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Trade xoom for note10.1?

After watching some demonstation of note10.1 , i really feel like to get one, if its not too pricey.
Anyway, can anyone give me some opinon about this?
I owned a razr, n after comparing with s2 (almost same spec), s2 is much more laggy than my razr due to the touchwiz ui.
But s3 seems better anyway.
I m using xoom with eos jellybean now n the speed is awesome, sometimes i might think that i m using a quad core device.
So is trade xoom for note10.1 a good choice?
Sry for my extremely bad English . I really need some suggestion

omnia1994 said:
After watching some demonstation of note10.1 , i really feel like to get one, if its not too pricey.
Anyway, can anyone give me some opinon about this?
I owned a razr, n after comparing with s2 (almost same spec), s2 is much more laggy than my razr due to the touchwiz ui.
But s3 seems better anyway.
I m using xoom with eos jellybean now n the speed is awesome, sometimes i might think that i m using a quad core device.
So is trade xoom for note10.1 a good choice?
Sry for my extremely bad English . I really need some suggestion
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Its no alternatives to xoom right mow, imho

One thing that caught my eye is that aside from the Quad core processor, the Galaxy Note 10.1 is running on 2 GB of ram!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/3229853/galaxy-note-10-1-release-date-price-hong-kong

big ach said:
One thing that caught my eye is that aside from the Quad core processor, the Galaxy Note 10.1 is running on 2 GB of ram!
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/3229853/galaxy-note-10-1-release-date-price-hong-kong
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Same here, thats really awesome.
Somemore there r floating keyboard, s note calculation , floating video player etc, all these are really amazing features

I might pick one up just for the helluvit. I really like my sg note and my xoom, but I've also really gotten attached to the s-pen.
If Motorola doesn't get in gear and release a kick ass tablet to replace the xoom, I think its going to be hard for them to get back into the game.
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Just saw that the n8000 makes calls. Thia is a killer feature I've been waiting for on a 10.1 tablet. Maybe eos guys can pick one up in a bounty.... hint hint.
If kc, brd or solz gets one, I'm there too.
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Originally I was dead set on replacing my Xoom with a Note 10.1, because some of the features sound really useful (such as side-by-side apps, pressure sensitive notes taking, etc).
But after reading the reviews yesterday... well it sounds really disappointing So I am going to wait for the coming software updates and price drops, before re-considering it.

The only thing about the Note that I like is stylus. The rest is pretty meh.
I'll wait another year before considering replacement. The Xoom has plenty of life left in it.

Mine arrives tomorrow... will test over the weekend and report back. I have and still do love my xoom and use it daily, but my GNote has convinced me of the value of the wacom digitizer technology. Should know by Monday whether its a realistic xoom replacement.

hchxoom said:
Mine arrives tomorrow... will test over the weekend and report back. I have and still do love my xoom and use it daily, but my GNote has convinced me of the value of the wacom digitizer technology. Should know by Monday whether its a realistic xoom replacement.
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Waiting for ur report n pls tell us if the device is suitable for gaming.. in pics the corner of the device looks toothick to hold for gaming

what's this about being too thick... its bezel on the flanks is a bit wider, but that's for the speakers. And its around ~200grams lighter than our xoom.
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Eun-Hjzjined said:
what's this about being too thick... its bezel on the flanks is a bit wider, but that's for the speakers. And its around ~200grams lighter than our xoom.
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Sry i mean the corner is abit too wide

omnia1994 said:
Sry i mean the corner is abit too wide
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Just opened the box so haven't even turned it on, yet... but does this pic of the corner edge (beside the xoom corner edge) help you?
Initial impression in the hand is pretty good. Not the tank that my xoom is (have always felt I could use it for personal protection if necessary), but not cheap-feeling either. A bit lighter and thinner than our xoom, but the bezel around the screen is larger meaning the entire device is a little taller and wider than our xoom despite the same functional screen size. I do think the weight loss and less sharp edges will make long sessions more comfortable.

