I've updated my Nexus S to Official ICS 4.0.3.
It's running nice, but scrolling is very slow and sticky.
I can't scroll fast in my contacts list or in browser.
What's happening here?
It's like that all through the OS for the most part. The framerate is better, but what's the point if it feels worse..
that is the new animation effect, it's not slower
it just like the animation for the screen rotation from landscape to vertical and back
you think it's slow but it's not
just turn it off if you don't like to see those effects
FYI: people with the spanking brand new 720 Galaxy Nexus are complaining about the same thing
AllGamer said:
that is the new animation effect, it's not slower
it just like the animation for the screen rotation from landscape to vertical and back
you think it's slow but it's not
just turn it off if you don't like to see those effects
FYI: people with the spanking brand new 720 Galaxy Nexus are complaining about the same thing
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all my animations are already turned off. I'm not talking about animation, but scrolling is slow.
i have to wipe 4-5 time down to reach the bottom of my contact list.
on gingerbread 2 times
knjigo said:
all my animations are already turned off. I'm not talking about animation, but scrolling is slow.
i have to wipe 4-5 time down to reach the bottom of my contact list.
on gingerbread 2 times
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ahhhhh... that's different
you are referring to the Inertia Drift
they changed it in 4.0
CM7 had an option to control how fast or how slow the inertia drift works, but the stock ICS ROM we do not have that yet
not even the CM9 alpha, that will have to wait for a while before we can change that, unless you know which setting to hack
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ahhhhh... that's different
you are referring to the Inertia Drift
they changed it in 4.0
CM7 had an option to control how fast or how slow the inertia drift works, but the stock ICS ROM we do not have that yet
not even the CM9 alpha, that will have to wait for a while before we can change that, unless you know which setting to hack
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Yeah, I want that drift again. It sucks like this
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Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.
juliano_q said:
Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.
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Inertia Drift != scrolling frame-rate.
drleospaceman said:
Inertia Drift != scrolling frame-rate.
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What's this a tweak?
Is it I'm build.prop?
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juliano_q said:
Try to turn on Force GPU rendering under developer options. Scrolling is quite smooth here.
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Doest effect scrolling
But yea scrolling smooth for me also even more at 1.2ghz
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yea its been driving me crazy as well very annoying. feels like im dragging the screen while its being weighed down by a 5 pound brick. its not a smoothness issue.
I've also noticed weird touch quirks especially with the stock launcher. sometime your swipe wont be long enough and it just stutters in place. One time in the recently opened apps i had to swipe 4 times across 75% of the screen and the dam thing wouldn't go away. other times a swipe across 25% usually does the trick. I am very disappointed with ics so far.
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Right now with all the new kenels with have manage to approach 60fps. But it will never be smooth enough if we dont get the stutter fix.
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does. The problem is at any window such has contact if u swipe u get a very smooth scrolling but if you hold your finger and scroll very slowly u will see microstutter and not a smooth scrolling.
Im not sure if this has been posted before and dont know if it might be the screen or actual Os
Im holding the zune hd & iphone. Both device does not suffer from this microstutter
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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eduardmc said:
Before u begin and say that your phone does not have the stutter, well it does.
sent from htc evo 4g
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Oh really?
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Strange I have no stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
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Strange I do have stutter using fresh 3.2 with stock kernel.
And I agree with OP. I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed this. When flicking through homescreens on launcher pro (or even sense) the scrolling is completely smooth. When you hold your finger on the screen and move it, it stutters and makes very tiny jumps. It's not appealing. It's great we've been able to crack the 30fps limit despite HTC's unhelpful attitude. I think the next step would be to get rid of the stuttering.
I have the same exact issue and have noticed this from day one. It's quite annoying. I thought the fix for fps would stop it, but I was wrong. I've tried to ignore it, but such a thing cannot be ignored by my eyes. It's noticeable every time and more annoying each time.
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I have been bothered by this since day one also. its the only negative thing a colleague of mine (blackberry user) has to say when he compares iphone to evo. its there wether you notice or not
When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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When "slowly" dragging my finger to change screens I see that initial stutter but I'm not seeing the "jumping." Or is it that initial stutter?
Usually flicking through the screens as fast as my finger can go and it looks smooth as a babies .... bowel movement.
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it won't be noticeable until you have an iphone or zune hd, who ever saids that it's not there is because they have not notice it at all. i have use all fresh roms and still have it.
