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Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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Since they just announced the pre-order and release date for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 I decided to take my regular 10.1 back, since i'm still within my 30 day return period.
Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades. Having a SD card slot, 2 speakers on the front of the Tab and adding IR so I can control my home theater components, and getting official ICS on it. I can't wait.
Pre-order May 7th, release date on the 22nd.
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how much is it?
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how much is it?
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$399
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ezcats said:
$399
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wtf??? 399.
worth a trade lmfao
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Really excited for the new one with all the upgrades.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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wr should think about getting the note 10.1 everything is better there
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That's what I'm waiting for. I love my 3G Tab and the only thing that (for me) needs improvement is a more powerful processor. For taking notes and such at work the S-Pen's also a cool and practical feature. It's been delayed until June so Samsung can put a new quad-core Exynos SoC in and I'm hoping they bump up the display resolution while they're at it.
I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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I'm in a similar predicament. I want to get the Galaxy tab but now with Tab 2 launching i'm not sure if it's a wise decision. I feel like I will have buyers remorse if I buy the Galaxy tab 2 just because it has older components and a step backwards. Galaxy Note 10.1 won't arrive till June if its not pushed back (high possibility of delays). The Transformer Prime was another Tablet I was looking at but with the wifi and gps issues not too sure about Asus. So now sadly, I may look at the new iPad. Anyone else have any other suggestions?
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You can pre-order both the Acer A510 and new non-Prime Transformer (TF300) that has a plastic back cover and shouldn't have wireless issues. They're $449 and $399 respectively with the Acer being the more upscale of the two. Asus' build quality and QC have been sketchy and I haven't really followed Acer to offer any opinion. Costco's got some good deals on the G-Tab 1 and a ninety day return policy which should fall in to the launch timeframe for the Note.
Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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Sadly, I think you are right. I will have to be patient and wait and see what happens next. I guess with Google IO coming up soon the emphasis will be completely on JellyBean and ICS will be obsolete already by the time summer comes around.
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When I looked at the size and weight, and it was almost the same. From what I've read it's the same height and width, only 3 or 4 more ounces. Not a dramatic difference in weight. Hopefully, they kept the same shape and dimensions
so it will fit in my Galaxy Tab Book Cover Case.
I know there was no real upgrade in terms of specs, but, the additions they did make was huge to me. Adding ICS, something the previous Tab will probably not get, and if it does, it will be several months away. I had a ICS rom on mine and it was nice, but, lacking in some areas of true ICS. I like the speakers on the front at the top and bottom better than on the sides. It should make a huge difference when watching movies or listening to music. You can thank the German courts for this and Apple. Throw in the fact they added a space for SD card storage to expand, IR capabilities, will be great controlling my Home Theater components and it's a winner to me at the $399 price tag.
If it was higher than that, I would say no, but, at this price point, it's nice.
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The original Tab 10.1 is getting ICS. Samsung have confirmed it at several different points in time. WHEN will we get it, that's another story, but it's coming. It's being worked on. They even said that it was number 2 on the their priority list, right behind the GS II which has already started it's ICS rollout globally. It can't be that far away
So if you factor out ICS as an advantage (which you should), the only two things the Tab 2 has over the Tab 1 are the modified speaker positions and debatably the microSD storage (I say that because the storage sizes are halved on the Tab 2). Everything else that's different on the Tab 2 is a disadvantage.
Sorry to say, but it's the truth. And that 399 price point doesn't make it any easier to swallow, especially when you consider that if you can be patient for another couple of months, you'll have a huge selection of Tegra 3 tablets at all different sizes, all different price points, made by different companies.
Believe me, I'm not hating here. I got my Tab 10.1 last July and I absolutely love it. But right now, if 300 or 400 is my sweet spot for a tablet, I'm holding off for a couple of months. The Tab 2 isn't worth that.
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It's actually a downgrade, not an upgrade. It's thicker and heavier which means that either the components were changed or the design has been changed to make it cheaper to build. There's no flash on the camera either. It's got an OMAP chip vs. Teg2 so it's pretty much a lateral move but I'm sure the OMAP will be better at local video playback (anything would). The SD card's a benefit but ICS is a wash since the orignal G-Tab will get it (eventually) too. The 8GB is supposed to be $399 while the 16GB will be $449 so it's still no bargain.
