Is stock good enough for you? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey N4 users, how many of you are satisfied with stock 4.3?

I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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babalonius508 said:
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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Flashed many roms ,tried about 6-7 roms and I realized that stock is good enough for me. I'm using battery % mod + advanced reboot ,it's enough.
I really enjoy with 4.3 stock rom.

Never was.
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Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.

AndroidKills said:
Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
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I use an app called fullscreen, and stock rom is fine after a few personalisation tweaks (playing with MUIU theme icons currently). Oh yeah..Pie Control App, Power Toggles, etc...apps really can extend usefulness like roms do, just have to hunt for them.

I need the long press navbar action, and better toggles.
Instead of flashing different mod a custom Rom is much easier.

Not for me. I like the extras, changes under the hood, ect the custom ROMs bring.
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Yes. I've run stock on my phones since the Galaxy Nexus was released. I don't have the desire to do the custom ROM song and dance when stock does everything I want it to do.
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I'm very satisfied with stock! The only issue is I wish with the default launcher you could change the pages, that's my only complaint... I wish I didn't have to use apex on top of default...
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Generally speaking I would say yes, stock is great, but there are aspects to using something like Paranoid Android (lubz me some PIE) as well as CyanogenMod (volume rockers to change songs is something I simply cannot live without these days), so generally I will use a device for a period of time when it's new to my ownership stock, then do the research and find a custom ROM to try out, then another if needed, then tweaks (custom kernels, undervolting, etc).
Same old same old as everyone else for the most part I suppose.

i had mine for 9 months before i decided to try a custom ROM...

The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.

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The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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I completely agree. My previous phone was a SGS2 and I flashed a new ROM the day I got mine. My N4 however I have decided to keep stock since 4.3 was released and so far I have been pleased.
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Custom ROMs are significantly and noticeably faster and more responsive. Besides on stock lte is broken...
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after i unwrapped it, my phone was stock long enough to download a custom rom. kinda like when you first installed windows and you use IE long enough to download chrome or firefox. same idea

I'm on stock right now
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On stock ROM now and while I do miss the volume rocker buttons and expanded lockscreen on custom roms, I am also happy without it.

I've been waiting for CM 10.2 Stable...so I guess that answers that.

Stock... No need for custom Roms anymore. Hell even the stock kernel is good now.
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Help needed: Looking for a rom

Hey All,
I'm looking for a rom and having trouble figuring out which one will best suit my needs. Typically, I would just download a bunch of roms and try them out, but I'm stuck in China with a low data ceiling on a very slow connection for the foreseeable future. I really need to be like 80% sure before I download.
I've been running CleanRom since the summer, and that has been a great experience, but CleanRom is no longer being developed, so I'm no longer up to date.
I want something with integrated tablet mode, and I would like something with a volume slider in the notification tray. Wifi toggle switch would also be ideal (I prefer not to use apps for these features). Aside from those features, I just need the most stable rom possible. Additional customization isn't necessary. In fact, pure stock outside of the features I listed would be great. And I'm obviously not looking for nightly builds. I want something to throw on here and leave on until the next Android update.
Does anyone know a rom that meets this criteria? If you have suggestions, I would love to hear them, and then I'll go read some threads.
I really appreciate the help.
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Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
sahshah said:
Check CM10 with Tablet UI, it should fit the needs you are looking for.
I have been using it since last 4 days and its been stable.No issues yet.
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I was just flipping through that thread to see what people were saying. I appreciate the suggestion.
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Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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jskeyes said:
Check Glazed Jellybean here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
I've been running this rom since 1.1.2 and have been very pleased with it. My current setup is Glazed JB 2.0 with the included Franco kernel, and Nova Launcher Prime for a launcher. I'm also using Pimp My Rom 2.0 for additional tweaks, but from the sounds of it you may not even want that.
Good luck in your search.
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Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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ejchis said:
Ivbeen looking at that one too, but the feedback seems to indicate that it might be more buggy. Have you had this experience?
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You want a solid rom? Team EOS is going to be your best bet. Very minimal isnt loaded with a bunch of crap you wont use. Has its own toggles however are kind of an eyesore IMO. You could just use an app to do the same thing i recommend "Extended Controls" Its a dollar.. but well worth it. LOL reread your OP oops.. :S
Also if you have the pull down.. and swipe in the middle to either the right or the left.. it will swap the Date and clock to a volume slider on the left and a brightness slider on the right .
The only problem I've had with this rom is the oft mentioned error about invalid glazed 2.0 init.. and it's more of a minor nuisance than anything. Functionality does not seem to have a problem, and I'm sure the message has something to do with Glazed being based on a CM nightly.. a bad integer table entry perhaps. Either way, my overall experience has been great with this setup.. buttery fast, and buttery smooth.
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Thanks for getting back to me on that. I've got a list of three I'm investigating. Trying out this CM10 kang first.
I've had very good luck with cm10. I've tried a few others but keep coming back to cyanogenmod. It's stable and has the features I want. On my Tablet I have many of them turned off, but it's nice for my phone. I
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Best rom for dd?

