First Full Battery Run Down - Galaxy Note 10.1 General

I think it's pretty decent. Should improve after a few cycles.

Looks good! What was your screen on time?

my battery doing great so far. my battery is at 50% right now. over 12hrs. total time so far. check this though, a lil over 6hrs. of screen on time and I still have 50% battery left. wifi left on always. screenshots attached.

demandarin said:
my battery doing great so far. my battery is at 50% right now. over 12hrs. total time so far. check this though, a lil over 6hrs. of screen on time and I still have 50% battery left. wifi left on always. screenshots attached.
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OMG! I'm shocked the seas haven't parted or that we haven't found alien life on another planet. Demandarin owning a Samsung tablet is a day I thought I'd never see. Who cares what you think about the battery. What are your first impressions of the h/w and s/w? I hope you keep it. It'll be a blast owning the same device and sharing the same forum.

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I think it's pretty decent. Should improve after a few cycles.
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Is that the 3g version?
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Is that the 3g version?
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Yes.

Impressive
BarryH_GEG said:
OMG! I'm shocked the seas haven't parted or that we haven't found alien life on another planet. Demandarin owning a Samsung tablet is a day I thought I'd never see. Who cares what you think about the battery. What are your first impressions of the h/w and s/w? I hope you keep it. It'll be a blast owning the same device and sharing the same forum.
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First Impressions:
I really like it.
H/w: I like the feel of it. it feels solid. it may be made of plastic but doesn't feel cheap. it looks and feels high quality. I have the 16gb. White one. got it from best buy. it was all they had. I might return it and get the 32gb version. its worth the extra 50. we will see as I have 30 days to test it out and decide if I need higher storage one. I'm loving the True stereo speakers. easily the best sound of any tablet or phone. big speakers also. they increased the size of them from galaxy tab 2(saw in a video comparison). Build quality overall very good. the exynos quad core is fast also. I can't do a fair comparison to prime tegra3 because its software wasn't at 100%. but compared to jb on my nexus7(tegra3), this is just as fast if not faster. battery life is great, so far. look at my previous post with screen shots attached. it was on over 12hrs. A LiL over 6hrs. On screen time. I still had 50% battery life yet. IM guessing that 32nm Soc process really helps to keep temps low & stretch battery life out. seems very efficient. wifi performance is stellar. no issues with it at all. plus this supports 5ghz. Band & has channel bonding. impressive
S/w: j/b out the box wouldve been perfect. T/w not as bad as I thought. I got rid of those stock widget boxes like media hub, music hub, etc.. Everything runs very smooth. Ics performs great on this tablet. no anr at all so far. I will go into dev. Options and cut off animations. the ui will be even faster afterwards. I love the s pen integration. IM still learning how to use it to full capacity. amazed how well & precise it is. plus I have sketchbook mobile. stock browser is very fast. I sideloaded flash so everything is good. IM also impressed w/ the Ir remote control app. works very well. tested it out on my dads plasma. he was stoked at how I could do that. plus it shows TV programming on it on what's on or coming on. Then you press one and it'll switch channels to selected show. overall s/w is good. can't wait to see how this is once jb arrives. this tablet really will fly then.
IM still putting tablet through the paces. slot to learn w/ t/w & s pen.
P.s. Samsung released official Note 10.1 guide/manual app in the playstore. I recommend getting it. very detailed and will help to make most of the S pen.
I will likely keep it. still have 30 days to test out. my only question is do I want to keep 16gb one or return it for 32 gb one once best buy gets them in. I like the white colored one. unless they make a blue, ill stick with white.

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Oh duh, I just noticed the H+ icon Nice, the battery life on the wifi version should be excellent then.
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demandarin said:
First Impressions:
I really like it.
H/w: I like the feel of it. it feels solid. it may be made of plastic but doesn't feel cheap. it looks and feels high quality. I have the 16gb. White one. got it from best buy. it was all they had. I might return it and get the 32gb version. its worth the extra 50. we will see as I have 30 days to test it out and decide if I need higher storage one. I'm loving the True stereo speakers. easily the best sound of any tablet or phone. big speakers also. they increased the size of them from galaxy tab 2(saw in a video comparison). Build quality overall very good. the exynos quad core is fast also. I can't do a fair comparison to prime tegra3 because its software wasn't at 100%. but compared to jb on my nexus7(tegra3), this is just as fast if not faster. battery life is great, so far. look at my previous post with screen shots attached. it was on over 12hrs. A LiL over 6hrs. On screen time. I still had 50% battery life yet. IM guessing that 32nm Soc process really helps to keep temps low & stretch battery life out. seems very efficient. wifi performance is stellar. no issues with it at all. plus this supports 5ghz. Band & has channel bonding. impressive
S/w: j/b out the box wouldve been perfect. T/w not as bad as I thought. I got rid of those stock widget boxes like media hub, music hub, etc.. Everything runs very smooth. Ics performs great on this tablet. no anr at all so far. I will go into dev. Options and cut off animations. the ui will be even faster afterwards. I love the s pen integration. IM still learning how to use it to full capacity. amazed how well & precise it is. plus I have sketchbook mobile. stock browser is very fast. I sideloaded flash so everything is good. IM also impressed w/ the Ir remote control app. works very well. tested it out on my dads plasma. he was stoked at how I could do that. plus it shows TV programming on it on what's on or coming on. Then you press one and it'll switch channels to selected show. overall s/w is good. can't wait to see how this is once jb arrives. this tablet really will fly then.
IM still putting tablet through the paces. slot to learn w/ t/w & s pen.
P.s. Samsung released official Note 10.1 guide/manual app in the playstore. I recommend getting it. very detailed and will help to make most of the S pen.
I will likely keep it. still have 30 days to test out. my only question is do I want to keep 16gb one or return it for 32 gb one once best buy gets them in. I like the white colored one. unless they make a blue, ill stick with white.
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Hmmm. It looks like they might have outed the galaxy note 2 phone in the manual. Or maybe a mockup.

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Hmmm. It looks like they might have outed the galaxy note 2 phone in the manual. Or maybe a mockup.
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Good observation.