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Yeah in a lot of ways, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is a DOWNGRADE over the original GT 10.1. The SD card slot is nice, but when you think about it, you can just get a 32 GB Tab 10.1 and be fine. I like the new placement of the speakers, but that's about it. Front facing camera is only VGA. No flash for the rear camera. Thicker and cheaper build quality. Same PLS screen, same res, same processor speed. The original 10.1 with the Tegra 2 would be better for gaming, while the OMAP should be better for HD vid watching. Although I have to say, if you encode a 720p file properly, it looks great on the Tab and plays really well. You don't need to play 1080p on these things.
If I didn't have a tablet right now and was looking to invest 400 dollars for a high-end one, I would honestly wait a few months. I'd wait either for the upgraded Transformer Prime with the higher res. screen and no GPS/WiFI issues, the Acer, the Galaxy Note 10.1, or even whatever quadcore Exynos Tab Samsung is working on at the moment.
Besides all of that, cheaper 7 inch Tegra 3 tablets are coming soon. Now is not a good time to be tablet shopping.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH...wow!!! effing samsung..
screw this..selling it and getting the asus prime
I would also hold off for the note 10.1... Better hardware AND the s-pen will give it functionality that no other tab has. I have tried the regular note (5.3) and the pen works very well, very cool to jot down stuff quickly or to add comments/notes to documents.
Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I bet they are having problems they will have a even bigger one if they don't get there arses into first gear people will migrate to other tablets.This is just another sorry excuse to buy some more time which they dont have and now where does this leave those of us waiting for ic4.0 to come to 10.1 user?
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Now they are saying they halted production of the Tab 2 for some upgrades. One of them being a quad core processor with their latest chip.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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I read that also... it definitely has me wondering if this will delay us OG Tab owners from getting the ICS update in May. I have no doubt that the appeal of ICS is a selling point for Samsung and potential Tab-2 customers might settle for the original tab if it gets ICS prior to the release of the Tab-2.
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Probably. That's why I took mine back.
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I'm keeping my 10.1 4G, which it bought used for less than $300. I'll probably still get the GT 2 7.0 for $250 though, since it's wifi only.
Hello,
How are you?
So, I'm thinking about buying a tablet.
My main goal is to have a biggest, more comfortable device for web browsing to complement my galaxy nexus.
I was thinking about a nexus 7, but being too close on size to my nexus, made me consider a 10 inch model.
I liked the fact that the nexus 7 is updated by Google and runs stock android, but there seems to be a good community of support for Samsung tabs, and with ROMs like cm9 and cm10, that might not be the deal breaker.
I also looked at the Acer a700, because of its screen. The high res is really appealing, but the price is around 400.
I can get a sweet deal on a tab 10.1, for 200 Euros. So, is it a good bet today?
Thanks.
Cheers
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
10.1 inch is good for broswe internet go ahead and get ur tab
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is really helpful.
can you tell me your opinion about the difference in PPI from both models, since they both have the same resolution, but the nexus is smaller?
Also, how is the tab for typing with the thumbs in portrait mode?
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A modded 10.1 with performance tweaks is a joy to use. Battery life is sick @ 7000mah too. I have one for myself and one for the wife and they're wonderful. The kernel I'm running is OC'd to 1.4GHz and GPU @ 400 so while it's still not a match for newer devices, 3d games are still running nicely. A build.prop tweak for increasing buffer size will make web browsing even more enjoyable and most custom roms account for that, I've found.
In portrait mode the tab is still a bit wide...if you have long thumbs you shouldn't have any issues. If you were cursed with bitty digits stick with landscape and key the way you normally would.
I don't know anything about the Tegra 3 devices but I can tell you about my experience with the GT7500 . The main reason I got it was for Web browsing and watching video content on my daily commute. I really like using using this device and I may be imagining it but the display seems crisper since ICS updated. If you can get one really cheap I say buy it
I think it is
I think it is an option, is fast, convenient and runs android. The only think i guess should be reconsidered, is the price since with the introduction of the Kindle Fire HD, its price is now prohibitive.