hchxoom said:
Just opened the box so haven't even turned it on, yet... but does this pic of the corner edge (beside the xoom corner edge) help you?
Initial impression in the hand is pretty good. Not the tank that my xoom is (have always felt I could use it for personal protection if necessary), but not cheap-feeling either. A bit lighter and thinner than our xoom, but the bezel around the screen is larger meaning the entire device is a little taller and wider than our xoom despite the same functional screen size. I do think the weight loss and less sharp edges will make long sessions more comfortable.
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Thx for ur information, but what i mean is the length between the corner of the screen to device's corner.. sry for my bad english

omnia1994 said:
Thx for ur information, but what i mean is the length between the corner of the screen to device's corner.. sry for my bad english
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Here is a shot of both from the front. It is a bit larger, but not much.
Early use has been positive. I was a little worried about the screen at first but then realized the autobrightness is darker than my taste in low-light settings. Setting brightness manually, the note's screen is brighter & clearer than the XOOM. It is also a warmer screen than XOOM. I never disliked XOOM's screen, but colors do seem truer on Note whereas they all had a coder bluish tint on XOOM'
The note is quite snappy ... I'm impressed. I've been running EOS JB on my XOOM, so wasn't thrilled about going back to ICS, but this HW makes ICS seem better than I remember it I suspect it will really prove itself on JB,or if we can get Eos on the case.
The coolest thing is that I've written this entire post with my S-pen. I have awful handwriting that meanders from print to cursive & back, but Note had almost no problems translating
Will have more time to put this thing through its paces tomorrow -buta good 1st impression!

hchxoom said:
Here is a shot of both from the front. It is a bit larger, but not much.
Early use has been positive. I was a little worried about the screen at first but then realized the autobrightness is darker than my taste in low-light settings. Setting brightness manually, the note's screen is brighter & clearer than the XOOM. It is also a warmer screen than XOOM. I never disliked XOOM's screen, but colors do seem truer on Note whereas they all had a coder bluish tint on XOOM'
The note is quite snappy ... I'm impressed. I've been running EOS JB on my XOOM, so wasn't thrilled about going back to ICS, but this HW makes ICS seem better than I remember it I suspect it will really prove itself on JB,or if we can get Eos on the case.
The coolest thing is that I've written this entire post with my S-pen. I have awful handwriting that meanders from print to cursive & back, but Note had almost no problems translating
Will have more time to put this thing through its paces tomorrow -buta good 1st impression!
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tq very much =)

The note 10.1 will be awesome once custom ROMs like cm10 go on there to unleash the true power. Sucks that the s-pen is only fully compatible with Samsung based apps, hopefully app developers will make equivalents that support it.
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Well, didnt get as much time to play on it today and dont have but a few minutes to update this thread - will try to add more detail tomorrow.
In summary, though, I am thoroughly impressed with this tablet. Notwithstanding that the EOS JB experience on my Xoom was unbelievably smooth and this ia a (hopefully short-term) step back to ICS, the Note makes it remarkably snappy and smooth.
S-pen functionality is great, and multitasking windows works well... little to no lag.
Battery life has been phenomenal (approaching 40 hrs with 7 screen on)... Ive posted a few screenshots of battery life. No problems with deep sleep.
Hopefully more tomorrow or Tuesday, but the short recommendation is to go get one.

hchxoom said:
Well, didnt get as much time to play on it today and dont have but a few minutes to update this thread - will try to add more detail tomorrow.
In summary, though, I am thoroughly impressed with this tablet. Notwithstanding that the EOS JB experience on my Xoom was unbelievably smooth and this ia a (hopefully short-term) step back to ICS, the Note makes it remarkably snappy and smooth.
S-pen functionality is great, and multitasking windows works well... little to no lag.
Battery life has been phenomenal (approaching 40 hrs with 7 screen on)... Ive posted a few screenshots of battery life. No problems with deep sleep.
Hopefully more tomorrow or Tuesday, but the short recommendation is to go get one.
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Did u root it?
What happen if u uninstall a samsung apps that have samsung small window widgets? (I dont know what that calls, the small window app thatappear after pressing the arrow at thecenter of notification bar)
Will it disaapeared in the small windows widget bar too?
and, does the stock video player plays flv movies?
Sry for mybad description lol

To the owners, Is Note 10.1 worth buying?

To the owners, Is Note 10.1 worth buying?
Coming from SONY TABLET S !!!
Really didnt enjoyed good android experience on any of the tablets, do would u rate Note 10.1?
Why m hesitant is:
1. Nexus 7 price point
2. Love for Sony, Xperia Tablet coming
3. M'soft Surface, if priced well hell yeahh...
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xperiax10.awesome said:
To the owners, Is Note 10.1 worth buying?
Coming from SONY TABLET S !!!
Really didnt enjoyed good android experience on any of the tablets, do would u rate Note 10.1?
sent from seXperia S
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Since we bought it I would say we thought it was worth buying. I think the real question is do you think it is worth buying? That depends on what you plan to use it for.