I currently am running liquidsmooth 3.2. I just found out that the thread for that ROM has been closed as per OP's request. I would like to switch to a different ROM but based on current choices, I don't know which one would be the best for a daily driver in terms of stability and performance. You advice would greatly appreciated.
Carbon rom is made by many off the devs from Liquid
Bionic Rom is pretty stable , basically stock with bionic patches for krait.
Paranoidandroid ROM is the way to go!
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onishchuk4 said:
I currently am running liquidsmooth 3.2. I just found out that the thread for that ROM has been closed as per OP's request. I would like to switch to a different ROM but based on current choices, I don't know which one would be the best for a daily driver in terms of stability and performance. You advice would greatly appreciated.
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Xylon ROM is one of the most stable roms out there. I would say any of the big name roms in the Original development section are pretty stable. Codefire, Xenon, anything else that isn't in beta.
I love Rasbeanjelly and MMuzzy myself.
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+1 for PARANOIDANDROID
Basically any rom is good enough for a daily driver on this phone, I know its a Douchy answer but with a nexus its basically your opinion its not like we are using Roms on the next update with major bugs to be worked on lol
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Also looking for a good first rom to flash.
Just rooted n unlocked bootloader last night.
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Crisisx1 said:
Also looking for a good first rom to flash.
Just rooted n unlocked bootloader last night.
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If you want something close to stock with some nice additions that add to the ROM I highly recommend MMuzzy. It's stock with the addition of clear all button for recently opened apps, T9 dialer, customizable quick settings, enhanced power menu and the addition to determine between H and H+ speeds. Other than that it is stock. But a good start for a first time ROM.
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Chochiwpg said:
If you want something close to stock with some nice additions that add to the ROM I highly recommend MMuzzy. It's stock with the addition of clear all button for recently opened apps, T9 dialer, customizable quick settings, enhanced power menu and the addition to determine between H and H+ speeds. Other than that it is stock. But a good start for a first time ROM.
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Just might take you up on that and flash it. Ty
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Rasbeanjelly is cool for me. But many roms are good dd if you test drive and fine tune!

Beans ROM, Hyperdrive, ButterBoost, or Stock.