If you can get it for under 250, I would think so. If you're a spec freak, you might prefer a quad core but you'll pay a lot more for a ten incher.
It depends on what you plan on doing on the tablet.
Yes, I can get it under 250 and I just plan on using it for web browsing, tapatalk, some note taking, videos... no gaming. Just maybe the occasional angry birds type of game.
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No. There are better and cheaper options.
ASUS is a better choice..bang for the buck.
Google Nexus is pretty sweet also.
I own these Samsung Galaxy tabs gentlemen...this is an unbiased opinion.
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İn my opinion,in this year (Q4 2012) Galaxy tab 10.1 is still nice tablet.but in 2013 GTab 10.1 become old.my advice is you should not take it.wait 2013 :good:
Hello.
I know it is not state of the art, but all I want is a tablet to web browse on the couch or on the coffee shop.
I am also thinking about an original Motorola xoom. It is almost the same specs as the tab 10.1, but it runs stock android without the need for custom ROMs.
If I get any of the two cheap enough, maybe I could resell them in a couple of months and then pick a better 2013 tablet without much loss.
And until then I could have a nice tablet to browse...
Thoughts?
Does a 1920x1200 screen make a huge difference in browsing experience? Is it worth twice the money?
Cheers! And thanks
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In my opinion the only good thing ever to come from Motorola was their MC68000 CPU chip.
And that is very ancient computer history..
Motorola products do not have good track records.
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Argos have been knocking them out at "half price" in the UK. Mainly 3G models left for home delivery. Likely to be as rare as hens teeth in store. I've ordered a 16GB 3G model for £250 (it's being delivered tomorrow ). Seems like good value to me.
Linky here
Check in store stock at iCheckStock
So, how is the state of CM10 development for the tab 10.1?
Already with project butter and stable?
Cheers
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I can tell you that prior to the ICS update, I was very unhappy with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. It was frustratingly slow, and using it was not a pleasant experience. Then I bought a Nexus 7 and totally fell in love with it. I did end up tweaking it with Nova launcher, but did not root it. After the ICS update I still wasn't happy with the performance of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then I added Nova launcher and the same tweaks as for the Nexus 7. Did not root the Galaxy tablet either. And the performance seems to have improved so I am no longer complaining. However, I have to say that I still rarely use the 10" tablet. For me the 7" form factor and the higher pixel density works better. Or the weight. The 10" tablet never leaves the house, and rarely leaves the bedroom. The 7" tablet goes everywhere. I would recommend giving some thought to what size works for you best. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. The 10" tablet should be better at note taking. I've seen lots of comments that the 10" should be better for videos and web browsing, but that hasn't been my experience. The Nexus 7 seems to have more apps available for it. For example, Flipboard is available for the Nexus 7, but not for the Galaxy tab. (It works fine on the Galaxy tablet, you just can't get the apk from the Google Play store.) If I had $250 to spend and did not have either tablet, I would either buy the Nexus 7, or save up for a better 10" tablet. I don't think the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 is worth $250, not when you can get a tablet that works better for $199.
For the usage you describe either the galaxy tab 10.1 or the xyboard would suffice (the later having microSD expandability). If the Asus Transformer TF300 is in the same price range the it is worthy of a look too (tegra 3), though I'm not sure what the status of development is for that device.
It has taken a long time for development to get to the point that it has for the galaxy tab 10.1 due to how long Samsung decided to wait to release ICS. CM9 development is far along with CM10 still needing work. There are some great devs here as in other device forums.
As for screen resolution one would expect that despite the color accuracy issues of the nexus 7's screen the higher pixel density of that panel would render text better and in my comparison between the two (I own both) that is the case so I would expect no different from a 1080p screen on a 10-inch form factor. That said the 10.1 does have a very nice panel and it's adequate for the use you describe.
Its great that you're doing the research so that you enter into your purchase eyes wide open. Know that you're buying into an aging platform and make sure you can live with the tradeoffs that come with that in order to get the lower price you're looking for.
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I thank you for your insights!
There are really helpful info here!
In regard to the nexus 7, it is a device that is also on my mind. Mainly because as I said, I love my nexus phone and the whole nexus experience of stock android and updates from Google.
