Can't backup my phone? Confused. - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys. So I have unlocked and rooted my Nexus 7 using the root toolkit. All is well, have been running rooted apps etc. I have bought and installed ROM Toolbox Pro in order to backup my tablet (among other things), but it will not allow me to do this. When I go to make a backup of the current ROM (it is stock 4.1.1, unlocked and rooted), I get a warning that states "We failed to connect to ROM Manager".
Seems like I need ClockWorkMod Recovery installed? How do I go about putting this on the tablet? I don't need to start from scratch, i.e. unlocking and rooting all over again do I?
Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. I always managed to install custom ROMs on my Desire HD, I'm just a bit stuck here.
Also, when I persisted with the backup, disregarding the error message, the boot screen was a little dead Android with a red exclamation mark. Holding power button down allowed me to reboot the unit though.
Thanks
EDIT: Just found this guide, which, in the instructions, says to unlock and root first THEN proceed to install CWM. Would I be right to follow this guide?
theandroidsoul . com / nexus-7-clockworkmod-cwm-recovery-guide-both-touch-basic-versions-included

If you'd searched xda nexus 7 development you'd have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28061076
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kboya said:
If you'd searched xda nexus 7 development you'd have found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28061076
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.....thanks a lot. I searched the entire Nexus 7 forums and couldn't find anything, didn't realise it would be so simple!

No worries, often it is easier to search development forums just by scanning the titles!
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Hmm I must have done something wrong. Installed CWM Recovery, tried to use ROM Manager to create a backup, it gets like 90% through then says there was an error backing up data. Now when I reboot I'm told that I'm running out of storage space? Before, I had like 2gb free, now 153mb? Have found where the backup files were saved, only ~20mb so that can't be it. Hahah this is neverending

bulldozed said:
Hmm I must have done something wrong. Installed CWM Recovery, tried to use ROM Manager to create a backup, it gets like 90% through then says there was an error backing up data. Now when I reboot I'm told that I'm running out of storage space? Before, I had like 2gb free, now 153mb? Have found where the backup files were saved, only ~20mb so that can't be it. Hahah this is neverending
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You need to free up more space before you make your backup. Delete the backup folder AND the blobs folder. CWR now uses blobs folder for differential backups.

zinv said:
You need to free up more space before you make your backup. Delete the backup folder AND the blobs folder. CWR now uses blobs folder for differential backups.
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Thanks man. I'll delete Max Payne and try again. I appreciate all the help tonight.