demandarin said:
First Impressions:
I really like it.
H/w: I like the feel of it. it feels solid. it may be made of plastic but doesn't feel cheap. it looks and feels high quality. I have the 16gb. White one. got it from best buy. it was all they had. I might return it and get the 32gb version. its worth the extra 50. we will see as I have 30 days to test it out and decide if I need higher storage one. I'm loving the True stereo speakers. easily the best sound of any tablet or phone. big speakers also. they increased the size of them from galaxy tab 2(saw in a video comparison). Build quality overall very good. the exynos quad core is fast also. I can't do a fair comparison to prime tegra3 because its software wasn't at 100%. but compared to jb on my nexus7(tegra3), this is just as fast if not faster. battery life is great, so far. look at my previous post with screen shots attached. it was on over 12hrs. A LiL over 6hrs. On screen time. I still had 50% battery life yet. IM guessing that 32nm Soc process really helps to keep temps low & stretch battery life out. seems very efficient. wifi performance is stellar. no issues with it at all. plus this supports 5ghz. Band & has channel bonding. impressive
S/w: j/b out the box wouldve been perfect. T/w not as bad as I thought. I got rid of those stock widget boxes like media hub, music hub, etc.. Everything runs very smooth. Ics performs great on this tablet. no anr at all so far. I will go into dev. Options and cut off animations. the ui will be even faster afterwards. I love the s pen integration. IM still learning how to use it to full capacity. amazed how well & precise it is. plus I have sketchbook mobile. stock browser is very fast. I sideloaded flash so everything is good. IM also impressed w/ the Ir remote control app. works very well. tested it out on my dads plasma. he was stoked at how I could do that. plus it shows TV programming on it on what's on or coming on. Then you press one and it'll switch channels to selected show. overall s/w is good. can't wait to see how this is once jb arrives. this tablet really will fly then.
IM still putting tablet through the paces. slot to learn w/ t/w & s pen.
P.s. Samsung released official Note 10.1 guide/manual app in the playstore. I recommend getting it. very detailed and will help to make most of the S pen.
I will likely keep it. still have 30 days to test out. my only question is do I want to keep 16gb one or return it for 32 gb one once best buy gets them in. I like the white colored one. unless they make a blue, ill stick with white.
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Could u post link to play store pl3ase?

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Could u post link to play store pl3ase?
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Fairly sure what is meant is the Samsung App store, making it a bit difficult to post a link.

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WOW, now THAT is great ....................
Will try to get the same endurance ..............

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Could u post link to play store pl3ase?
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Fairly sure what is meant is the Samsung App store, making it a bit difficult to post a link.
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I actually got the manual from playstore. just type Samsung galaxy note 10.1 guide in search box. its a free app/guide.

You can find it here now:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.samsung.galaxy.note10_1

Thanks. I found it online at Sammy, couldn't find it at the Play Store. Probably just being dense.
Had to stop mid-post - my GNote just arrived. Plugged in and charging as I type.

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Trade xoom for note10.1?

After watching some demonstation of note10.1 , i really feel like to get one, if its not too pricey.
Anyway, can anyone give me some opinon about this?
I owned a razr, n after comparing with s2 (almost same spec), s2 is much more laggy than my razr due to the touchwiz ui.
But s3 seems better anyway.
I m using xoom with eos jellybean now n the speed is awesome, sometimes i might think that i m using a quad core device.
So is trade xoom for note10.1 a good choice?
Sry for my extremely bad English . I really need some suggestion
omnia1994 said:
After watching some demonstation of note10.1 , i really feel like to get one, if its not too pricey.
Anyway, can anyone give me some opinon about this?
I owned a razr, n after comparing with s2 (almost same spec), s2 is much more laggy than my razr due to the touchwiz ui.
But s3 seems better anyway.
I m using xoom with eos jellybean now n the speed is awesome, sometimes i might think that i m using a quad core device.
So is trade xoom for note10.1 a good choice?
Sry for my extremely bad English . I really need some suggestion
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Its no alternatives to xoom right mow, imho
One thing that caught my eye is that aside from the Quad core processor, the Galaxy Note 10.1 is running on 2 GB of ram!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/3229853/galaxy-note-10-1-release-date-price-hong-kong
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One thing that caught my eye is that aside from the Quad core processor, the Galaxy Note 10.1 is running on 2 GB of ram!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/3229853/galaxy-note-10-1-release-date-price-hong-kong
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Same here, thats really awesome.
Somemore there r floating keyboard, s note calculation , floating video player etc, all these are really amazing features
I might pick one up just for the helluvit. I really like my sg note and my xoom, but I've also really gotten attached to the s-pen.
If Motorola doesn't get in gear and release a kick ass tablet to replace the xoom, I think its going to be hard for them to get back into the game.
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Just saw that the n8000 makes calls. Thia is a killer feature I've been waiting for on a 10.1 tablet. Maybe eos guys can pick one up in a bounty.... hint hint.
If kc, brd or solz gets one, I'm there too.
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Originally I was dead set on replacing my Xoom with a Note 10.1, because some of the features sound really useful (such as side-by-side apps, pressure sensitive notes taking, etc).
But after reading the reviews yesterday... well it sounds really disappointing So I am going to wait for the coming software updates and price drops, before re-considering it.
The only thing about the Note that I like is stylus. The rest is pretty meh.
I'll wait another year before considering replacement. The Xoom has plenty of life left in it.
Mine arrives tomorrow... will test over the weekend and report back. I have and still do love my xoom and use it daily, but my GNote has convinced me of the value of the wacom digitizer technology. Should know by Monday whether its a realistic xoom replacement.
