Samsung Series 7 slate VS. Asus EP121 (at 50% price)? - Windows 8 General

The Samsung Series 7 is a few months newer, has better specs, thinner and lighter. But is $1200.
The Asus Eee EP121 is a year old, lower in specs. But it has a bigger screen, and I can get a refurbished one for $600.
For sure the Samsung slate is worth more, but is it 200% better?
I am leaning towards the Asus. The problem is, many nicer Windows 8 tablets are starting to come out in October, but I need it for classes in Sept. I am thinking, I could sell the Asus a few months from now to upgrade, probably at $300 (taking a loss of $300). But if I have a Samsung, I don't think I'll be able to sell it even at $900.
What are you thoughts? Which one will you get?

ikeny said:
The Samsung Series 7 is a few months newer, has better specs, thinner and lighter. But is $1200.
The Asus Eee EP121 is a year old, lower in specs. But it has a bigger screen, and I can get a refurbished one for $600.
For sure the Samsung slate is worth more, but is it 200% better?
I am leaning towards the Asus. The problem is, many nicer Windows 8 tablets are starting to come out in October, but I need it for classes in Sept. I am thinking, I could sell the Asus a few months from now to upgrade, probably at $300 (taking a loss of $300). But if I have a Samsung, I don't think I'll be able to sell it even at $900.
What are you thoughts? Which one will you get?
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If you have to choose, DON'T get the EP121. I tried both, and the Samsung is way better so I got one. If I were you, I would wait to see what devices OEMs would release for Windows 8.

I went with the Samsung too. You can find it cheaper than $1200.
The Samsung build quality is much better. It feels like a true iPad killer. The ASUS feels like a plastic kids toy. The specs on the Samsung are much better too. The only thing I don't like about the Samsung is the rear cam is only 3megapixel.
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GO samsung. The ep121 doens't have enough resolution to do snap. The samsung does. You will miss out on that feature with any tablet that does less then 1366x768.

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Galaxy Tab 7.7 on the way

Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
GaresTaylan said:
Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
Action B said:
Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
skeeterpro said:
Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
Kitten Mittens said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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charmartist said:
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.
Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.
Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!
I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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jollygoon said:
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it
I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.
I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.
I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.
So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7

Upset/intrigued by Series 5 Hybrid?