Does who own both, how is the web browsing on the 7? Does the higher PPI makes up for the smaller screen?
How is using nexus 7 vs a smartphone like the galaxy nexus? Very different? Or is it a close experience?
Cheers and thanks!
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Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??
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the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3
MarcusSi15: except UI, multi tasking, storage, and stylus support.
nexus runs a phone/phablet UI while the note has a proper tablet UI.
the note has the ability to have certain apps running in the foreground at the same time.
the note also has support for sdxc cards.
and while the nexus can only work with a capacitive stylus, the note comes with a Wacom stylus which is way more accurate.
nexus 10 by far with its screen depth amazing!!!
Easy, buy the nexus. The note 10.1 has a horrible screen on it. My og galaxy tab 10.1 has a better looking screen than the note tablet.
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do youself a favor DONT buy the note 10.1. Im using it now but will return it to buy the nexus 10. screen is bad comparing to nexus 10. software lags...
The Note 10.1 is a great tablet, the screen resolution isnt the highest, but it still looks good. If you in to drawing or writing the Note is the choice, its also quad so gaming is amazing as well, its also does multitasking like a champ.
The Nexus is a good looking tablet too, it depends what you find most appealing, A higher res screen with up to date software, or a specialized tablet that also handles any other task better than most tabs out.
The S-pen is great I want a N10 but dont know if i can give up the S-pen.
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chugglet said:
Hello everyone.
I'm kind of a newbie here.
I joined a long time ago when I had and Advent Vega tab however I have never posted before.
I have the cash in my pocket for a 10" tablet and was looking at either the Galaxy Note 10.1 or the Asus Transformer Infinity.
I managed to finally make my mind up and go for the Note 10.1 and then Google decided to throw a spanner in the works with the Nexus 10!
So, which do I go for??
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galaxy all the way :good:
Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!
Gnote vs nexus 10= n10
To be truthful its like comparing older vs newer
1. Processor: gnote's quad core is nowhere as fast as n10's a15 is next generation arm soc with Mali t604
2. UI: touchwiz is an abomination of common sense, its bloated, ugly, inefficient compared to stock Ui
3. Updates: Samsung is the worst OEM when it comes to update, I am running jb on my gtab 10.1 yet Samsung thinks it does not deserve update, ludicrous! But nexus devices are always first on update
4. Community support: nexus devices are more favored by devs since sources are available and thus more custom ROM and overall hacking
5. Display: since it beats apple, no point talking about it
6. Ram: gnote=1gb, n10= 2gb
7. Unless u want stylus ( which is barely useful), sdcard ( I think 32gb is reasonably priced and should be enough for majority) I think nexus 10 takes the win in every comparison possible
U might enjoy your s3, but why would you get less for you money when there's option for more?
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chugglet said:
Thanks for the replies everyone and as I expected, the opinion is divided.
I see it like this:
The obvious Pro points for the Nexus 10 are the amazing screen, the updated software (including the lack of Touchwiz), Google's obvious work on it and the price.
However the big negative for me is no SD Card support.
The Pros for the Note are the S-Pen, the Quad Core Processor, expandable memory & multi-tasking, I'm also assuming that there will be a software update at some point too.
The negatives are the screen (a lot lower resolution but still ok) & touchwiz (however that can be changed with a different ROM).
Both are built by Samsung and from what I have seen, in grey they don't look that much different!
I currently have an S3 and love it so I think I way be swaying towards the Note!!
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nah the dual core processor in the Nexus 10 outperforms that quad core processor in the Note 10.1. it's even better than the snapdragon S4 pro in the nexus 4... (wonder why a dual core is more powerful? google it...)
also price is a big factor here. the note 10.1 is 100$ more.. lol The real pros of the Note is the SD slot and the pen.the nexus 10 is better in every other aspect.
But hey, it's your money, your call.
I wanted to give my feedback on the matter. I have had the Transformer prime and infinity, have had the Nexus 7 and currently have a SGS 7.7.