I've tried all three and really can't decide which one I like the most. Which on are you using and why?
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I've been using Hyperdrive since the first build came out for Note 3 and the thing I like most about it is the battery life. I unplug at between 5 and 7am and by the time I go to bed at night I'm usually still around 75 - 80%. Of course it runs much smoother for me than stock does and I like the customizations that come along with it as well. I tried to flash Beans last night just to check it out but for some reason it wouldn't boot so I just restored my nandroid. I'm planning on flashing Beans when I get a little more time and checking it out but for now I'm extremely pleased with Hyperdrives performance on my device.
Eclipse
Im gonna wait on Nitro and his fabulous eclipse rom, it will be awesome, right now running stock trimmed out.
Try both and see if you like either one better than stock.
I basically switch everyday cause they're both so good
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XzxBATTxzX said:
I basically switch everyday cause they're both so good
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Might as well do this. With SafeStrap, you can load up multiple ROMS and switch as your heart desires. Honestly, don't know why phones with unlocked bootloaders don't have a Recovery that allows ROM slots. Seems to make perfect sense so you can load up more than one ROM. Just like partitioning your hard drive and running Windows on one side and Linux on the other. You can chose what you want to use, when you want to. Cant beat it.
But to answer your question, I am running HyperDrive since version 1. Havent really tried Beans. Sure it runs just as good. I am just happy with Hyper right now.
Stock with xposed framework and modules. While i appreciate everything the dev's do, development is not far enough along to leave stock with xposed yet.
Also on stock with too many mods in xposed to count. I seriously can't see any reason to flash a rom. I'm consistently getting up to 2 days uptime and I have all the mods I could ever want.
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XzxBATTxzX said:
I've tried all three and really can't decide which one I like the most. Which on are you using and why?
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So i struggled for the longest time why one rom on my phone would play nicer than the other , if they both use the same base.
So I formulated a theory , which can be really wrong , so take it with a grain of salt: Currently I have close to 120 user apps and wanam xposed with multiple customizations. I feel like your set is up is the reason why one rom will be buggy with poor battery life and other will be phenomenal. That is why you will find people swearing with one and hating the other. It is hard to find a perfect rom for all, since android varies tremendously due to its wonderful inherent ability to be customized.
of course you can also argue for coding, build boxes and smali skills.
which goes back to the main point, you need to try it out because compatibility between the developer's build and your set up is key to the perfect rom combination
so dont be startled if you try a rom that others rave about and it sucked on your phone , just move on and vice versa.
Xanza89 said:
I tried to flash Beans last night just to check it out but for some reason it wouldn't boot so I just restored my nandroid. I'm planning on flashing Beans when I get a little more time and checking it out but for now I'm extremely pleased with Hyperdrives performance on my device.
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If you aren't using SafeStrap 3.65, you're missing out on the ability to test up to 5 ROM's at once. If you are, my apologies for misunderstanding your post.
siciliano777 said:
Also on stock with too many mods in xposed to count. I seriously can't see any reason to flash a rom. I'm consistently getting up to 2 days uptime and I have all the mods I could ever want.
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What xposed mods are you using?
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I cant get hyperdrive to download from anywhere. I ran beans on my note 2 but wanted to try something else
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I've tried all three and really can't decide which one I like the most. Which on are you using and why?
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Tried beans and didn't provide that much customization. And battery was horrendous on all of the builds for me. Hyperdrive has more customization way way way better battery for me and I'm beta testing for him.
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If you aren't using SafeStrap 3.65, you're missing out on the ability to test up to 5 ROM's at once. If you are, my apologies for misunderstanding your post.
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Yes, I have the latest version of SafeStrap and I know you can flash multiple ROMs at once.
I'm shocked this thread hasn't been closed already.
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Tried beans and didn't provide that much customization. And battery was horrendous on all of the builds for me. Hyperdrive has more customization way way way better battery for me and I'm beta testing for him.
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I totally agree with you there. My battery life on HyperDrive is ridiculous. I can go almost two days before I need to plug my phone in. I'm very satisfied with HD and don't plan on switching anytime soon. I ended up staying on RLS2 cause my theme was causing my phone to reboot whenever I pressed the lock button after I took the RLS3 update, but overall HD is a very solid ROM and I'm quite content with it.
I just recently flashed the newest hyperdrive update RLS3 On 11/27 I'm having problems on the power menu doesn't show the power off also in the very top next to the clock it shows a lock icon what is it there for and can I remove it
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Also in the very top left corner how do I turn that off were it shows my speed?
I found out how to add toggles to power menu.
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mwebb34 said:
I just recently flashed the newest hyperdrive update RLS3 On 11/27 I'm having problems on the power menu doesn't show the power off also in the very top next to the clock it shows a lock icon what is it there for and can I remove it
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Hyperdrive tweaks
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cyanogenmod vs stock

