Hey guys, so I asked this earlier and didn't get much response but maybe if I'm more specific I will.. I'm getting my replacement N7 tomorrow, and my current one is running MoDaCo jr6 and I want to make the new one exactly like my old with as little risk as possible, so my idea is this :
Root new one and install MoDaCo
Backup ROM on current N7
Place backup on new N7
Go to advanced restore and restore data
then set everything else up manually
Easier: boot into your recovery, make Nandroid backup, copy folder from location (for cwm its on the sd card under the folder clockwork mod. Put that on the new one and restore the backup from there. It will be exactly like your old one.
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redmonke255 said:
Easier: boot into your recovery, make Nandroid backup, copy folder from location (for cwm its on the sd card under the folder clockwork mod. Put that on the new one and restore the backup from there. It will be exactly like your old one.
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I was just worried about some stuff not transferring properly due to hardware ?
Hardware is exactly the same.
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Hardware is exactly the same.
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Well I mean of course it's the same item, but I don't know how much is backed up I guess nothing will get hurt by doing it huh ?
Worth a shot. If it works then it works, if not there's always your original plan.
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I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need to be sure in case I need the phone restored to working status very quickly.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.
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I know there are tutuorials for this. I found a few and most of them either expect me to fully understand adb shell commands or understand linux, of which I do very little. I have the rooted 2.1 OTA on my Eris currently. I wanted to start trying out other ROMs on the phone. I've done a nandroid backup, but from searching around I read that it doesn't back up apps or user data, to an extent.
1) I get the error message "Run Nandroid +ext via adb!" when trying to backup everything using nandroid + ext. I also get the same message when trying to use a BART backup.
2) What is the difference between the two? (BART and nandroid)
3) What are the adb commands to use these?
4) How can I make a complete "screenshot" of my phone to restore everything back to its current state? Is this what BART/nandroid+ext do? I need this in case the ROM doesn't work/I screw something up.
5) Is apps2SD really that useful? I only run like 45 apps.
6) Does overclocking have any downsides? (I know the phone can lock up if you push it too far, so other than this.)
I think that's it. I've softmodded consoles and a few random electronics but phones are a new one. Sorry if half of these have been answered. I haven't been able to find much about this stuff in laymen's terms.
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1) if you get that message on restore 99% of the time that means your battery is low.
2) I have no idea what the difference is, but NAND always works great for me.
3) You would need to flash the parts of a NAND Backup via fastboot (correct me if I'm wrong). It's a pain in the ass for the most part.
4) NAND backup and restore makes a "screenshot". It will turn your phone to exactly how it was when u made the backup (make sure you wipe first though )
5) APP2Sd is only if you feel you need it. I use it, but is not required at all. If you have enough free space that why bother, but if not it's good utility to have available.
6) OC is awesome only downside is battery and that is barely their. You can also bork your phone if you set it to high. Some phones can handle over 710 some cannot. The only way you will know for yourself is if you try!
Go for the aloysius rom if you need a or want a new rom to flash
Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?
Oh, one more question I forgot.
Code:
adb pull data/app desktop
Was using this to pull apps from my phone to the computer. After I did, I couldn't find them on the computer. I assumed they'd go to the desktop, but apparently I was wrong? Where are they?
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Awesome, thanks. I'll check that ROM out and see if I can get to flashing after work.
1) This isn't when restoring, it's when I'm trying to actually make a backup. Nandroid works fine, but nandroid +ext and BART both give me errors about adb.
Any other suggestions/answers?
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You only have to do nandroid without the +ext. You only use ext when you have a partition on your sd card (for running apps2sd). Try a plain ole nandroid. As far as bart goes, I've never heard of anybody using it.
is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?
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is there a way to name the nandroid backups so you know which one is which when you go to restore? or can you only have one at a time?
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You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.
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You can have as many as your sd card will hold. They will be in folder on your sd card called "nandroid" and you can rename however you see fit, just make sure you Do Not put any spaces in the name.
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if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?
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if i rename them there, does it rename them in the restore menu so i know which is which?
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Okay, if a nandroid backup makes a total system image incl. apps and user data, I should be good to go.
Still wondering about how to pull apks and where they go. Any ideas there? See one of my above posts about it.
Also, I need to backup my ENTIRE SD card before a wipe, right?
I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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You need to flash back to stock using odin, just go to the development section and click om the.sticky, under odin roms. Click the.stock one and flash,
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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That wasn't his question... Like at all...
I'd do a nandroid and back up the apps and data in titanium and save them to the SD and then put that SD in the new phone that comes.
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What would happen if I copied all the contents of the internal memory (all files ,all folders) then copied those over the contents of the new phones internal memory?. Nandroid and TB are not normally saved to the external SD card.
Or should I just load the new rom on the new phone and just copy the TB folder to the new phone and restore from that?