I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
nymviper1126 said:
I do not know what to make of the "sneek peak"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/27/samsung-series-5-teaser
Has S-Pen support and S-memo. Being that Windows can run Android apps, and the physical specs are just about the same, I dont know what to make of this.
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What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Thats what I am hoping for. But the specs say only 100gs heavier, same thickness. Mine is mostly for school and work, so it would make more sense to have a more productive device(s-pen is the reason we all love this tablet, isnt it?)
mitchellvii said:
It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
mitchellvii said:
What is upsetting? It will be heavy, run hot and cost a lot more.
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It also depends on what your weighting of various features are. Obviously running native MS Office and Outlook is a huge benefit as is SharePoint access and OneNote. At the end of the day it's still a Windows PC which, unless things change dramatically, aren't very good consumption devices. I replaced my HTPC with Google TV's for the simplicity and broader content support. If you use your tablet for consumption in the 30% and below range W8 is probably a better choice. I'm probably about 60% consumption 40% productivity and am fine with Android for now. And it's not like you have to buy a W8 Pro device on the day they come out or lose the opportunity. Having suffered through V1 of plenty of h/w and s/w there's something to be said for letting others go first. And here’s hoping that with the introduction of a Windows-based version of S-Note that Samsung comes up with a way of sharing what’s created with Android S-Note with Windows-PC’s.
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Excellent. More definitive insider info! What is the price going to be on it?
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People use common sense. If it is going to have an Intel CPU, a larger HD screen and pen input it is going to cost MUCH more. Those components aren't free.
If a tablet had the same components as a $1000 ultrabook and includes pen input it is going to cost what an ultrabook costs. It won't be $500.
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Be happy with what you got and when that bridge is there to be crossed in reality then decide to cross it or not. I love my note!
When you are driving your new BMW don't look at every Porsche that drives by costing $30k more and wring your hands saying, "Oh I should have gotten that for what I paid for this!"
Just enjoy your BMW.
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Well, I was peeking too, BUT I have to see it, feel it, touch it before I would consider a FULL Win8 Tab (NOT RT-version which does not have any benefit over Android).
It has to endure easily 12 hours like my N10.1 and has to perfom in the same smoothness and reliability.
I am an "early adopter" but with Win8 I have to read a lot of reports and see a lot of hardware tests before it convince me to buy a Win8-slate.
It is so much at the beginning, will be full of bugs and promises of added functionality in the FUTURE that I will wait for the official "Surface"-Tab and then compare to the Win8-Sammy-Tab and then maybe in one year decide upon a Win8-Tablet when "Surface 2" will be issued.
Yes, I love my Note i-717 and 10.1. i will be waiting for the livestreams that stat in 2.5 hrs for the Note 2.
I did use my note 10.1 in class yday9marketing) and the professor mention apple and he made me show the whole class the note and I explain how the patent messed up our S-Memo! I did copy the part of the sylabus where it states to write your preferend name, occupation and picture, then took one with my FFC and sent it to him during class. So yes I love it.
The car analogy is a good one. I have an 04 Q45 premium(had an 03 as well, RIP) and it still holds it own vs alot of newer cars. Do i sometimes desire a 7 series? yes, but i dont have 750Il money..Andi dont driver people around for a living(I have reclining rear seats). But i do use this device for my work email as well. It would be very impressive when i go to all the major banks during pricing etc and just whip out my Note and mark up the pdf that takes them forever to print, hand out, then revise to print out again. I would love to do some modeling in excel as well, Polaris seems a bit too clunky to do it seriously.
The thing is people like myself are the first to actually be productive with a device other than a BB. Its scary to those around who dont understand, and needs flawless execution or people wont see the point. My boss litterally was upset that i have my work email on my note, cuz they also gave me a BB. But im in a very small group that is testing out the system.
I will probally keep the note 10.1 and try and convice them to buy me the Series 5 for work. have to show its worth first though. Hopefully once the Wifi in the building is up, people will see a tablet can be much more than an iPad. Time will tell.
Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
shinzz said:
Well, this is the Windows 8 tablet that I will be purchasing.
With Clovertrail SoC (yes, it is Atom processor)... with faster + better GPU over ARM SoC atm (http://androidandme.com/2012/08/sma...e-fastest-android-phone-next-month-in-london/).... although, I have to see how S4 Pro looks like.... this should be a winner. The battery life should be on par with ARM counterparts (I doubt it will be better but it should compete in the department).
