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Now that the AT&T Galaxy S3 is rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726960
My favorite thing to do after a first root is to use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware. Here's the list of stuff I took off:
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Flipboard
Media Hub
Music Player
My Files
My AT&T
S Memo
S Suggest
Play Books
Play Movies
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YP Mobile
My list is just from a quick glance. If anyone else knows of other bloatware items that can be safely removed please post and add them.
Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.
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Flipboard will stay on mine. Love that app.
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I agree. I would remove the entire list above except for Flipboard. If you set it up to just the things you're interested in, it works really well.
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII
manny05 said:
Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII
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Yeah, totally and it wont void your warranty or tip the counter
How do you disable it? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone
Brianaro said:
How do you disable the? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just moved from the iPhone
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Settings/application manager/all then just choose the one you want to disable and click "disable" at the top. If it updated itself, click "uninstall updates" first, then "disable" will be available
First run around, give it time u will learn everything. Dont rush, read and understand the language spoken, the software and its uses.
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Can't you just disable it. Doesnt it do the same thing as removing it or freezing?
sent from my GALAXY SIII
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there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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What is the difference between freezing and disabling? I always freeze using titanium backup.
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How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.
paleman27 said:
How do you use Titanium Backup to delete all the bloatware?
Thanx for taking my question.
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Have to be rooted and then either freeze or delete individual apps under the backup/restore section.
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Here is what I have frozen / disabled:
All Share Controller
All Share Play
All Share Service
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
Bluetooth Share
Bubbles
Clock
Clock Funky
Clock Modern
ChatOn
DeviceHelp
Deep Sea
Dual Clock Analog
Dual Clock Digital
FlipBoard
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Search
Google+
Kies Air
Kies Via Wifi
Live Wallpaper Picker
Luminous Dots
Media Hub
Mobile Print
myAT&T
Phase Beam
S Suggest
Samsung Keyboard
Voice Recorder
Voice Search
Windy Weather
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPmobile
Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.
johnnyutah22 said:
Can someone clarify something for me? On my other rooted devices if you deleted bloat then you couldn't get OTA updates to either download or install. Is this the case with Samsung devices? I usually just freeze with Titanium and restore when an update rolls out.
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There is no reason to delete with these phones anymore. Freezing is perfectly fine and achieves the same thing. Ota will probably work the same so better safe than sorry lol.
Sent from my Axiom MAXX!!
drawde40599 said:
there are some things u cant disable , so no its not the same , i removed all at&t crap and most of the samsung crap and phone is so much faster . (actual use not stupid speed tests )
dont things that are "disabled come back on after reboot anyway?
and to the guys that are worried about warranty i dont understand y you would even come to a site like xda ?? ive never had a none rooted phone so forgive me for not understanding .
ive never had any warranty issues with htc or samsung, ive sent my bootloader unlocked nexus one and nexus s , and rooted skyrocket in with no issues (directly to manufacture )....
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Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
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With an att phone, u return it to att, not samsung. All newer Samsung phones have a flash counter that logs every time its been modified software wise so if it's been rooted, they can tell, the warranty is void, and if something is legitimately wrong with it, you get ****. In fact, you will still be on the hook for your contract so either cough up 550$ for a new phone or $350 to back out of the contract. Maybe they will catch it, maybe not but that's a pretty expensive gamble to take
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I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...
Here is my list. Keep in mind that I use my market-purchased apps for texting, phone/contacts, calendar and a few other things.
So I've disabled some things that other folks shouldn't.
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Messages
AT&T Navigator
AT&T SOftware update
ChatON
Clock (digital)
Clock (funky)
CLock (modem)
Contacts 4.0.4
DirectShareManager
Dual clock (analog)
Dual clock (digital)
Email 4.0
FWUpgrade 1.2.0
Gmail
Google+
[BOOKMARKS] Internet
Kies air 2.1
Kies via WiFi
Media Hub
[SMS/MMS PREFS]
Mobile print
My files
My Uploads
myAT&T
Nearby devices
News Daemon
Phase beam 1.0
Samsung keyboard
SNS 1.01
Tags 1.1
Talk 4.0.4
TalkBack
Yahoo Finance
Yahoo News
YPMobile
I'm far from done.
This was just the quick & easy stuff.
I'm getting better battery life than with any phone I've had before.
Last one was a GSII Skyrocket.
raqball said:
Agree.. I have never had an issue either...
I have warrantied numerous phones to AT&T that were rooted.. I have NEVER had one denied or been charged.. That's not to say it can't or won't happen because I know they can but I have never seen or heard of anyone getting denied...
IMHO, disabling via the hone system is the better option simply because the disable sticks on reboot... I however still need root because I for one can't live without AdFree...
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The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...
