Bootloader unlock for motorola devices!!!! - Milestone 2 General

Motorola today launched the program to unlock bootloader on moto devices.
Only 4 models are supported atm, but we can hope for the future (for milestone 2 too)
Look here:
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I saw it ont he portal. Hope we don't have to wait too long in order to have it.

fugitifduck said:
I saw it ont he portal. Hope we don't have to wait too long in order to have it.
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Fingers crossed
So if they do unlock the M2's bootloader, what can we expect? Still running Endless GB & I don't know how much more an unlocked bootloader can improve the situation...

terayder said:
Fingers crossed
So if they do unlock the M2's bootloader, what can we expect? Still running Endless GB & I don't know how much more an unlocked bootloader can improve the situation...
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Tezet posted in his CM10 thread about what it brings to unlock the bootloader, and from memory it's :
- newer custom kernels
- no need for boostrap anymore, we could use more "regular" recovery (like all other phones)
- easier hardware support
- possibility probably to reformat the phone partitions
- more and easier customization instead of "fiddling" with the phone;
But he said too to not expect that for the MS2, and that he thought that the only chance for something "like" that for the MS2 was probably Kexec (a bootloader hijacker which would allow quite some things).

Ashareth said:
But he said too to not expect that for the MS2, and that he thought that the only chance for something "like" that for the MS2 was probably Kexec (a bootloader hijacker which would allow quite some things).
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To confirm that and not to burst anyone's bubble
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-has-no-plans-to-unlock-older-devices-20120822/
Not gonna happen for older devices i.e. for MS2 as well

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Speak up to Asus!