Nandroid and titanium are a good start but neither of those will do things like modem files.
So I would add on the new phone do a base install of fusion 1.1 with the appropriate kernel, i think you said was your rom, then a nandroid restore and that should get you there
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I have a Vibrant with fusion 1.1 that is going back to T-mobile. Is there a way to just clone everything on this phone to the new phone.
Can I just copy Titanium backup form the old phone and put it on the sd card of the new one. Is there a better method?
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I'll chime in with my opinion. Granted my opinion comes from my experiences constantly experimenting with different roms. I've flashed the phone this month almost as often as I've received actual phone calls for crying out loud!
The amount of time expended on looking for such a perfect method seems to be greater than the amount of time spent merely reconstructing an equivalent environment.
Keeping all of my contacts on google and using appbrain to have the ability to keep a known inventory of apps...I can reconstruct my daily driver environment from one rom to another in about 30 minutes max without the need to explicitly backup anything.
Though this may not work for everyone, it surely would work for most. Just a thought...
Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Using AppBrain would mean you would have to constantly re-download your apps. Also, this does not save the settings and what about apps that are not on the market?
I use Titanium Backup if I want to transfer all my apps and settings. Nandroid would be very appropriate to transfer over all the of phone's data, granted you also manually include the correct modem and kernel.
Doing a Titanium Restore surely takes less time then redownloading and installing from the market, especially if you have the Pro version as it is MUCH MUCH quicker.
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Titanium can save some time, but honestly not enough to write home about, at least for me. It's a matter of a few minutes different in my experience.
The reason why I do not use Titanium, despite the fact that it can save some time is that it can lead to complications especially when bouncing between 2.1 and 2.2 derivative roms, depending on what you back up of course. I'll use it when I'm staying within the domain of 2.1...or staying within the domain of 2.2. Crossing those domains however I never use Titanium. I've had more problems than not, and admittedly that may be due to my ignorance of what things are truly safe to restore across different versions of Android.
Then again I'm probably unusual compared to the OP, in that I experiment with EVERYTHING, up to and including a little bit of my own firmware cooking after the fact. Every firmware and experimental firmware and filesystem hack has at some point been on this phone, but that's how I roll.
Doing without deliberate backups hasn't drastically changed my restore times. Setting up the few apps that require setup takes a matter of seconds when I decide to use that app.
It's nice to get a fresh install - just TB and and reinstall after!
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Oh haha sorry I didnt read the whole thread, yea peform a nandroid
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You didn't even read the title of the thread before clicking it, bro....
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if you want exact - nandroid
otherwise use TitaniumBackup Pro
This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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This is what I would do. I would perform a nandroid. After doing so I would then copy everything in the internal sd to your computer. When the new phone comes. Copy everything into the new phone's internal sd. Root your phone, install clockwork mod. Flash a new rom if you want if not no biggy. Load up into clockwork mod, do an advanced restore, restore data only. Reboot. Reboot again. Load back into clockwork mod, clear cache and dalvik. Reboot twice. Run fix permissions. Reboot. Everything should work with no errors and it will look identical to your last vibrant. You could condense this but I wrote it so that you could install buncha diff roms without having to do titanium restore because that just takes a ****ing long time if you have a **** load of apps installed.
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Thanks for the lengthy explanation , that makes the most sense.
I will try this method . Thanks for taking the time.
Hey rancome7 - did you try this method? How did it work for you.. I may just do this right now as im in the same situation of wanting to clone my Vibrant to a new Vibrant
Question - wont restoring data from a nandroid after installing a new ROM cause the rom to act funny since the old data may not agree with it or overwrite something?
Hey guys. So I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7 using the root toolkit. All is well, have been running rooted apps etc. I have bought and installed ROM Toolbox Pro in order to backup my tablet (among other things), but it will not allow me to do this. When I go to make a backup of the current ROM (it is stock 4.1.1, unlocked and rooted), I get a warning that states "We failed to connect to ROM Manager".
Seems like I need ClockWorkMod Recovery installed? How do I go about putting this on the tablet? I don't need to start from scratch, i.e. unlocking and rooting all over again do I?
Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. I always managed to install custom ROMs on my Desire HD, I'm just a bit stuck here.
Also, when I persisted with the backup, disregarding the error message, the boot screen was a little dead Android with a red exclamation mark. Holding power button down allowed me to reboot the unit though.
Thanks
EDIT: Just found this guide, which, in the instructions, says to unlock and root first THEN proceed to install CWM. Would I be right to follow this guide?
theandroidsoul . com / nexus-7-clockworkmod-cwm-recovery-guide-both-touch-basic-versions-included
If you'd searched xda nexus 7 development you'd have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28061076
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kboya said:
If you'd searched xda nexus 7 development you'd have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28061076
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.....thanks a lot. I searched the entire Nexus 7 forums and couldn't find anything, didn't realise it would be so simple!