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I hate having to restore

Does anyone else find it very time consuming to have to reinstall all of your data after every rom wipe? I find my self never leaving a rom for awhile because of the whole set up process including the Google set up.
It takes me an hour.
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I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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This is why Titanium Backup and Mybackup Root were written...
Titanium backup does all of that for you.... 20 minutes and your new ROM is setup
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I'm a solid 20-25 minutes max.
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Rooster85 said:
I can nandroid, wipe EVERYTHING, sign back in and restore data in under 20 mins.... you must be holding the phone wrong or something bud
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I suppose Ti is best, but I haven't seen a ics friendly one available on the open seas
Nandroid? I only have 1 one my phone and thats 2.3.3 stock.
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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Titanium is definitely ics friendly. If you have pro (or on free.. idk), set up filters with your must have apps. When you clear data ans flash a new rom, it will verify your TB account and restore settings, including filters. Just toggle the filter and do a batch restore. I was in the same boat you were til I started doing this.
And yes, TB also has a feature to restore apps or data, extracting from a nandroid backup.
•°NS4G • ICS°•
Or you could use es file explorer. Just go to the app manager button on the central screen, by pressing it it shows up all ur apps. Choose which ones you want and back them up. After flashing just restore using file explorer in the same manner...
The apps can also be found on the sdcard under backups/apps.
Astrofile manager does exactly the same job.. your pick.
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With Titanium Backup I can be back up and running in about 10 minutes.
Sign into Gmail
Sign into Outlook
Download TB from market
Restore apps and data
Done
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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just save a copy of a TB apk to your SD.
Thats if the custom rom that has a file explorer preloaded. If not has to download also from market
Another annoying thing Google doesn't add to OS besides a restart option is a built in file explorer
Shark_On_Land said:
Does anyone partition using cmw? I think its possible to some how do that, like save Ti as the drive, so all you have to do is just sign in to Google rather than having to download it.
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TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
Nandroid?..............
They take long to make, then they just sit there wasting space. Its not like you can just go back to them lime nothing, because by that time they'll be outdated.
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thats ridiculous:
1. im pretty sure ive noticed mine being around 6 minutes
2. they arent a waste of space since they are a back up file. i keep 3 always deleting the oldest one.
3. you CAN go back to them at anytime like nothing
4. i make mine every wednesday while im showering (which takes more then 6 minutes)
demo23019 said:
TB pro has an option to create a TB update.zip This will allow you to flash/install TB threw CWR
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Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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ozone89 said:
Wrong. Even the free one lets you create a flashable zip.
Moreover, you could make it build as a regular update.zip or even make it install as a system app or an user app.
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how the **** am i wrong i never said free one didn't
i said pro because that what i have
Noob question...flashed phone for first time yesterday and performed a backup using titanium free. When I flash a new rom don't you usually have to wipe data first? Would this not wipe the backup from your phone?
Thanks in advance!
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
Nick N said:
It stores a copy in a folder called TitaniumBackup. If you wipe the SD card (or storage for us) that is different.
It is a hassle having to reinstall an app like Chase that requires a confirmation text. TB (Pro for me) makes restoring login info, etc a snap. Worth the $.
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So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
Skillz1318 said:
So when I flash a new rom and wipe data, the SD card (storage) is not wiped?
Thanks!
Brett
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Noob replying to a noob (so pardon me, if i stumble):
When flashing a new ROM, you wipe - system, dalvik cache, data and boot ( perhaps not reqd.) Wiping SD card not required when installing new ROMs, unless it's the first time, and you're putting CWR on a Nexus S... However, some developers do recommending a full SD Card wipe as well. I assume you copy the Titanium backup folders to your PC, and copy it back before restoring.. Haven't tried that yet..
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Probably will have to buy Pro, since it's getting to be a pain to restore my apps, with the permissions for each one...
Somehow, TiBackup doesn't seem to restore my homescreen settings, though I remember reading somewhere that it should do that as well..
Also, learnt the hardway not to try restoring Call logs and Messages when moving from a GB ROM to an ICS ROM... Boot loops with 2 ICS roms (Nexusbeam and Brainmaster's )
So, what all can you restore using TiB with your eyes closed?
I am still new to this phone, but with the Evo we had a zip file that wiped the system, data, cache, etc instead of remembering which ones to wipe. Maybe there is something like that for the Nexus?
I only restore apps, so I am not much help outside of that. With TB Pro all you have to do is click batch and restore all the apps with data automatically while you sit there and wait. I generally restore user apps only, maybe someone else can chime in with advice on restoring settings?
There is also an option to save backups on your drop box account, but I don't.
I am a flashaholic, one of the reasons I bought a used NS4G was because I was bored with the Evo. Titanium Backup (Pro) makes it fast and easy to restore apps and data when flashing new ROMs.

[Q]TWRP Backup Questions

Rooted 6.2.2, TWRP installed. I ran backup of the stock ROM, before I install a different ROM like CM7 or the ICS that is being developed do I need to copy that backup off the Fire? After the new ROM has been flashed, does that backup stay on the Fire or does the flashing process wipe it out?
Also, after restoring that backup......am I completely at the point when I took the backup? Data, apps, etc should be just as they were when I took the backup?
THANKS
The backup image is stored in TWRD directory with the data and time name. Rename it as your stock Tom for future use.
The contents of the backup as a defualt has ROM and your application if you did not change parameters
Regards
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Just remind you that I have got a weird issue that some of my games does show their icons and when I type to them it says something like "Cannot load, restart Go Launcher" ( I use Go Launcher). I found no way to restart my launcher so that I just reinstall them and it's fine.
ammubarak said:
The backup image is stored in TWRD directory with the data and time name. Rename it as your stock Tom for future use.
The contents of the backup as a defualt has ROM and your application if you did not change parameters
Regards
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cruel91 said:
Just remind you that I have got a weird issue that some of my games does show their icons and when I type to them it says something like "Cannot load, restart Go Launcher" ( I use Go Launcher). I found no way to restart my launcher so that I just reinstall them and it's fine.
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Thanks for the replies, but they don't answer my questions.
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Rooted 6.2.2, TWRP installed. I ran backup of the stock ROM, before I install a different ROM like CM7 or the ICS that is being developed do I need to copy that backup off the Fire? After the new ROM has been flashed, does that backup stay on the Fire or does the flashing process wipe it out?
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The backups go to /sdcard/TWRP/backups/...
Unless you wipe your SDCARD they should not be touched.
You can always, copy them onto your computer if you want... which would be useful if you had to like replace the hardware and wanted to restore it onto the new hardware.
Also, after restoring that backup......am I completely at the point when I took the backup? Data, apps, etc should be just as they were when I took the backup?
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Depends on what you backed up (What options you chose).
krelvinaz said:
The backups go to /sdcard/TWRP/backups/...
Unless you wipe your SDCARD they should not be touched.
You can always, copy them onto your computer if you want... which would be useful if you had to like replace the hardware and wanted to restore it onto the new hardware.
Depends on what you backed up (What options you chose).
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Thanks....any suggestions on the options? Select all of them I assume? lol
Just like an image taken on a computer, when I restore it, I would want to be at the exact point where the image was taken. System, apps, data, etc.
the answer to ontwowheels question isn't truly answered yet. Like him, i'm rooted, with TWRP, and trying things out. i'd very much like to try MIUI but its not clear if i can completely revert back to stock Kindle [admittedly there are several conveniences i like about but unfortunately it aint a-la-carte unless i foolishly dive in making my own ROM!]. Can someone please provide some guidance as to what must be backed up to restore stock kindle again, just as i left it [settings, preferences, apps, registration with amazon and market, etc] or if that's even possible, or what won't be restored. i'm not a developer and i hesitate to go with trial and error
thank you very much for your patience
mebobbob said:
the answer to ontwowheels question isn't truly answered yet. Like him, i'm rooted, with TWRP, and trying things out. i'd very much like to try MIUI but its not clear if i can completely revert back to stock Kindle [admittedly there are several conveniences i like about but unfortunately it aint a-la-carte unless i foolishly dive in making my own ROM!]. Can someone please provide some guidance as to what must be backed up to restore stock kindle again, just as i left it [settings, preferences, apps, registration with amazon and market, etc] or if that's even possible, or what won't be restored. i'm not a developer and i hesitate to go with trial and error
thank you very much for your patience
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To restore stock just use TWRP to flash the update.zip found on amazon. Once you download it, you will have to rename it to whatever.ZIP instead or whatever.BIN. Once that's done, go to settings on the stock ROM and hit device, then factory reset and you should be good to go