The reason I no longer have Asus's Tegra 3 line is that all of them have had slow internal storage which caused crashing problems. I considered the Note 10.1 before deciding to get the Galaxy Tab 7.7. The main reason I didn't get the note was that I felt it was overpriced (given I didn't care for wacom support). With the Nexus 10's release, I believe that even more strongly. At $400 for a 16gb Note 10.1, its a feasable option because expandable memory matters.
Nexus 10 vs Note
Pros:
Processor: The Nexus 10 has Samsung's next generation processor which is faster than the Note 10.1's.
Screen: It has a higher resolution, higher technology screen.
Nexus program: It will stay updated to the newest software for longer (and with effectively no wait time). It will have a larger development community.
Cons:
Nexus program: It lacks a micro sd card reader so memory is limited to 16/32gb.
Non-Note: It lacks wacom stylus support. Samsung's Note software streamlines multitasking split screen.
Thanks for the reply wtgserpant.
Some interesting points.
1. When you say the CPU is nowhere near as fast, will it really be that noticeable bearing in mind one is dual core and the other is quad?
2. RAM on the note is 2gb isn't it?
3. Do the current Note 10.1 ROM's remove Touchwiz (or at least the useless crap out of it)?
4. I agree with the updates comment, my S3 is unbranded and I received JB after most of the Service Providers!
5. The Note is currently £399 in the UK with £50 cashback from Samsung (Making it £349). Not a bad price really?
Oh and completely off of the subject, I have just seen your location as New York. Stay Safe mate.
If you write a lot go with Note 10.1 (handwrite on lectures, at work, taking notes, scribbling, drawing etc.) - nothing can match the Wacom stylus, nothing. If not - Nexus 10.
@chuglet:
Ad. 1. They should be similar in practise, though Nexus 10 will probably be better optimised being Jelly Bean and Nexus. Nexus 10 has much more powerful GPU but it is needed for so many pixels.
AD. 2. Yes, 2GB. Keep in mind Nexus 10 will probably have more memory for GPU so it will be more like 1.5GB in reality - but it should be more than enough.
Ad. 3. Touchwiz is quite nice on Note 10.1. I wouldn't want it removed. But yes, there are ROMs without it.
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!!
Decisions decisions.
I came to work thus morning with the cash in my pocket to get the note but now I'm not sure!
I don't do a lot of writing or drawing but I like the option of having it there if I want to.
I also like all of the obvious plus points of the nexus; updates, processor, price!!
Should I wait until it is actually released and then really come the two?
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galaxy Note 10.1
:good: galaxy Note 10.1
Absolutely Nexus Ten
I have decided to go for the nexus!
I've registered my interest on the play store so hopefully I will be able to pr-order soon!
Thanks for all of the advice!
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the Nexus ten is better in all aspects. the screen is by far better. it has an higher resolution and pixel density than the ipad 3
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I Agree!
Tomorrow I have an upgrade available and am thinking of getting the Note 2. I own the first note and enjoy it. I also own the Note 10.1 and enjoy it but seem to still use the Note 1 more. I mainly use for pictures, Facebook, movies and music plus the occaisional eBook. Not a lot of office work. I do take some notes with Spen work but not daily.
I'm thinking if I get the Note 2 selling the Note 10.1 as here would be a lot of money invested in 2 similar devices. The original note is going to my son.
I am just thinking this through and thought I would throw this out there to see if someone else has thought of uses or thoughts I haven't yet. I'm sure others have both the 2 and 10.1 but for me that seems a little much. I guess I could get the iPhone 5 and keep the 10.1 tablet and have the best of both worlds. I do use GPS on my note phone though. Hmmmmmm.
Please don't flame. I'm seriously just looking for, if it were me I would and their reason. Happy New Year. I guess the other thing to mention, I'm a teacher and a parent that does a lot of running one place to another but I usually leave my tablet at home.
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Seems like your happy with note. It will get upgraded to premium suite as well.
If note can do all u want it to do, why upgrade?? Why not wait for s4?
I like the ability for spen and screen capture on the fly. Basically the 2 has the guts of the 10.1. So I could make that my main device and sell the 10.1 and just pick up a laptop or different tablet like the Surface down the line.
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I'm thinking if I get the Note 2 selling the Note 10.1 as here would be a lot of money invested in 2 similar devices.