Hell yes its worth buying to me. I would rate it a solid 8.75-9.0

I'm on a flight from Portland to Dallas writing this. I have the Note in portrait mode in multview connected to GoGo Wi-Fi. In the lower panel I have XDA open in a browser window and am watching a movie in the upper panel. No lag, no hiccups, pretty amazing.Try doing that on any other tablet. The guy sitting next to me (who's an ass) has an iPad and I can see him looking out of the corner of his eye in amazement. The more I use the Note the more impressed I am.

I am coming from TFP and it worth every penny.

Sony to Samsung
I was in the exact same boat as the OP. I had (still have) the Sony tablet and upgraded to the Samsung. Final verdict - Mixed bag.
The samsung is immediately and obviously faster than the Sony. The screen is of course slightly larger as is the tablet in general. The one thing you will be blown away by coming from the sony is the audio on the Note. The speakers are loud and placed directly on the front of the unit. I don't know if you are one of the people effected by the low audio problems with the Sony, but if you were you will be smiling from ear to ear.
As for all other aspects, the wifi signal strength is much improved, but the screen will be a mixed bag as well. While it is brighter, it will at first appear less crisp since it is essentially the same resolution of the Sony, but the Sony had those pixels squeezed into a smaller screen, so they were higher density. Does this cause any problems? Not in the least. The screen is still bright, crisp and easily viewed from a wide angle. I have read that Samsung "tweaked" the screen somehow so that it was not the same as every other screen out there in this resolution, and if so...it shows. Text is not as sharp as on the higher definition screens or the iPad, but it is sharper than it was on the Sony.
Web browsing is LEAGUES better than it was on the sony, and the apps that support the sPen are generally pretty decent. If you are using this for a multimedia device or games...look no further. The benchmarks for this tablet in those area are awesome. If you are a graphics artist or dabble in those things, the included photoshop is good, and I imagine will only get better with the first Samsung and Adobe updates.
Now the downsides...first, for the price, the screen really should have been better...but as I said, it's nowhere near being bad. The back of the unit is shiny plastic, so it's a fingerprint magnet...but it's upside is that since it's plastic, it has stronger wifi reception and gps. The pen that is included does NOT have the eraser you may have seen in some videos, but it does tuck away into the unit nicely and comes with several spare tips and a few varieties of them.
The biggest downside...and honestly for me it's 50/50. I started using my sony as a universal remote for every device in my home. The Samsung has such a remote, and in theory it should be FAR FAR better than the one on the sony....BUT...it only worked for the fist 30 minutes I set it up and never again. I searched online and only read more horror stories about that software (not the hardware...the note itself has no issues with its IR transmitter...only the included program). I updated the software and tried a thousand ways to fix this...but no joy. The built in software is supposed to not only control devices, but provide a visual guide of all the shows on TV, information about them, and learn your preferences much like a TIVO, but once it starts developing issues, they never seem to go away. But as with everything, YMMV, so take that with a grain of salt. I use ATT Uverse as my provider, so it may just be issues with them (although that would not seem to be the case online).
To sum it all up, I am happy with the purchase. At the moment, Amazon has a deal going on the 32GB version that is only $528 I believe, as opposed to the $549. The company providing it charges no taxes and only $8 shipping, so that's a HUGE savings. Would I purchase the unit again? Without hesitation. I picked mine up on the first day it was available, and only the 16gb version was available. I am planning on returning the 16gb and picking up the 32gb. So not only would I buy it again, but...I really am buying it again! LOL.
Hope that helped a little. If you have any questions, fire away

Totally
I had the tf300 and its not even close. The s pen is so useful and the software is much better than my last one. Highly recommended. I have not tried the tf700, but if outed like the tf300 this is the tab to beat.

As you already have a Sony tablet, I wouldn't buy the Note right now. Sony has their second attempt, Xperia Tablet, expected next month.
Wait and see how that plays out.