Hello all,
Browsing the cyanogenmod website I am unable to find how this custom rom actually differs from stock. Could anyone tell me how it differs in tersm of features, performance etc.. ?
joefso said:
Hello all,
Browsing the cyanogenmod website I am unable to find how this custom rom actually differs from stock. Could anyone tell me how it differs in tersm of features, performance etc.. ?
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Unfortunately, the best way to go is to flash cm and then you'll see the difference(s)! Don't forget to do a nandroid backup first though.
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There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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chrisrozon said:
There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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Don't listen to this post , if it was true then no dev would release a rom here. There are plenty of roms that offer a lot more then exposed + modules. Even stock roms offer ART runtime which isn't possible with exposed. Try a few and ask questions on the rom in question thread as most people hear are more then happy to help.
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Don't listen to this post , if it was true then no dev would release a rom here. There are plenty of roms that offer a lot more then exposed + modules. Even stock roms offer ART runtime which isn't possible with exposed. Try a few and ask questions on the rom in question thread as most people hear are more then happy to help.
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I don't have the exact numbers, but quite a few roms are based on CM. Take CM out of the mix, and there will be only be a few roms to choose from.
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Cm offers better control of your phone compared with stock rom. Besides, pravicy guard and crypted message is cool.
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I prefer AOSP, code is cleaner, sure devs would agree.
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chrisrozon said:
There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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htc dream and htc magic, first devices with cm support had "nexus like" stock rom. So i guess that CM roms are still good for nexus devices
I reverted back to stock, the reasons for this are the battery drain with CM 11 M2 and the camera issue and the crashing, two of these I also experienced with CM 10.2. I am currently running franco kernel with the Dalvik/Bionic optimization and until now the battery life and performance have been like never before!
let me tell you someting buddy. the battery has several charging cycles ,wich means that over time it will not be as new.this is main reason for the bad battery life.
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joefso said:
I reverted back to stock, the reasons for this are the battery drain with CM 11 M2 and the camera issue and the crashing, two of these I also experienced with CM 10.2. I am currently running franco kernel with the Dalvik/Bionic optimization and until now the battery life and performance have been like never before!
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I don't have any of these issues on CM. The phone drains under 2% an hour while sleeping.
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good for everyone that enjoys CM, I do not think I will be returning to it, going to stick with PA for the near future if any rom is going to be flashed. I tested the battery life compared to recent usage, not that this matters anymore.

Best ROM for battery life and performance?

Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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mksin11 said:
Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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ROM will be pretty much irrelevant. The vast majority are AOSP based, with the differences being visual tweaks and added features, which add little, if any, drain on the battery. Some features, like pocket mode, might drain a bit more, but it's up to you to use them. All will run smooth as butter, stock. It's things like live wallpapers, excessive widgets, and apps running in the background that'll cause lag and stutters.
Custom kernels can help with battery life, but it's a small percentage, and it depends more on how you use the phone. A wakelock detector app plus Greenify can keep your phone from constantly waking and syncing, and that helps battery life a lot. And of course, screen brightness is the biggest battery killer of all.
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Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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Well if you want a really smooth and battery friendly rom, I'd recommend the L preview.. If you want a Kk rom I'd recommend liquidsmooth as it's feature packed and optimized really well. I personally have used both and right now use LS with Unleashed kernel.. It's a great combo. But in the end you gotta try out doff things to see what you like
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Well if you want a really smooth and battery friendly rom, I'd recommend the L preview.. If you want a Kk rom I'd recommend liquidsmooth as it's feature packed and optimized really well. I personally have used both and right now use LS with Unleashed kernel.. It's a great combo. But in the end you gotta try out doff things to see what you like
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I was thinking of install the L preview and matrix kernal! But I don't really know how stable and what bugs are in the ROM and also not many apps will work on L...
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I was thinking of install the L preview and matrix kernal! But I don't really know how stable and what bugs are in the ROM and also not many apps will work on L...
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While I used it there weren't any issues in my end .. But since L will be out in a matter a few weeks, if you want to stick to kk, the try out LS..
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While I used it there weren't any issues in my end .. But since L will be out in a matter a few weeks, if you want to stick to kk, the try out LS..
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So let's say I install L and matrix kernal. When the official update comes out, will I lose root when I update?
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So let's say I install L and matrix kernal. When the official update comes out, will I lose root when I update?
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Well I doubt you would be able to even install an ota update of the official L.. You'd have to probably flash a new rom based on it or flash the factory image once it's out.. I'm sure rooted base roms of L would come out within a week of the release so you could flash that.. But if you want the ota, then you can go back to factory image 4.4.4 after release of L and get the ota after.. But no root.

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