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Mine arrives tomorrow... will test over the weekend and report back. I have and still do love my xoom and use it daily, but my GNote has convinced me of the value of the wacom digitizer technology. Should know by Monday whether its a realistic xoom replacement.
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Waiting for ur report n pls tell us if the device is suitable for gaming.. in pics the corner of the device looks toothick to hold for gaming
what's this about being too thick... its bezel on the flanks is a bit wider, but that's for the speakers. And its around ~200grams lighter than our xoom.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
what's this about being too thick... its bezel on the flanks is a bit wider, but that's for the speakers. And its around ~200grams lighter than our xoom.
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Sry i mean the corner is abit too wide
omnia1994 said:
Sry i mean the corner is abit too wide
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Just opened the box so haven't even turned it on, yet... but does this pic of the corner edge (beside the xoom corner edge) help you?
Initial impression in the hand is pretty good. Not the tank that my xoom is (have always felt I could use it for personal protection if necessary), but not cheap-feeling either. A bit lighter and thinner than our xoom, but the bezel around the screen is larger meaning the entire device is a little taller and wider than our xoom despite the same functional screen size. I do think the weight loss and less sharp edges will make long sessions more comfortable.
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Just opened the box so haven't even turned it on, yet... but does this pic of the corner edge (beside the xoom corner edge) help you?
Initial impression in the hand is pretty good. Not the tank that my xoom is (have always felt I could use it for personal protection if necessary), but not cheap-feeling either. A bit lighter and thinner than our xoom, but the bezel around the screen is larger meaning the entire device is a little taller and wider than our xoom despite the same functional screen size. I do think the weight loss and less sharp edges will make long sessions more comfortable.
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Thx for ur information, but what i mean is the length between the corner of the screen to device's corner.. sry for my bad english
omnia1994 said:
Thx for ur information, but what i mean is the length between the corner of the screen to device's corner.. sry for my bad english
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Here is a shot of both from the front. It is a bit larger, but not much.
Early use has been positive. I was a little worried about the screen at first but then realized the autobrightness is darker than my taste in low-light settings. Setting brightness manually, the note's screen is brighter & clearer than the XOOM. It is also a warmer screen than XOOM. I never disliked XOOM's screen, but colors do seem truer on Note whereas they all had a coder bluish tint on XOOM'
The note is quite snappy ... I'm impressed. I've been running EOS JB on my XOOM, so wasn't thrilled about going back to ICS, but this HW makes ICS seem better than I remember it I suspect it will really prove itself on JB,or if we can get Eos on the case.
The coolest thing is that I've written this entire post with my S-pen. I have awful handwriting that meanders from print to cursive & back, but Note had almost no problems translating
Will have more time to put this thing through its paces tomorrow -buta good 1st impression!
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Here is a shot of both from the front. It is a bit larger, but not much.
Early use has been positive. I was a little worried about the screen at first but then realized the autobrightness is darker than my taste in low-light settings. Setting brightness manually, the note's screen is brighter & clearer than the XOOM. It is also a warmer screen than XOOM. I never disliked XOOM's screen, but colors do seem truer on Note whereas they all had a coder bluish tint on XOOM'
The note is quite snappy ... I'm impressed. I've been running EOS JB on my XOOM, so wasn't thrilled about going back to ICS, but this HW makes ICS seem better than I remember it I suspect it will really prove itself on JB,or if we can get Eos on the case.
The coolest thing is that I've written this entire post with my S-pen. I have awful handwriting that meanders from print to cursive & back, but Note had almost no problems translating
Will have more time to put this thing through its paces tomorrow -buta good 1st impression!
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tq very much =)
The note 10.1 will be awesome once custom ROMs like cm10 go on there to unleash the true power. Sucks that the s-pen is only fully compatible with Samsung based apps, hopefully app developers will make equivalents that support it.
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Well, didnt get as much time to play on it today and dont have but a few minutes to update this thread - will try to add more detail tomorrow.
In summary, though, I am thoroughly impressed with this tablet. Notwithstanding that the EOS JB experience on my Xoom was unbelievably smooth and this ia a (hopefully short-term) step back to ICS, the Note makes it remarkably snappy and smooth.
S-pen functionality is great, and multitasking windows works well... little to no lag.
Battery life has been phenomenal (approaching 40 hrs with 7 screen on)... Ive posted a few screenshots of battery life. No problems with deep sleep.
Hopefully more tomorrow or Tuesday, but the short recommendation is to go get one.
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Well, didnt get as much time to play on it today and dont have but a few minutes to update this thread - will try to add more detail tomorrow.
In summary, though, I am thoroughly impressed with this tablet. Notwithstanding that the EOS JB experience on my Xoom was unbelievably smooth and this ia a (hopefully short-term) step back to ICS, the Note makes it remarkably snappy and smooth.
S-pen functionality is great, and multitasking windows works well... little to no lag.
Battery life has been phenomenal (approaching 40 hrs with 7 screen on)... Ive posted a few screenshots of battery life. No problems with deep sleep.
Hopefully more tomorrow or Tuesday, but the short recommendation is to go get one.
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Did u root it?
What happen if u uninstall a samsung apps that have samsung small window widgets? (I dont know what that calls, the small window app thatappear after pressing the arrow at thecenter of notification bar)
Will it disaapeared in the small windows widget bar too?
and, does the stock video player plays flv movies?
Sry for mybad description lol