Hmmm, even the reviews are not very impressive considering the price tag..
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*Omnipresent* said:
Hell yes its worth buying to me. I would rate it a solid 8.75-9.0
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I really like my Note. IMO, If you're buying it for some reason other than the active digitzer + stylus combo, you've probably bought it for the wrong reason. If you buy this tablet, you're buying it for productivity.
I took mine with me to class today, was able to write some very solid looking notes quickly and easily, while simultaneously recording audio. It has a few cons, like the cameras occasionally being terrible, and the back being made of what feels like a cheap plastic, but as far as I'm concerned the pros (digitizer + stylus, side-by-side app viewing, quad-core Exynos beast + 2GB RAM for multitasking) outweigh the cons by far.
Hell, the only reason I ever bought either the iPad or iPad2 was that I had this hope that I could somehow find a good, accurate stylus that would let me take notes in class and ditch my paper-and-pen notebook. With the Note 10.1, I've found that tablet. I already love it more than I ever loved my iPad(s).
Did I mention it's great for note taking?! :silly:

Many of us bought this for the pen. In this aspect it's peerless. Combined with this, it's also very good in most other ways.
People are complaining that it should have a higher resolution screen, I disagree. Reason: My eyesight isn't all that great, and to me the difference is minimal, and I would rather have the quad horsepower dedicated to the pen, and other functions rather than screen real estate.
In a year or so, the higher resolution tablets will be standard, but until then i'd rather have it this way.
Whatever. :laugh: The point is: this tablet is fairly perfect for what I wanted: A pen interface, in the iPad/Galaxy format.

xperiax10.awesome said:
Hmmm, even the reviews are not very impressive considering the price tag..
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I think it's really interesting how the "professional" reviews don't match up at all with the real world hands-on experiences of the people on the forums. The way I see it, I don't even bother with reading reviews anymore when you can get much more thorough and unbiased reviews from the good folks here on XDA.
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NessLookAlike said:
I really like my Note. IMO, If you're buying it for some reason other than the active digitzer + stylus combo, you've probably bought it for the wrong reason. If you buy this tablet, you're buying it for productivity.
I took mine with me to class today, was able to write some very solid looking notes quickly and easily, while simultaneously recording audio. It has a few cons, like the cameras occasionally being terrible, and the back being made of what feels like a cheap plastic, but as far as I'm concerned the pros (digitizer + stylus, side-by-side app viewing, quad-core Exynos beast + 2GB RAM for multitasking) outweigh the cons by far.
Hell, the only reason I ever bought either the iPad or iPad2 was that I had this hope that I could somehow find a good, accurate stylus that would let me take notes in class and ditch my paper-and-pen notebook. With the Note 10.1, I've found that tablet. I already love it more than I ever loved my iPad(s).
Did I mention it's great for note taking?! :silly:
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I'm considering the upgrade of my tab10.1 to the note to use it taking notes in my classes as well. How the palm rejection works when you touch the screen with the hand who is writing? And, maybe it is the response at the first question as well, can i disable all the touch input excepting the active digitalizer of the s-pen? It would be perfect to me in that case :cyclops:

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I'm considering the upgrade of my tab10.1 to the note to use it taking notes in my classes as well. How the palm rejection works when you touch the screen with the hand who is writing? And, maybe it is the response at the first question as well, can i disable all the touch input excepting the active digitalizer of the s-pen? It would be perfect to me in that case :cyclops:
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Palm rejection is perfect, at least in the S Memo app that comes stock with the Note. Until other market apps are updated to support the Note, S Memi will probably be the one or two apps you'll want to use to take notes.. but it really is perfect. The app itself has a few quirks, but I'm sure they'll be ironed out over time. This morning when I was taking notes, it felt weird to leave my hand resting on the screen, and I was concerned my palm would get lots of grease on the screen -- but nope, everything was fine! It takes maybe 5 minutes to get used to. And yes, you can disable all touch input except the digitizer. There's a button for it in the note-taking app.
It really is that good for taking notes.

Thank you, I think you've settled the final word over my tablet upgrade with that post and your reassurances
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I didn't buy this for the pen.. I bought it cause it has the most powerful processor you can get in a tablet.
And that should last me quite awhile.

What is striking me as wierd is the mixture of reviews for the Note 10.1.
Gizmodo absolutely ripped into it and recommended against purchasing it while others seem to love it.

i the verge and gizmodo married they would make a new website called
ibiased.com
period.

It really comes down to what you want it for. I feel pretty sure they went with a less dense screen to improve speed, especially with the pen.
Browsing on this is as fast as with my laptop on Ethernet.
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habs101 said:
i the verge and gizmodo married they would make a new website called
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Agreed, cant they put their apple fanboy status aside.
Walt Mossberg I felt gave the note a very fair review. Given that he is an apple fanboy my opinion of him is even greater because the review was very objective.

Best Alternative to N10?