Keyboard + S-Pen (the same one as Galaxy Note 10.1).... this seems like a winner to me... out of all W8 tablets so far. Now.. the main question is the price... it won't be as cheap as ARM Android tablets but it shouldn't cost more than Ultrabooks with i5+ in it....
As for anything WinRT (unless Surface is released at the rumored $200 price)... it should be avoided at all cost when it launches.
Edit: Nvm.. they did announce the price... $649 for 64g SSD + 2gb RAM.... $749 with keyboard...
So, $50 cheaper than 64gb iPad.. & $100 more over 32gb Galaxy Note 10.1
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I may be returning the note and repurchasing until this comes out so i may still return if this is a better product. The width seems a bit much, but like i said, it seems to add MUCH more capability(you can run android on windows anyway) for $100 more? Why wouldnt I want to?
It never ends does it lol.
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It never ends does it lol.
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I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
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I just hope it runs like crap or has short battery life, somehting to make me NOT WANT IT. I do love the 10.1 after not charging for days and after 2 classes, was warning me to charge it. It still had 9 hrs left LOL
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Lol, expected to be on 9hr+ battery life on single charge. See how it goes once it gets released.....
Otherwise, FULL OS with x86..... & Galaxy Note 10.1 apps..... (and if you really think about it.. if Note 10.1 has 64gb.. it will only be $50 more...)
Only disappointment from IFA so far... lack of Samsung's A15 dual-core SoC. I was expecting Samsung's WinRT tab to be on A15 SoC.. but bleh.. it is on S4 dual-core. Not that I was going to purchase the A15 WinRT tab.... but... yea, was hoping to see that SoC to make a presence in some form of h/w.
There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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There is some serious potential here. If this has a port for an external monitor and other peripherals (aka laptop replacement), then I just might have to return my Note. That $700 price tag is gonna sting though, $1K if I get series 7 with 128GB.
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As far as I understand.. it does....
Also comes with USB 3.0 support I believe (at least on the keyboard dock.. i think)...
With $650 as the base price for 64gb SSD model ... I think we can expect other OEMs to release their W8 tablets around $550 to $600 range (don't think any of them will be priced higher over Samsung or Sony for that matter).... This is the price range I expected for the Clovertrail tablets & it's a great value. Now.. since none of us have one in hand.. we won't know how it will actually perform in the real world yet... but that's serious potential with great value.
As for WinRT tablets.... I should expect a $400 price range... but with W8 Clovertrail/Trinity tablets being around $550 to $650 range... & with very very limited ecosystem... I don't expect that to do well at all.
Btw, I don't think Series 7 or any other i5+ W8 tablets are worth the money. Cost too much... & for that.. to do serious work, you really need a bigger screen. Series 7 & other Intel i5+ tablets also have "fan" included with crap battery life (will weight just as much as ultrabook with keyboard dock).... not much benefit over Ultrabooks. Better to purchase Ultrabooks over i5+ W8 tablets.... W8 Ultrabooks will come in Touchscreen, Discrete GPU, much more storage... & can expand the RAM if needed (cheaper too).
I think the Series 5 throws a HUGE wrench into the works.
What's the point in a Note 10.1, when for a few dollars more I can have the same WACOM stylus input on a Windows machine that gets the same battery life and has 100% MS Office compatibility?
I purchased the Note 10.1 as an e-ink device, to go paperless. This device works, but I am always having to take extra steps to get documents synced to the cloud. I want an all-in-one solution that is seemless, integrated with MS Word, and doesn't cost $1k+.
What advantage does the Note 10.1 have over this new Series 5 other than a $150.00 cheaper pricepoint?
I hope the user experience isn't too terrible with the Atom CPU like it was with netbooks. Unless I specifically need x86 compatibility I'm not too excited about returning to the bloat, unreliability, poor user experience, relatively mediocre battery life, heat output, high maintenance, etc. of Windows. Plus, I use Google Voice for SMS and calls so the GN 10.1 is constantly running in low power with great battery life. My Thinkpad with 8-cell high capacity battery seems to drain a lot faster just being in hibernate doing absolutely nothing.
It sounds good, but I can guarantee the price will make it non-competitive with the Note 10.1. Same with the Surface tabs when they come, I can practically guarantee the Surface Pro (the only model that can really compete with the N8013) will be $700-1000.
I was strongly considering a Surface tablet before jumping on the Note 10.1 ship but I'm more than happy with the N8013, it does everything I need it to do and nothing more and nothing less. Anything more, I have my laptop. Anything less and I'd have just bought an iPad again.