OMG i love this tablet!

This was a very hard decision for me to return my beloved tf700 as im loving the super high resolution on this unit and the all metal case but i still pulled the trigger and replace it with the note 10.1 . After readiing some negative review on this tablet im still optimistic that this tablet will exceed my expection and it did surpass my expectation on this tablet . I love this tablet, this is the only tablet that is almost as easy to browse as the ipad 3 in terms of smoothness almost lag free on the native browser , the pen is very usefull for sketching , the case even though its made of plastic it doesnt feel cheap at all .
The micro sd card is fast compared to the tf700
I love the speaker placement and you really hear the stereo separation.
The design is lovely specially in white.
Although the lcd has a lower resolution it still very bright with very good color saturation , never at all miss my tf700 higher dpi .
Build quality is very good , fit and finish is perfect.
No light bleed .
No slowdown even with multiple apps running on the background made possible by the built in 2gb system memory.
This in my opinion the only tablet that can really compete with the ipad . Overall im a very happy camper...
I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
Yea I returned TF700 and decided to buy this one after searching for a new tablet.
It is so much better than TF700 in almost every way, with the only obvious exception being the screen. The screen is great except for lower pixel density which is especially visible when web browsing. But for me, Note 10.1 is a very easy win over TF700.
Agreed! The Infinity definitely felt more solidly built and the screen wins by a landslide but that's where the competition ends. The Note wins in every other way that I can see.
This thing flies and all the basic functionality (like WiFi and GPS) that didn't work on my Prime and barely worked on my Infinity works like an absolute charm on the Note.
Those of you concerned about the pixelation in the stock browser check out Maxthon Browser for Tablets. The text looks much better and believe it or not I think it may actually be faster.
I returned the tf700 also for this. This tablet is light years better than the prime and infinity performance wise. Those dudes in the tf700 forum are delusional thinking it out performs this.
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demandarin said:
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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Here you go:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...ng_Icecream_English_120803_PC/start_here.html
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/GT-N8000EAABTU-downloads
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/download/supportGlobalDownloadPrdDetail.do
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.co.samsung.galexy.note10
crystalstylez said:
I returned the tf700 also for this. This tablet is light years better than the prime and infinity performance wise. Those dudes in the tf700 forum are delusional thinking it out performs this.
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I agree I am not looking back .....my prime had gps and wifi issues and green camera rma 'd it for a return and bought the tf700 I had it for 2 days i/o issues and the same browser lags as the prime .......hello galaxy note 10.1 :good:
Gave my tab1 to my mother(big mistake 300% more spam in my mail account ) bought the tab2. I've returned the tab2 for my note, now I'am happier than ever.
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qnfauf said:
Yea I returned TF700 and decided to buy this one after searching for a new tablet.
It is so much better than TF700 in almost every way, with the only obvious exception being the screen. The screen is great except for lower pixel density which is especially visible when web browsing. But for me, Note 10.1 is a very easy win over TF700.
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Try the Maxthon HD browser. It does fonts much better.
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demandarin said:
I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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Hey demandarian aren't you the guy who was so high on the prime? The one who wouldn't let anyone say anything bad about the obvious design flaws of that tab?
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Hey demandarian aren't you the guy who was so high on the prime? The one who wouldn't let anyone say anything bad about the obvious design flaws of that tab?
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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This +1
I will be trying mine out as well soon. If it does not meet my needs, I will exchange it for my 3rd infinity
I am also impressed with the note 10.1 I have been thru a few tabs . Archos, xoom, than TFR 101, got so frustrated with the probes with android bugs on th TFR I jumped ship and bought an iPad 2. I needed to judge for myself . At first I enjoyed the iPad alot. It was smooth and reliable. Rooted it and like it evenmore. Looking back i see i was always searching for ways to do tasks on the ipad2 that are easier and standard on android. I use my tablets alot for work and believe it or not it the ipad2 fit in well there. I was waiting for the note to come out and when it did i knew i needed it. First i hesitated with some of ther reviews. But than said i need to judge for myself. And I am glad i did bc those reviews are so wrong. This thing is amazing. Playing with it side by side with my ipad2 the display in my opinion is just as good and just as smooth. I hope there is not a huge delay in geeting jelly bean but even without it this is great. The pen feature blows everything else away. I was considering an adonit touch or jaja on the ipad but this is so much better.
I just dont understand some of those reviews.
In the end i am glad i got this and am happy with all of its features. Anyone want to buy an ipad2.
The note 10.1 and gs3 were the 2 devices that won my wife over. Had to stop working to pick hers up on release day. Coming from ipad3 she is wondering what took her so long to switch. All the extra functionality is blowing her.
Only thing is screen resolution. But its not a deal breaker.
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Who ever said it "DIDNT" have one? Meaning the metalback. That didn't stop me from having a good working unit though. That's where people get confused. No device is perfect. Just like now I'm seeing a screen light bleed thread in here and some other ones. No device is free from manufacturing flaws. Nothing man made is 100% perfect.
IM HIGH ON TECHNOLOGY my experience with Asus was a great one. So great I got me a Nexus7. Which is flawless and one of the best tabs out now. So it doesn't really matter if I liked Prime or not. This is Galaxy Note 10.1 forum. This is my new device. If I like it, which I do so far, ill keep it. If not, ill get my money back or just exchange for infinity pad. This device in testing phase for me. Simple as that.
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Oh I understand the perfect thing statement but the Prime was so far from perfect it was ridiculous.
Come on at least most devices can pick up WiFi and GPS, that's basic and the prime had difficulty doing that. I hardly call that debacle a manufacturing flaw it was flat out a design one.
Anyway good luck with the note. I've no light bleed whatsoever.
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So far my experience with my note is nothing lessthan spectacular my only regret is that i should have purchase the international versin with 32gb 3g version.
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I'm really impressed with this tablet also. The display is actually very good. Wish I could find documentation on what each of those 3 different dpslay modes does. I can see the changes but want to see how exactly display is changed. I think dynamic mode gives best look so far.
Although plastic, it feels high end. Far from feeling cheap. Very well put together. I love the stereo speakers. I think no other tablet can compare, soundwise. Amazing sound. Especially if you use volume+ to increase overall volume & quality.
Everything moves very fluid. Virtually no lag.
If anyone finds the official PDF manual for wifi version, please post it up. I want to master this s pen feature. I know the manual will details things we don't know tablet could even do.
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you bought a Galaxy Note 10.1? The sky is falling....
What happened to you getting your beloved TF700?
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sledgie said:
you bought a Galaxy Note 10.1? The sky is falling....
What happened to you getting your beloved TF700?
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He never had a tf700. He has a prime and nexus 7.
I was being snarky but I know that. He said multiple times in the Prime forums that he wanted to trade his prime or exchange it to gamestop for an Infinity TF700 but couldn't. I was being sarcastic to Asus top cheerleader btw. I'm just shocked that's all
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As far as I can tell the 3 different display choices effect gamma, warmth and saturation. I personally prefer the "movie" setting as it gives the blackest blacks while adding some warmth. The other two settings ccreate some activating around screen fonts.
Does anyone know of a good app that sets gamma independently?
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What you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?

