So I recently bought a refurbished NC, should be arriving any day now.
I have read a bit about registering the nook (which I assume links it with your b&n account) and about signing in with google to get market, gmail, etc. (i'll probably run cm7).
My question is: I have a barnes and noble acct already with a couple books on it, let's call it "abcd+bn AT gmail"
I have an android/gmail acct I would like to use so I can share purchased apps and whatnot, which is "abcd AT gmail"
Google treats them as the same account, but I saw something about how they should be matched on the nook, so I guess I'm wondering which e-mails I should use to sign in where, or if it is possible to have both of these working at the same time.
If not, re-registering "abcd AT gmail" on b&n will probably be the preferable option because I only have a couple books and stripped DRM so I can transfer them over easily, they just won't appear in my actual Nook Library TM or whatever.
Thanks for the help.
If you use CM7, there is no need to register for a BN account. CM7 does not incorporate the BN Registration.
When you first get your NC, go through the start up process and sign into your existing B&N account with the same name and password that you would use if you were on their website. This will get you registered in the event you have a warranty problem later. After that, if you decide to root the stock ROM or install a custom ROM such as CM7 for market access you will use your regular Android account. At that point, if you install the B&N Nook reader app from the Android market you just sign in to your B&N account normally when you launch the app. Your B&N account and your Android account are completely separate.
Makes total sense, thanks
Looking forward to it!
My son got my first HD2. What I did not know when I installed it the first time before he got it, was the fixation of the phone to the gmail-account I used at that time and only for that purpose. Intuition has its flip side too.
My son has his own gmail account, which I was not aware of, and obviously he wants to have his HD2 running his affairs on his own account (communicate with friends etc.)
Now, he has used the HD2 extensively, installed lots of apps, also some paid ones. Purging my old (installation-) account will reset the whole device to its initial state, all accounts and licences will be lost, if he understands that warning correctly.
Is there a way to change the 'ownership' with as little damage to the contents as possible, like save all contents as a backup, start with a new account identity, and restore all contents? Or will that also inevitably overwrite the new account with the old one too?
One could call the task also a migration of an android installation to a different account. BTW, it's equipped with a 16 GB card which has lots of free space left right now (looking at the backup space needs).
I am sure this has been discussed here before, but I seem to not find the right search words. Any hints, links, advice?
Would a total backup using Titanium be advisable? Or will that restore the present status including the unwanted account again?
Thanks for your help in advance. It doesn't make things simpler that my son and his HD2 are some 1.000 miles from here, studying there. but we have skype and other paths on PCs...
Cheers,
the longkeeler.
You can always use Titanium Backup to back up the apps (the paid ones, too), make a factory reset and let him set his own account and then restore the backup.
But you can never transfer the ownership of app(s) from one account to another. (For example, by using TB backup, he can use the paid apps, but he won't be able to update them, he'd need to buy them from his own account)
I'm sorry, but that is the way Android works. (which is lame)
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Clearing the primary gmail-account and thus resetting the device did not remove just that account, which kind of surprises me. Well, I don't have the HD2 in my hands, and I just hope that my son will have made the backup I advised hin to make and store it where he can reconstruct from.
Cheers,
the longkeeler.
But at least, he would have back what was there before. The nature of the paid apps is static, there are no backups to be expected. And it was not an amount of money that would kill anyone - just throwing it away should be avoided. Now, as posted a few minutes before, he was not successful to remove the undesired account. Are there any protections built in, that follow the great old MS tradition , it's not a bug, it's a feature, if not even industry standard?
it is however possible - to some extent - to "merge" google accounts.
if you do not use your gmail acc (as i understood from your first post) you can transfer quite a bit of contacts/features and stuff to your sons account and the other way round. this way he might be able to keep the paid apps (and updates) and also communicate with his friend on the dame account.
if thats any help...
Is the phone running froyo or gingerbread? If it is on Ginger then try deleting the account from sync and accounts... that's all for froyo u will need root explorer to delete a file located in the data folder.
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From accounts and sync remove the account.. I believe this only works for Ginger ..
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You can also do it by deleting this file With root explorer . Hope this helped.
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Just use your sons email and then go to accounts and sync.turn sync off. That's basically your only hope.
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First: Thanks to all for your replies!
Afaik, it's the gingerbread flavor.
I have the same type of HD2 here for myself but don't want to mess that up too much - I just saw under acc and synch that my account appears there once under mail and then under google.
If I remove either of those - does it only purge the link from my device to gmail resp. all other google-accounts, or does it remove the account as a whole from google's servers? (if so, probably only from the visible surface, but that's a different story...)
I am not sure if my son sees the same image and what he did there.
So again: Does "removing" the account on the smartphone just "divorce" it from google, or does it kill it?
