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Stutter in screen scrolling

Right now with all the new kenels with have manage to approach 60fps. But it will never be smooth enough if we dont get the stutter fix.
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does. The problem is at any window such has contact if u swipe u get a very smooth scrolling but if you hold your finger and scroll very slowly u will see microstutter and not a smooth scrolling.
Im not sure if this has been posted before and dont know if it might be the screen or actual Os
Im holding the zune hd & iphone. Both device does not suffer from this microstutter
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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eduardmc said:
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does.
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MaliciousOne said:
Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Strange I do have stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
And I agree with OP. I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed this. When flicking through homescreens on launcher pro (or even sense) the scrolling is completely smooth. When you hold your finger on the screen and move it, it stutters and makes very tiny jumps. It's not appealing. It's great we've been able to crack the 30fps limit despite HTC's unhelpful attitude. I think the next step would be to get rid of the stuttering.

I have the same exact issue and have noticed this from day one. It's quite annoying. I thought the fix for fps would stop it, but I was wrong. I've tried to ignore it, but such a thing cannot be ignored by my eyes. It's noticeable every time and more annoying each time.
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I have been bothered by this since day one also. its the only negative thing a colleague of mine (blackberry user) has to say when he compares iphone to evo. its there wether you notice or not

When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.

conqu1stador said:
When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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it won't be noticeable until you have an iphone or zune hd, who ever saids that it's not there is because they have not notice it at all. i have use all fresh roms and still have it.
Go to a website or to contacts and swipe to scroll, you will see a very butter smooth scrolling. Have a iphone on hand and do the same, you'll that the smoothness is about the same. Now grab the screen with your finger and slowly without let in go of the finger scroll up or down. You'll see a microstutter which is very obvious when you compare it to a OS like iphone or Zune HD (and from video do not see it in wm7). Is very annoying. I have the iphone 4g next to me and can tell you that the scrolling between home screens are about the same smoothness wise (using launcher pro with king's kenel #8). But the microstutter is so obvious between devices that is to hard not to notice.
like i said, i'm not sure if this is due to the screen or what, i'll try it on my sister nexus but is good that could take a development look into this problem aswell.

Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Nova is what i have at the moment and this happens. running Evio, my friend with me right now has an epson running fresh and does it has well.

The people who claim they don't have it are simply not seeing it, but it's definitely there. It's on my brother's evo, mine, and my friends.
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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conqu1stador said:
Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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i have tried CM6 and still there. It will always be smooth with any rom, even more with cm6, but this is something else. Is something with how the screen detects the scrolling touch while holding it.
like i said before, you'll not really notice it much until you see an iphone and compare both side by side. Then you'll see the problem i'm talking about.

as a previous iPhone user, this was the first thing I noticed when I got the phone. the scrolling just isn't as smooth.

build.prop edits for droid x:
To enable better scrolling speed through lists, I changed
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
Scrolling through the app drawer and contacts and any lists really is now smoother
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232

Very cool hopefully fix is implemented in are customs fast

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build.prop edits for droid x:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
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Awesome, dude. Thanks a lot. Just did exactly what the post said, so I'll be testing this.
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i dont know if this will work for the evo. i dont really notice a difference using cm6. perhaps others will have better luck.

It's only been about ten minutes since my last post but I don't see a HUGE difference. IMO this isn't worth doing. I wonder if this problem will ever be fixed. Oh well.
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I cant find that windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55 in my build.prop file

Sticky scrolling ICS 4.0.3 (intertia drift)

I've updated my Nexus S to Official ICS 4.0.3.
It's running nice, but scrolling is very slow and sticky.
I can't scroll fast in my contacts list or in browser.
What's happening here?

It's like that all through the OS for the most part. The framerate is better, but what's the point if it feels worse..

that is the new animation effect, it's not slower
it just like the animation for the screen rotation from landscape to vertical and back
you think it's slow but it's not
just turn it off if you don't like to see those effects
FYI: people with the spanking brand new 720 Galaxy Nexus are complaining about the same thing

AllGamer said:
that is the new animation effect, it's not slower
it just like the animation for the screen rotation from landscape to vertical and back
you think it's slow but it's not
just turn it off if you don't like to see those effects
FYI: people with the spanking brand new 720 Galaxy Nexus are complaining about the same thing
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all my animations are already turned off. I'm not talking about animation, but scrolling is slow.
i have to wipe 4-5 time down to reach the bottom of my contact list.
on gingerbread 2 times

knjigo said:
all my animations are already turned off. I'm not talking about animation, but scrolling is slow.
i have to wipe 4-5 time down to reach the bottom of my contact list.
on gingerbread 2 times
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ahhhhh... that's different
you are referring to the Inertia Drift
they changed it in 4.0
CM7 had an option to control how fast or how slow the inertia drift works, but the stock ICS ROM we do not have that yet
not even the CM9 alpha, that will have to wait for a while before we can change that, unless you know which setting to hack

AllGamer said:
ahhhhh... that's different
you are referring to the Inertia Drift
they changed it in 4.0
CM7 had an option to control how fast or how slow the inertia drift works, but the stock ICS ROM we do not have that yet
not even the CM9 alpha, that will have to wait for a while before we can change that, unless you know which setting to hack
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Yeah, I want that drift again. It sucks like this
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Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.