Go to a website or to contacts and swipe to scroll, you will see a very butter smooth scrolling. Have a iphone on hand and do the same, you'll that the smoothness is about the same. Now grab the screen with your finger and slowly without let in go of the finger scroll up or down. You'll see a microstutter which is very obvious when you compare it to a OS like iphone or Zune HD (and from video do not see it in wm7). Is very annoying. I have the iphone 4g next to me and can tell you that the scrolling between home screens are about the same smoothness wise (using launcher pro with king's kenel #8). But the microstutter is so obvious between devices that is to hard not to notice.
like i said, i'm not sure if this is due to the screen or what, i'll try it on my sister nexus but is good that could take a development look into this problem aswell.
Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Maybe a nova/epson difference. Because my nova does not stutter.
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Nova is what i have at the moment and this happens. running Evio, my friend with me right now has an epson running fresh and does it has well.
The people who claim they don't have it are simply not seeing it, but it's definitely there. It's on my brother's evo, mine, and my friends.
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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Honestly have to say I forgot what the sense contacts evn look like..if even different from aosp cm6...but if memory serves it is slightly and I get a smooth scroll. Went to some image heavy sites and notices that pictures sorta pixelate a bit when slowly scrolling but text bodies and links scroll smooth when inching along. Using dolphin HD over stock if that counts for anything. Like I said I see a slight stutter on homescreens initially but it scrolls smooth and as said maybe the aosp isn't giving me issues. Not sure?
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i have tried CM6 and still there. It will always be smooth with any rom, even more with cm6, but this is something else. Is something with how the screen detects the scrolling touch while holding it.
like i said before, you'll not really notice it much until you see an iphone and compare both side by side. Then you'll see the problem i'm talking about.
as a previous iPhone user, this was the first thing I noticed when I got the phone. the scrolling just isn't as smooth.
build.prop edits for droid x:
To enable better scrolling speed through lists, I changed
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
Scrolling through the app drawer and contacts and any lists really is now smoother
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
Very cool hopefully fix is implemented in are customs fast
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build.prop edits for droid x:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771232
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Awesome, dude. Thanks a lot. Just did exactly what the post said, so I'll be testing this.
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i dont know if this will work for the evo. i dont really notice a difference using cm6. perhaps others will have better luck.
It's only been about ten minutes since my last post but I don't see a HUGE difference. IMO this isn't worth doing. I wonder if this problem will ever be fixed. Oh well.
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I cant find that windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=55 in my build.prop file
Ok, so who thinks Android is now out of beta status with ICS, and JB? This finally feels like a complete OS. Its amazing.
Anyway, whats the best part of Jelly Bean on the Nexus S so far?
My favorite so far is the Camera. I have never seen a camera take a picture so quick, even on the One X or GSIII.
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Ok, so who thinks Android is now out of beta status with ICS, and JB? This finally feels like a complete OS. Its amazing.
Anyway, whats the best part of Jelly Bean on the Nexus S so far?
My favorite so far is the Camera. I have never seen a camera take a picture so quick, even on the One X or GSIII.
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Wow! I had not tried the camera!! It really is amazingly fast!!
I like how accurate the new voice search is. Google really killed siri
Btw, JB imho is not so buttery-smooth. However, after a few changes I think I'm satisfied:
-Change launcher to Nova
-Root and use something like Rom toolbox to change the I/O scheduler. This greatly affected my phone. I went from cfq to deadline and it's visibly snappier.
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Wow! I had not tried the camera!! It really is amazingly fast!!
I like how accurate the new voice search is. Google really killed siri
Btw, JB imho is not so buttery-smooth. However, after a few changes I think I'm satisfied:
-Change launcher to Nova
-Root and use something like Rom toolbox to change the I/O scheduler. This greatly affected my phone. I went from cfq to deadline and it's visibly snappier.
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Is your front camera working? I am having problem with front camera. Each time I switch to front camera, it crashes and then wont open untill i clear data of camera app
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Is your front camera working? I am having problem with front camera. Each time I switch to front camera, it crashes and then wont open untill i clear data of camera app
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Yep, working fine.
Two words. Project Butter.
ICS was very smooth for me this is as smooth and just so much faster @ stock speed compared to 1.3ghz I ran on ICS.
Can't wait to see how fast things are with customs OC kernels
Launcher still blows homescreen transition not smooth at all just snappier
App drawer smooth though
The first thing I changed was the I/O scheduler. Deadline or noop ftw for ondemand.
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Yep, working fine.
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I dont know why the hell mine keeps crashing
I am impressed of the Gallery scrolling! The picture scroll is finally fast without lags! In more off 20 rom tested the Gallery was always bad!!!
