cyanogenmod vs stock - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all,
Browsing the cyanogenmod website I am unable to find how this custom rom actually differs from stock. Could anyone tell me how it differs in tersm of features, performance etc.. ?

joefso said:
Hello all,
Browsing the cyanogenmod website I am unable to find how this custom rom actually differs from stock. Could anyone tell me how it differs in tersm of features, performance etc.. ?
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Unfortunately, the best way to go is to flash cm and then you'll see the difference(s)! Don't forget to do a nandroid backup first though.
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There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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chrisrozon said:
There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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Don't listen to this post , if it was true then no dev would release a rom here. There are plenty of roms that offer a lot more then exposed + modules. Even stock roms offer ART runtime which isn't possible with exposed. Try a few and ask questions on the rom in question thread as most people hear are more then happy to help.
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bladebuddy said:
Don't listen to this post , if it was true then no dev would release a rom here. There are plenty of roms that offer a lot more then exposed + modules. Even stock roms offer ART runtime which isn't possible with exposed. Try a few and ask questions on the rom in question thread as most people hear are more then happy to help.
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I don't have the exact numbers, but quite a few roms are based on CM. Take CM out of the mix, and there will be only be a few roms to choose from.
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Cm offers better control of your phone compared with stock rom. Besides, pravicy guard and crypted message is cool.
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I prefer AOSP, code is cleaner, sure devs would agree.
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chrisrozon said:
There's no real reason to use CM on a Nexus phone, other than for since variety. Stock plus xposed lets you do everything a custom ROM does.
CM is really made for phones burdened with terrible manufacturers skins.
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htc dream and htc magic, first devices with cm support had "nexus like" stock rom. So i guess that CM roms are still good for nexus devices

I reverted back to stock, the reasons for this are the battery drain with CM 11 M2 and the camera issue and the crashing, two of these I also experienced with CM 10.2. I am currently running franco kernel with the Dalvik/Bionic optimization and until now the battery life and performance have been like never before!

let me tell you someting buddy. the battery has several charging cycles ,wich means that over time it will not be as new.this is main reason for the bad battery life.
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joefso said:
I reverted back to stock, the reasons for this are the battery drain with CM 11 M2 and the camera issue and the crashing, two of these I also experienced with CM 10.2. I am currently running franco kernel with the Dalvik/Bionic optimization and until now the battery life and performance have been like never before!
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I don't have any of these issues on CM. The phone drains under 2% an hour while sleeping.
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good for everyone that enjoys CM, I do not think I will be returning to it, going to stick with PA for the near future if any rom is going to be flashed. I tested the battery life compared to recent usage, not that this matters anymore.

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best rom for nexus 7?

just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
Ive been using Paul Obriens Jr# ROMs. theyre just tweaked stock ROMs, but I have never had a single issue so far and with every release there are new features without any new bugs. which is always nice.
randroid123 said:
The new team BAMF wrong is sooooo buttery! Running very smooth and stable for me
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2nd'd
BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
Running skanky cm10 nightlies. Very stable, very happy
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2nd'd
BAMF is my daily driver .. with Nova Launcher .. reeeeal smoove
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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It ships with stock so run stock for a few weeks to establish a baseline for stability and speed before you go experimenting.
I would wait a couple months. Stock nexus 7 runs great. Just unlock and root it. After a couple months Roms will start to mature and you will also see which ones seem to be leading, me personally, I love to flash. But I, very happy with stock and nova launcher. There are some things I would like from full tablet ui. But every ROM is promising the world. Just waiting to see which ones take the lead.
So just wait for now. no rush, do you hate stock that much?
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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Have tried just about all the popular ones out as of yet, favorite so far has to be TeamEOS' nightlies. Very stable, UI works great, launcher rotation, and has the ICS style status bar, which I prefer.
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I se quick boot - lets me soft boot into recovery - no messing around with USB cables
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Plus people are having some issues booting into recovery without a USB or adb
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I've been using the Pure AOSP rom, I used the stock for a couple of days and then switched, never looked back. There aren't a lot of differences between stock and the Pure AOSP, but the AOSP rom provides a cleaner starting point and the camera works by default.
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I'm currently running stock, I just rooted and unlocked so I'm set whenever the stable full roms start kicking in. No need to rush it, just stick with stock for now
SoHaunted said:
How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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I keep trying new ones in hopes that it will somehow get even better, but keep returning to stock.
Nothing is as smooth.
Currently running stock, rooted, deodexed. With the tabletUI mod. Nova launcher. awesome.
I'm running BAMF Paradigm. It's absolutely an amazing blend of custom features that offer visual and performance related options to really make it your tablet, I'm very happy with it, I've run several others also. DEFINITELY recommend Motley's kernel, it's one of the things I love most about the nexus 7. Also Aaronpoweruser's (sp) cookies and cream rom ran really good for me.
Just go for a different kernel rather than ROM, I tried out Trinity today (only got the 7 yesterday) and I find its quite slick..
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lindenhurst said:
I think you are right about that. Although I flash Roms on my galaxy note, I could not see the need on the nexus 7 because it runs better than any ROM I ever put on the note
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How much smoother can it be than stock jb? Seems like people are getting placebo effects from custom roms, only benefit I see is removal of bloat, if there is any really.
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Hundred percent agree. I have Paranoid Android on there just for the Tablet UI changes. I have found that Kernel Improvements do help drastically.
plain old pure aosp. its clean and fast, with the trinity kernel at least
Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2
mbrito41712 said:
just bought my nexus 7 would like to know what rom is best when it comes to battery life, quickness, and stability?? please help choose rom their are so many
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I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
oscarinexus7 said:
I have only tried Jelly Bean Glazed V1.1.2 with motley kernel and I love it! Rock solid stability, amazing speed and great customization.
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I've also found that Glazed is the only ROM of the one's that I've tried so far that let's me use Amazon Instant Video from the Amazon web site.