I really wanted to get the N10, I really did. But Google just had to **** it up with their terrible customer service and a ****ty checkout system that spews out errors every single time. I'm done waiting around, so now looking for an alternative, any suggestions/recommendations?
I'm more of an Android fan obv.
TIA.
UPDATE: I ordered mines after a few e-mails with Google. Got the beast. It's amazing!

Ordering from Google was a piece of cake for me. I ordered it on a Saturday, got it that Thursday (Lexington, KY to Los Angeles). But I've never had to deal with their Support, so I'll take your word on that.
Having said that, I honestly don't think you'll find another tab that compares with the N10, but I love mine so much I'm hardly objective. I believe if you persevere with Google you'll thank yourself down the road.
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Their support is basically "read the online help sections!!!!".
Anyway, I got this email just now from Google:
"Hello,
During a recent review of your Google Checkout account, we were unable to
verify your information.
As a result, your account has been temporarily suspended and you will be
unable to place orders. In order to resolve this situation, please provide
us with the requested information of MR XXXX
within 3 business days by filling out this form"
Um, I have been buying apps with this account for a long time now. What gives?

You got me, bud. If it's a credit card issue, maybe your card company can help. Sometimes when your billing address isn't *exactly* as it's written on your statement it can cause problems. But if you've been been using the same card all along, that's probably not it. I know because of the expense of the tab, my card company called me to confirm I had placed the order before they would authorize it. Maybe that has something to do with it.
I would tell you to buy from Amazon, but the last I checked, their pricing was higher.
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The best alternative right now is IMO is the Kindle HD 8.9, but it is much more difficult to root and all that. If you wait a few more months other companies will have powerful tablets out with new processors and probably high res screens.

You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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The note also has front facing speakers. The shape is very similar to the n10. Major difference is the note has a plastic feel to it and in my opinion doesn't feel as solid as the n10.
Also the note does not suffer from light bleed bit you're right, the screen is not as nice!
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sendbeer said:
You could buy the nexus at retail too? I almost got the Samsung note 10.1 myself. Its screen isn't as nice and I would miss a few other things like the front facing speakers. But the note has the stylus and doesn't have the habit of rebooting unexpectedly either.
Aren't you going to have to straighten out Google's credit card issue in order to buy apps in the future anyway?
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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.

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I'm in UK, and I don't think any retails sell the N10. I would have bought from Amazon but they are £100 more dearer and eBay prices are just insane - in comparison to Google's price tag.
The main reason why I want the N10 is for the screen. I'm a picky prick when it comes to screen resolution. Is light bleed a huge deal on these devices?
I've sent Google the docs they asked for anyway.
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Only alternative that ccould match up with the n10 is going to the the Sony Xperia Tablet Z but you will have to wait another month or two. It may actually be a little faster than the n10 as well.
There has been a lot of complaints regarding light bleed but personally it wasn't an issue. Sure I can see some slight paleness on 2 sides in the dark at max brightness but in regular light using auto-brightness I don't see it on a dark screen. And quite frankly I would never have even noticed if it hadn't been for the notorious thread here. LOL

Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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Best alternative its to wait for a new product... Nexus 10 II ... Maybe these guys from google will solve issues with battery life and with charging time.. Its a shame that you have almost perfect configuration but unable to use because of not enough juice. Not a complete satisfaction and this make you angry and tired to be dissapointed. Good luck
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I wasn't planning on taking the tablet outside much, Used for indoors mostly, so when not in use would be charging. How 'bad' is the battery life like?

Get the galaxy note 10.1. It's a beast at multitasking!
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There are various experience with the battery... I dont know where its the problem. I tired all the variants. Kernels rom.. Brightness etc but i cant get more of 5 hours screen on ( normal use)
I realized the problem imediatly after ive got the tablet.. 3 hours at that time from 100 % to 0 %... After few cycles ive got 5 hours but after more cycles she remained at this average. I can not do a RMA anymore. Mine doesn't have screen bleeding. Maybe you will have luck to find one with battery and screen ok. By the way, the screen its nice but not so amasing . No deep Black make sometimes screen look cheap LCD. And so what its grate for some if they almost all keep it like 30% for keep the battery alive more. Sorry for my english
Anyway the main reason i like it its because it rolls android... And have a good cpu... Besides this horror customer care from google. No original accesorie yet after months from launch... That is not the way i hoped from a monster like google and Samsung.
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Samsung note 10.1
I think this tablet is the best alternative right now, because color reproduction is more vibrant then the N10. Black is deep, other main color like red,blue,and green look much more attractive to the eyes beside from the true multitasking. ( That's why I return N10 for the note 10.1). The screen isn't that sharp compare to the N10 but it isn't that bad. (If you use the tab at a right distance, then you won't notice the pixels). Color and the true multi screens, and S-pen are a plus for the Note 10.1. In my opinion, It is the best tab since I already used the Asus transformer prime, Microsoft Surface, Nexus 10. Sorry about my English and I hope this help you.

Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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samwheat said:
Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10.
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An amoled will ALWAYS have better blacks then an LCD. Its the nature if the display. Blacks on an Amoled are pixels that are turned off, whereas an LCD panel reproduces blacks while lit. Produced blacks (amoled) > Reproduced blacks (LCD). The trade off is worse battery life, inaccurate (but over saturated, which people love) colors, and mostly god awful whites.
The Nexus 10 is a fabulous tablet. It has its issues, they all do. But for a power user like myself, there isn't even a competition. I cannot use a Touchwiz device, and ASUS burned their bridge with me over the Nexus 7. (EMMC issues, build quality nonexistent). Sony is a true competitor but I cannot stand around for months waiting for a company to issue an update. Developers are great, and porting AOSP and CM are good in general, but they have issues and most of the time the cons outweigh the pros and I have to fall back to a stock based system. To each their own though, there is not a "One tablet fits all", even the iPad isn't perfect. I couldn't get past the Apple wall, and 4:3 aspect ratio
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samwheat said:
Even my HTC desire 2.5 years old amoled display it has deeper black than n10. Don t be so overexcited. Let the big companies that already have the next 10 year tehnology deliver to us the goods faster instead of asking 500 dollars on a product that has so many anoing insuficiences.
We need a little small official pogo cable for 4 months guys... Wtf.. And Its not ready yet... This is a nice comedy with us playing in ...
I was having also Asus infinity - laggy as hell like an old 94 computer... I give it back în hope that master google give us something for 2013. Flowless device ... I was so wrong
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Amoled screens have an infinite contrast ratio, your HTC Desire will have deeper blacks the an any single non amoled device out there, put it next to an iPhone, a Nexus 4, a Droid DNA and the result will be the same.
The black levels could be better here, I won't deny that.

Wait for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. It's rumored to have a high resolution screen like the Nexus 10. Hopefully one with deeper blacks and punchier colours though.
Hopefully it will be announced on the 14th of March with the SGS4.

Just curious...is the Nook HD+ with Cyanogen worth a look? It's a bit bare-bones compared to the N10 (no BT, no camera) but otherwise, it seemed like a good value @ $269. From what I can tell, you can even buy an N2A card to make the transition to CM painless.
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If you don't need Android... The iPad 4 is a decent enough alternative. Slightly heavier, thicker and lower resolution screen. They are on sometimes on sale too.
In android world... If not the nexus... Maybe the new Asus Memo. It's a 300 tegra 3 tablet... SD and it looks like Asus fixed the memory. If not the nexus, I'd honestly wait because a whole new generation of processors are coming.
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I have a problem.....

I like this tablet!!!
Even with bloatware and not rooted this tablet out performs every 10 in tablet ive owned. It so much better than my asus infinity rooted running cromix. This is one reason i dont undrrstand some of the criticism in the forum, usally using a smaller tablet or phone or res. to say whats wrong with p600.
I put nova, and thumbs keyboard and the touchwiz is not noticeable. It looks like and acts like my other tablets only better. All my unrooted apps work. And now my rooted aps as well, and they all look great.
I use my tablet several hours a day. A tablet has been my primary device for the last couple of years. I tried a new notebook this year and i just couldnt handle it. I tried win 8. Salvation. I like the next smaller tablet size for holding, but the smaller bezel and light wt . Works for me.
The visual improvement is much better on old my eyes and book reading is easier than nook or my kindle. Niether paper whites.
Pictures oh yea the pictures look so much better than on asus with same resolution. I do more reasearch on this.
Sound could ne better but is better than 700.
I like this tablet and i havnt had a regrett buying it.
Woody
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Try Viper Audio to help with the sound. It can be a bit tricky setting it up but the sound and customization is so much better. You can search the forums to get the links.
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Pictures oh yea the pictures look so much better than on asus with same resolution. I do more reasearch on this.
Sound could ne better but is better than 700.
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I had the tf700 as well. When it came time to pick up this year's models I looked at the 701 but the non standard charger and horrible I/o lag on the 700 made me decide to give Samsung another shot. My Original Tab 10.1 is still going strong after being abused by my 4 year old for a year. I hope this one holds up just as well.

