Advantages of rooting N7? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks. I have a Galaxy Note in addition to my newly received N7.
Rooting my note has been very useful, in particular when it comes to flashing custom rims not filled with Samsung bloat. Other than that, I have found few advantages for rooting (except for tinkering a d troubleshooting). As to the N7,so far it seems very solid and I am pleased with stock performance and Google search more frequent updates.
Aside from being able to create nandroid backups, and flash custom roms, what are some other advantages I would get from rooting?
Thanks for your opinions!
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New recovery let's you use new roms. I really like paranoid android personally. File browsers with root settings, sound boosters and equalizers, stuff like that.
The nexus 7 is very capable without being rooted.
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Well there are plenty of advantages, it's just a case of whether you need or want them.
I rooted for only 2 reasons:
1. So I can set it to rotate on the home screen without having to use an alternate launcher.
2. So I can install apps I wouldn't be able to, such as those marked as incompatible or the stock jelly bean browser.

shaneydroid said:
Well there are plenty of advantages, it's just a case of whether you need or want them.
I rooted for only 2 reasons:
1. So I can set it to rotate on the home screen without having to use an alternate launcher.
2. So I can install apps I wouldn't be able to, such as those marked as incompatible or the stock jelly bean browser.
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how did you accomplish #1? mine is rooted with the stock ROM.

HKSpeed said:
how did you accomplish #1? mine is rooted with the stock ROM.
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Using the info in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800042

I'm using the latest beta of apex launcher pro which permits autorotate. I know you want to stay with the stock launcher but apex is running very smooth for me and also permits gestures.
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best rom for nexus 7?

just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
Ive been using Paul Obriens Jr# ROMs. theyre just tweaked stock ROMs, but I have never had a single issue so far and with every release there are new features without any new bugs. which is always nice.
randroid123 said:
The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
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2nd'd
BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
Running skanky cm10 nightlies. Very stable, very happy
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BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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It ships with stock so run stock for a few weeks to establish a baseline for stability and speed before you go experimenting.
I would wait a couple months. Stock nexus 7 runs great. Just unlock and root it. After a couple months Roms will start to mature and you will also see which ones seem to be leading, me personally, I love to flash. But I, very happy with stock and nova launcher. There are some things I would like from full tablet ui. But every ROM is promising the world. Just waiting to see which ones take the lead.
So just wait for now. no rush, do you hate stock that much?
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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Have tried just about all the popular ones out as of yet, favorite so far has to be TeamEOS' nightlies. Very stable, UI works great, launcher rotation, and has the ICS style status bar, which I prefer.
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I se quick boot - lets me soft boot into recovery - no messing around with USB cables
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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I've been using the Pure AOSP rom, I used the stock for a couple of days and then switched, never looked back. There aren't a lot of differences between stock and the Pure AOSP, but the AOSP rom provides a cleaner starting point and the camera works by default.
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I'm currently running stock, I just rooted and unlocked so I'm set whenever the stable full roms start kicking in. No need to rush it, just stick with stock for now
SoHaunted said:
How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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I keep trying new ones in hopes that it will somehow get even better, but keep returning to stock.
Nothing is as smooth.
Currently running stock, rooted, deodexed. With the tabletUI mod. Nova launcher. awesome.
I'm running BAMF Paradigm. It's absolutely an amazing blend of custom features that offer visual and performance related options to really make it your tablet, I'm very happy with it, I've run several others also. DEFINITELY recommend Motley's kernel, it's one of the things I love most about the nexus 7. Also Aaronpoweruser's (sp) cookies and cream rom ran really good for me.
Just go for a different kernel rather than ROM, I tried out Trinity today (only got the 7 yesterday) and I find its quite slick..
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lindenhurst said:
I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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Hundred percent agree. I have Paranoid Android on there just for the Tablet UI changes. I have found that Kernel Improvements do help drastically.
plain old pure aosp. its clean and fast, with the trinity kernel at least
Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
oscarinexus7 said:
I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
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I've also found that Glazed is the only ROM of the one's that I've tried so far that let's me use Amazon Instant Video from the Amazon web site.