Thanks again for your help!
Cheers,
The Longkeeler
Nieve, thank you so much. I am not sure yet if it will work but it sounds plausible. surprising how close to the surface such an essential database is located - like the rock that merged with the Costa Concordia... So, everybody just can hope that it will become easier in future to change the primary account rights.
A different side-question: What tool did you use to add the hints to the screen shots?
Extended thought, not necessarily useful for my son's problem, but: Would it be possible to cultivate different versions of the accounts.db, renaming them according to the desired application spectrum (like, say, change the "personality" of the phone from business to leisure)?
Reset device completely
With a clean device when the touch android screen comes up...
he signs in with his account. Establishes his acct as primary
then logs in with your acct secondly or later on in order to get access to the paid apps on your account
Only way to xhange primary is a wipe of data. The primary is simply the very first acccount entered after a device reset.
Your a great mom!
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You can also do it by deleting this file With root explorer
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Nieve, thanks. After getting root explorer 2.15 I can see into the innards now too - on my phone here, there is the accounts.db of course, and two more entries, one called accounts.db-wal and the other accounts.db-shm. Look more like folders. What about those?
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Always try to do my best, and I'll ask my wife for her opinion on this . Well, I'm just only the dad...
But your proposal sounds very reasonable and based on practice. If nieve's and your advice can be combined (purging the data base, tnen installing accs from scratch), it would be great.
accounts removed now, but no re-installation yet.
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(\data\system\accounts.db) deleted - et voilà, after rebooting, no more accounts. So, step one done successfully. So, again, thanks for that!
Now came the next one, re-installing his own gmail account as a primary one. He could open the dialogue - but his entry was refused, 'sorry, username and pw don't match.' Bummer. He tried it several times, took care that the account was not opened anywhere else - no avail so far. The error message could well be misleading.
There must be a missing resp. hidden link.
Update: re-installing the prior "false" primary account worked immediately. So, the error message IS misleading. I guess there will be no other way than to completely re-initiate the whole system and then start with the other identiy. Unfortunately, the HD2 has to travel 2.000 miles for that, but it is the safest way then. My son has neither the experience nor the tools to do that himself there.
If somebody has yet another idea - please don't hesitate to let us know!
The application is call picsin, you can find it in the android market...about his account ask him to make sure his email and password are correct. I have change my accounts many times doing that process. He can maybe try login to his account thru the browser, just to make sure the email and password are right.
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Update: re-installing the prior "false" primary account worked immediately. So, the error message IS misleading.
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Some times, the solution comes as a surprise. Just before my son had started his trial to rearrange the accounts yesterday, he had applied for a new login scheme with google - some double-password story. This, he had not mentioned until today, an hour ago, when he received a mail from google, giving him directions on how to handle logins in a transitional phase.
You guess it: All is well now, he has his own account as the primary one, and sounds much more relaxed than before.
Oh well...
But nevertheless: Your help was absolutely substantial in achieving this, and I hope that the bitdust will settle soon... So thanks again, I can recommend you
Cheers, and a happy rest of this weekend!
The Longkeeler, now also a bit more in weekend mood/mode.
That's good to hear! And a pleasure to help.
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I cannot seem to find the email on which I registered my NC. I only have 3.. and I've checked them all.
Is there some way I can check this value in a CWM rooted Nook?
Preferably without unrooting, registering again, and rerooting..? ???
katsrevenge said:
I cannot seem to find the email on which I registered my NC. I only have 3.. and I've checked them all.
Is there some way I can check this value in a CWM rooted Nook?
Preferably without unrooting, registering again, and rerooting..? ???
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Do you mean when you registered the stock Nook with B&N? It's the same as your sign on to the B&N website.
Well.. I've never actually signed into the B&N website. I'd read GP books and library stuff on the Nook Color. I'd just bought a Simple Reader though, and wanted them to have the same sign in just in case.
I ended up having to unroot, and try to reregestar and talk to B&N support since neither of the emails I use worked. I'd miss-spelled my email when I set it up. Embarrassing but funny, and cost me an hour of my life trying to work with a rep who kept insisting I restart my router. She eventually reset it for me though.
Well, I've rooted my NSTGL somewhere a month ago, installed all the apps I need and since then I rarely used wifi, turning it on for a shop sinchronisation only. But today I discovered that my youtube, market and gmail apps don't work, but browser does. Last messages in gmail is from 2nd october. In other device's threads there are suggestions to re-login in google account, but I don't see any way to do it. So, do I need to re-root my nook or there are some other solutions?
Have you tried Synker to get the googls apps syncing again?
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Have you tried Synker to get the googls apps syncing again?
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It seems pretty hard to install this app without an .apk which I was unsuccessfully googling for the last half an hour.