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I had the tf700 as well. When it came time to pick up this year's models I looked at the 701 but the non standard charger and horrible I/o lag on the 700 made me decide to give Samsung another shot. My Original Tab 10.1 is still going strong after being abused by my 4 year old for a year. I hope this one holds up just as well.
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Your process was the same as mine. The infinity had so much promise, it's a shame it didn't deliver. Maybe thats why i have a hard time with some of the comments. I knkw what slow and unresponsive on an expensive tablet is.
Woody
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Nvidia tegra note 7 quick review

Figured I would write a quick review of this awesome tablet since I have seen many questions on XDA but no review.
Build quality: build quality as a whole is brilliant, it only creaks if you apply a lot of pressure to the device, and if you I like to squeeze your devices then you may have personal issues , this tablet is not for someone who likes beautiful pretty tablets, the design is for someone who likes build quality that screams power and has a very aggressive design.
Display: the display is not the best we all seem to have realised that, but its good enough and there is much worse out their. The colours seem washed out a lot but one positive (with mine anyway) is the white colour, its REALLY pure white, no yellowish hue or blue.
Camera: both are not good, front is unusable and back is OK but lacks detail. ALOT. Still can't find where the slow motion feature is.
Performance wise: this tablet is blazing fast, its the fastest tablet I have owned hands down, and I have has the nexus 7 2013 and Toshiba excite pro which also had a tegra 4 processor. Lag is non existent and apps open up faster than my galaxy S4.
benchmarks:
Geekbench multi core: 2503
Antutu: 35090
Stylus: I have had every single galaxy note device and the stylus on the tegra note is much more accurate and responsive, with the galaxy note the on screen cursor always lagged a couple millimetres behind the pen, but this tegra note is much more accurate, would of looked much better though if screen was Full HD.
Battery: battery life has been OK, I am currently on KitKat and I get the same screen on time as I do in heavy usage as I do on my S4, which is between 5 - 6 hours. Its enough for me but may not be for some. I always use it on the balance settings with low brightness, sync off and WiFi always on.
Software: KitKat update has been OK for me, I don't have a SD card inside so don't experience the issues with the SD writing. Its stock android and is buttery smooth.
My rating: 9\10
I love this tablet after all, probably would give it a 7.5 if it wasn't so cheap (got mine for £140)
Any sensible questions are welcome. Will be doing a video review on my YouTube channel soon.
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Nice review, I was torn between the Nexus 7 2013 and the Note and eventually went with the note and can't say I'm disappointed as yet. Little miffed at the moment with the SD card issue since the KitKat upgrade but hopefully will be sorted shortly.
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tystar said:
Nice review, I was torn between the Nexus 7 2013 and the Note and eventually went with the note and can't say I'm disappointed as yet. Little miffed at the moment with the SD card issue since the KitKat upgrade but hopefully will be sorted shortly.
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I was worried about the 1gb RAM but I haven't had any issues yet.
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The screen sounds worrisome how bad is bad???
We all have different definitions of screens my Galaxy Note 3 is seriously annoying I prefer the neutral Asus Memo Pad HD 7 is it neutral at least or does it look like 08-09 tech??? From the vids I've seen it seems fine but I know it's different in person.

The screen sounds worrisome how bad is bad???
We all have different definitions of screens my Galaxy Note 3 is seriously annoying I prefer the neutral Asus Memo Pad HD 7 is it neutral at least or does it look like 08-09 tech??? From the vids I've seen it seems fine but I know it's different in person.
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At 213 DPI, is somewhere just above the acceptable line, dead trigger 2 on high graphics and full brightness looks amazing, but kills the battery in under 2hours. So far from the best, but equally far from the worst possible, screen is fairly mediocre, but the extra power of the Tegra chip makes up for that with increased graphic fidelity.
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Screen is just OK.not bad not brilliant. Unless your a pixel peeper then you'll be happy with it.
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aliaksei said:
dead trigger 2 on high graphics and full brightness looks amazing, but kills the battery in under 2hours..
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Good info I'd check for something running in the background both of my devices get 8 to 9 hours either that's a typo or something is seriously wrong or maybe it's the cpu/gpu. Sounds a bit fishy to me.

