Hello All,
I've been looking around and can't get any luck.
I was wondering if it would be possible for someone to develop an app which allows you to select apps that you want to bypass the built in Android Task Manager, so that they will not automatically be killed in the background.
If that makes sense.
Thanks.
Nobody up for the challenge?
Just Me said:
Nobody up for the challenge?
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It's not a challenge when mist task managers have an ignore list. Also task managers on Android is really kinda pointless, but that's just my 2 cents.
Apologies, I think I'm confusing you. I want to be able to, essentially, put an "ignore app" list on the built in android task manager. So that the app will always stay open.
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Apologies, I think I'm confusing you. I want to be able to, essentially, put an "ignore app" list on the built in android task manager. So that the app will always stay open.
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i dont get it.. so do you want the app to not be able to be killed by you or automatically by the task killer?
if its by you, then there is a simple solution. dont kill it.
if its by the task killer, then i dont know what task killer you have that is automatically killing your apps.
making an app system persistant can be a bit dangerous
The Android system will automatically close apps that are in the background, when it needs memory for another app (simplified).
I don't want it to do this for a specific app. If it were system persistant, I don't think it would be using enough resources to be a problem/dangerous.
you can look here for great info on how android's oom-killer works (oom is out-of-memory). nuts and bolts.
or if you're lazy you can just use ratson's autokiller app to temporarily boost specific app's oom settings. the link I gave is to part of his homepage.
good luck!
bigsupersquid said:
you can look here for great info on how android's oom-killer works (oom is out-of-memory). nuts and bolts.
or if you're lazy you can just use ratson's autokiller app to temporarily boost specific app's oom settings. the link I gave is to part of his homepage.
good luck!
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This one looks interesting.
Thanks.
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Any android apps capable of doing this? I am noticing the amazon mp3 program keeps randomly starting. I would do a full unroot but such hassle for one issue already using unrevoked good enough for me.
Pretty much any task killer could do it. Autostarts, but Im not sure if you have to be rooted to use that.
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Pretty much any task killer could do it. Autostarts, but Im not sure if you have to be rooted to use that.
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well none have an option to select the program to block it from loading they just kill them at least advance app killer doesn't
Autostarts is the app you're looking for.
I keep seeing many apps running in the background when using Advanced Task Manager even right after I just start up my Xoom or right after I just kill the process and I was wondering if there is a way to stop these apps from starting up on their own?
msalem said:
I keep seeing many apps running in the background when using Advanced Task Manager even right after I just start up my Xoom or right after I just kill the process and I was wondering if there is a way to stop these apps from starting up on their own?
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Honeycomb frees up its own ram. Even though they appear to be running they are actually cached. If you go to settings, application, running services you will see what is truley running. On the top right hit cached and you will see the stuff that is open but not using CPU...ie not running.
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Do not use a task killer unless the app in question is truely stuck.
Running services will continue to open themselves after you close them. Memory is handled by the OS and you have plenty left, I promise.
If you believe an app is malfunctioning and eating up CPU cycles, uninstall it, forcing it to close will do nothing.
If an app is not a service and not in the foreground, it is not running.
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let them run, using a task manager is only making you drain more battery by having the apps continually restarting after force killing them.
honeycomb will manage your RAM and CPU just fine.
msalem said:
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Christ. Take that **** off your tablet! It's not necessary.
Repeat after me, people: "UNUSED RAM IS WASTED RAM", and "THE SYSTEM KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE ITS RAM BETTER'N YOU DO".
HTH
kcrudup said:
Christ. Take that **** off your tablet! It's not necessary.
Repeat after me, people: "UNUSED RAM IS WASTED RAM", and "THE SYSTEM KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE ITS RAM BETTER'N YOU DO".
HTH
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Task manager is the problem. Uninstall it right at the moment you see these comments!!!!
Thanks for all of your advice. I'm uninstalling it now.
I really wish they would stop developing that virus they call an app. And I wish Verizon would quit pushing it on customers.
I did the grey blur Rom, loving it, but when it got rid of all the bloatware it got rid of my task killer. The one with auto end list. Anyone know how I can attain that again?
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^looking for that too, he means to Task Manager that was on the stock rom.
What for? Read up on task killers.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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I use it to kill a few rogue apps that don't like to turn off and destroy my battery, like Navigon.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
Ok, just looked and I am running Greyblur and it has the stock task killer still there. Also on the gingerblur thread or site they have a zip file of stick bloatware, could be there.
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ccrows said:
^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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No problem, I'm just tired of Task Killer topics that sometimes end up in flame wars...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
Most good task managers will help kill those apps and have the option to put certain apps on an exclude to kill list, which gives you control of what is running and what is not. A good way to figure things out is to kill all your running apps in the task manager and see what will restart. You can put the ones you want and need running, such as widgets and apps that get updates, on an exclude to kill list...that helps with the whole "battery drains because app keeps having to restart" argument as to why task managers are "bad." I use Autostarts to prevent apps i don't want running from starting for useless reasons and Advanced Task Manager to force close ones when I don't need them any longer. However, there is a learning curve as to what you shutdown or prevent from running, as it may affect other apps.
illmatic416 said:
If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
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That's the only thing that I miss about Eclair, you could truly lock that sh*t down... *sigh*
Does anyone know how to clear multi task menu besides turning off the tablet?
Even though these processes may not be using any resources, I would like to keep that menu nice and clean.
thanks!
it's most likely possible but without the source code it will be very difficult to figure out how to do it.
I would think a task manager app would handle this....
leyvatron said:
I would think a task manager app would handle this....
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it's a list of recent apps, not running apps. if you kill them, they will still be there.
smaskell said:
it's a list of recent apps, not running apps. if you kill them, they will still be there.
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Exactly, I've tried looking everywhere and couldn't find any settings to clear the recent app list.
Can any1 point me to a task killer which will force kill apps.I am talking about something like the one click task kill in Lewaos rom status bar. Most task killers I have tried only kill apps and those apps come up again automatically. Please help me
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
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This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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onepinksheep said:
This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Okay okay!! Just chill. No need to get that aggressive on this topic. On my phone apps like facebook, friendcaster
etc keep draining battery.Now don't say these r useless too and I should stop using them. I know how android works with Ram and all that. Have been using this fone for over 18 months. I just want to know about dat kind of taskiller
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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That was some what helpful. Thanks
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Yeah I should probably close the receivers for boot receiver and connectivity change
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Use super task killer widget or make a shortcut of RUNNING SERVICES to your homescreen.
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you might also give System Panel a try..available at play store
Task Killer
Use Automatic Task Killer.free on gapps. U just have to select the apps u want to be killed and it kills them when ur screen is off.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autostarts, is paid, I would honestly actually pay for it, but till then I am pirate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Once I closed a receiver of poweramp and it didn't open up
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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which toolbox did u use? u should have USB debugging turned on
The whole debate surrounding task killers are stupid. Our phones have low memory and we are running custom built roms on our devices which tend to require more from our hardware in the case of ICS.
I like the ES TaskManager/File Explorer combo, has a nice task manager, autostart feature and apk backups.