[POLL] Stock vs tablet workspace

I would like to start this to see how many people use tablet workspace since it seems only a few roms seem to be embracing this. Please state what rom you are using and what you use to trigger tablet mode.
I am using PA 2.1.1 with small tab ui
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Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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PA 2.1 tablet ui (mid).
Don't like roms that shrink the nav bar too much either!
E_Goldstein said:
Stock rom rooted, rom toolbox to change my dpi, loving tablet mode just like paranoid on my phone
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I'm using tablet ui, liking it a lot
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Stock, rooted 4.1.1 here.
Used the local.prop DPI setting to get it into tablet mode and use the app "Set Orientation" to force the last remains (like lockscreen) into landscape for total tablet experience to my likes
Also I'm using GoLauncherEx, which works fine for me landscaped.
Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks. IMHO only sgt7 and PA are the only seamless roms that do this well. PA also lets you choose the navbar height independently.
Personally I would never run phabletUI on my tablet. That sounds funny
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PA 2.1 Phablet mode!!
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xopher.hunter said:
Alot of you are using a depreciated method of forcing tabUI by using dpi hacks.
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I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine
Running PA 2.1 full tablet and loving it.
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HellcatDroid said:
I wouldn't call it "depricated", I'd call it "the savest and most less intrusive way".
I don't want to flash a different ROM and I don't have to edit any system files - #1 way of doing it for me. And it works just fine
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It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
Of course I could have messed something up and yours could be fine.
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xopher.hunter said:
It may seem like its working fine but when I did it that way many apps were gone from my market (google play music, wallet off the top of my head) and the copy/paste bar was nowhere to be found when editing text.
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About the apps, maybe I just got lucky so far and the ones I use on my N/ don't set the compatibility stuff in the way that makes them appear to be incompatible with the N7.
About the copy/paste bar, I just tried and yes, it's "gone" like you say.
But I use GoKeyboard and that has copy/paste buttons as well, so I can live with that for now

Help needed: Looking for a rom

Hey All,
I'm looking for a rom and having trouble figuring out which one will best suit my needs. Typically, I would just download a bunch of roms and try them out, but I'm stuck in China with a low data ceiling on a very slow connection for the foreseeable future. I really need to be like 80% sure before I download.
I've been running CleanRom since the summer, and that has been a great experience, but CleanRom is no longer being developed, so I'm no longer up to date.
I want something with integrated tablet mode, and I would like something with a volume slider in the notification tray. Wifi toggle switch would also be ideal (I prefer not to use apps for these features). Aside from those features, I just need the most stable rom possible. Additional customization isn't necessary. In fact, pure stock outside of the features I listed would be great. And I'm obviously not looking for nightly builds. I want something to throw on here and leave on until the next Android update.
Does anyone know a rom that meets this criteria? If you have suggestions, I would love to hear them, and then I'll go read some threads.
I really appreciate the help.
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Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
sahshah said:
Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
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I was just flipping through that thread to see what people were saying. I appreciate the suggestion.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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ejchis said:
Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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You want a solid rom? Team EOS is going to be your best bet. Very minimal isnt loaded with a bunch of crap you wont use. Has its own toggles however are kind of an eyesore IMO. You could just use an app to do the same thing i recommend "Extended Controls" Its a dollar.. but well worth it. LOL reread your OP oops.. :S
Also if you have the pull down.. and swipe in the middle to either the right or the left.. it will swap the Date and clock to a volume slider on the left and a brightness slider on the right .
The only problem I've had with this rom is the oft mentioned error about invalid glazed 2.0 init.. and it's more of a minor nuisance than anything. Functionality does not seem to have a problem, and I'm sure the message has something to do with Glazed being based on a CM nightly.. a bad integer table entry perhaps. Either way, my overall experience has been great with this setup.. buttery fast, and buttery smooth.
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Thanks for getting back to me on that. I've got a list of three I'm investigating. Trying out this CM10 kang first.
I've had very good luck with cm10. I've tried a few others but keep coming back to cyanogenmod. It's stable and has the features I want. On my Tablet I have many of them turned off, but it's nice for my phone. I
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Is there going to be a update for the lag?