Don't know if this would actually work but it's better trying than doing nothing.
ReTweet this or create your own tweet asking Asus to unlock their boot loader and give us better root access to their transformer:
Edited tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/stevegaron/status/76007197145960448
We may want to speak up on their facebook page too... http://www.facebook.com/ASUS?sk=wall
It worked for HTC...
Tenny said:
It worked for HTC...
(FYI: Easier not easyier)
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Damn! I think I made it obvious that english is not my first language... I changed the tweet...
steve.garon said:
Damn! I think I made it obvious that english is not my first language... I changed the tweet...
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Wait so we aren't going to resort to kidnappings and firebombs....man, hate this place.
I'm confused.
I thought the bootloader was unlocked...
Or are you talking about APX mode being locked? If that's the case, then I'm with you on that one. Without a functioning APX mode, I am scared to do anything to my Eee Pad. I couldn't count how many times I've soft bricked my GTab and APX saved my bum!
and why should this thread be in the development section?
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and why should this thread be in the development section?
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Just because it would help make dev easier. So I thought it belong here.
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KnightCrusader said:
I thought the bootloader was unlocked...
Or are you talking about APX mode being locked? If that's the case, then I'm with you on that one. Without a functioning APX mode, I am scared to do anything to my Eee Pad. I couldn't count how many times I've soft bricked my GTab and APX saved my bum!
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Unless I misunderstood what lock bootloader are, I beleive its locked. It requires root to flash another recovery/rom and requires an exploit to get root. That pretty locked for me
I would be much more fun if you could just do a fasboot flash recovery like the Nexus phones ;-)
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Did my part on facebook....
I posted on their wall too
hope they follow like HTC did
steve.garon said:
Unless I misunderstood what lock bootloader are, I beleive its locked. It requires root to flash another recovery/rom and requires an exploit to get root. That pretty locked for me
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Go to the Acer Iconia A500 forums, and then you'll find out what a "locked bootloader" really is.
What you should really be asking for is simply official root access, without having to find an exploit. Note that HTC have only said they are ending their policy of locking the bootloaders on their phones - as far as I'm aware they've said nothing about giving official root access.
Regards,
Dave
The never ending discussion about what a locked bootloader is, is useless because it depends on your definition on "locked". If "locked" means that it checks signatures before flashing or booting, then yes, the Eee Pad bootloader is unlocked. If however "locked" means that you have no way of recovering from a system/recovery fail, then the ASUS EeePad is very well locked down. The only way around this would be fastboot and/or nvflash access which we don't have.
So as opposed to the Xoom or other Tegra devices like the G2x etc, the ASUS bootloader is locked, and the only way of flashing boot/recovery is through a (admittedly simple) reverse engineering process. That is a shame, and also could be locked down anytime by ASUS if they were sigchecking those updates in the bootloader (though I think that's unlikely to happen).
So in my opinion ASUS shouldn't announce that the bootloader is open etc, when at the same time they do not provide a documented flashing method.
Equally though, I agree that there is no practical sense in complaining or doing further work on this, because all people care about is flashing boot/recovery (unless they are bricked of course...).
stridger said:
The never ending discussion about what a locked bootloader is, is useless because it depends on your definition on "locked". If "locked" means that it checks signatures before flashing or booting, then yes, the Eee Pad bootloader is unlocked. If however "locked" means that you have no way of recovering from a system/recovery fail, then the ASUS EeePad is very well locked down. The only way around this would be fastboot and/or nvflash access which we don't have.
So as opposed to the Xoom or other Tegra devices like the G2x etc, the ASUS bootloader is locked, and the only way of flashing boot/recovery is through a (admittedly simple) reverse engineering process. That is a shame, and also could be locked down anytime by ASUS if they were sigchecking those updates in the bootloader (though I think that's unlikely to happen).
So in my opinion ASUS shouldn't announce that the bootloader is open etc, when at the same time they do not provide a documented flashing method.
Equally though, I agree that there is no practical sense in complaining or doing further work on this, because all people care about is flashing boot/recovery (unless they are bricked of course...).
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Well put. We need either fastboot or Nvflash access.. just eliminates any sort of risk we have while messing with our TFs
r34p3rex said:
Well put. We need either fastboot or Nvflash access.. just eliminates any sort of risk we have while messing with our TFs
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Then that's what should be asked of Asus, rather than "unlocked bootloader" which is open to interpretation!
Regards,
Dave
I don't think that downgrading is a viable option for installing a custom Rom. Just because we can downgrade now, doesn't mean we will be able to in the future. Beside, having to rely on an exploit is also to me not a viable option. I'd rather have the exploits fixed! It's safer that way.
The fact that the boot loader is not signed, NAND locked or encrypted is a big plus and I congratulate Asus for this. It's a good design decision. But the missing ingredient for the completely unlock bootloader is the tool the allows us to flash anything from the bootloader...
If in the end Asus give us fastboot/nvflash access to the bootloader well to me its a win for all Transformer's owners. This is even a win for Asus because most devs would go for hardware that they can easily modify which would increase sales. (Not that sales are a problem right now.. )
How's this then?
Please @Asus give us a fastboot/nvflash and official root access - like the Google Nexus phones - for your amazing #eeepadtransformer!
jerdog said:
How's this then?
Please @Asus give us a fastboot/nvflash and official root access - like the Google Nexus phones - for your amazing #eeepadtransformer!
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Works for me... Tweet it!
steve.garon said:
Works for me... Tweet it!
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http://twitter.com/#!/jerdog76/status/76296399330873346
done.
foxmeister said:
Then that's what should be asked of Asus, rather than "unlocked bootloader" which is open to interpretation!
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Dave
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Yeah, thats what I asked them for when I posted a message on their Facebook wall.
I just posted on their FB page

Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.
Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
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I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone
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Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)
I'd add this to Pro:
If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?
Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.
It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?
Cons one by one:
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- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
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True, but obvious.
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- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
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Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^
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- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
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Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.
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- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
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Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.
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- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
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No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)
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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
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Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !
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You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).
So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.
We should be promoting "unlock the world"
This is not to imply everything should be free, however if I own something it should be mine in every regard, that includes breaking it.
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@skrilax thanks for you work on the a500.
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I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
Once again.
A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.
B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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To end my part in this discussion: The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
Darbness said:
I have xt925, first thing I did was unlock boot loader. Then I updated ota to Telstra JB. OP is misleading people.
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Have you tried out lte tethering? It doesn't work on Rogers.
To epinter -
I disagree from the op.
Every change to device firmware compromises the warranty, not just bootloader, read the agreements ... If you exploit a bug to have root access, you will have to fool everyone who will have contact with your phone so they don't see what you have done. Even if you try to "reverse" the root, you(or the program you use) will always leave a trace.http://www.linuxmobile
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I did not notice your response at first, now to the point -
Without any disrespect to the work, time & effort invested, the main point is being ignored by the developers: All comments I got on this OP didn't touched the number one reason of my suggestion to not unlock the bootloader: There in not really enough of a variety of development options today to justification the bootloader unlocked of the xt925.
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Cons one by one:
Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
Tombs1234 said:
At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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The limitations, restrictions & disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader are much greater then any benefit or gain under the current availability of development !
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It's your decision whether to unlock the bootloader or not. I'm just saying (for other users) that many of the cons you wrote were absolutely incorrect.
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Can someone elaborate on this point; I read in another thread that when you remove all rooted apps and data, clear out the files left in /system, that there is still info stored stated if the device has ever been rooted, and that this can be cleared using an app on a PC (don't remember which) however when I looked at the app it was specific to the XT926 and thus I wouldn't be able to use it.
After a thorough clean of every rooted app and everything left behind by rooted apps, is there a known way (or assumed to be working way) on XT925 to erase the record of the root.
Also, assuming I was to get my phone back to that state and remove proof of root, what specifically do I need to do in order to be careful as stated... or is epinter correct in saying that there is always a trace left behind, and if so, is this a blatant trace or something that hasn't been of much concern for Motorola in the past when servicing phones?
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I believe there is something stored in the pds partition. Or at least it is that way on Droid RAZR XT912 and you had to fix it to remove the remaining traces. Flashing FXZ is also a way how to get a clean stock firmware, but pds partition is not affected that way.
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How would I return to a stock bootloader if I were to unlock mine and an OTA didn't work? How did you do it?
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I think he meant "stock firmware" instead of "stock bootloader"
So if that were the case on this phone, I wonder if doing a dd backup of the pds partition before rooting at ICS, for restoring after downgrade, would be the way to go. Assuming it restores properly, it would be a good thing to add to the sticky thread about rooting. I did a dd of all my partitions except for /data last night, but I'm already rooted.
hmm... I'm wondering if there's something inaccessable in /system or even the sdcard since they get mounted with fuse. My only other Android phone was the Galaxy S II which was pretty straightforward and dead simple to root and unroot. I was surprised to see the fuse module being used to mount anything when I got this one.
The original topic is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857558
I don't know if there was a proper fix developed (haven't checked) on the RAZR.

[Q] Gonna be getting this when my plan is up, few questions.

I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
aviwdoowks said:
I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
DubleJayJ said:
So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
DubleJayJ said:
So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover

