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[Q]Default Home Screen?

I have a luncher pro installed. I selected as my default home screen app, it was working fine. Recently every time i press home button i get a window asking me to select default home screen application. It does that at random, even though i checked the box before selecting launcher pro.

You could try clearing the defaults, then set it again. Under Settings - Applications - Manage Applications, find all the launchers and use the Clear data option for each.

Does this happen mainly after a reset? Do you have a app killer? Something that auto clears your caches?
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f1vel66a said:
Does this happen mainly after a reset? Do you have a app killer? Something that auto clears your caches?
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I have a app killer, but i have set the program to be ignored. I also do have a auto cache clearer. Could that be causing the problem? aCCcleaner pro.

xplod420 said:
I have a app killer, but i have set the program to be ignored. I also do have a auto cache clearer. Could that be causing the problem? aCCcleaner pro.
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ATK's are BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD DO NOT USE THEM. 2.2 has them built them into the OS. this has been discussed numerous times.
That is most likely your problem, and you'll notice your battery life will go up as well.
cleaning the cache as nothing to do with. for it to ask you to use the phone is sutting down lancher pro, and removing the default settings, then it's starting back up on your own and since the phone doesn't know what launcher you want to use by default it's going to ask you.

I do have ATK, plus Process Manager. I will get rid of ATK see if it will fix the issue.

xplod420 said:
I do have ATK, plus Process Manager. I will get rid of ATK see if it will fix the issue.
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why are you using Process manager?

neidlinger said:
why are you using Process manager?
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Its something that i have always used, to kill the apps that i was not using. From the Nexus days. Do i not need it? I just don't want apps running in the background and killing my battery and processor. I also have SetSPU for that purpose.

xplod420 said:
Its something that i have always used, to kill the apps that i was not using. From the Nexus days. Do i not need it? I just don't want apps running in the background and killing my battery and processor. I also have SetSPU for that purpose.
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android phones are built off the linux shell.
Linux in nature are multitasking MONSTERS. when you are not using them they are setting dormant not using the processor and not using any resources. Applications in Linux will not run unless you tell them to. From reading the android market it looks like that app isn't running 24/7. But the ATK are constantly running looking for applications to kill, thus killing your battery in the process... On older 1.5 and 1.6 android and lower end units rocking 2.1 ATKs were acceptable, but not recommended, but on newer 2.2 and 2.3 units ATKs are not good.

Well I got rid of ATK, now left with Process Manager and SetCpu. Are you saying that I should get rid of those two as well?

xplod420 said:
Well I got rid of ATK, now left with Process Manager and SetCpu. Are you saying that I should get rid of those two as well?
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no, i'm not saying that in the least a-lot of people use set CPU, that just manages your CPU.
And Processor manager looks like it doesn't run 24/7. You can keep it, i just wouldn't use it unless you have to.

Thanks. We'll see how it goes with just those two running.

neidlinger said:
no, i'm not saying that in the least a-lot of people use set CPU, that just manages your CPU.
And Processor manager looks like it doesn't run 24/7. You can keep it, i just wouldn't use it unless you have to.
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Thanks for jumping in I got busy with work
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thanks for all the help

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thanks for all the help
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i assume things are running smoother for you?

Download homeswitcher from the market.
And yea... Task killers are evil.
Eeevvviillllll
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neidlinger said:
i assume things are running smoother for you?
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yeap, i don't get that annoying pop up anymore asking me to choose the home launcher.

xplod420 said:
yeap, i don't get that annoying pop up anymore asking me to choose the home launcher.
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i figured ATK was the problem. the last time i ran an ATK i had CM4 on my Magic. When i went to CM5 i used Swapper2 to help with memory management, and from cm6 to cm7 i haven't needed anything at all to make this phone rock.

Task killer.......

I did the grey blur Rom, loving it, but when it got rid of all the bloatware it got rid of my task killer. The one with auto end list. Anyone know how I can attain that again?
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^looking for that too, he means to Task Manager that was on the stock rom.

What for? Read up on task killers.
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Gvndeb60 said:
What for? Read up on task killers.
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I use it to kill a few rogue apps that don't like to turn off and destroy my battery, like Navigon.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...

Ok, just looked and I am running Greyblur and it has the stock task killer still there. Also on the gingerblur thread or site they have a zip file of stick bloatware, could be there.
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ccrows said:
^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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No problem, I'm just tired of Task Killer topics that sometimes end up in flame wars...