Hello! I am seriously considering purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
I'm coming from an Lg Optimus 4x Hd.
The question is:
This device has some kind of bug?
The camera is good?
The battery lasts about how long?
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
This unit heats up a lot?
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
What do you think about this device?
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
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Today got the Samsung Galaxy Note 2! I am very happy.
I hope that from now on everything runs as smoothly as possible with Samsung.
LG disappointed me a lot.
I had 3 devices (LG P500h), (LG P990) and (P880 LG).
All devices with critical defects, ranging in quality from the camera, touch screen and gaming performance.
I thank you all for the information provided, and support.
Team, we are now one more!
Thank you!
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Ha ha... Don't think to much. Just go buy it. You will not regret it. If 5.5 inch n 720p is ok for u, then this phone is unbeatable
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Hey OP that is the exact situation I was in, I had the crappy 4X HD and swapped it for a note 2. Honestly it was the best decision I have ever made re: mobile devices, it completely destroys the 4X and isn't locked down like the aforementioned LG atrocity. Do it.
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No big that I'm aware of. Except you cannot move apps to the sd card easily. Directory bind resolves this.
Personally for me the camera is very good. Maybe not the best on the market though?
I get all day of very heavy usage out of my battery and I've disowned my in car chargers now.
I play lots of games vice city, nfs, and they are all flawless.
It does not get hot at all.
The phone is plastic but I always use a case.
I don't really use the s pen but my kids love it.
I'm really glad I got this phone it is immense. The best phone I've ever owned. I couldn't go back to a smaller screen. The battery is a dream and it's so quick to use.
Buy it and let us know your thoughts
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Hello! I am seriously considering purchasing a Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
I'm coming from an Lg Optimus 4x Hd.
The question is:
This device has some kind of bug?
The camera is good?
The battery lasts about how long?
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
This unit heats up a lot?
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
What do you think about this device?
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
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Bugs? No bugs that i notice.
Camera is pretty good, better than most phone camera's.
More than 14 hours battery life for me.
Gaming is awesome, will run nova 3, asphalt 7, and others perfectly.
Mine hasnt heated up at all, nice and cool unless i go mad flashing roms, then it gets warm.
Plastic, and i am enjoying the plastic.
Spen depends on what you use it for, most of samsungs functions seem a little gimmicky to me, however 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity with sketchbook pro for tablets makes this an awesome tool for an artist.
This is a very nice phone, i love it.
The only thing that might be considered bad is the lack of updates from samsung; but that can also be a good thing. I have a nexus 7 tablet, 4.1 was good, 4.1.2 was good, 4.2.1 ran poorly, 4.2.2 was good. The nice thing about slow updates is we will likely never see 4.2.1 for this phone, the bad thing is if we get a bad update we get stuck on it for a while.
Tl;dr awesome phone, you will probably love it.
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The only bad thing is, you will have the feeling of wanting to throw away other smaller phone...
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Guess what, there is a guy who used note 2 which came last year, bought s4 and sold it again to get note 2 again. Just shows how cool is this phone.
After using s1-s3, I was very hesitant to get this phone but honestly this has been my best ever experience since last 8 months with note 2. Just close your eyes and buy it.
What I loved most:
0% lag, thanks to quad core ad 2 gig ram.
battery is toooooo good for a smartphone, you will just love it.
Perfect size.
What I disliked:
Poor wifi signal reception, actually signals dropout/fluctuate very frequently.
Poor low light camera performance, just like other galaxy series phone.
Ooh, toughie. Will try to be as objective as possible. Mine:
Pros:
Absolute beast - no lags, runs anything that would run on it without any issues or stutters etc.
Wolfston Sound chip, which gives you excellent results with your high quality headphones if you use one.
Battery life - hands down the best battery life I've ever had in a smartphone. Can't seem to kill the battery even with super heavy usage.
Expandable storage - nuff said.
Gorgeous screen - in my personal opinion, it has the best SAMOLED screen of all other phones. Love the 5.5'' RGB amoled, calibrate and you get gorgeous contrast ratio and color reproduction with the screen.
S Pen - underrated, helps me to take notes, and browsing is far better with the S Pen out.
Those are the things I LOVE, there are plenty more I like a lot, which I can't even begin to list here.
Cons:
Camera is top notch, but if you're into taking pictures of moving objects, it's bit of a letdown.
Awkward to use one handed - you can use it, but it's still awkward. That should be obvious though, given how large the phone is. Amazing for two handed though, you'll struggle to type in tiny phones once you get used to it.
Relatively poor daylight visibility - much better than S3, but not on par with S4 or other LCD phones. I can see stuff on bright really bright daylight too, but it isn't terrific. If you're always using your mobile in the sun, that might be something to take into consideration though.
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Poor wifi signal reception, actually signals dropout/fluctuate very frequently.
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Mine actually has excellent signal reception You sure that it's not just an issue with your device?
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Device is fine, I updated rom and it did help but no as much as expected. I am not the only one with this issue I guess. The problem is that even in a room where I have router, it frequently fluctuate signals.
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i love everything of my note 2 but my note 2 got sds insane chip that drives me crazy all the time but you are good to go with a kernel+recovery patched for sds otherwise this is the best thing i have ever had
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Device is fine, I updated rom and it did help but no as much as expected. I am not the only one with this issue I guess. The problem is that even in a room where I have router, it frequently fluctuate signals.
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Hmm, is it the router? I mean there must be some workaround surely, because mine has excellent wifi reception, better than my Nexus 7, actually.
I basically don't like the back cover, for me it's pretty slippery and I can feel myself losing grip on it when using it with one hand...and that's basically it
everything else I love about it!
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Hmm, is it the router? I mean there must be some workaround surely, because mine has excellent wifi reception, better than my Nexus 7, actually.
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I have 2 routers and issue is same. Do check 1 thing for me, stay in the room where the router is and monitor the signal strength from the wifi icon. Does it remain stable, I mean stuck at 4 full bars or fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars.
What I don't like is that you can't move apps to sd card and that's the only issue I have with this phone. I know there is work around but not feeling very confident about using it. What I like best is a row of numbers above keyboard. Using omega Rom and it's fantastic. This phone is blazing fast, very good battery life doesn't heat up like my old sgs2. And it actually feels quicker than my wife Xperia Z for some reason
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I have 2 routers and issue is same. Do check 1 thing for me, stay in the room where the router is and monitor the signal strength from the wifi icon. Does it remain stable, I mean stuck at 4 full bars or fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars.
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Checked for 1 minute, it seems stable, didn't seem to drop at all?
Anyways, regardless - if it was a noticeable issue, I would have experienced it surely?
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Checked for 1 minute, it seems stable, didn't seem to drop at all?
Anyways, regardless - if it was a noticeable issue, I would have experienced it surely?
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Consider yourself lucky then.
check these threads, wifi issue is addressed a lot of times.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956155
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- Device has no bug. There was this emmc chip bug and sds issue, but it's 'believed' to be fixed by Samsung.
- S Pen useful? Hell yes! I've mainly considered Note for it, and I'm very impressed. I'm not going back to Galaxy S lineup.
- Device heats up? Honestly I've been using Samsung smartphones for 3 years now and I just don't know what this heating up problem is. And I live in a place where real feel temp is 48°C at noon. People saying my device heats up a lot, no offense, but have no idea what is heating up actually.
- Camera? A lot of people will disagree with me I know, but I found the camera to be average, if not below. However I'm a SLR user. Still, iPhone cameras are way better than N2.
- Battery? At first, on 4.1.1, the battery life was awesome, unmatched in comparison to any other phone and unbeatable. Now with 4.1.2, it's not awesome, but still good, and better than any devices released so far. I don't know about S4 though.
- Gaming performance? I don't play games on mobile phone
- What do I think about the device? If you don't wanna wait for N3, and don't like S lineup then buy it eyes closed.
- What I hate most? Only one thing, PLASTIC.
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This device has some kind of bug?
The only thing that irritates me is that the Samsung sms app converts > 320 character sms messages into mms ones. Not really a bug, just an irritating feature which can easily be bypassed by using a third party sms app.
The camera is good?
Amazing. Only the s4 can really top it so far as phone cameras go, imo.
The battery lasts about how long?
Easily lasts a day of heavy use or as much as 2-3 days of light-moderate use. One day I was bored as all hell, used it for eight hours (screen on time) while connected to wifi and it still had 30% left when I plugged it in.
How is the performance of this device for gaming?
I'm not a heavy gamer but I doubt there is a single game on the play store which can make this thing lag.
This unit heats up a lot?
Gets warm if you're gaming or something, I'm ordinarily use like emails, Web, etc it is cool to the touch. Never felt it get uncomfortably warm.
The completion of this unit is painted or is it metal?
It's coloured polycarbonate with a painted silver plastic trim.
The function of the S-Pen is useful?
I use it to take quick notes all the time, in the same way I used to use a small notebook. Tbh the pen is just icing on the cake. Even if it had no pen it would be a great phone. The pen just sets it head and shoulders above all other phones on the market right now, even the gs4.
What do you think about this device?
I love it. At first I thought it might be too big, after 30 minutes of using it my Nexus 4 and gs3 just looked pathetically tiny - like toys in fact - and I knew I could never go back to a small phone like those ones. People still laugh at my phone because of its size. When I see them squinting to read emails on their lesser phones I laugh at them.
Be honest, what you like and what you hate most on your Samsung Galaxy Note 2?
I love everything about it - it's fast, big high quality, high res screen, good camera, good sound quality and volume, huge removable battery (becoming rare these days), micro sd slot, and even though it's big it's thin so the size isn't that much of an issue.
What I hate most is that I can't put the phone down. My Nexus 4 and 7, gs3, even my note 10.1 haven't been touched on the 6 weeks or so I've had this phone. In fact I'm selling all of them because this phone fulfils all my needs.
Sent from the mighty Note II
Like:
- Screen size!!
- Performance
- Battery
- Camera
- Smart Stay/Rotation
- Multiview
- More special Samsung features and gestures
- S Pen (I don't use it alot, but its nice..)
- Micro SD slot
Hate:
- Samsung not releasing whatever CM team needs (didn't really understand what they need..)
- AMOLED screen, I just don't really like it. You might will. Its personal
- Plastic build
Like:
- Screen size!!
- Performance
- Battery
- Multiview
- More special Samsung features and gestures
- Micro SD slot
Hate:
- Plastic build
- and the price..
Sent From My Galaxy Note II