On the fence about getting the new Note 10.1 2014 Edition

I am in love with this tablet. It checks on pretty much everything that I'm looking for. But one thing is holding me back from jumping the gun on October 10..... the price.
550 for a 16gb and 600 for a 32gb sounds like a no brainer. But I feel that it's a no small pocket change to drop on a tablet. I know the screen is crazy good and the s pen makes it head and shoulders over what's currently available. But I keep on trying to justify the reasoning for the 600 price tag.
I believe the thing that I keep going back to is the lack of tablet optimized apps for Android. Don't get me wrong, I've been pro android since the htc hd2, and I been through my share of samsung devices (got the note 2, 1st day it launched) . But I also had the original galaxy tab 10.1 and chose to get it early and paid the premium for it. Then it seemed within less than 4 months, the price dropped and continued to do so. And even though it was great for consuming videos and browsing the web I felt like the majority of the apps just didn't either scaled properly to the 10.1 form factor, or they weren't as polished as the iPad apps are.
I waited last week, to see what Microsoft was going to do with their newly redesigned surface pro 2, but it failed to excite me unlike the new 10.1 note is doing. If I could dual boot jellybean and windows on the surface pro 2, i'd probably look into that.
Maybe things have changed for the better on the tablet side for Android apps. But i ultimately ended up giving the tablet to my grandfather so he could Skype his grandkids and watch football. I just want to see what you guys's reasons were for being excited and early adopters and paying the premium price for early adoption.
Thx for reading the lengthy post,
Eddie
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Well for some, myself included, this is a luxury item and think the slight increase in price from last years model isn't that bad. For your money you would be buying the best tablet available (imo) and it will be quite the beast for your daily consumption, and it will also last for years. Its really a laptop without the keyboard that has much better battery life and is more portable in the scheme of things. I'm not a laptop person and rather a tablet for the things I want to do.Since Android is taking tablets serious these days its gotten and will be much better in the future since its proving to not be a niche item any longer. I'm really anxious to start seeing reviews in the next week or so in the meanwhile..... I guess you have some deciding to do and I just wanted to chime in.
I too am not a laptop person. I was taken back a little bit by the price when it was announced. I was hoping for the 32GB to be around $550. For me the extra $50 is ok for all the extras it comes with. But really what it boils down to is how much I use my current tablet.
My current tablet is the HP Touchpad with Cyanogenmod Android ICS installed. I am a desktop fanatic and was completely blown away by how much time I shifted from my desktop to the tablet. I am a news junkie and a Reddit.com reader so I get tons of use out of a device that is, in my opinion, perfectly set up for internet consumption.
All in all, I love the 10 inch tablet form factor and use it for hours every day so I feel the price is justified for me.
I really am liking the extra features that Samsung has added on top of Android, such as being able to run two apps side by side. After having the last two Transformers (Prime and Infinity) and having a ton of issues with their performance, this is will be the best premium tablet on the market, and that comes with a price. Sure you can get a laptop for that price, but if a tablet fits your needs better, it'll be hard to top this tablet. If you need to save some money, wait for the next Nexus device. If this tablet isnt in your budget, don't feel pressured to get the device. It is better to be straight financially than to stress over a luxury item.
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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i think even if the S-pen is bad, as long as that technology is in the tablet, you can use something like the bamboo FEEL by wacom to supplement the S-pen usage
This a premium product, it's going to be priced accordingly. I was honestly expecting $700, it's coming in under my expectations. This is a steal at this price.
No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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Remember this has a card slot. You can buy a 16GB SD card for $10 so effectively you can get 32GB for 560. Not a bad deal when you consider the screen and CPU/GPU which are top-class and of course the S-pen.
Ultimately it all hinges on the S-pen. If that is useful to you I think this is an easy buy. If not you should probably look elsewhere, either the Nexus 10 or the iPad 4 .
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Just make sure you get a microSD card, as the note, and most phones and tablets in general, only have a microSD slot, not a full SD card slot.
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No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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I think that is a little high priced by mabe $50 bucks. I have owned dozens of android tablets since version 1.5 and I have a nexus 7 2013 edition. I am looking forward to this one would have liked at least 64gb. I also have an ipad 4 that is the 128gb version it was $799 plus $99 insurance plus $40 case plus tax = about a grand. I love the apps on ios but i know you can do more on android. I would like to see android tablet apps like iOS apps and 128gb and up android tablets to be able to install lots of apps on as apps are only instalable on internal memory. I know I overpaid for my ipad but I don't think the price would be far off with a comparable memory spec android tablet.
Thats why there are different specifications and different price points... To serve the masses..
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No way am I paying 600$ for a tablet. This is just ridiculous. what are they thiniking
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if you dont use the spen much id recommend something like the lg tablet coming out. Great size and specs with way less cost. Lots of tablets to fit almost any price range exist.
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if you dont use the spen much id recommend something like the lg tablet coming out. Great size and specs with way less cost. Lots of tablets to fit almost any price range exist.
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I need something with no less than 9 inch screen size and 250 ppi resolution. any suggestions?
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I need something with no less than 9 inch screen size and 250 ppi resolution. any suggestions?
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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At the rate ASUS is going they will not be releasing the new infinity until 2014. Joking aside....I hear rumors its pushed back to mid-November though...something must be wrong. I'm not going to wait any longer for ASUS.
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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Where did you get price info for the tf701?? Because the tf700, at least at launch, was priced on par with the note 10, and that price didn't include the keyboard **** either, which case about $150 or so more.
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Where did you get price info for the tf701?? Because the tf700, at least at launch, was priced on par with the note 10, and that price didn't include the keyboard **** either, which case about $150 or so more.
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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I have not heard pricing myself, didn't think pricing or availability had been said yet, at least not in any of the major news outlets or Asus website.
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The lg g pad should be released soon and has an 8.9 inch screen, sd 600, and magnificent screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The new kindle is also 8.9 inch screen, sd 800, awesome screen and ppi, and much cheaper. The coming nexus 10 will have great specs and a 10 inch screen and will be cheaper. The tf701 infinity will be out soon and has a 10 inch screen, tegra 4 a d gorgeous screen res and ppi and will be cheaper. Those are the most popular. There are others you can google.
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Thanks.I'm already considering the new kindle fire.
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I was researching and following the new Transformer tf701 for a bit and I think the consensus was that it would be $399 for just the tablet and $499 with dock for the base model but I'm not 100% on that and I think its unofficial...I could be wrong though
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this price is on par for what i paid for my TF700 tho, so i'd believe it.