Gvndeb60 said:
Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
Most good task managers will help kill those apps and have the option to put certain apps on an exclude to kill list, which gives you control of what is running and what is not. A good way to figure things out is to kill all your running apps in the task manager and see what will restart. You can put the ones you want and need running, such as widgets and apps that get updates, on an exclude to kill list...that helps with the whole "battery drains because app keeps having to restart" argument as to why task managers are "bad." I use Autostarts to prevent apps i don't want running from starting for useless reasons and Advanced Task Manager to force close ones when I don't need them any longer. However, there is a learning curve as to what you shutdown or prevent from running, as it may affect other apps.

illmatic416 said:
If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
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That's the only thing that I miss about Eclair, you could truly lock that sh*t down... *sigh*

[Q] App to to be able to bypass Android Task Manager

Hello All,
I've been looking around and can't get any luck.
I was wondering if it would be possible for someone to develop an app which allows you to select apps that you want to bypass the built in Android Task Manager, so that they will not automatically be killed in the background.
If that makes sense.
Thanks.

Nobody up for the challenge?

Just Me said:
Nobody up for the challenge?
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It's not a challenge when mist task managers have an ignore list. Also task managers on Android is really kinda pointless, but that's just my 2 cents.

Apologies, I think I'm confusing you. I want to be able to, essentially, put an "ignore app" list on the built in android task manager. So that the app will always stay open.

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Apologies, I think I'm confusing you. I want to be able to, essentially, put an "ignore app" list on the built in android task manager. So that the app will always stay open.
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i dont get it.. so do you want the app to not be able to be killed by you or automatically by the task killer?
if its by you, then there is a simple solution. dont kill it.
if its by the task killer, then i dont know what task killer you have that is automatically killing your apps.
making an app system persistant can be a bit dangerous

The Android system will automatically close apps that are in the background, when it needs memory for another app (simplified).
I don't want it to do this for a specific app. If it were system persistant, I don't think it would be using enough resources to be a problem/dangerous.

you can look here for great info on how android's oom-killer works (oom is out-of-memory). nuts and bolts.
or if you're lazy you can just use ratson's autokiller app to temporarily boost specific app's oom settings. the link I gave is to part of his homepage.
good luck!

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you can look here for great info on how android's oom-killer works (oom is out-of-memory). nuts and bolts.
or if you're lazy you can just use ratson's autokiller app to temporarily boost specific app's oom settings. the link I gave is to part of his homepage.
good luck!
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This one looks interesting.
Thanks.

Messaging Application Remains Open

Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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It does, unfortunately I noticed this too but it uses little resource. It is annoying to see the open applications count as "one" when you have finished!

DeHann said:
Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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Apps like messaging and internet stay in the background even after you close it,because these apps are frequently used and they load faster the next time you use it,but dont worry the android OS will kill them eventually
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I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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DeHann said:
I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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It stays open for me also, If and when the resources get low enough it should close but since we have so much ram i don't think it will ever close. It doesn't really bother me.

Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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devilkin said:
Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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DeHann said:
Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???

when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away

achillies400 said:
Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???
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I am not sure why, really. All I am looking for is to have the Program Monitor display 0 instead of a 1...
I am famous for leaving unused tasks open and like to monitor for them using that widget. If I understand correctly running tasks consume CPU which, in turn, drains the battery.
I have noticed that the messaging app is not in the Battery usage list; so, at this point it is an annoyance more than anything...
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kryptoner said:
when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away
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Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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DeHann said:
Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...

kryptoner said:
I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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Thanks. I tried it and you are right. I ended up reverting though. Going to look into it more if/when I find time.
Hopefully it is not the same in the next firmware release; but, for now, it is only an annoyance.
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Advanced task killer
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Advanced task killer
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No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.

xeq544 said:
No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.
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I am running Watchdog app now & previously monitored the Battery Usage app and show no messaging application displayed. So, it is just an annoyance for me...
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kryptoner said:
I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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copied the sms app in the system/app folder, but when i try to install it, it says couldn`t install application

Weird battery drain

Sp i came home after work and saw my note was at 14% battery,weirdest thing when i left to work it was about 80,no internet or nothing was enabled,btw this is 2nd time happening like this,any thoughts?
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Yup:
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Mine is I left it to charge over night, close those no use app.
When this morning wake up, saw the display using about most of the battery.
Any app to see what proofread is using the battery so much?
P/s: can't upload picture, keep asking me to login but I had already login.
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That is mostly caused by some app, had that too and deleted a few apps i installed last rebooted and it disapeard.
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Any idea wht program can use to show what app are in use?
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Try Badass Battery Monitor

Look for Samsung Push Service in your apps list and un-install it!
If you use Samsung Apps, this program is automatically installed and stays active, won't let your phone go to sleep!