Nandroid question.

I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Warrior1975 said:
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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When I changed sd cards in my phone from the 16gb to the 64gb card, I copied my entire sd card to my laptop and then transferred all that data to the new card.
But in this case, I would try to copy over your nandroid to a computer and try that. Or do a synch to dropbox or drive and then resync to the new N7.
It can be done, just gotta figure which would be the best/fastest route.
Warrior1975 said:
I may be able to convince my gf to take my Nexus tablet so I can upgrade to the 32gb version. Is there anyway to restore my nandroid from this one to the new one? Or anyway to restore my titanium back up to the new one?
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Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
I'm running AOKP, build 5. Also using TWRP. I think the titanium back up idea works fine. Thanks guys.
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mvmacd said:
Yes, you can copy the entire folder "clockworkmod/" to your computer, and then put it back [in the same place] on your new tablet. I'm not sure you can do it in MTP mode, you might have to use "adb pull /sdcard/clockworkmod/ ./clockworkmod/" and then "adb push ./clockworkmod/ /sdcard/" on the new one...
However, only 1 thing comes to mind. I have heard reports that new Nexus 7's preloaded with 4.1.2 were not able to flash a rom unless the rom had been updated somehow to be compatible. I can't remember much more than that.. not sure what ROM you're on [which should be stock 4.1.2, or custom rom]
That being said, to be safe I would recommend instead copying the /sdcard/TitaniumBackup/ folder instead, as I don't see how that method can fail.
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No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
[email protected]_OC said:
No need to push via adb.
only copy the folder in mtp. it will work without any problem.
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Ok well I just said "you may have to use and," I didn't say you had to.. I said this because I mostly use adb, because MTP does not work well on Linux.
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I returned* my 16GB this morning. I took a full Titanium Backup and a full TWRP/nandroid then copied everything (most everything at least) from the internal SD to a 32gb microsd via OTG. I don't expect to have much trouble restoring it to the replacement. Already did from first 16gb to second, when screen got weird first time.
Note that TWRP puts the backups in directories that are named to identify the individual device. Not sure what the random-looking name is, but you'll need to figure out the right name for the new unit and move the files or TWRP won't see the backup to restore.
* Screen was getting bad and wal-mart was willing to take it back and refund my money. Intending to replace with a 32 or 32/3g sometime soon.
Titanium should be fine. I will just root the new device, start fresh and restore my apps.
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[Q] Nexus 7 ADB Back/Restore problem