What do you think of Samsung's new tablets ?

Samsung just released their new tablets that 8 inch looks interesting to me depends on price however. How does it compare to gpad for you ?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-series-2014/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-lineup-revealed/
Makes me question my gpad purchase but for the specs it might cost a lot more.
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Samsung just released their new tablets that 8 inch looks interesting to me depends on price however. How does it compare to gpad for you ?
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-series-2014/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-lineup-revealed/
Makes me question my gpad purchase but for the specs it might cost a lot more.
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I'm still happy with my purchase and the deal I got on it ($259 USD via Newegg). The Samsung Pro 8.4 is the only one that makes me blink. Faster chip, good. Marginally larger battery to deal with the screen, bad. Touchwiz, higher resolution screen, meh. The G Pad, for its meager shortcomings, offers a heckuva lot of bang for the buck, at the price I got it anyway. Not regretting it!
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I'm still happy with my purchase and the deal I got on it ($259 USD via Newegg). The Samsung Pro 8.4 is the only one that makes me blink. Faster chip, good. Marginally larger battery to deal with the screen, bad. Touchwiz, higher resolution screen, meh. The G Pad, for its meager shortcomings, offers a heckuva lot of bang for the buck, at the price I got it anyway. Not regretting it!
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Lol yeah I missed that deal I live in New jersey so payed tax $300 so if it's around $300 -$350 I would be all for it lol. My gpad comes tomorrow so well see I guess. It should have pretty good development support and accessories.
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I feel the same. The 8.4 inch display model is pretty sweet.. Pricing may be a bit higher, so again.. I wouldn't buy it just cause of that. And the 3 hardware buttons on the front is a no go. It's old and I don't like it as much as having a blank screen where it's just me and the screen/movie/book.. The over all design looks good ol' fashion Samsung. Looks sturdy and has kindof a Galaxy S2 feel to it. The S2 was the best mobile phone I've ever had. Damn a lot of stuff happened back then. But yeah, looks like a decent tablet. But I think I'll be quite happy with the G Pad still, since it does have what I'm looking for in a nice, cheap package and decent build quality.

			
				