Is there going to be a Samsung update or firmware update for the lag that's been going on a lot ? I don't wanna root for the lag to stop I like being on stock.
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shaqqq said:
Is there going to be a Samsung update or firmware update for the lag that's been going on a lot ? I don't wanna root for the lag to stop I like being on stock.
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Some updates will help with lag but honestly don't get your hopes up :/
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shaqqq said:
Is there going to be a Samsung update or firmware update for the lag that's been going on a lot ? I don't wanna root for the lag to stop I like being on stock.
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You can root stock... and still be stock. Root refers to the user account it uses and permissions only.
rkennison said:
You can root stock... and still be stock. Root refers to the user account it uses and permissions only.
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Yea I know but when I said root I meant like I don't want to put a custom rom or anything like that. If I just root it is there anything I can so it stop the lag?
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@shaqqq i installed nova launcher and it solved my problems with at least the home screen lag, and it gives you a touch of AOSP, personally i love AOSP.
i too have noticed significant lag compared to my note 2, when on stock. perhaps rooting and removing bloatware might help, but i ROM'd just for that reason (cleanrom+xposed)
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Is there going to be a Samsung update or firmware update for the lag that's been going on a lot ? I don't wanna root for the lag to stop I like being on stock.
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I don't know if you have read the tons of suggestions to reduce or get rid of the "lag", but here it's a summary:
1-) Activate Developers options and then set to off all the animations options
2-) Freeze/Disable the AT&T and/or Samsung Bloatware
3-) Remove the option to activate the S Voice by double clicking the Home Button, go to options on S Voice and you will see it there.
4-) If you have the Default Weather Widget, get rid of it or at least set the options to not update all the time.
5-) if you have downloaded Swiftkey, people seem to have issues with it and Weather widget combined. try using Swype (already on your phone) or Google Keyboard that was updated on the Playstore and now most can have it for free.
Maybe there are a couple of other suggestions, but the last ones, 4 and 5, seem to have affected the most. I haven't had any lag but can't say that there is no lag, as there are a lot of people that seem to have it, so it seems that it maybe some productions issues if that's the case, that is affecting some, while others don;t have it.
Custom roms would be the only way to limit the lag, as most of the devs have pretty much put a stop to it. If you stay stock you will have to wait a LONG time until they release their slow ass updates.
I am running WanamLite with NO lag so far. The above post is about all your going to get running stock.
erasat said:
I don't know if you have read the tons of suggestions to reduce or get rid of the "lag", but here it's a summary:
1-) Activate Developers options and then set to off all the animations options
2-) Freeze/Disable the AT&T and/or Samsung Bloatware
3-) Remove the option to activate the S Voice by double clicking the Home Button, go to options on S Voice and you will see it there.
4-) If you have the Default Weather Widget, get rid of it or at least set the options to not update all the time.
5-) if you have downloaded Swiftkey, people seem to have issues with it and Weather widget combined. try using Swype (already on your phone) or Google Keyboard that was updated on the Playstore and now most can have it for free.
Maybe there are a couple of other suggestions, but the last ones, 4 and 5, seem to have affected the most. I haven't had any lag but can't say that there is no lag, as there are a lot of people that seem to have it, so it seems that it maybe some productions issues if that's the case, that is affecting some, while others don;t have it.
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I did all those steps I noticed less lag but still lag though but it did help.
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TheAxman said:
Custom roms would be the only way to limit the lag, as most of the devs have pretty much put a stop to it. If you stay stock you will have to wait a LONG time until they release their slow ass updates.
I am running WanamLite with NO lag so far. The above post is about all your going to get running stock.
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I wanna root and put custom Rom on it but I'm not good at doing it on the Galaxy S4 I don't wanna mess up my phone
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shaqqq said:
I wanna root and put custom Rom on it but I'm not good at doing it on the Galaxy S4 I don't wanna mess up my phone
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Its really not bad . read read , read again Lol , root , recovery , backup, learn about Loki patch , DL Loki doki , (or make it easy and use cwm auto Loki) once you have that and are comfortable , DL ROM , gapps if any, kernel if you want a different one ,
Cwm
Flash ROM , gapps if any, kernel.
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Flash ROM , gapps if any , kernel, Loki doki.

Is stock good enough for you?

Hey N4 users, how many of you are satisfied with stock 4.3?
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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babalonius508 said:
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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:good:
Flashed many roms ,tried about 6-7 roms and I realized that stock is good enough for me. I'm using battery % mod + advanced reboot ,it's enough.
I really enjoy with 4.3 stock rom.
Never was.
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Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
AndroidKills said:
Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
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I use an app called fullscreen, and stock rom is fine after a few personalisation tweaks (playing with MUIU theme icons currently). Oh yeah..Pie Control App, Power Toggles, etc...apps really can extend usefulness like roms do, just have to hunt for them.
I need the long press navbar action, and better toggles.
Instead of flashing different mod a custom Rom is much easier.
Not for me. I like the extras, changes under the hood, ect the custom ROMs bring.
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Yes. I've run stock on my phones since the Galaxy Nexus was released. I don't have the desire to do the custom ROM song and dance when stock does everything I want it to do.
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I'm very satisfied with stock! The only issue is I wish with the default launcher you could change the pages, that's my only complaint... I wish I didn't have to use apex on top of default...
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Generally speaking I would say yes, stock is great, but there are aspects to using something like Paranoid Android (lubz me some PIE) as well as CyanogenMod (volume rockers to change songs is something I simply cannot live without these days), so generally I will use a device for a period of time when it's new to my ownership stock, then do the research and find a custom ROM to try out, then another if needed, then tweaks (custom kernels, undervolting, etc).
Same old same old as everyone else for the most part I suppose.
i had mine for 9 months before i decided to try a custom ROM...
The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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I completely agree. My previous phone was a SGS2 and I flashed a new ROM the day I got mine. My N4 however I have decided to keep stock since 4.3 was released and so far I have been pleased.
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Custom ROMs are significantly and noticeably faster and more responsive. Besides on stock lte is broken...
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after i unwrapped it, my phone was stock long enough to download a custom rom. kinda like when you first installed windows and you use IE long enough to download chrome or firefox. same idea
I'm on stock right now
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On stock ROM now and while I do miss the volume rocker buttons and expanded lockscreen on custom roms, I am also happy without it.
I've been waiting for CM 10.2 Stable...so I guess that answers that.
Stock... No need for custom Roms anymore. Hell even the stock kernel is good now.
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