Here is the synker widget - the developer is afterhoursdevelopers
you should be able to save this to your nook sdcard and then click on it from your nook to install.
I have rooted nstg with 1337 rom. For very long time i've been using dropbox & dropsync to sync nstg with my hdd bookshelf. But my old version of dropsync is not working anymore and newer is not compatible with android 2.1.
Is there any other usable aplication to sync dropbox. Or maybe there is better system to sync computer with nook over internet?
Yes, i know this is ancient system and hardware. But apart from this feature it is still usable.
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I have rooted nstg with 1337 rom. For very long time i've been using dropbox & dropsync to sync nstg with my hdd bookshelf. But my old version of dropsync is not working anymore and newer is not compatible with android 2.1.
Is there any other usable aplication to sync dropbox. Or maybe there is better system to sync computer with nook over internet?
Yes, i know this is ancient system and hardware. But apart from this feature it is still usable.
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So, I only know about Dropbox. Is that not working for your NSTG any more? Google Books is another option if all the books are EPUBs.
Mmm.....I just fired up Dropbox on my NST and uploaded a file which I can see on my PC.
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Mmm.....I just fired up Dropbox on my NST and uploaded a file which I can see on my PC.
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Can You tell me your exact version of the app? Is it orginal dropbox app or third party like dropsync?
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Can You tell me your exact version of the app? Is it orginal dropbox app or third party like dropsync?
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It's an "original" Dropbox app, v 1.2.4. You can download the apk file (and others) by following the link in my signature below.
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It's an "original" Dropbox app, v 1.2.4. You can download the apk file (and others) by following the link in my signature below.
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I checked. You are right. Orginal dropbox 1.2.4 works. But it can only download/upload files. I can't sync local folder and dropbox. I would like to have exact copy because i mostly read offline
Bwt. link to zip i post from signature is blocked by mediafire.
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I checked. You are right. Orginal dropbox 1.2.4 works. But it can only download/upload files. I can't sync local folder and dropbox. I would like to have exact copy because i mostly read offline
Bwt. link to zip i post from signature is blocked by mediafire.
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Thanks for the heads-up on the file problem at Mediafire. Hmm...I wonder how to get around that?
There is still Google Books. Once the book is available on your device for off-line reading, you don't need to reconnect and sync unless you want to read it from some other device and pick up where you left off.
Edit: OK, I think I've fixed the zip file download. At least it just worked for me from a newly edited link. Thanks again for the info.
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Thanks for the heads-up on the file problem at Mediafire. Hmm...I wonder how to get around that?
There is still Google Books. Once the book is available on your device for off-line reading, you don't need to reconnect and sync unless you want to read it from some other device and pick up where you left off.
Edit: OK, I think I've fixed the zip file download. At least it just worked for me from a newly edited link. Thanks again for the info.
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I don't see Dropbox in the linked page. Is it still available/working?
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I don't see Dropbox in the linked page. Is it still available/working?
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You're right, it's gone. I removed it recently since I never used it. Let me see if I can scare up a copy.
Edit: Here you go. Version 2.3.8. I just tried it and was able to log into my account.
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You're right, it's gone. I removed it recently since I never used it. Let me see if I can scare up a copy.
Edit: Here you go. Version 2.3.8. I just tried it and was able to log into my account.
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When I try to log in, I get a message saying the app is out of date and I need to update it. Is there a way to get around that?
Edit: It won't let me log in because of the message, it's not just a superficial issue.
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When I try to log in, I get a message saying the app is out of date and I need to update it. Is there a way to get around that?
Edit: It won't let me log in because of the message, it's not just a superficial issue.
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That's pretty bizarre. I really did install it last night before posting and was able to sign in without difficulty. I even saw a document I left there some time ago.
I wonder...have you updated your cacerts.bks file? Maybe the security certificate needed to sign in to the Dropbox server has expired in the old cacerts.bks file. That's not so far-fetched as a cause since similar behavior was seen with the Kindle app when that certificate expired.
Omg thank you so much for posting this apk - it worked to get my NST back into Dropbox with the workflow I’m used to. I thought the ability to use a working Dropbox sync was dead long ago
FWIW - I accidentally clicked login without my password filled, it asked for a 2-factor password pin sent to my email. I entered it and my Dropbox password and it’s all good now
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Omg thank you so much for posting this apk - it worked to get my NST back into Dropbox with the workflow I’m used to. I thought the ability to use a working Dropbox sync was dead long ago
FWIW - I accidentally clicked login without my password filled, it asked for a 2-factor password pin sent to my email. I entered it and my Dropbox password and it’s all good now
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You're welcome. No one is more surprised than I am since I long ago got the message from Dropbox that the old app would no longer be supported!