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The flash counter was implemented on samsung phones since the tab so it's very new and AFAIK, only samsung does it. Up to now, someone who knew what they were doing would have to make a determination if the phones software was tampered with, this system does not need anyone to make that determination. It will be no different than the moisture sensor...
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There is a flash counter on the SGS2 as well and Chainfire was able to figure out a way to reset it (Triangle Away app). I'm sure it will be possible with this phone too eventually.
According to the comments, it works on the international S3 already.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Hello everybody, first post here but been a lurker here for the past few weeks with my new s3.
Ever since I moved overseas from the US their has been many limitations of the web, the play store in my country, i dont mean to be mean, is complete $%#@, most of the s3 owners are perverts, the most downloaded app is something about Naked Ladies. Anyway, I have a rooted phone and I really don't want to use any kind of VPN, their slow, unreilable, and make me put on a passcode which I don't want.
If their is any tweak or hack to get the US playstore that would be wonderful to share, plus I have a US credit card and make sure my phone doesn't use my location services.
Thanks for reading (=
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Hello everybody, first post here but been a lurker here for the past few weeks with my new s3.
Ever since I moved overseas from the US their has been many limitations of the web, the play store in my country, i dont mean to be mean, is complete $%#@, most of the s3 owners are perverts, the most downloaded app is something about Naked Ladies. Anyway, I have a rooted phone and I really don't want to use any kind of VPN, their slow, unreilable, and make me put on a passcode which I don't want.
If their is any tweak or hack to get the US playstore that would be wonderful to share, plus I have a US credit card and make sure my phone doesn't use my location services.
Thanks for reading (=
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Play store should use localization from the firmware, me thinks. Also, checks build.prop.
If you got a international SGS3 one easy solution would be to flash a European (UK could be best for you) firmware and CSC, then setting localisation to UK. Or, you can flash a AOSP firmware which should be location "free" (except for localisation in settings for UI/Keyboard etc). The AOSP/AOKP builds around are still not 100% perfect though, if you care about such things.
Google for market enabler...
it might give you the apps available in the US but not the services like books, music, movies...
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Daelyn said:
Play store should use localization from the firmware, me thinks. Also, checks build.prop.
If you got a international SGS3 one easy solution would be to flash a European (UK could be best for you) firmware and CSC, then setting localisation to UK. Or, you can flash a AOSP firmware which should be location "free" (except for localisation in settings for UI/Keyboard etc). The AOSP/AOKP builds around are still not 100% perfect though, if you care about such things.
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If you can, may please post a link of one?
And what if you already have a custom rom?
I used Market enabler but used a VPN to get free scrabble from US play store but uninstalled them after that, but can still see scrabble in account
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Market enabler is the way to go. The play store region is determined by a combination of carrier & country code from your SIM + geo-IP.
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Market Enabler PLUS DroidVPN .
Tapatalked from my GT-I9300
Here ya go... enjoy. BTW what country are you in?
http://db.tt/fAIzvXTc
I'm in China and I have the same problem. Market enabler allows you to SEE the apps from another country but you still can't buy them. So it's a little bit anoying. If you go on Google play from a computer you can see all the apps.
I've bought apps fine with the market enabler.
Hey Everyone,
I maintain a website, randomphantasmagoria.com, where I maintain a firmware archive of official production Google ROMs for every Nexus and Google Experience device from the OG Droid onward. I plan to archive the Google Experience One ROMs as well, assuming the ROMs actually come from Google and not from HTC.
If someone is buying one, I'd love if you could help me out with something. I need some information on the phone, and you will need to get it as soon as you turn the phone on for the first time, before doing any out-of-the-box system updates.
Here is the info I'll need:
1. The bootloader version. You will have to reboot into bootloader (fastboot) mode to do this. When you do, the bootloader version should be displayed on screen.
2. The baseband version from Settings | About Phone.
3. The value of ro.build.fingerprint from /system/build.prop.
4. IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE NOTIFICATION: Before applying the update, do the following. Turn on USB debugging after the notification appears on screen. Go into Settings | Developer Options and select "Take Bug Report". Your phone will email a text file to the email address on your Google account. Open that text file and search it for ".zip" (without the quotes) and post the URL to the ZIP file.
This will be unbelievably helpful.
Thank you in advance!
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Any takers for when they get the phone?
oldblue910 said:
Hey Everyone,
I maintain a website, randomphantasmagoria.com, where I maintain a firmware archive of official production Google ROMs for every Nexus and Google Experience device from the OG Droid onward. I plan to archive the Google Experience One ROMs as well, assuming the ROMs actually come from Google and not from HTC.
If someone is buying one, I'd love if you could help me out with something. I need some information on the phone, and you will need to get it as soon as you turn the phone on for the first time, before doing any out-of-the-box system updates.
Here is the info I'll need:
1. The bootloader version. You will have to reboot into bootloader (fastboot) mode to do this. When you do, the bootloader version should be displayed on screen.