Post your personal S6E reviews

:highfive: congrats to those who have it early.
so tell us what you think about it, the feel on the hand, how fragile does it look and feel (is it slippery like the sony phones with glass, grippy?) , hows the performance of the camera, screen, battery, etc.
It's only been half a day but my early impressions are as follows,
-Fingerprint scanner is wicked fast.
-Screen is beautiful
-It is fast fast fast. I love Samsung devices and I admit that lag was always an issue. I have not been able to slow it down yet. Really I havent. Lol. Even the recent app switcher is fast.
-Like the themeing a lot. I can't wait for more themes.
-Feels good on the hand. The edge does make it a bit different to hold but I love the curved screen. Makes using the phone a pleasure.
-I have only taken a couple pictures but they turned out great. More on that later.
I'm sure I'll have more as the days pass..
I played with the phone in a T mobile store. For about 20 minutes battery was down to 93% from 100%.,Power hungry. Could you guys confirm?
Also I found the browser cannot hide the status bar hence no full screen browsing. Please also confirm this?
S6 edge in the bestbuy which is unbranded has no ability to sort the menu alphabetically. But T mobile edge has an option to sort.
You're correct on the status bar. Too early to know on the battery. The option to sort might have come in the software update that dropped today. Not sure though.
does this look like the edge to u? i think phonearena made a mistake
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...r-but-survives-this-violent-drop-test_id67696
It looks like the edge
The regular s6 has very recognizable edge as well and that is not it
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avenging said:
does this look like the edge to u? i think phonearena made a mistake
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...r-but-survives-this-violent-drop-test_id67696
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Yup, that an Edge, and damn did she slam that hard! Good to know it can survive what she just did, lol.
From a performance point of view there is no doubt in my mind the Edge is going to be great, the only doubt is battery life... I realise its a bit early for conclusions yet but once people have used their phones for a week or so, its the questions that everyone wants answering. Everyone's use patterns are different but as long as I can make it through a heavyish day ok, I'll be happy with that.
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From a performance point of view there is no doubt in my mind the Edge is going to be great, the only doubt is battery life... I realise its a bit early for conclusions yet but once people have used their phones for a week or so, its the questions that everyone wants answering. Everyone's use patterns are different but as long as I can make it through a heavyish day ok, I'll be happy with that.
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It's battery is only 7% less in capacity than S5, so I see no reason why battery life would be extremely different. The screen has higher res, but CPU is much more power efficient.
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It's battery is only 7% less in capacity than S5, so I see no reason why battery life would be extremely different. The screen has higher res, but CPU is much more power efficient.
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Yes...still, I'd rather yes some real numbers from someone who actually has the phone. We know very little about its battery performance yet, and I have seen mixed reviews with some saying its good and others poor.
I should just say that I have the phone pre ordered and I'm looking forward to getting it, battery is the only doubt I have...I'd just like to see some numbers and I think most other people would too.
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Yes...still, I'd rather yes some real numbers from someone who actually has the phone. We know very little about its battery performance yet, and I have seen mixed reviews with some saying its good and others poor.
I should just say that I have the phone pre ordered and I'm looking forward to getting it, battery is the only doubt I have...I'd just like to see some numbers and I think most other people would too.
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I have pre-ordered it as well, but it is still 2 weeks before shipping. We will all see in due time. People in the US are already getting theirs, so we should have some info within a week as batteries start working normally after a few charges.
Also could you guys confirm available free memory?
I went to Best Buy yesterday to get a look at the S6 edge. Needless to say, I was very impressed. Touchwiz seems lightning fast compared to 4.3 on my S4. The shortcuts and ease of access really convinced me to buy this (when green comes along). The edge display looks absolutely amazing and does, in fact, feel more immersive. I love the metal frame and the new headphone jack location. Basically, this thing looks and feels all-around perfect. The black looks BLACK in person, whereas online it gave me the belief that it was a deep-blue. Don't know if I want to settle for the white 32GB or wait a month or two in hopes of the green appearing.
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Also could you guys confirm available free memory?
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I forgot to look. With all my apps and a couple hundred pix loaded on have 107 gigs available.
varunkumars said:
Also could you guys confirm available free memory?
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the 32GB should have around 22-25GB available
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the 64GB should have around 53-56GB available
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It's battery is only 7% less in capacity than S5, so I see no reason why battery life would be extremely different. The screen has higher res, but CPU is much more power efficient.
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Eh, you forgot to mention that the screen was actually more efficient, too. Not only is it 14nm, the screen is like 23% more efficient than the screen on the Note 4, iirc.
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Eh, you forgot to mention that the screen was actually more efficient, too. Not only is it 14nm, the screen is like 23% more efficient than the screen on the Note 4, iirc.
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I was not aware the screen would be more efficient with that much higher resolution, but that is a good thing to know as well. Might mean all this whining about smaller battery size is just for the sake of whining.
Thanks for your answers guys. Today again I walked into Best buy and T mobile stores to do my research more. What I found,
Battery: Yesterday when I played with the phone I suspected it to be Power hungry. But I think I should take it back. Battery is ok not bad after all. I am comparing with my LG G2(has a good battery, 3000mah) and I measured the time it takes to drop every %. S6 takes a little more time than the G2 to drop which tells me the battery is good. Also the picture below. I don't have an S5 so I can't really compare with that. I played a couple of games that were installed on the phone and the battery is still ok. This is by no means a scientific way of measuring, neverthless I wanted to share this with you guys.
Although I have chargers at home, car and work still a good battery(if not the best) gives a sense of confidence. and satisfaction that I have the best phone irrespective of all the breath taking features. Don't you agree?? S6 may not disappoint I believe.
Browser/Browsing: Browsing is a breeze. No sense of lag anywhere. But the status bar doesn't hide which I assume is a part of Lollipop. I would be curious to see if a dev can come up with a mod. A full screen immersive browsing on the S6 's beautiful screen would be super cool.
Youtube/Video: Flawless like its predecessors. Nothing special to mention.
Music: Flawless sound like its predecessors. No distortion. Sound is very clean with the headphones. I listen to a lot of Music and sound quality is very important for me. When I played the music on speaker I felt some vibration I wonder what that is??? I wonder if it is the speaker giving the vibration.
Menu:Arrangement of the apps in the menu is nice and simple although I would prefer the icons to be a little smaller. T mobile phones come with an option to sort alphabetically. AT&T don't have the phone for display yet(Slackers:crying so can't tell. All in all I like this new menu. No complaints.
GPS: I didn't spend a lot of time here but I thought it locked quick enough. Nothing special and no complaints.
Screen Quality : I thought the screen is much better than S5 (in the store) and on par with the note 4. But my G2 has a different color temperature which I believe make whites look a little bluish where as S6 whites are yellowish. To me both are ok. But I really have to admit the additional pixels on S6 make no difference in picture quality (S6 vs G2). Really a 1080p screen would have been enough. To clarify I am not complaining, just my opinion. Viewing angles are good unlike G2 (LG's for that matter).
I have to tell you, normal people passing by with no phone knowledge would stop by and take a glimpse at the edge screen, They all seem to like it. Seems like edge is getting all the attention it deserves.
Build/Design: This is where S6 edge outshines every other phone in the market. In my opinion, till date this the best design ever period. I have seen some complaints about finger prints. It is not bad after all. Looks like white takes less finger prints than others. Excellent build quality and feels solid in hands. Thums up.
Single handed use: It can be used single handed with no issues. Menu is set up for single hand use which I really like. Although my hand is not very big it fit nicely in my hand. Not sure about the non-edge S6. Should be the same.
Speed This is one thing that is very crucial. All android phones I used so far tend to be fast initially but as I go adding/deleting apps and other files phone tends to get laggy. It really gets on my nerves. But even as a brand new phone they stutter at times. But with S6 it is blazing fast. No lag anywhere (at least I did not see). App drawer is a little slow to open. Samsung probably configured it to be slower on purpose. Some might misunderstand it to be a lag, just a heads up. Speed speed speed is what it is.
Camera: I need not specially tell you about the camera. There are expert reviews which claim this to be the best camera. Flawless. Double press on the menu opens the camera in split seconds which is very impressive.
I care less about the heart rate sensor so did not test it. Although I care about finger print scanner I could not test it because it is not my phone.
This is a big leap forward not just for Samsung but for android as a whole.
I was disappointed about the battery yesterday but liked it today and took some time to test all the features. I like the phone, will get one. White Color 32gb. AT&T.
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the 64GB should have around 53-56GB available
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I think he meant the true amount of RAM available. (Should be less than 3 GB)
Status bar maybe due to Lollipop. Its present on my Pure Edition Moto X and my Atrix HD running CM12.
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If you're on the fence about buying this tablet you should read this.