juliano_q said:
Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.
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Inertia Drift != scrolling frame-rate.

drleospaceman said:
Inertia Drift != scrolling frame-rate.
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What's this a tweak?
Is it I'm build.prop?
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juliano_q said:
Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.
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Doest effect scrolling
But yea scrolling smooth for me also even more at 1.2ghz
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yea its been driving me crazy as well very annoying. feels like im dragging the screen while its being weighed down by a 5 pound brick. its not a smoothness issue.
I've also noticed weird touch quirks especially with the stock launcher. sometime your swipe wont be long enough and it just stutters in place. One time in the recently opened apps i had to swipe 4 times across 75% of the screen and the dam thing wouldn't go away. other times a swipe across 25% usually does the trick. I am very disappointed with ics so far.

stutter when scrolling slowly

I've noticed that when making a slow even scroll through any app the movement is kind of jittery/stuttery - kind of like a very rapid screen flicker (but different to the screen issues posted elsewhere as the brightness setting is not a factor). It doesn't happen on any of my other devices. Don't think it's a processor issue as games/videos are flawless. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me?
On a side note, white backgrounds seem very yellow (see attachment) - especially compared to my OG transformer. It's not a massive issue and i appreciate this is a budget tablet - just wondering whether this is normal or if it's a fault.
thanks.

I'm seeing some stuttering on Google+ that I really notice.
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I notice this stutter in chrome all the time. Very frustrating.

I get stutter swiping from image to image in QuickPic, some microstuttering in Google+ in the What's Hot section.
Maybe some apps aren't GPU accelerated and the CPU is a bit on the poor side to handle it?

alan77ss said:
I've noticed that when making a slow even scroll through any app the movement is kind of jittery/stuttery - kind of like a very rapid screen flicker (but different to the screen issues posted elsewhere as the brightness setting is not a factor). It doesn't happen on any of my other devices. Don't think it's a processor issue as games/videos are flawless. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me?
On a side note, white backgrounds seem very yellow (see attachment) - especially compared to my OG transformer. It's not a massive issue and i appreciate this is a budget tablet - just wondering whether this is normal or if it's a fault.
thanks.
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Have you also noticed that the yellow background is easier on the eyes? It was done on purpose, because this was built primarily as a kindle fire competitor..
As far as the scroll stutter, its Chrome. Try Opera or Dolphin and check back with us. It does the same on mine. Dolphin, Boat, and Opera are better browsers. Try them all out, I think you'll find happiness with one of those!
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I also notice it less in the Dolphin HD or Dolphin Mini browser.
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Go into developer options and check disable hw overlays
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I have a lot of stutter in google play store,chrome and some time in games as well. It happened in dead trigger. plus when am not running any apps in the background and i go to settings,battery i see lot of stuff there like google play,chrome,dolphin browser,picspeed wallpapers and many other stuff as well. and the cracking sound that it makes on my right side of the screen. I opened the back and tightened the screw still no luck still makes noise. i can only think that the back case is making the cracking sound. Plus my jelly bean is not butter smooth like most video i have seen. I was thinking of exchanging it but am thinking if i do that i might get a even worse one. Google really need to give another update soon that fixes some of these problems

nikeman513 said:
Have you also noticed that the yellow background is easier on the eyes? It was done on purpose, because this was built primarily as a kindle fire competitor..
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Yeah, you might have a point there.
As far as the scroll stutter, its Chrome. Try Opera or Dolphin and check back with us. It does the same on mine. Dolphin, Boat, and Opera are better browsers. Try them all out, I think you'll find happiness with one of those!
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As i said, it's not specific to any particular app, it happens whether in maps, browser, menus etc. unfortunately.
Tried hw overlays; no joy i'm afraid.

This happens everywhere during any slow touchscreen movement because of a crappy touchscreen controller and crappy filtering algorithms. The app is just scrolling to wherever the touchscreen tells it to (which is to random points around your finger tip several times a second) and this makes it look like it's jumping up and down or microstuttering.

Screen throttling

So as you guys may know the screen gets throttled no matter what. But if you go on aokp the throttling isn't there so does anyone know what makes it happen and if we can stop it on touchwiz.

jetlitheone said:
So as you guys may know the screen gets throttled no matter what. But if you go on aokp the throttling isn't there so does anyone know what makes it happen and if we can stop it on touchwiz.
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Im stupid..what does throttle do?
Maybe I have it and don't even know it.