guys please check out my video review of the tegra note 7.
sorry my editing skills are hit and miss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoNAAdt6U4&list=UUUYlHn7aNxFv_OxHSsK8wpw&feature=c4-overview

Kenobz said:
Good info I'd check for something running in the background both of my devices get 8 to 9 hours either that's a typo or something is seriously wrong or maybe it's the cpu/gpu. Sounds a bit fishy to me.
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sorry typo, 4 hours that was meant to say, with it in high performance mode and nothing major in the background

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guys please check out my video review of the tegra note 7.
sorry my editing skills are hit and miss.
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It was decent but overall a bore you were drone like the ceiling lamp/fan was bad and even worse it become apparent you recorded a voice over once the camera showed your face in the tablet reflection which showed still lips but a voice coming out. Starting with a demonstration is great only a few can relay specs and have their viewers not fast forward what they already know. Overall as I said it was decent.

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It was decent but overall a bore you were drone like the ceiling lamp/fan was bad and even worse it become apparent you recorded a voice over once the camera showed your face in the tablet reflection which showed still lips but a voice coming out. Starting with a demonstration is great only a few can relay specs and have their viewers not fast forward what they already know. Overall as I said it was decent.
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No you didn't. You said first it was overall a bore. You just condtridicted yourself buddy. Anyway thanks for feedback. I didn't have the proper equipment and I ain't no professional. I do now so I am back doing videos. But anyway please come across a bit more friendly next time you give advice
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No you didn't. You said first it was overall a bore. You just condtridicted yourself buddy. Anyway thanks for feedback. I didn't have the proper equipment and I ain't no professional. I do now so I am back doing videos. But anyway please come across a bit more friendly next time you give advice
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I'm fine with the way I gave/give advice except I missed a sum up just in case you didn't understand a/the paragraph.
-Drone like voice
-You tilted the device wrongly catching bad reflection
-Overall a bore but it was decent the bore comes from your voice and "default" spec talk
I said nothing about your equipment next time there won't be a next time the video was a snooze. As far as being a professional if it's a goal work at it there are a couple points already equipment is fine, your voice, constantly moving the tablet around, makes it a bit boring. Trusting equipment to catch you won't work I'd suggest you get the basics first. As far as nice I'm some where in the middle don't read to much into it either the effort is good or bad but with work you can become better.
Good luck.

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I'm fine with the way I gave/give advice except I missed a sum up just in case you didn't understand a/the paragraph.
-Drone like voice
-You tilted the device wrongly catching bad reflection
-Overall a bore but it was decent the bore comes from your voice and "default" spec talk
I said nothing about your equipment next time there won't be a next time the video was a snooze. As far as being a professional if it's a goal work at it there are a couple points already equipment is fine, your voice, constantly moving the tablet around, makes it a bit boring. Trusting equipment to catch you won't work I'd suggest you get the basics first. As far as nice I'm some where in the middle don't read to much into it either the effort is good or bad but with work you can become better.
Good luck.
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The voice was due to my poor knowledge with how to put the voice OVER the video itself and a bad mic, yes I did tilt it and got bad reflection I agree, and yes my voice was like a "drone" as you say. And it was pretty dull I must admit.
All your points I mostly agree with. And thank you for your honesty, but there are ways to be more positive with giving advice that's all I am saying.
Maybe I am just a British stereotype who get's offended easily, if that's the case I do apologise!

Thanks for the review and also to Android insanity for posting up the helpful video, I have just sold my galaxy note 8" tablet and was either going to spend the money on a ps vita or this note 7.
A question, when you install games does it automatically default to highest quality graphics or do you have to tweak things to get them.

THUDUK said:
Thanks for the review and also to Android insanity for posting up the helpful video, I have just sold my galaxy note 8" tablet and was either going to spend the money on a ps vita or this note 7.
A question, when you install games does it automatically default to highest quality graphics or do you have to tweak things to get them.
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Yes, games automatically get set to highest graphics quality. I have played Riptide GP 2, Asphalt 8, Smash Hit, Real Boxing ( price dropped by 77%, I will buy it now!!!!! ) and all automatically get set to max graphics. Other games like Real Racing 3 automatically download the optimized data files for tegra 4.
There is also option in development section in setting to force 4X MSAA Anti-aliasing to all applications.
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( I would prefer to buy Note 7, it is new and has amazing stylus PLUS superb battery performance when playing HD movies over wifi - around 9 hrs. )