As you know, Nexus 7 doesn't have HDMI, and I thought it's Micro USB doesn't support MHL or USB OTG. But, I just found this device which claims it's verified to be compatible with the Nexus 7?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CQKM2U/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Is this possible? If so, could I do mirroring with this device?
The Nexus 7 has been known to support USB OTG for a long time now, which is what that device can be used for, not MHL.
Oh...Ok.. I thought MHL/OTG were one in the same. Gotcha. This line in the description is deceptive then:
"*The MHL function is compatible with most phones. Verified Compatible Devices: --Nexus 7 Tablet"
So, just to confirm, that device will work with the N7, however the HDMI output of it will not work, correct?
That's correct... mhl is a hardware chip and is not on the nexus 7... however the tegra 3 fully spuuports miracast which is a new wifi standard that can mirror over smart and wifi direct enabled TVs... so its coming (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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Any idea if the 7 supports a external DAC out of the box? I am still waiting for USB Support on my Galaxy Nexus - jelly bean on the GN does not natively support it.
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The Engadget article "Gear4 speaker dock supports USB audio for Jelly Bean at Google I/O 2012 (hands-on video)!" (I'm not able to post links yet) seems to suggest that JB supports USB audio out.
It does not support standard USB DAC out of the box.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 does.
The Nexus 7 only supports Jelly Bean's android proprietary USB audio, which is a situation where the android computer device is USB client and the DAC is USB host.
I am not sure what google was smoking when they came up with that; in which level of hell does it make sense that the computer would be client to a host DAC? Seriously wtf.
Anyway, standard USB DACs operate as USB clients, because that is logical. The Nexus 7 does not support this, as it is important that Google reinvent the wheel.
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It does not support standard USB DAC out of the box.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 does.
The Nexus 7 only supports Jelly Bean's android proprietary USB audio, which is a situation where the android computer device is USB client and the DAC is USB host.
I am not sure what google was smoking when they came up with that; in which level of hell does it make sense that the computer would be client to a host DAC? Seriously wtf.
Anyway, standard USB DACs operate as USB clients, because that is logical. The Nexus 7 does not support this, as it is important that Google reinvent the wheel.
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Wouldn't Google design it this way so that the device could charged while docked into a USB DAC dock?
bradsh1 said:
It does not support standard USB DAC out of the box.
The Samsung Galaxy S3 does.
The Nexus 7 only supports Jelly Bean's android proprietary USB audio, which is a situation where the android computer device is USB client and the DAC is USB host.
I am not sure what google was smoking when they came up with that; in which level of hell does it make sense that the computer would be client to a host DAC? Seriously wtf.
Anyway, standard USB DACs operate as USB clients, because that is logical. The Nexus 7 does not support this, as it is important that Google reinvent the wheel.
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Correct, can confirm that neither my E7 or E17 will work with the N7. E7 does work with my S3.
Hi guys,
Anyone know if the n4 has mhl support like its predecessor?
Cheers
It does.
Actually, it doesn't. It uses a different technology called SlimPort HDMI which is very similar but doesn't require having your phone connected to a power source like MHL does.
It also supports Miracast which is a wireless solution.
Great, thanks. Was always disappointed that my nexus 7 didn't have any way to connect to HDMI. Well my desire s is on its way out the door on the 13th.
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Actually, it doesn't. It uses a different technology called SlimPort HDMI which is very similar but doesn't require having your phone connected to a power source like MHL does.
It also supports Miracast which is a wireless solution.
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So does this mean that it will use the same adapter, or will there be a different one that is required to get HDMI out?
Miracast does look cool, but isn't that useful until more devices include it in or I buy a receiver for it (which I will).
I'm interested in this as well, SlimPort looks nice, except the price ($30) is way higher than MHL adapters. Are we sure that it won't work with MHL?
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Just read this on endadget: http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/30/nexus-4-boasts-slimport-support/
Questions:
(1) What's the difference between MHL and SlimPort?
(2) Does either one of these two option allow us to charge N4 while connecting to an external display?
If yes to (2) I'm 95% for getting an N4, and if yes to (2) with SlimPort then I'm up to 99.9% (engadget claims that there will be SlimPort-to-VGA adaptor -- yes some of still needs to give presentation using VGA...)
so does that mean that mhl will not work? -=X
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html
I guess it's not compatible with MHL, but apparently it allows mirroring without external power, and it apparently also supports OTG, so i guess it's basically a "better" version of MHL.