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Have you guys noticed that oftentimes when you press the power button to wake the phone, the homescreen shows up for a split sec before the lockscreen?
Project butter is smooth for me ... can definatly see the higher frame rate.
But I really love Google now , already used it twice without setting anything , told me I needed to leave by 3:15 to get to my dark knight showing
And also gave me local bus times while I was waiting at a bus stop
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Have you guys noticed that oftentimes when you press the power button to wake the phone, the homescreen shows up for a split sec before the lockscreen?
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If I'm not mistaken, my G2 does the same thing if its a quick off and on action. The phone hasn't gone into a deep sleep just yet or something of the like. About Google Now. Its awesome and what the above poster said is pretty sweet. I personally like the new notification drawer look.
If knly Google now talked to you like siri
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If I'm not mistaken, my G2 does the same thing if its a quick off and on action. The phone hasn't gone into a deep sleep just yet or something of the like. About Google Now. Its awesome and what the above poster said is pretty sweet. I personally like the new notification drawer look.
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Is there any way to make Google Now use metric units in queries while still keeping US english as default language? For ex. I want to get height, distance etc results in meters, kilometers etc.. Why isn't everybody using the metric system!? Why?!
I've now found that when viewing and zooming in on a detailed picture in the gallery, it no longer as any issues with any compression artifacts, it's spot on now :good:
Also, the recent apps list pops up much quicker too.
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Also, the recent apps list pops up much quicker too.
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Hell yeah!
What's the default governor?
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Ondemand, as always.
Not interactive? Wow
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I've never had good luck with interactive on this phone, except for Bugless Beast Gingerbread. Ondemand is a good balance for performance and battery. You can see how the cpu works now from some apps like ROM Toolbox. Much more aggressive, but battery is the same for me, which is good.
Is anyone else noticing a slight jerkiness to scrolling/ movements in general on their N7s?
I'm on my 3rd model and havent noticed this on the previous 2 (although I didnt really look), but my current one has a clear jerkiness when swiping between pages/ homes screens/ scrolling up and down on all apps.
It is only really noticeable when I scroll or swipe very slowly, but there is a clear, albeit small, incremental and regular jump in the movement across all apps.
My 1st Gen ipod touch from 2008 is noticably smoother (still).
When I go slow on mine, it does jump, but that is expected. It probably has x points that is scrolls through, and when it goes slow it goes point by point. It doesn't really matter, usually you scroll normally.
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What about when you go to settings/developer options and check to enable Force 2D GPU rendering? Do you notice it getting better or worse?
Where you are having the home screen choppiness, if you're using the stock launcher try deleting the widget that's on the screen where you notice it the most and see if anything changes and let us know.
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Thanks
CharliesTheMan said:
What about when you go to settings/developer options and check to enable Force 2D GPU rendering? Do you notice it getting better or worse?
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that makes no difference.
CharliesTheMan said:
Where you are having the home screen choppiness, if you're using the stock launcher try deleting the widget that's on the screen where you notice it the most and see if anything changes and let us know.
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I removed all widgets, but again no difference. The jerkiness is across all apps - chrome, currents, ever note, etc and the home screen.
Can anyone define "lag"? Is it just the overall sluggishness? I ask only because I have flashed cm10.1 to my razr m, and after installing nova launcher and changing the animation speed, any of what I perceived as lag is gone.
What is "lag"?
jgramkow said:
Can anyone define "lag"? Is it just the overall sluggishness? I ask only because I have flashed cm10.1 to my razr m, and after installing nova launcher and changing the animation speed, any of what I perceived as lag is gone.
What is "lag"?
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well, basically it is the lagging of any action or animation. if you set the setting to the fastest on nova, lag will go away because the animation is going away. get the gist?
I consider lag to be the time it takes between a screen interaction (ie touching an icon) and the device reacting to your input. I consider other things to be choppy like if an app opens right when you press the button but the animation for it opening isn't smooth.
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Lag to me is device responsiveness to my input as well as responsiveness/smoothness of applications (ie switching screens and animations)
There's something wrong with Moto's drivers or kernel.. The phone basically feels like it locks up for 1-2 seconds when doing simple things like opening the web browser.. This system-on-chip setup is used in a variety of other Android phones and they don't have this issue.
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There's something wrong with Moto's drivers or kernel.. The phone basically feels like it locks up for 1-2 seconds when doing simple things like opening the web browser.. This system-on-chip setup is used in a variety of other Android phones and they don't have this issue.