My battery stats!
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My battery stats!
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High system and OS percentage.

Hi thanks the suggestion...after install it I noticed there is an app called phone radio auto sync to internet...how do I uninstall it as I can't find it in my app list....
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henklbr said:
Look for Samsung Push Service in your apps list and un-install it!
If you use Samsung Apps, this program is automatically installed and stays active, won't let your phone go to sleep!
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Hi henklbr,
Thanks for the tip, I uninstalled it alrd...is there any other app tht I can get rid of?
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lhooipg said:
Hi henklbr,
Thanks for the tip, I uninstalled it alrd...is there any other app tht I can get rid of?
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Instead of trying to uninstall apps, installing Magic Locker allows you to set power saving and this could be very helpful. In my case it doubled the battery life and I now have around 60% left in the evening.
Hope this helps.

agboa said:
Instead of trying to uninstall apps, installing Magic Locker allows you to set power saving and this could be very helpful. In my case it doubled the battery life and I now have around 60% left in the evening.
Hope this helps.
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I try to search for one but turn up mostly is for theme, which one I suppose to select?
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lhooipg said:
Any idea wht program can use to show what app are in use?
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There are a number of Apps you can install that will show running applications ~ SystemPanel is one such app.
It comes in two variant ~ Paid & Free.
The free version is okay for looking at what your apps are doing but it does not offer the same level of service that the paid version gives and in this case you do need the paid version.
Full version ($2.99) adds app manager (installer/uninstaller with multi-version APK archival), and long-term application resource monitor to solve app-related battery life problems.
However, for finding out what apps are using your battery you can do this with your phone's built-in settings.
Just navigate to Settings/Applications/Running Services and look at what apps are currently running.
If you don't need a particular app running simply tap on it and select 'Stop'.
Job done that is one app no longer running in the background.
Another option is to again go to Settings/Applications/Battery Usage.
Here you not only see the graph at the top but also a list of main running apps (note not all are shown).
Tap the graph at the top and it shows you various parameters i.e. when the screen was on and when the device was awake. Basically you need both to be the same. If the phone's screen was off but it remained awake you then have an app running constantly in the background.
So, press the back button and look at the list of apps showing. To terminate an app simply tap on it and this time select 'Force Close'.
Spend a little time now and again popping over to these two places (Running Services & Battery Usage) and you should be able to identify what app or apps are eating your battery.

Beards said:
There are a number of Apps you can install that will show running applications ~ SystemPanel is one such app.
It comes in two variant ~ Paid & Free.
The free version is okay for looking at what your apps are doing but it does not offer the same level of service that the paid version gives and in this case you do need the paid version.
Full version ($2.99) adds app manager (installer/uninstaller with multi-version APK archival), and long-term application resource monitor to solve app-related battery life problems.
However, for finding out what apps are using your battery you can do this with your phone's built-in settings.
Just navigate to Settings/Applications/Running Services and look at what apps are currently running.
If you don't need a particular app running simply tap on it and select 'Stop'.
Job done that is one app no longer running in the background.
Another option is to again go to Settings/Applications/Battery Usage.
Here you not only see the graph at the top but also a list of main running apps (note not all are shown).
Tap the graph at the top and it shows you various parameters i.e. when the screen was on and when the device was awake. Basically you need both to be the same. If the phone's screen was off but it remained awake you then have an app running constantly in the background.
So, press the back button and look at the list of apps showing. To terminate an app simply tap on it and this time select 'Force Close'.
Spend a little time now and again popping over to these two places (Running Services & Battery Usage) and you should be able to identify what app or apps are eating your battery.
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Very well put...... +1

thanks...will try that first and see how's thing goes

MIUI
lhooipg said:
I try to search for one but turn up mostly is for theme, which one I suppose to select?
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In my case I chose MIUI but I think any theme should work as well. After installation it asked if I wanted to activate the battery saving mode which I accepted to check its performance as I was having battery drain as well and needed a solution.
I was happily surprised the next day. I hope all these issues are fixed by Samsung in ICS.

Best Battery Status with Chracks Rom.
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Does anyone know what is this phone radio app is? I try to find it at the app and want to uninstall cannot find...
How do I get rid of it?
Thank you.

lhooipg said:
Does anyone know what is this phone radio app is? I try to find it at the app and want to uninstall cannot find...
How do I get rid of it?
Thank you.
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Errrrrr...
That's your phone!