I'm going to save you a lot of trouble if you're considering this tablet and are unsure, as I just put this thing through a lot of testing.
First off I would like to say that I think this is a fantastic tablet. It is just the right size, has an excellent build quality, and runs pretty good all things considered. This has a decnet running/looking Samsng UI, especially considering that it's an older build running on a slower processor. If this tablet had a better processor and maybe stylus support it would be a killer tablet with no competition. It's sad that Samsung doesn't take this size range seriously any longer.
Now for the badish part. This tablet is great for gaming, perfect size, great screen, good enough speakers (mount them stereo next time Samsung!) However it just won't handle intensive gaming stuff, such as Order and Choas 2 or Rules of Survival with the settings turned up. It will certainly play them if you don't mind the low FPS though. Definitely playable FPS for sure, but it won't be butter.
I was curious to see if this was a Samsung processor optimization problem like it is with the Tab s3, so I did some testing to find out. I can confirm that flashing LOS 14.1 it did nothing for the gaming performance. The tablet was quicker and less laggy overall, but the gaming is still limited by the GPU. This tablet also is so good out of the box that it doesn't need the help of LOS anyway.
So there you have it. Great little tablet, just don't expect any sort of massive gaming performance and don't even think about voiding your warratny to try a custom rom because it won't help. In this size range it is really the ultimate for gaming, so I figured a lot of people would be buying it for that, and I wanted to give a heads up. The benchmark scores don't tell the whole story sometimes. I hope they refresh this tablet in 2018 with a better SOC and keep it alive.
Thanks for the info seh6183. :highfive:
You need to tell us what hardware you are testing as the 2015 is using Exynos and the 2016 is Snapdragon. From previous posts on here, the consensus is that the 2015 has the better GPU for gaming but the 2016 is faster.
I don't game on my tablet so I can't add anything to your observations.
I have the 2016 S2, and it is fine for light gaming. However, it heats up fairly quickly if you are doing anything graphically intense for long periods and throttles pretty noticeably. Even fairly simple apps, like Alto's Adventure, will eventually become unplayable if you don't take a break periodically to let the SoC cool down.
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Thanks for the info seh6183. :highfive:
You need to tell us what hardware you are testing as the 2015 is using Exynos and the 2016 is Snapdragon. From previous posts on here, the consensus is that the 2015 has the better GPU for gaming but the 2016 is faster.
I don't game on my tablet so I can't add anything to your observations.
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Snapdragon 652.
I just bought a new 'open box' from BestBuy for $209.
I'm not a gamer or user of graphics, mainly a business user. I had the latest 9.7 iPad for a week, and I just kept feeling like one of my arms was tied behind my back.
So I returned it and bought the Samsung Tab S2.
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Snapdragon 652.
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Thanks for the update seh6183. :highfive:
Are you able to update the title of your post or your initial post to reflect this? Others may find this useful.
Would be interested to hear from a 2015 owner on how it handles the games you mentioned.
I cant imagine buying thos for gaming... If you want to game on a tablet I would just go with the iPad. The new iPad 2017 is so much better than this, and you can get one new for 250 and a bigger screen. I went with tablet only because I can torrent and use my Micro USB to USB 2.0 adapter for music and videos on torrents. Thats literally the only upside to going with an Android tablet nowadays
JoRocker said:
I cant imagine buying thos for gaming... If you want to game on a tablet I would just go with the iPad. The new iPad 2017 is so much better than this, and you can get one new for 250 and a bigger screen. I went with tablet only because I can torrent and use my Micro USB to USB 2.0 adapter for music and videos on torrents. Thats literally the only upside to going with an Android tablet nowadays
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Well, not the ONLY one, but yeah - most of the best games come out for iOS first and then, if ever, for Android. On the flip side, Android lets you actually use your device like a computer and not merely a media consumption machine. I consider that a pretty big plus.
JoRocker said:
I cant imagine buying thos for gaming... If you want to game on a tablet I would just go with the iPad. The new iPad 2017 is so much better than this, and you can get one new for 250 and a bigger screen. I went with tablet only because I can torrent and use my Micro USB to USB 2.0 adapter for music and videos on torrents. Thats literally the only upside to going with an Android tablet nowadays
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For me it has to be Android for little things like power toggles, screebl and the OLED screen.
seh6183 said:
I'm going to save you a lot of trouble if you're considering this tablet and are unsure, as I just put this thing through a lot of testing.
First off I would like to say that I think this is a fantastic tablet. It is just the right size, has an excellent build quality, and runs pretty good all things considered. This has a decnet running/looking Samsng UI, especially considering that it's an older build running on a slower processor. If this tablet had a better processor and maybe stylus support it would be a killer tablet with no competition. It's sad that Samsung doesn't take this size range seriously any longer.
Now for the badish part. This tablet is great for gaming, perfect size, great screen, good enough speakers (mount them stereo next time Samsung!) However it just won't handle intensive gaming stuff, such as Order and Choas 2 or Rules of Survival with the settings turned up. It will certainly play them if you don't mind the low FPS though. Definitely playable FPS for sure, but it won't be butter.
I was curious to see if this was a Samsung processor optimization problem like it is with the Tab s3, so I did some testing to find out. I can confirm that flashing LOS 14.1 it did nothing for the gaming performance. The tablet was quicker and less laggy overall, but the gaming is still limited by the GPU. This tablet also is so good out of the box that it doesn't need the help of LOS anyway.
So there you have it. Great little tablet, just don't expect any sort of massive gaming performance and don't even think about voiding your warratny to try a custom rom because it won't help. In this size range it is really the ultimate for gaming, so I figured a lot of people would be buying it for that, and I wanted to give a heads up. The benchmark scores don't tell the whole story sometimes. I hope they refresh this tablet in 2018 with a better SOC and keep it alive.
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So far the only bad side of this tablet that I saw was mentioned the battery life (as they reduced it from S1) and the speakers.
My main concern is the speakers which are at the bottom - how do they behave when you hold the tablet in landscape for watching a video? Is all the sound on the right side? Can the speakers be accidentally covered off with the hand that's holding the tablet? How is the sound on this thing?
My Nexus 7 (2013) is seriously showing its age now and due for an upgrade.