The Samsung Exynos 5 Octa CPU is a new gen processor which samsung tries to make it use all eight cores at once. If a tablet with that chip comes out it will surely be very powerful and definitely better than gpad.
As long as Samsung uses a home button i will never buy again.I'm very happy with the pad.
The new Touch Wiz looks really awful. I don't even know what they're thinking. It's like they want it to work and look like Windows 8 but don't want to use Windows 8. Personally I wouldn't touch the new tabs with a 10 foot pole.
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The new Touch Wiz looks really awful. I don't even know what they're thinking. It's like they want it to work and look like Windows 8 but don't want to use Windows 8. Personally I wouldn't touch the new tabs with a 10 foot pole.
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They can't help them self's.They always need to add a little from other oem's
I am an owner of note 10.1 2012 ..... I am looking up to
Change my tab as there is no updates for it at all ... Till now it is on version 4.1.2 and it is 100% guaranteed now after these pro tablets unveiled there will be no updates for the older devices ... I wont buy any of these new pro tablets because of the price firstly and in the future they will be thrown to the dust like my note 10.1 now ..... Also i am thinking of getting lg g pad 8.3 but no software updates like my current note and lack of dev support keeps me away
I'd be very surprised if the 8.4 was less than $399. I'm sure Samsung considers it to be fully equivalent to the newest iPad mini. Samsung used to compete on price but no more. When I bought my first plasma TV in 2007 Samsung was a much better deal than Panasonic or Pioneer. When it came time to buy another one last year I thought Samsung was too expensive and bought an LG I'm very happy with.
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If they're "too perfect to root", no thanks.
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Quite simply, I am going to switch to a Tab Pro 8.4 as soon as it is available.
It has a way better display, it has NFC (which I miss), it's way more powerful (G Pad is pretty slow), it has a polycarbonate back (I dislike the faux leather, I would much rather have a rubber back like the Nexus 7 2013 or the old Samsung HyperGlaze but anything is WAY, WAY better than effing METAL!!!!) and the Samsung one is the best version of Android around (MultiWindow *alone* would do it for me).
I can't wait to get my hands on it.
P.S. Actually, the ONLY reason I am interested in mid-sized tablets (8"/8.5") is WEIGHT.
Anything beyond 350/400 grams is simply too heavy to be ergonomic and truly comfortable for extended use.
The new Samsung Tab Pro 10.1" is 469grams and I am planning on trying it out with the intention of switching back to a 10.1"...
Ideally, my perfect tablet would be something like the Note Pro 12.2" but would weigh no more than 400 grams with an all-day battery life... (which is, of course, not technically possible. YET).
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Quite simply, I am going to switch to a Tab Pro 8.4 as soon as it is available.
It has a way better display, it has NFC (which I miss), it's way more powerful (G Pad is pretty slow), it has a polycarbonate back (I dislike the faux leather, I would much rather have a rubber back like the Nexus 7 2013 or the old Samsung HyperGlaze but anything is WAY, WAY better than effing METAL!!!!) and the Samsung one is the best version of Android around (MultiWindow *alone* would do it for me).
I can't wait to get my hands on it.
P.S. Actually, the ONLY reason I am interested in mid-sized tablets (8"/8.5") is WEIGHT.
Anything beyond 350/400 grams is simply too heavy to be ergonomic and truly comfortable for extended use.
The new Samsung Tab Pro 10.1" is 469grams and I am planning on trying it out with the intention of switching back to a 10.1"...
Ideally, my perfect tablet would be something like the Note Pro 12.2" but would weigh no more than 400 grams with an all-day battery life... (which is, of course, not technically possible. YET).
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Pretty Slow? Try CM 11, Stock is slow. Switching from G Pad to Notepro 8.4 seems useless to me.
I am sort of disappointed that the G Pad is no longer the best 8 incher but it's still pretty great so its fine...
