoe their customer service skills blow harder than a f5 tornado
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Thank you the more you tell me the more I'm ready to say never mind bad idea. I got 5 years in jail already couldn't see my kids going to the state cause Verizon is a pushy company.
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Ok thanks guys I agree I'm not doing it I gave the phone to my son to use as a tablet thanks for all the info and once again sorry for any disrespect you were more then helpful.
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I've done, bunch of people have done, and a bunch more will do it....
You actually bought a phone from verizon, you own both phones, chances of they getting you is 1 in one million.
People come out with the dogs not knowing exactly the rules of stealing/cloning/swapping.
If you swap esn/meid your phone become the donors phone bottom line that's what they will see.
if you wanna know how to do it, pm. I dont charge a penny, to whoever want to learn. this applys to
most phones.
If you search around you will see a tons of guides/how to on how to flash to cricket/metropcs/virgin and etc...
anyway people are using one's phone carrier on another.
Iphone or any gsm phone, they are exclusive for specific carriers. though people jailbreak or unlock to use
in another carrier.
they been doing this since mmmmm since mmmm?? well a very long time ...lol
I mean knowledge ahead, doing or not is totally up to you.
I can guarantee voice/text will work, now regarding data maybe, I've seem people with data and other not or struggling with 1x.
PS
everybody know that pulling the trigger can kill, however most people are not willing to do so. You decide your will.

Thanks for the helpful info, but i am going to flash my phone over to verizon anyway. I already bought the donor phone and paid for the month of service so there's no turning back now I'm having a few issues so so help would be excellent from the poster above. If you could shoot me a pm it would be much appreciated!

sweatmanpb said:
Thanks for the helpful info, but i am going to flash my phone over to verizon anyway. I already bought the donor phone and paid for the month of service so there's no turning back now I'm having a few issues so so help would be excellent from the poster above. If you could shoot me a pm it would be much appreciated!
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amlavor said:
I've done, bunch of people have done, and a bunch more will do it....
You actually bought a phone from verizon, you own both phones, chances of they getting you is 1 in one million.
People come out with the dogs not knowing exactly the rules of stealing/cloning/swapping.
If you swap esn/meid your phone become the donors phone bottom line that's what they will see.
if you wanna know how to do it, pm. I dont charge a penny, to whoever want to learn. this applys to
most phones.
If you search around you will see a tons of guides/how to on how to flash to cricket/metropcs/virgin and etc...
anyway people are using one's phone carrier on another.
Iphone or any gsm phone, they are exclusive for specific carriers. though people jailbreak or unlock to use
in another carrier.
they been doing this since mmmmm since mmmm?? well a very long time ...lol
I mean knowledge ahead, doing or not is totally up to you.
I can guarantee voice/text will work, now regarding data maybe, I've seem people with data and other not or struggling with 1x.
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everybody know that pulling the trigger can kill, however most people are not willing to do so. You decide your will.
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Exactly, this is great support right here at its best not a put down as others.:thumbup:
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[GUIDE] Getting a new HTC Evo 4G

THIS GUIDE IS PURELY INFORMATIVE. HOW YOU DECIDE TO USE THIS INFORMATION DOES NOT INVOLVE ME.
I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PERSONAL MISHAPS DUE TO THIS INFORMATION. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.
With that said, lets get started.
If you are one of the many sprint users that has borked 4g, or their phone in general by being a root newb, this guide is for you.
OBJECTIVE: Use your charismatic personality in order to recieve a free (or $35) Brand new (or refurbished) Evo 4G.
STEP BY STEP:
1.Unroot is absolutely VITAL for this to work. CLICK HERE FOR UNROOTING GUIDE!
2.[OPTIONAL] Keep the phone as is (widgets and wallpaper) when you install the original software onto your phone. This will benefit you in the future.
3.Locate your nearest Sprint retailer. WARNING! DO NOT GO TO A SPRINT CONTRACTOR OR TECHNICIAN STORE USE THIS LINK TO FIND YOUR LOCAL STORE!
4.Make sure you have at least 2-3 hours of free time before you actually enter the store, as with the release of the EVO LTE the store WILL be populated.
5.Enter the store and let the rep know of your phone's issue (4g being the easiest problem to replicate). He/she will most likely put you on a list and make you wait a while.
6.IMPORTANT! Act completely potato at this point. Make sure the reps understands that you are a dimwitted redneck hillbilly with absolutely no tech knowledge.
7.When you are called upon, the rep may ask you if you rooted your phone. Say "What's that?" and you are set.
8.After the rep does his stupid routine, he will probably reccomend that you go to the corporate HQ store and yadda yadda. Just say "Can't I just get a replacement?" At this point, if you do not have insurance, the rep will tell you that it will cost $35.
9.Say "Alright." and be on your merry way to a new phone.
10.??????????
11.Profit.
Be warned that this may not be the exact order that things take place for you.
-Meph, out!

This worked for me a few months ago. My phone Was stuck in diag mode. They were out of evos and offered me a ns4g for the 35. Woot. U can probably get a newer phone like me if they are out of evos
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is there any other way to try this method because i dont have 4g in my area so this is not a option for me..

treedog5 said:
is there any other way to try this method because i dont have 4g in my area so this is not a option for me..
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Hypothetically, if you were to somehow *accidentally* lose your RSA keys... I guess you could pull it off. But this is geared more towards the people who lost them innocently through flashing radios.
Is there anything actually wrong with your evo?
If so, replicate it enough to be able to show a rep.

pardonmyownage said:
This worked for me a few months ago. My phone Was stuck in diag mode. They were out of evos and offered me a ns4g for the 35. Woot. U can probably get a newer phone like me if they are out of evos
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You are one lucky sucker!
I tried my hardest to go for the LTE, but the guy just said he'd "Hook me up" with a refurbished evo.
I'm slightly jealous.

Just sucks I don't have sprint, I have boost mobile
That Stoner at Circle K

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Just sucks I don't have sprint, I have boost mobile
That Stoner at Circle K
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I was just thinking about that!
What a coincidence lol.
How is that btw? Reliable at all?

thanks...
Thanks for this, I didn't know Sprint did the $35 replacement thing. Do you have to be within the first year, or is this just a standard thing? Was thinking the 4g response may not work, as we don't have it in our area either.
The main problem with my girls' phone is the camera is borked, but it's a hardware issue...you can literally move the lens around. I don't want to go in and them claim they can't help because she dropped it or something.