I'm considering this (T713/715) or the Huawei Mediapad M3 (or lite) 8.0 which is not at all supported on XDA so I would be stuck with it's software and bloatware whether I like it or not.
atirage said:
I'm considering this (T713/715) or the Huawei Mediapad M3 (or lite) 8.0 which is not at all supported on XDA so I would be stuck with it's software and bloatware whether I like it or not.
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I'm in the same boat, but it's vs the M5 and I'm more of a reader. It's a tough decision.
stoatbroker said:
I'm in the same boat, but it's vs the M5 and I'm more of a reader. It's a tough decision.
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If your a reader at night, it's all about the reduced eyestrain of the OLED screen. For me, the M5 is overpriced considering I picked up an M3 for only $180.
Surprise, it was known from the beginning that it has slow gpu, but also not the best cpu, they are continuing this with s3 and s4. They ar selling it for big money and yet, no wonder sales ar low
Extreemator said:
Surprise, it was known from the beginning that it has slow gpu, but also not the best cpu, they are continuing this with s3 and s4. They ar selling it for big money and yet, no wonder sales ar low
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For me the S3 and S4 bring little new to the table.
The S2 (when first released,) had that awesome screen. Even though I never intended to own any Samsung product due to touchwiz, I was sold when that Samsung handed me the 8" version in a store. The combination of killer screen and stupidly low weight set this apart from all opposition. For the 8" version, it could be argued this is still the case.
As long as Samsung keep giving us security updates for the S2, I'm not that interested in the S3 and S4 as 9.7" is too big for me.
So, I bought the 8" wifi version (T713) and I'm severely disappointed with battery life: around 6h SOT!?
I keep reducing the brightness but battery percentages just melt away. I don't know, maybe the LineageOS battery life is better, or a custom kernel would help. (I'm still on stock)
Other things I dislike are the volume/speakers - they're easy to cover up and don't sound so great. Not to mention they're basically mono in landscape mode, I hate that on my phone!
The tablet has sharp edges, very uncomfortable to hold and it hurts my hand after a while, fortunately I can buy a silicone cover for this problem. The rest will stick with me
I come from the Nexus 7 2013, and this is definitely a side-grade. The only thing that I missed on the Nexus is that it struggled with hi-res 60fps video (couldn't even do higher than 720p60).
Oh well.
Not much choice in the Android tablet market currently, but I certainly wouldn't recommend this one.
No problem,in the future it will not be Android tablets anymore,so you will not have choises at all.
Google just removed tablets section from Android page,take a look at http://www.android.com/tablets/ .
Cheers
viasat said:
No problem,in the future it will not be Android tablets anymore,so you will not have choises at all.
Google just removed tablets section from Android page,take a look at http://www.android.com/tablets/ .
Cheers
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There are very few redeeming qualities left keeping me on the Android side of the fence anyway, and Google seems intent on killing them. The ease of data management, and the ability to run apps that wouldn't have a shot in the App Store (like Nova Launcher, Solid Explorer, etc.) are about the only things keeping me in the ecosystem. Otherwise, it seems like every time I look, the iPad Pro gets more and more attractive.
atirage said:
So, I bought the 8" wifi version (T713) and I'm severely disappointed with battery life: around 6h SOT!?
I keep reducing the brightness but battery percentages just melt away. I don't know, maybe the LineageOS battery life is better, or a custom kernel would help. (I'm still on stock)
Other things I dislike are the volume/speakers - they're easy to cover up and don't sound so great. Not to mention they're basically mono in landscape mode, I hate that on my phone!
The tablet has sharp edges, very uncomfortable to hold and it hurts my hand after a while, fortunately I can buy a silicone cover for this problem. The rest will stick with me
I come from the Nexus 7 2013, and this is definitely a side-grade. The only thing that I missed on the Nexus is that it struggled with hi-res 60fps video (couldn't even do higher than 720p60).
Oh well.
Not much choice in the Android tablet market currently, but I certainly wouldn't recommend this one.
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TBH atirage, 6h of SOT is very good for the 8" tablet. My T715 has only ever managed 5h. I doubt lineage will increase battery life by much. At the end of the day, that 4000Mah has to power a hell of a big screen.
I find the tablet the best I've ever held, (also had a Nexus 7 2013 in the past.) but I just hold it in the bottom corner, not attempting to get my hand the whole way around. Agreed about the poor quality speakers.
The thing I've liked about this tablet the most in the last 2 years is the solid, (not ever fantastic,) performance. I've suffered no bugs and everything just works as well as the day I've bought it. :angel:
Not to be all negative about this tablet: the performance is great, granted I didn't fill it up with apps and games yet but I'll see how it will hold up over time.
Even in battery saving mode (70% CPU) it's still blazing fast and a joy to use.
I got a silicon case on it so the handling became better.
And I got used to the sound - it's not good, but passable and loud enough to watch a few YouTube videos in a quiet environment.
I managed to install SABS on it (and make it work), so I got ad blocking now and the ability to disable apps I don't need/use (Samsung bloatware) so I'm hoping battery life will improve a little bit.
It's growing on me.
It was a weird transition from the Nexus 7 (2013), but that fellow got so sluggish that I wanted to chuck it at the wall. That's why I needed the upgrade and the ability to play qHD nicely, and the S2 tab does it oh-so-well.
Anybody can suggest a nice blue light filter app for it?
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Not to be all negative about this tablet: the performance is great, granted I didn't fill it up with apps and games yet but I'll see how it will hold up over time.
Even in battery saving mode (70% CPU) it's still blazing fast and a joy to use.
I got a silicon case on it so the handling became better.
And I got used to the sound - it's not good, but passable and loud enough to watch a few YouTube videos in a quiet environment.
I managed to install SABS on it (and make it work), so I got ad blocking now and the ability to disable apps I don't need/use (Samsung bloatware) so I'm hoping battery life will improve a little bit.
It's growing on me.
It was a weird transition from the Nexus 7 (2013), but that fellow got so sluggish that I wanted to chuck it at the wall. That's why I needed the upgrade and the ability to play qHD nicely, and the S2 tab does it oh-so-well.
Anybody can suggest a nice blue light filter app for it?
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Glad your starting to see the advantages of this tab atirage: :victory:
You'll also notice the screen picks up far fewer fingerprints than the Nexus 7 2013. Don't know what Samsung have done with the glass but its much better. Even though the FP reader is very 1st gen, its still nice to have and better than a pin every time.
I find the sound to be much better if you put the tablet of a flat surface so the sound reflects off it.

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