[Request] Root for Z3C (D5803) -> Solved

HI @all,
now that we have a FW for the device - is root possible?
All known root methods are not working.
BR
UserX10
Edit:
Solved -> Thanks you DooMLoRD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...58xx-cwm-based-recovery-6-0-4-7-root-t2890231
Delete.
Jeez.
People haven't even got their hands on the phone yet...
Be patient
Anyone wanna try Framaroot?
http://framaroot.net/index.html
framaroot does not work ...
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
plisk3n said:
Ok because I saw it posted on this blog and thought it would work. Strange!
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Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
CollinsJ said:
Well, it says "tested on device" and is from 9/4, before the device was even unavailable. I'd be careful that apk isn't something more.
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Yeah that's also the reason why I decided not to download it, I'll just wait till someone @ XDA finds a way to root the device. It's not like we'll die because our device isn't rooted for x weeks/months.
Weeks/months?! I would die! It's been a day and the amount of things I can't do is driving me nuts!
If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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If you have an unlocked boot loader see what I say at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55709585. If you don't I think you'll be waiting for a while - someone needs to find an exploit and write the app/code needed to exploit it. This has become increasingly hard as Android has become more secure - before Towelroot AFAIK the Z1/Z2 was not rootable for a long time. You'd probably be waiting a similar length of time for the next big root exploit.
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Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
mudnightoil said:
Would it not be helpful to contact Sony themselves? They're increasingly developer friendly, these days. Maybe they'd be willing to offer pointers to root app developers?
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Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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tilal6991 said:
Well I know people at Sony and long story short: if you want root unlock the boot loader. Its as simple as that. You have to understand that while a root exploit looks nice to tinkerers its also a serious security issue which must be fixed - that is why many root solutions also patch the exploit they use after using it.
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I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
sublimnl said:
Does unlocking the bootloader require wiping the phone? I know this is required on the nexus phones. If it requires wipe then its the very first thing I'm doing once I get the phone out of the box.
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Yes. It will wipe everything AFAIK - double check with the website.
mudnightoil said:
I'm aware of this ... but on the one hand being one of the few if only manufacturers to provide official unlocking for the bootloaders (with the obvious intention of spurring development etc), but on the other actively closing non-simple (i.e. ones requiring a dedicated program) root 'exploits' would seem a little at odds. Is it really that black and white? You'd think it might be in their interests to provide an official complex / secure rooting method.
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Your statements contradict themselves. Rooting without unlocking the bootloader needs a security flaw. How can any method which leaves a security hole be secure?
Bootloader unlocking gets around this by letting you control the boot partition of the device so you can disable the "security barrier" that android provides. This is a choice you are explicitly making which is why it is the only "secure" way to root.
Does towelroot work?
MrOeyta said:
Does towelroot work?
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Unfortunately Towelroot does not work.
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
tacocats said:
I've read some people saying that unlocking the bootloader causes you to lose your DRM keys which apparently would affect software/ camera issues?
Can anyone verify this?
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This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
dillalade said:
This is very true. On the z1c I neglected to back up the TA partition. And apparently lost native mirror cast and some camera features when I rolled the device back to stock.
Back up your TA partition before unlocking BL.
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Any idea how this could be done?

LG unlocks officially the bootloader

So it seems that LG is finally officially unlocking the bootloader.
So far only on some G4s but i think this will come also to the G3.
source: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_now_ship...and_it_is_starting_with_the_g4-news-12496.php
ucraiova88 said:
So it seems that LG is finally officially unlocking the bootloader.
So far only on some G4s but i think this will come also to the G3.
source: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_now_ship...and_it_is_starting_with_the_g4-news-12496.php
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Hopefully this gives us a UX 4 port sooner, at least until I save up for the G4. [emoji14]
Very good news thanks LG ..but are this will come also to the G3.????
So i was just curious...
Is there anything we can't do with bump unless we have unlocked bootloader?
reza1995live said:
So i was just curious...
Is there anything we can't do with bump unless we have unlocked bootloader?
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Maybe A different operating system like Win10. or change boot screen to remove Powered by Android?
Many possibility by unlocking Bootloader
JustPlayingHard said:
Maybe A different operating system like Win10. or change boot screen to remove Powered by Android?
Many possibility by unlocking Bootloader
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I hope so
Here is LG's Bootloader unlock website. I guess keep an eye out here for when they add more devices, hopefully they add the G3.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?resourceId=RS00000875
So what(if any) implications will an official bootloader unlock have for those who have Bump'd? Will ROM dev's have to provide two versions of their ROMs - one for official unlock and one Bump'd?
I guess we can all use flashtools unroot unbump and start from scratch, if we do get a boot loader unlock from LG
This will never come to the US due to carrier restrictions. If you are outside of the US, there might be a small glimmer of hope.
sic0048 said:
This will never come to the US due to carrier restrictions. If you are outside of the US, there might be a small glimmer of hope.
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That stinks.

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