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I don't think they are that similar. A 5.5" display might be similar enough to a 7" display to say you can get away with a single device but there's a huge difference between consuming and creating content on the smaller display vs. a 10" display. I had a Teg3 One X that I replaced with a N2 so I could replicate all my files, settings, apps, and content on it and my Note 10.1 and use both the same way including S Note and S Pen. Which I'll reach for depends on what I'm doing. I use the N2 for music, quick e-mails, MMS, and quick browsing. I use the 10.1 for most creation stuff, video playback, the majority of my web surfing, and anything that looks better on a bigger display. If I had to give up one I'd give up the N2. But I’m a heavy productivity user and everyone's needs and uses are different so it's a matter of preference.
Appreciate the input. I'm more of a video, picutre, facebook, audio video consumer with the funny comment here and there with the spen doodle. Maybe a few notes a few times a year is why I'm thinking that the phone maybe enough. Also maybe little to moderate gameplay. I'm not heavy in the production or video editing. I could probably get away with the phone and maybe a 7 inch kindle but they seem too simplified. I like to experiment with custom ROMs, bit short of that I'm a teacher and a Dad has who wants a device to keep me busy at daily school volleyball and basketball practices.
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sdelliott31 said:
Tomorrow I have an upgrade available and am thinking of getting the Note 2. I own the first note and enjoy it. I also own the Note 10.1 and enjoy it but seem to still use the Note 1 more. I mainly use for pictures, Facebook, movies and music plus the occaisional eBook. Not a lot of office work. I do take some notes with Spen work but not daily.
I'm thinking if I get the Note 2 selling the Note 10.1 as here would be a lot of money invested in 2 similar devices. The original note is going to my son.
I am just thinking this through and thought I would throw this out there to see if someone else has thought of uses or thoughts I haven't yet. I'm sure others have both the 2 and 10.1 but for me that seems a little much. I guess I could get the iPhone 5 and keep the 10.1 tablet and have the best of both worlds. I do use GPS on my note phone though. Hmmmmmm.
Please don't flame. I'm seriously just looking for, if it were me I would and their reason. Happy New Year. I guess the other thing to mention, I'm a teacher and a parent that does a lot of running one place to another but I usually leave my tablet at home.
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I was in a similar situation a couple of months ago. I choose to keep my Note 1 for the impending official 4.1.1 update + premium suite. Instead of getting the Note 2, or selling my Note 10.1, i chose to use my upgrade on the LG Optimus G. The raw power, speed, potential of this device is incredible. Sleeper hit of the year imo!
Droid DNA +note 10.1 best of both worlds
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Not sure if I understand what you mean exactly. Are you saying you're not sure if you want to keep the original note 1 phone, and sell the note 10.1 to get the note 2?....as the note 10.1 is too similar to the original note? If that is the case then I'd say it's a totally crazy idea as you'd have two phones of nearly exactly the same size.....And you've just said that you think the note 10.1 is too similar to the original note, so i dont really understand.The original note is getting a firmware upgrade soon so the only difference would be the slightly bigger screen. I think either of the note phones complement the note 10.1
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Markhypnosis said:
Not sure if I understand what you mean exactly. Are you saying you're not sure if you want to keep the original note 1 phone, and sell the note 10.1 to get the note 2?....as the note 10.1 is too similar to the original note? If that is the case then I'd say it's a totally crazy idea as you'd have two phones of nearly exactly the same size.....And you've just said that you think the note 10.1 is too similar to the original note, so i dont really understand.The original note is getting a firmware upgrade soon so the only difference would be the slightly bigger screen. I think either of the note phones complement the note 10.1
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Sorry, ignore my last post. I didn't read the bit about your original note going to your son.
Anyway, I still think the two notes complement each other.
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I'd sell the note 1, upgrade to note 2 and keep the 10.1. I wouldn't been seen watching a movie on a 5 inch. I use my HTC one x for my daily needs, as soon as I get home the note 10.1 comes out and HTC goes to sleep.