I doubt I will bite. I like my LG 8.3 GPE a lot. Samsung does this to me every year: announce something that captures my imagination, I'm intrigued, I convince myself it will be at a palatable price point, and then finally delivers something I consider too expensive and doesn't hit the sweet spot for my tastes.
I do own a Galaxy Note 10.1, and I love it. But the 2014 edition left me a bit cold.
I doubt I will dip into these waters again, probably just upgrading to a new Nexus 10 when the timing feels right.
I'm very happy with my G Pad and won't switch. If the Samsung 8.4 was available a couple of weeks ago at a competitive price I would have taken it, simply due to previous experience with both LG and Samsung phones. I like the idea of hard buttons on the bezel - means more screen space. There will also be more development on the Samsung tablets.
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Pretty Slow? Try CM 11, Stock is slow.
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The G Pad with CM11 or the G Pad GPE are surely faster but you would have to give up, among other things, Knock On, the IR Remote and full SDcard support and those are huge deal breakers for me.
True, LG's ROM is most certainly slower and laggier than stock Android but it's also way more feature complete (which is probably also *why* is slower...). Features that I do use.
Besides the ones just mentioned, there are dozens of things like Quickmemo, the overlay apps (QSlide), the keyboard with the numbers row, the volume and brightness sliders and on and on...
Switching from G Pad to Notepro 8.4 seems useless to me.
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As I said: way better display, NFC, way more powerful (while being even more feature rich), polycarbonate back, Samsung SW (MultiWindow above all).
I also forgot to mention that notwithstanding pretty much identical size and weight, the display is sensibly bigger on the Tab Pro as it's not only 0.1" physically bigger but it also doesn't have virtual buttons taking up screen real estate.
So, far from "useless"... The money I will lose selling the G Pad and buying the Tab Pro is really a very small price to pay for such a big upgrade.
P.S. I am not dissing my G Pad, still like it a lot and still think it's the overall best mid-size tablet on the market right now.
I have no intentions of switching as i really love this lg. I also suspect that these new Pro models will not be cheap. For my uses the lg is plenty fast and smooth. And since a tablet is just entertainment for me, there is only so much any tablet is worth and i bet these new Samsung tablets will exceed that price.
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What Rom will it come with? I've learned to only buy with Qualcomm cpus because they get the best long-term support. There's a chance that the Qualcomm ones are only for lte support....
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The G Pad with CM11 or the G Pad GPE are surely faster but you would have to give up, among other things, Knock On, the IR Remote and full SDcard support and those are huge deal breakers for me.
True, LG's ROM is most certainly slower and laggier than stock Android but it's also way more feature complete (which is probably also *why* is slower...). Features that I do use.
Besides the ones just mentioned, there are dozens of things like Quickmemo, the overlay apps (QSlide), the keyboard with the numbers row, the volume and brightness sliders and on and on...
As I said: way better display, NFC, way more powerful (while being even more feature rich), polycarbonate back, Samsung SW (MultiWindow above all).
I also forgot to mention that notwithstanding pretty much identical size and weight, the display is sensibly bigger on the Tab Pro as it's not only 0.1" physically bigger but it also doesn't have virtual buttons taking up screen real estate.
So, far from "useless"... The money I will lose selling the G Pad and buying the Tab Pro is really a very small price to pay for such a big upgrade.
P.S. I am not dissing my G Pad, still like it a lot and still think it's the overall best mid-size tablet on the market right now.
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Great to hear you're not dissinf the G Pad!
You said switching to a notepro 8.4 would be a small price to pay, but you have no idea how much its going to cost. I bet at least 400.
BTW, knock on works just fine on CM 11. IR support is missing, haven't tried a SD card. Is it not going to work? Oh, and be sure the new bloated "pro" touchwiz will be slower than the lg rom.