No worries, often it is easier to search development forums just by scanning the titles!
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Hmm I must have done something wrong. Installed CWM Recovery, tried to use ROM Manager to create a backup, it gets like 90% through then says there was an error backing up data. Now when I reboot I'm told that I'm running out of storage space? Before, I had like 2gb free, now 153mb? Have found where the backup files were saved, only ~20mb so that can't be it. Hahah this is neverending
bulldozed said:
Hmm I must have done something wrong. Installed CWM Recovery, tried to use ROM Manager to create a backup, it gets like 90% through then says there was an error backing up data. Now when I reboot I'm told that I'm running out of storage space? Before, I had like 2gb free, now 153mb? Have found where the backup files were saved, only ~20mb so that can't be it. Hahah this is neverending
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You need to free up more space before you make your backup. Delete the backup folder AND the blobs folder. CWR now uses blobs folder for differential backups.
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You need to free up more space before you make your backup. Delete the backup folder AND the blobs folder. CWR now uses blobs folder for differential backups.
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Thanks man. I'll delete Max Payne and try again. I appreciate all the help tonight.
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Warrior1975 said:
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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When I changed sd cards in my phone from the 16gb to the 64gb card, I copied my entire sd card to my laptop and then transferred all that data to the new card.
But in this case, I would try to copy over your nandroid to a computer and try that. Or do a synch to dropbox or drive and then resync to the new N7.
It can be done, just gotta figure which would be the best/fastest route.
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I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
I'm running AOKP, build 5. Also using TWRP. I think the titanium back up idea works fine. Thanks guys.
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Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
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No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
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No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
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Ok well I just said "you may have to use and," I didn't say you had to.. I said this because I mostly use adb, because MTP does not work well on Linux.
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I returned* my 16GB this morning. I took a full Titanium Backup and a full TWRP/nandroid then copied everything (most everything at least) from the internal SD to a 32gb microsd via OTG. I don't expect to have much trouble restoring it to the replacement. Already did from first 16gb to second, when screen got weird first time.
Note that TWRP puts the backups in directories that are named to identify the individual device. Not sure what the random-looking name is, but you'll need to figure out the right name for the new unit and move the files or TWRP won't see the backup to restore.
* Screen was getting bad and wal-mart was willing to take it back and refund my money. Intending to replace with a 32 or 32/3g sometime soon.
Titanium should be fine. I will just root the new device, start fresh and restore my apps.
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[Q] Moving from "old" nexus 4 to "new" nexus 4 via Nandroid backup?
I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.
You can do it that way but I would prefer starting fresh with only restoring app data..
Back up your current apps with carbon (recommend just doing app data), and copy the carbon folder and everything else on the sd card you need to your computer. Sign into your new phone and let the apps download. Copy the carbon folder and everything else you need onto your new device. Restore all the apps data.
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I just got my warranty replacement nexus 4 (Google support is amazing!), and want to transfer stuff from my "old" nexus 4 to my "new" nexus 4. Is it possible to do it via NANDROID backup? Is there any information that depends on the actual hardware information (maybe things like google login is in some way connected to the serial number of the phone)?
Thanks for advices.
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apple never do this, google is better and cheaper
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DONT restore whole nandroid !!!
seriously you could do some damage AFAIK (at least that was the case on my HTC desire or G1 as i recall some similiar thread on xda)
feel free to restore Carbon / Titanium / Mybackup applications and their data but not the WHOLE nandroid !!!
of course i could be wrong and restoring nandroid could be 100% safe.
but as i said i do recall some guy messing things up by exactly doin that, just cant remember which phone was that.
As others have said, using Titanium or a similar backup app is probably the safest option. One thing you could try is doing a full backup but then doing an 'advanced restore' in recovery and only restoring the /data partition. I'm not entirely sure whether this will work but it was fine on my old HD2. Still, I personally see Titanium as being the best solution.
Thanks everybody for the advice, yea I have Titanium licence and I feel I bought carbon as well (I like supporting good developers), so I'll try it that way.
@dzumagos: thanks for warning, I was going to test it if it works, but after reading your post - I think I'll just stick with Titanium or Carbon.
I used a nandroid to my replacement and it worked like a charmed. Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.
on an older phone, htc evo 4g I had 2 phones, the nandroid would not restore on the second phone, the device id or something was different.
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Can anybody translate this into English for me please?
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Titanium backup sucks and always puts my phone not a boot loop.
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This is an opinion, so don't state it as a fact. I reckon I've used Titanium well over 30 times to backup/restore (I was constantly changing ROMs on my HD2) and it has never failed me. As long as you don't mess with system settings and are sensible with what you restore you should never have a bootloop when using Titanium.