*coughs* http://xkcd.com/927/
It also has a pass-through USB port to allow it to be charged whilst being used. I wonder if it would allow it be a USB host and SlimPort at the same time.
Here's how I think it works after trying to research it. I could be wrong about some of this so don't take it as fact.
If your TV specifically has built-in SlimPort support, it means that when you connect your N4 to the TV using a SlimPort cable or adapter, the phone will actually be charged by the TV through the HDMI cable. If the TV doesn't support SlimPort directly, then the cable/adapter will still work, but it won't charge the phone, and as a result your N4 will lose battery over time. In that situation, you can connect a separate power cable (in the same way that MHL works) if you want to charge simultaneously.
more recent version of mhl should do usb OTG at the same time as Video
According to all knowledgeable Wikipedia... MHL can power devices too, so I don't see what's different between it and SlimPort.
The HDTV provides power to the connected device (5 V DC/500 mA with MHL 1.0, 5 V DC/900 mA with MHL 2.0).
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Slimport can also handle N4 --> DVI, VGA or Displayport
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
So can I use my MHL adapter?
slimport to hdmi converter
dsmdc5 said:
So can I use my MHL adapter?
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can not use MHL adapter，they are different things。
we have producted slimport to hdmi converter，and work well。
MHL no worky with Nexus 4
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So can I use my MHL adapter?
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I just tried the MHL adapter that worked with my Galaxy Nexus, and it definitely doesn't work with my Nexus 4.
barrand said:
I just tried the MHL adapter that worked with my Galaxy Nexus, and it definitely doesn't work with my Nexus 4.
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I just tried the slimport, which definitely doesn't work with my galaxy nexus.
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I just tried the slimport, which definitely doesn't work with my galaxy nexus.
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So the newer slimport adaptor is not "backwards compatible" to MHL?
Too bad... I just ordered a 2013 Nexus 7 and a slimport adaptor and I thought, perhaps this adaptor would work with my Xperia Z, too...
juste some new devices
look here http://www.slimportconnect.com/supported-devices/
Hello, I have a Google Nexus 7 tabled and I like it very much. The only flaw I see is the screen colors but for budget tablet is is ok.
I have a question: Does Nexus 7 supports any microUSB to HDMI cable ?
I have read numerous posts in the internet about how Nexus 7 does not support neither HDMI or OTG - but I have a OTG cable and it works great, mice, keyboards, flash drives and even a 1 TB external hard drive work great on the tablet.
So I bought this cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-5ft-1-5...912&pid=100015&prg=1085&rk=1&sd=230893786628&
but after I received it - I can't make anytong to make the cable work.
does anyone have any info on how to make it work or is is a possibility at all to have HDMI output on Nexus 7.
thanks.
As far as I know, n7 doesn't support any kind of HDMI out. As they have labeled that item as for the nexus 7 they are wrong... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nope, sorry but there is no way. Unless no way known to me...and believe me, I made a very wide research!
i found this dock on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...id=1378589679&sr=8-1&keywords=multimedia+dock i was wondering if anyone here thinks this dock would work for a nexus. i want to connect a portable hard drive, wireless keyboard, charger and hdmi all in one. this seems to meet my needs.
I've seen a lot of comments about the Nexus 4 not supporting usb OTG devices, so it will probably only work for charging, & maybe not even that.
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i found this dock on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...id=1378589679&sr=8-1&keywords=multimedia+dock i was wondering if anyone here thinks this dock would work for a nexus. i want to connect a portable hard drive, wireless keyboard, charger and hdmi all in one. this seems to meet my needs.
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No, the Nexus 4 does not support USB OTG. The HDMI output probably uses MHL for USB A/V while the Nexus 4 uses SlimPort for USB A/V. This will only be useful for charging; even then it might not charge it due to the MHL chip in it.
www.androidcentral.com/android-advanced-usb-otg-nexus-4
OTG is supported in CyanogenMod's 10.1 M2
Now the question is Will CyanogenMod's 10.1 M2 support the Samsung Galaxy Smart Dock?