Samsung likely to reveal Snapdragon 835 powered Galaxy Tab S4 at MWC

https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-likely-to-reveal-snapdragon-835-powered-galaxy-tab-s4-at-mwc
This is to soon idk why Samsung didn't wait till fall or next Spring and make it with a 845, The S3 is only a year old. I guess this is for people who have a older tablet like the original S or maybe S2. I don't see a reason to upgrade even if i had the money too, i replaced my Nexus 9 with the S3 and i love it. Don't get me wrong i thought i'd never replace my N9 but it had its faults like freezing/locking up and it lagged, screen had a slight case of pulsating light from the screen. All of which don't exist with my new S3 not to mention double the Ram and updated CPU.
I think they're more likely to introduce a replacement for the Tab A. The Tab S3 wasn't so much of a hit that they would feel the need to follow up on it so soon. AT&T didn't even have a version of the LTE, and no major retailer stocked the 825. I had to buy the verizon 827 and change the network settings.
If the leak is correct (always big IF), looks like it could be an upgrade for the original Tab S (10.5" and 16:10 ratio). In that case, I've got no buyers' remorse with the Tab S3. I very much prefer the 4:3 factor over my old Tab S. A 4:3 10.5" Tab S4 though would probably and shamelessly lead me to upgrade...
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If the leak is correct (always big IF), looks like it could be an upgrade for the original Tab S (10.5" and 16:10 ratio). In that case, I've got no buyers' remorse with the Tab S3. I very much prefer the 4:3 factor over my old Tab S. A 4:3 10.5" Tab S4 though would probably and shamelessly lead me to upgrade...
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Agree i much prefer the 4:3 ratio on a tablet.
Nope, no new tablets
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Nope, no new tablets
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Better to have no new tablets than a disaster like the S3...
Anyway the speculation is that all android OEMs are going to launch devices once Chrome OS for tablets gets announced.
Typically in the past, one or two months before a new tablet is announced full specs and pics have already leaked. This means that it's unlikely that the Tab S4 is announced before that happens.
After 12 months my contract with isp will end and i will get s4 or s5 if it get out at that time. Right now my s3 rock my world!
$600 will be a tough sell when the iPad is $399
coming soon!
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/05/02/galaxy-tab-s4-release-may-not-be-that-far-off/
they still couldnt resolve the issue of S Note and the disaster that's Samsung Notes. They created a writing capable Note and made it a disaster! & they want to launch a new 1 with the same issue <eyesroll>
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they still couldnt resolve the issue of S Note and the disaster that's Samsung Notes. They created a writing capable Note and made it a disaster! & they want to launch a new 1 with the same issue <eyesroll>
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lol true
but i wish they would release Sammy would release it quick, just the same.
really coming soon!
"As release nears, Samsung's Galaxy Tab S4 gets certified in Russia"
https://www.gsmarena.com/as_release...ab_s4_gets_certified_in_russia-news-31046.php
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coming soon!
https://www.sammobile.com/2018/05/02/galaxy-tab-s4-release-may-not-be-that-far-off/
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Yes, I think that this is a safe bet. My guess, it is going to be some time in the summer. The specs look good
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Yes, I think that this is a safe bet. My guess, it is going to be some time in the summer. The specs look good
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as an upgrade to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, definitely. looking forward to an AMOLED screen at that resolution, plus improved S-Pen. just hope Samsung doesn't screw the pooch.
the OTHER thing i'm hoping for though? maybe Samsung pulls an Acer, and makes the Tab S4 with ChromeOS.
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as an upgrade to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014, definitely. looking forward to an AMOLED screen at that resolution, plus improved S-Pen. just hope Samsung doesn't screw the pooch.
the OTHER thing i'm hoping for though? maybe Samsung pulls an Acer, and makes the Tab S4 with ChromeOS.
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Well, there is also Huawei's MediaPad M5 10 Pro, with the M-pen. This comes with a nice keyboard cover as well. Thus, Samsung is going to have some competition in Android Tablets supporting pens.
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Well, there is also Huawei's MediaPad M5 10 Pro, with the M-pen. This comes with a nice keyboard cover as well. Thus, Samsung is going to have some competition in Android Tablets supporting pens.
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agreed. one thing i saw in a review: the PRO version has a slightly blurrier screen vs the non-pro. something to do with the extra layer for Pen sensitivity.
thing is right now if you need an high-end Android tablet, you're kind of in limbo between the S4, whenever that is; the S3, which has a processor that is looking less appealing with each passing month; and Huawei M5 Pro, which was announced two months ago or something, but still can't be bought in Canada/US (outside of eBay).
that said, the Tab S3 keeps fluctuating in price, with Samsung floating the $100 instant rebate every other month it seems. can get the S3 again for $450 USD from B&H right now. drop it another $50, throw in the keyboard case, and i'm in.
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agreed. one thing i saw in a review: the PRO version has a slightly blurrier screen vs the non-pro. something to do with the extra layer for Pen sensitivity.
thing is right now if you need an high-end Android tablet, you're kind of in limbo between the S4, whenever that is; the S3, which has a processor that is looking less appealing with each passing month; and Huawei M5 Pro, which was announced two months ago or something, but still can't be bought in Canada/US (outside of eBay).
that said, the Tab S3 keeps fluctuating in price, with Samsung floating the $100 instant rebate every other month it seems. can get the S3 again for $450 USD from B&H right now. drop it another $50, throw in the keyboard case, and i'm in.
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I have the Tab S3 and it is an excellent tablet. Most of the issues there are ones of software, not hardware, although some elements of the Samsung Experience should have been better to allow for better multitasking. In addition, if the tablet was somewhat longer (10.8 inches, for example), it would have allowed the keyboard to be more spacious. The keyboard badly needs an "Escape" key, which it does not have. Yes, this tablet could have used a faster processor, that's for sure.
My Note 10 holds a charge for about 15 minutes. Not really worth a new battery, and I want an LTE radio. The S3 is getting old at this point, and Samsung support for it is probably about at an end. I at least want a chance at getting Android Praline. I gifted my mother an iPad, and it was nice, but I am entirely in the Google ecosystem.
I just wish they would make a clean system with S-pen capabilities on top. Based on my experience with the Note 10, I have never bought a Samsung phone. I can live with the junk piled up in a tablet, but not on a phone.

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