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I considered getting a note 2 rather than the note 10.1 to replace my aging tablet. What I finally did was replicate the note 2 in cardboard, with the screen dimensions marked as well. After that, I decided I really wanted the tablet. I'd love to have a note 2 as well, but I can't justify the price since I don't live in an LTE area. If you haven't yet, check out the note 2 in person. Although the screen is a bit longer, it's also narrower. Now that Samsung has announced the update to the note 1, I may look for a decent used note 1.
Thank you all. Just what I was looking for. Things I hadn't thought of. Sometimes I just feel guilty leaving a 500.00 tablet at home. The school I work in That thing would be gone in minutes. I've decided I'm going to look at the Note 2 today. If I get it mess with it for a few days. Then decided to keep or sell the 10.1.
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Well I bought the Note 2 and today. I left a more detailed description on the Note 2 forums. However I think I can find a use for both the 2 and the 10.1. Movies just look so nice on the 10.1. I think Dad is going to spoil himself band keep both.
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sdelliott31 said:
Well I bought the Note 2 and today. I left a more detailed description on the Note 2 forums. However I think I can find a use for both the 2 and the 10.1. Movies just look so nice on the 10.1. I think Dad is going to spoil himself band keep both.
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Don't blame you, wife and I have the tablets and are stealing the kids upgrade in February and getting note 2s. Sorry kids you can keep rocking dinc 2s. Not bad phones for 11 and 8 year olds
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Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
igos2 said:
Hi,
I want to buy an android tablette and I found that the note 10.1 is good, but as it appeared almosr a year now, is it outdated? Should I wait for the next generation, and will be a next generation soon?
Thanks.
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Own two of em for about 4 months and just bought 1 more. finest tablets of my collection. They hold there price and with 2 gigs of ram, pretty sweet device. I own several 10inch tabs and this is the best. Running stock no root and zero problems.
Quite outdated. Wait for the announcement in June. It is already June anyway
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I have 2 I like them. But if you need the best you will be chasing it forever. This thing is tried and true. Does all I need
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I bought this one just a week back .I waited till google I/O to find if the announce a new Nexus 7 - as I wanted a rear camera.Then note 10.1 was the choice ,although more expensive than nexus 7 3G (I paid ~ $465 in Dubai), Its worth.It is with future proof spec .A full HD screen would have been a plus point , But most apps / videos are at HD level (720P) , So I don't see much difference.:good:
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A reasonable assumption is that the next generation will be an incremental upgrade, faster processor, more pixels in camera and screen, question you need to answer is that something you NEED or is it something you WANT? I use mine for note taking, surfing and some posting on fora. So in my case those improvements won't really matter, my choke point is the connection to the net, hence the truth is that while I might want those improvements I don't really need them.
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I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
salmonsushi said:
I doubt that anyone NEED a phone or a tablet to survive.
However I am looking forward to upgrades such as
- Higher resolution screen. Don't give a dam about retina or apple, but my note 2 has the same resolution as my note 10.1. and it just feels blurry on my tablet relatively. Inking with lecturenotes and ezpdfreader don't seem to have smooth edges.
- Can someone please explain why it takes an hour to transfer a 200MB video via bluetooth?
- Occasional choppiness and lag compare to note 2. A faster CPU should help.
- Out of RAM (Don't know why, but 2Gb isn't enough for me)
- Laughable camera
- I think having NFC will be cool, especially for simple stuff like bumping to transfer a photo. I like the Sony idea of pairing with portable speakers too.
- Further reduce weight? Prefer as light as possible as I commute with it every weekday. (well unlikely that Sammy cares)
- Better S Pen API and developer support. Most third party apps with digitizer are honestly disappointing .
- FIX S Note. Stop crashing. Stop sync erroring. Stop locking up half of my notes for no reason. Stop losing my notes. Stop zooming with the touch of my palm even though I selected pen input only. Stop changing to default background when I add a new page. Stop all sorts of irritating garbage that forced me to use lecture notes.
- Multitasking works now and is less buggy. But demanding applications do significantly slow down and become less responsive. like officesuite. Faster CPU should help
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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Find it fine, as was stated before you need to eventually bite the bullet and get something or you'll be chasing the bigger better tablet forever....
In this day and age 6 months is obsolete, if not faster, so waiting for a new thing to come out, then waiting so its not too expensive means that you will never get that tablet you want/need because there's always better on the horizon...