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That probably would be the launcher. Not an issue in CM based ROMs
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There's something wrong with Moto's drivers or kernel.. The phone basically feels like it locks up for 1-2 seconds when doing simple things like opening the web browser.. This system-on-chip setup is used in a variety of other Android phones and they don't have this issue.
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I've noticed too on stock based roms
I read a couple of reviews saying that touchwiz stutters here and there on the Note 3. Can anyone who has the phone speak on this? Thanks!
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Where exactly is "here and there"? I would like to check that to answer your question better.
But i personally don't see any stutter or lag in touchwiz. The only thing i can remember that stutters badly, but very very badly, completely unusable, is the gallery. It's just terrible. Downloading the Gallery ICS from the store, and the thing flies.
I have the N-9005 version btw.
I haven't noticed any stuttering at all.
No lag but I want faster response time. Note 3 touch response time a bit faster than Note 2, slower than S4.
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Ive had it for a week now and filled it with apps with a 64gig microsd.
its smoooooooth . No lag at all.
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No lag but I want faster response time. Note 3 touch response time a bit faster than Note, slower than S4.
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i think the complete opposite, this reminds me of touch response on my 5s, I thought the s4 touch response was terrible.
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I haven't noticed any stuttering at all.
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^^ non so far either, i got like 5 apps on it and have been using it heavily all day.
Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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And I will say just opposite except for s4 part. Absolutely no lag in these 4 days of using Nothing to report...
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Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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I think it's acceptable then. As far as the home button lag it usually is because of S voice. Disable it and you should see a big improvement.
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Hendrickson said:
Gallery lags, get QuickPic instead. There is sometimes a stutter or screen touch response when hitting the home and apps button. Micro stutter almost. Browser sometimes has stutters.
I'm comparing to another Snapdragon device the G2 and touchwiz is not as smooth as LG's launcher and the G2 screen is more responsive to touches.
Its better than my S4's octalag out of the box. Thats for sure. But not 100% lag free unfortunately more like 97% lagfree. Close but no cigar
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I'm picking my phone up on Friday, but I heard the screen sensitivity can be adjusted in settings menu to increase response time for when ur wearing gloves. Try that and see if it helps?
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It's pretty smooth , only some frame drops in some apps and sometimes animations stutter.
I'm pretty "lag sensitive" and coming from an iPhone I have to say that it's probably one of the smoothest.
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Have it since 3 days (SM-N9005) and didn't noticed a lag, it didn't stutter at all and I hadn't a force close at all.
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I've rooted it now and uninstalled some s apps that caused lag it seems. I didn't need health, samsung apps etc etc. Much better now. Smooth now.
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I've rooted it now and uninstalled some s apps that caused lag it seems. I didn't need health, samsung apps etc etc. Much better now. Smooth now.
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do you have a tutorial to do this?
I have a stock Note 3, and swiping between homescreens is smooth. Lag (jank/hitches/stutter) occurs when scrolling in the browser (some sites perform better than others - but even the sites that perform poorly on the Note 3 perform great on iOS). Scrolling in the ScrapBook is not smooth - very janky/jittery. Same thing with Google Play (the main screen). Scroll and it jitters and stutters a lot. Even does strange screen refreshes at odd times. Scrolling HTML emails stutters (again, some scroll more smoothly than others, but most stutter).
It depends on how sensitive you are to jank.
I am bit disappointed overall. It's not as smooth as my s4, and my nexus 7 2013 is faster and smoother. For example, scrolling home screens is a bit jerky. Native apps can be a little slow to open, say when on the settings menu and making changes and it goes to a sub screen. Makes me realise what a great buy the N7 2ed is.
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I am bit disappointed overall. It's not as smooth as my s4, and my nexus 7 2013 is faster and smoother. For example, scrolling home screens is a bit jerky. Native apps can be a little slow to open, say when on the settings menu and making changes and it goes to a sub screen. Makes me realise what a great buy the N7 2ed is.
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No lag here n9005 .. no lag in the gallery.. in fact its the fastest gallery I ever seen
Had some occasional lag when I was on MI7 but everything is buttery smooth with the latest MJ7!
Man my phone was released a month ago. I expect lag/software glitches. Early adopters are always mass market beta testers. The hardware specs are proof that all lag is software related. Personally mine runs impressively smooth.
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No lag here n9005 .. no lag in the gallery.. in fact its the fastest gallery I ever seen
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That's interesting, because my Gallery is completely unusable. It's so slow and laggy i can't use it. I have installed a couple of 3rd party gallery and they are all much much faster (Quickpick and ICS Gallery).
How is this possible?!