I'm trying to do a back up and restore using mskip's Nexus 7 Toolkit. Everything seems fine in terms of installing the toolkit and drivers but when I attempt the back up the file is only approx 125mb in size when there should be around 600mb to back up. Also when trying the restore, I enter the password and the Nexus displays 'restoration started' then instantly displays 'restoration ended' and theres no change to my device.
I have tried the manual command prompt method before using a guide posted on this site with the same results. I have heard that adb back up doesn't always work on some devices....am I just one of the unlucky ones or could I be missing something?
Running Widows 7 64 bit
Thanks
You could try using helium backup from playstore
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mihahn said:
You could try using helium backup from playstore
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Thanks mihahn. Gave Helium a go but a keep getting a error message to do with my 'desktop backup password'. I think I'm gonna give up with this backing up idea, lol.
joesf said:
Thanks mihahn. Gave Helium a go but a keep getting a error message to do with my 'desktop backup password'. I think I'm gonna give up with this backing up idea, lol.
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You set up the desktop backup password in the Developer section of the settings on the device.
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You set up the desktop backup password in the Developer section of the settings on the device.
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dkendrick, thanks for posting. I did have a password set already, that's what was causing the issue. After doing a little research, apparently Helium Backup may not/will not work if you have a password set. The the guy who made the app even posted somewhere there may be issues and he'll look into it.
I've managed to remove my password and Helium backup now works perfectly, exactly what I wanted. Thanks mihahn for recommending it:good:

Is It Possible to Backup Files When Phone Doesn't Boot?

Hello,
I literally installed the Facebook app from Google Play on my Nexus 4 hours ago and then my phone literally went blank. Eventually my phone was turned off as there was no more battery. I charged it and powered it but it no longer boots (it has been stuck at the X screen for hours). Is it possible to backup my files despite this so I can try to reinstall a custom ROM/unroot my Nexus 4?
I spent some time searching the forums and couldn't find the answer, so any response would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
One of the suggestions here might help you as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/access-device-computer-cracked-screen-t2885335
Do let know if it doesn't!
oopsy said:
Hello,
I literally installed the Facebook app from Google Play on my Nexus 4 hours ago and then my phone literally went blank. Eventually my phone was turned off as there was no more battery. I charged it and powered it but it no longer boots (it has been stuck at the X screen for hours). Is it possible to backup my files despite this so I can try to reinstall a custom ROM/unroot my Nexus 4?
I spent some time searching the forums and couldn't find the answer, so any response would be helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
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Maybe, it depends if you can boot into recovery and have a custom recovery
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SirHat said:
One of the suggestions here might help you as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/access-device-computer-cracked-screen-t2885335
Do let know if it doesn't!
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Thanks I'm actually trying something from here.
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Maybe, it depends if you can boot into recovery and have a custom recovery
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I can. I am running on TWRP v2.3.2.3 but I don't think I can access the files through ADB as I did not set it to Development Mode (ever). It seems I can actually back it up through TWRP, but my concern is I don't know how to extract it out of my phone because once I reinstall JB everything will be wiped right?
Once I reinstall a JB version that means everything will be erased. Does anyone how to keep that backup from TWRP if you can't take it out from your phone? It appears my version doesn't seem to have Nandroid.
Also, does anyone know if it's "System" that stores all the contacts/text messages?
I want to backup my Data folder too but I only have 900mb free space left on my phone (I have the 8gb version) and my Data file is about 1.5gb. I don't remember if I have anything valuable in my Data file that I need to recover, so just to be sure, does anyone know if I can explore my "Data" folder to remove content to make it smaller so I can back it up? Thanks.
ADB via recovery should be the way to go then.
Did you try something as an ADB file manager?
See: https://github.com/sole/aafm for example.
This should allow you to copy the files to your PC without having to backing them up first on the device itself.
An alternative way would be to connect to the (ADB) shell, delete some useless files.. like music and stuff you already have (or package music as one archive - download - delete) etc. Till you have enough to package the data directory in one go. If done right the archive should preserve file permissions which is an extra plus I guess.
The way I try to make sure I don't have a problem like this is:
- Letting TitaniumBackup backup all important applications + data every night @ 4 AM when it's charging (while I am sleeping).
- Use FolderSync to sync the new backups to a server I have running. Could also be cloud of course. (Only on Wifi and while charging)
Good luck!
If you can boot into recovery it might be possible to pull data there.
Also, if you know which ROM was installed, you can try just flashing the system partition of respective ROM. It might not fix your issue but might allow you to boot and backup your data prior to completely resetting everything.
I've had something similar once. Tried all kind of solutions via recovery/fastboot/adb and only flashing a clean system image allowed me to recover important data. The phone was unusable still (constant FC's) but it allowed me to establish an adb connection and pull all data I didn't want to lose.
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Problem Solved, didn't follow any of the suggestions. Thanks though.
If you can, please do put your solution here so other people with a similar problem can use search and find the solution. Thanks!
SirHat said:
If you can, please do put your solution here so other people with a similar problem can use search and find the solution. Thanks!
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To be honest, I actually didn't. I decided to perform a reset and lose my data (and reinstall my ROM) as I didn't have the patience to experiment and figure it out. I just don't have time for that.

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