CM10 Nexus 4

What are the best advantages of CM10.1 on the Nexus 4?
I get a little better battery life and I like the split notification/toggle pull down menu. Make a backup and try it out for a day.
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jnewman1991 said:
I get a little better battery life and I like the split notification/toggle pull down menu. Make a backup and try it out for a day.
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Thanks! One more questions PLEASE! How can I post on "Nexus 4 Original Android Development" page? I am always told I need to have atleast 10 posts but I already have 10 posts and still cannot post there? I really want to be able to post there :/
CM 10.1 gives you more customization options
This is a good question to be honest, I have yet to see a post that explains in detail what is to gain by using CM as opposed to stock on a Nexus 4. Personally I don't see the need to flash a rom, but then again I don't know exactly what does CM bring. It would be nice if someone compiled the definitive list of features CM has that jelly bean 4.2.1 stock lacks.
I have same question. Any good summary?
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It's basically stock ROM, but with add-ons and tweaks, little things that Google has to fix yet.
I find two tweaks really useful, the first one, the quick settings panel, in CM the buttons are toggles, and not just shortcuts. Also, quiet hours is pretty useful IMO. Battery life is much better than stock ROM, and even that right now there are only nightlies, CM is quite stable because we have nexus
You should try it, if you don't like CM, there are a lot of ROMs that you can try.
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Another thing to mention is that you receive security updates more often (when received from a trusted source) und most important IMO you can get rid of that bloatware delivered with most phones. This is especially important with "Non Nexus phones". Also many extra features, as shown above, are included and you don´t need a special app.
Yup CM10.1 is the only custom ROM i'd use on the N4.. all others just seem to play catchup.

Best rom for dd?

I currently am running liquidsmooth 3.2. I just found out that the thread for that ROM has been closed as per OP's request. I would like to switch to a different ROM but based on current choices, I don't know which one would be the best for a daily driver in terms of stability and performance. You advice would greatly appreciated.
Carbon rom is made by many off the devs from Liquid
Bionic Rom is pretty stable , basically stock with bionic patches for krait.
Paranoidandroid ROM is the way to go!
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onishchuk4 said:
I currently am running liquidsmooth 3.2. I just found out that the thread for that ROM has been closed as per OP's request. I would like to switch to a different ROM but based on current choices, I don't know which one would be the best for a daily driver in terms of stability and performance. You advice would greatly appreciated.
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Xylon ROM is one of the most stable roms out there. I would say any of the big name roms in the Original development section are pretty stable. Codefire, Xenon, anything else that isn't in beta.
I love Rasbeanjelly and MMuzzy myself.
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+1 for PARANOIDANDROID
Basically any rom is good enough for a daily driver on this phone, I know its a Douchy answer but with a nexus its basically your opinion its not like we are using Roms on the next update with major bugs to be worked on lol
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Also looking for a good first rom to flash.
Just rooted n unlocked bootloader last night.
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Crisisx1 said:
Also looking for a good first rom to flash.
Just rooted n unlocked bootloader last night.
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If you want something close to stock with some nice additions that add to the ROM I highly recommend MMuzzy. It's stock with the addition of clear all button for recently opened apps, T9 dialer, customizable quick settings, enhanced power menu and the addition to determine between H and H+ speeds. Other than that it is stock. But a good start for a first time ROM.
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Chochiwpg said:
If you want something close to stock with some nice additions that add to the ROM I highly recommend MMuzzy. It's stock with the addition of clear all button for recently opened apps, T9 dialer, customizable quick settings, enhanced power menu and the addition to determine between H and H+ speeds. Other than that it is stock. But a good start for a first time ROM.
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Just might take you up on that and flash it. Ty
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Rasbeanjelly is cool for me. But many roms are good dd if you test drive and fine tune!

Is stock good enough for you?