What's the saying, give them bread today and they're happy today but promise them cake tomorrow and they'll go for another day...
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I see it as improvement every year, which is a good thing for the customer. Rumours suggest the successor of 10.1 will be announced in June. So chances are people are patient enough. Of course it is your right to buy it now and feel obsolete within a month. Usually I am happy to wait between 1-3 months. More than that I will just buy it now. No regrets and no hard feelings.
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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Widgets accumulate quite a lot. Live Wallpaper. Kaspersky is another ram hogger. Launch a few intensive apps and try multitasking, there goes my 2 gb ram. Why do you seem so surprise when one game on Google Play from Gameloft could be 3 Gb in total size and take proportionally significant RAM?
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igos2 said:
Thank you for the answers all.. I agree with you all, the pros and cons..
Let's talk about the price, the Note 10.1 3G I have found is about 500$, what do you think would be the price of a future Note is it's first weeks?
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I think that is the price point Sammy gona stick with. That is, sell the new 10.1 for 500 dollars (if that's the price for ur country) and bump the old note price down
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2GB isn't enough? What do you use your tablet for?
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haha, indeed. 2GB is more than enough. Sounds like that Note 10.1 has some problems, because I don't recall any lag nor crashing on my device. S note works very well and camera is also usable, much better than Note 8.0, which is weird.
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Forget $500 now, what was the price back in August last year? That's what the price will be for the new Note.... I paid $800 for a 32gb N8000... Was the best price around. I don't know what the price for it would be now as the ONLY versions left seem to be the 16gb N8000.. They're around the $500 mark but were $650 when 1st released....
Wifi only different prices again....
It is outdated but still a better tablet than many others on the market. The main thing is a low res screen but given that cpus at the time could not support 1080p properly , 720p screen was the right decision.
Another thing I find is that 16gb internal memory is not enough (and I believe there were no other options at the time of release)
Cant wait to upgrade though.
Following samsung 's pattern though, the 16gb will be released and the 32gb will be released about 1 - 2 months later... 64gb is a myth....
What these manufacturer's need to understand is that because of the extras they throw in, the OS is using more and more space. My SGS3 used up 5gb for the system os but the SGS4 is now using 7gb... I know its only 3gb more but when memory is an issue that is huge....
Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Who knows what will be introduced (not released) in June. If there is a tablet, everything I've hear says that it will be a Tab 3 10.1, basically with a slightly faster CPU than the Note 10.1 but with a slightly lesser camera and the same resolution. Hold me back. While I'm lukewarm about the resolution on the Note 10.1, and its camera pretty much sucks out loud (what Sammy tab cameras don't?), it's still a great tab and not at all "outdated."
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Yes why can't they put better cameras on tabs. Anyhow, I find Note 10.1 camera fairly usable in good light and for Skyping no problem. But in the new Note 8.0 is much worse...
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I bought the note 10.1 and a week later returned it. On a stock Rom and custom one I felt the performance to be sub par especially when compared to an iPad. Scrolling through apps was often choppy and I felt like for the premium cost it should be smoother plus a lot of the apps I used aren't optimized for tablets. So I'm waiting to see what's going to be released in June but in the meantime I'm seriously considering the Surface RT
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lol. there is nothing choppy on 4.1.2 . smooth as butter and nowhere behind ipad, surface or any other tablet. screen resolution is subpar but you have an active stylus.
best tablet ever for productivity !
maybe the new windwos tablets are going to be better since they support active pens and you can use onenote, mathlab and other important apps. however these windows tablets cost twice the amount of money in comparison to a note 10.1
Yeah dude I dunno, I'm a fan of Android for sure. I got a Note 2 and love it, and I thought I would love the 10.1 but compared to the experience I get on the phone and what I get on the iPad (3rd gen) the note 10.1 was choppy even with 4.1.2.
I even rooted it installed a rom and it still felt choppy even within native apps like the calendar. I choose it over other tablets because of the S-Pen but honestly as much as I think I would use it, I never do.
So now I think I would value the Microsoft office suite and a desktop class internet browser found in the surface over an android tablet, especially when android system updates rarely happen and most android apps are not optimized for larger screens.
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