Everyone does its easily visible when the brightness is low and you're on chrome or anything for that matter even YouTube. If you bring the keyboard up you can see a color shift I'm the browser and if you are playing a YouTube video through the app you can see a color shift when you press on the screen while a video is being played. It's quite annoying but clearly a touchwiz thing. You can't even turn it off.
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jetlitheone said:
Everyone does its easily visible when the brightness is low and you're on chrome or anything for that matter even YouTube. If you bring the keyboard up you can see a color shift I'm the browser and if you are playing a YouTube video through the app you can see a color shift when you press on the screen while a video is being played. It's quite annoying but clearly a touchwiz thing. You can't even turn it off.
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Just gave me a headache.
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The color shifts a lot depending on what you're doing.
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jetlitheone said:
Everyone does its easily visible when the brightness is low and you're on chrome or anything for that matter even YouTube. If you bring the keyboard up you can see a color shift I'm the browser and if you are playing a YouTube video through the app you can see a color shift when you press on the screen while a video is being played. It's quite annoying but clearly a touchwiz thing. You can't even turn it off.
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thanks for educating me here....
I just don't see this, could it be I am old and wear glasses

Settings > My device > Display > Auto adjust screen tone. Does unchecking that fix it for you?

No it doesn't. It's integrated in touch wiz

I tried to duplicate and don't see it either--I am old--
I do have tone unchecked though

its dynamicaly adjusting to help you get the best view, i dint mind it at all haha

Actually, I just started noticing this with certain downloaded keyboards as well. I don't remember it happening with the stock keyboard, but I REALLY notice it while using Kii Keyboard in certain apps, but only darkly-themed apps. It's less noticeable with bright backgrounds.

Note 3 performance: is there any lag?

I read a couple of reviews saying that touchwiz stutters here and there on the Note 3. Can anyone who has the phone speak on this? Thanks!
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Where exactly is "here and there"? I would like to check that to answer your question better.
But i personally don't see any stutter or lag in touchwiz. The only thing i can remember that stutters badly, but very very badly, completely unusable, is the gallery. It's just terrible. Downloading the Gallery ICS from the store, and the thing flies.
I have the N-9005 version btw.

I haven't noticed any stuttering at all.

No lag but I want faster response time. Note 3 touch response time a bit faster than Note 2, slower than S4.
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Ive had it for a week now and filled it with apps with a 64gig microsd.
its smoooooooth . No lag at all.

Zanr Zij said:
No lag but I want faster response time. Note 3 touch response time a bit faster than Note, slower than S4.
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i think the complete opposite, this reminds me of touch response on my 5s, I thought the s4 touch response was terrible.
ryttge said:
I haven't noticed any stuttering at all.
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^^ non so far either, i got like 5 apps on it and have been using it heavily all day.

Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar

Hendrickson said:
Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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And I will say just opposite except for s4 part. Absolutely no lag in these 4 days of using Nothing to report...

Hendrickson said:
Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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I think it's acceptable then. As far as the home button lag it usually is because of S voice. Disable it and you should see a big improvement.
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Hendrickson said:
Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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I'm picking my phone up on Friday, but I heard the screen sensitivity can be adjusted in settings menu to increase response time for when ur wearing gloves. Try that and see if it helps?
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It's pretty smooth , only some frame drops in some apps and sometimes animations stutter.
I'm pretty "lag sensitive" and coming from an iPhone I have to say that it's probably one of the smoothest.
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Have it since 3 days (SM-N9005) and didn't noticed a lag, it didn't stutter at all and I hadn't a force close at all.
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I've rooted it now and uninstalled some s apps that caused lag it seems. I didn't need health, samsung apps etc etc. Much better now. Smooth now.

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I've rooted it now and uninstalled some s apps that caused lag it seems. I didn't need health, samsung apps etc etc. Much better now. Smooth now.
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do you have a tutorial to do this?

I have a stock Note 3, and swiping between homescreens is smooth. Lag (jank/hitches/stutter) occurs when scrolling in the browser (some sites perform better than others - but even the sites that perform poorly on the Note 3 perform great on iOS). Scrolling in the ScrapBook is not smooth - very janky/jittery. Same thing with Google Play (the main screen). Scroll and it jitters and stutters a lot. Even does strange screen refreshes at odd times. Scrolling HTML emails stutters (again, some scroll more smoothly than others, but most stutter).
It depends on how sensitive you are to jank.

I am bit disappointed overall. It's not as smooth as my s4, and my nexus 7 2013 is faster and smoother. For example, scrolling home screens is a bit jerky. Native apps can be a little slow to open, say when on the settings menu and making changes and it goes to a sub screen. Makes me realise what a great buy the N7 2ed is.

ganstar said:
I am bit disappointed overall. It's not as smooth as my s4, and my nexus 7 2013 is faster and smoother. For example, scrolling home screens is a bit jerky. Native apps can be a little slow to open, say when on the settings menu and making changes and it goes to a sub screen. Makes me realise what a great buy the N7 2ed is.
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No lag here n9005 .. no lag in the gallery.. in fact its the fastest gallery I ever seen

Had some occasional lag when I was on MI7 but everything is buttery smooth with the latest MJ7!

Man my phone was released a month ago. I expect lag/software glitches. Early adopters are always mass market beta testers. The hardware specs are proof that all lag is software related. Personally mine runs impressively smooth.
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No lag here n9005 .. no lag in the gallery.. in fact its the fastest gallery I ever seen
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That's interesting, because my Gallery is completely unusable. It's so slow and laggy i can't use it. I have installed a couple of 3rd party gallery and they are all much much faster (Quickpick and ICS Gallery).
How is this possible?!