Hey N4 users, how many of you are satisfied with stock 4.3?
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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babalonius508 said:
I used to flash ROMs but I typically just stay on stock 4.3 now. I use a quick settings mod to add more tiles and an extended power menu mod to get reboot options. Other than that stock is all I need.
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Flashed many roms ,tried about 6-7 roms and I realized that stock is good enough for me. I'm using battery % mod + advanced reboot ,it's enough.
I really enjoy with 4.3 stock rom.
Never was.
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Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
AndroidKills said:
Honestly, not a fan of the Nav bars, so no Stock for me. I feel that they take up more space than they should. I ♥ extra screen space.
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I use an app called fullscreen, and stock rom is fine after a few personalisation tweaks (playing with MUIU theme icons currently). Oh yeah..Pie Control App, Power Toggles, etc...apps really can extend usefulness like roms do, just have to hunt for them.
I need the long press navbar action, and better toggles.
Instead of flashing different mod a custom Rom is much easier.
Not for me. I like the extras, changes under the hood, ect the custom ROMs bring.
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Yes. I've run stock on my phones since the Galaxy Nexus was released. I don't have the desire to do the custom ROM song and dance when stock does everything I want it to do.
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I'm very satisfied with stock! The only issue is I wish with the default launcher you could change the pages, that's my only complaint... I wish I didn't have to use apex on top of default...
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Generally speaking I would say yes, stock is great, but there are aspects to using something like Paranoid Android (lubz me some PIE) as well as CyanogenMod (volume rockers to change songs is something I simply cannot live without these days), so generally I will use a device for a period of time when it's new to my ownership stock, then do the research and find a custom ROM to try out, then another if needed, then tweaks (custom kernels, undervolting, etc).
Same old same old as everyone else for the most part I suppose.
i had mine for 9 months before i decided to try a custom ROM...
The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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The nexus 4 is the only android phone I've owned and kept as stock which is kind of ironic.
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I completely agree. My previous phone was a SGS2 and I flashed a new ROM the day I got mine. My N4 however I have decided to keep stock since 4.3 was released and so far I have been pleased.
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Custom ROMs are significantly and noticeably faster and more responsive. Besides on stock lte is broken...
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after i unwrapped it, my phone was stock long enough to download a custom rom. kinda like when you first installed windows and you use IE long enough to download chrome or firefox. same idea
I'm on stock right now
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On stock ROM now and while I do miss the volume rocker buttons and expanded lockscreen on custom roms, I am also happy without it.
I've been waiting for CM 10.2 Stable...so I guess that answers that.
Stock... No need for custom Roms anymore. Hell even the stock kernel is good now.
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Best ROM for battery life and performance?

Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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mksin11 said:
Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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ROM will be pretty much irrelevant. The vast majority are AOSP based, with the differences being visual tweaks and added features, which add little, if any, drain on the battery. Some features, like pocket mode, might drain a bit more, but it's up to you to use them. All will run smooth as butter, stock. It's things like live wallpapers, excessive widgets, and apps running in the background that'll cause lag and stutters.
Custom kernels can help with battery life, but it's a small percentage, and it depends more on how you use the phone. A wakelock detector app plus Greenify can keep your phone from constantly waking and syncing, and that helps battery life a lot. And of course, screen brightness is the biggest battery killer of all.
mksin11 said:
Last time I ever flashed a ROM or participated in this was about 3 years ago. I'm pretty fresh to how this works and all but i still remember the gist of it. I just got my nexus 4 and am hoping to make it better
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Well if you want a really smooth and battery friendly rom, I'd recommend the L preview.. If you want a Kk rom I'd recommend liquidsmooth as it's feature packed and optimized really well. I personally have used both and right now use LS with Unleashed kernel.. It's a great combo. But in the end you gotta try out doff things to see what you like
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Well if you want a really smooth and battery friendly rom, I'd recommend the L preview.. If you want a Kk rom I'd recommend liquidsmooth as it's feature packed and optimized really well. I personally have used both and right now use LS with Unleashed kernel.. It's a great combo. But in the end you gotta try out doff things to see what you like
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I was thinking of install the L preview and matrix kernal! But I don't really know how stable and what bugs are in the ROM and also not many apps will work on L...
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I was thinking of install the L preview and matrix kernal! But I don't really know how stable and what bugs are in the ROM and also not many apps will work on L...
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While I used it there weren't any issues in my end .. But since L will be out in a matter a few weeks, if you want to stick to kk, the try out LS..
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While I used it there weren't any issues in my end .. But since L will be out in a matter a few weeks, if you want to stick to kk, the try out LS..
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So let's say I install L and matrix kernal. When the official update comes out, will I lose root when I update?
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mksin11 said:
So let's say I install L and matrix kernal. When the official update comes out, will I lose root when I update?
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Well I doubt you would be able to even install an ota update of the official L.. You'd have to probably flash a new rom based on it or flash the factory image once it's out.. I'm sure rooted base roms of L would come out within a week of the release so you could flash that.. But if you want the ota, then you can go back to factory image 4.4.4 after release of L and get the ota after.. But no root.

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