2. The baseband version from Settings | About Phone.
3. The value of ro.build.fingerprint from /system/build.prop.
4. IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE NOTIFICATION: Before applying the update, do the following. Turn on USB debugging after the notification appears on screen. Go into Settings | Developer Options and select "Take Bug Report". Your phone will email a text file to the email address on your Google account. Open that text file and search it for ".zip" (without the quotes) and post the URL to the ZIP file.
This will be unbelievably helpful.
Thank you in advance!
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Just a thought. Perhaps this request may be better in the android general section as everybody hear already owns a One so not many will be able to afford to own both.
Also, I suspect that when this device is released, the information you require will be readily available on xda.
bobsie41 said:
Just a thought. Perhaps this request may be better in the android general section as everybody hear already owns a One so not many will be able to afford to own both.
Also, I suspect that when this device is released, the information you require will be readily available on xda.
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When the device is released, based on my past experiences with Nexus devices, it's not a given that the originally shipping firmware info will be available on XDA, unfortunately. The overwhelming majority of people turn their phone on for the first time, see an OTA notification out of the box, and just update it without giving a second thought to the fact that the current firmware info could be useful. haha
But yeah, if nobody indulges me here, I'll probably ask in the Android general section as well.
Isn't HTC archiving the roms themselves? I read that they were going to allow all current Ones to change over to the Google experience edition.
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vash1053 said:
Isn't HTC archiving the roms themselves? I read that they were going to allow all current Ones to change over to the Google experience edition.
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^^^^^This is great if it's true
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^^^^^This is great if it's true
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I agree but I haven't heard that anywhere and I would very much doubt it. Would love to be wrong though.
bobsie41 said:
I agree but I haven't heard that anywhere and I would very much doubt it. Would love to be wrong though.
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And even if they did, there is no guarantee they'd have the original shipping firmware archived, especially if there's an OTA update out of the box. All I really need is the information in the first post for the shipping firmware. From that point forward, it'll be easy to get all the info for the subsequent updates because XDA will be abuzz with it every time there's an OTA.
I'm looking at getting one, if I can trick the US Play Store to take my Canadian credit card... if so, I can try and get this information for you.
Thanks, man!
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Arbelac said:
I'm looking at getting one, if I can trick the US Play Store to take my Canadian credit card... if so, I can try and get this information for you.
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Same here, if Google will take the card one is mine. Then I'll gladly share the info.
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Disregard this entire thread. This is an HTC ROM, not a Google ROM. It's been verified. For the purposes of my website, I'm not interested. Thanks everyone!
Has HTC push the patch? Samsung already roll out security patches to S4. I Just scanned, my ONE is unpatched/vulnerable.
Here’s How You Can Check If Your Android Device Is Patched Against The Master Key Exploit.http://www.redmondpie.com/check-if-your-android-device-is-patched-against-the-master-key-exploit/
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the Google Edition roms are patched
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the Google Edition roms are patched
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THe sense based roms have not been patched yet but when i reached out to them they said that it will be resolved soon with a update. They could not give me an ETA on when it would be coming out but assured me they take it very seriously and are working hard to get it rolled out.
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THe sense based roms have not been patched yet but when i reached out to them they said that it will be resolved soon with a update. They could not give me an ETA on when it would be coming out but assured me they take it very seriously and are working hard to get it rolled out.
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That app says I'm patched and I'm running InsertCoin with the latest elementalX. I wonder if the master key patch is in the kernel. If so, that makes sense.
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It appears 4.2.2 build/soft no. 2.24.401.1 / HTC 5.34 is patched as well :good:
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It appears 4.2.2 build/soft no. 2.24.401.1 / HTC 5.34 is patched as well :good:
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What CID and OTA or custom Rom?
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Ye in the last OTA it is patched. The 4.2.2
My One is "patched." I don't download warez, steal paid apps, or install third-party app stores that are untrusted.
I have no sympathy for anyone who does the above and gets their phone jacked up.
BTW Can someone give us a technical (not too technical) explanation of what is this ?
Thanks.
KekeJr said:
BTW Can someone give us a technical (not too technical) explanation of what is this ?
Thanks.
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Applications are cryptographically signed. The idea is that another software house or or anybody else can't come up with an "update" to that app, as the signature will be different.
The exploit allows exactly that to happen.
Lets say you download Google maps v7 from the internet because you're impatient, and you install it over the top of the existing one. In theory, if it succeeds, it must have come from Google and hasn't been tampered with to install a Trojan or virus or whatever.
With this exploit, the apk can be modified whilst retaining the same signature. Basically you can't trust downloads that didn't come from the play store until the exploit is patched.
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Basically you can't trust downloads that didn't come from the play store
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Fixed.
This is, and has been, true for every single Android "security issue, virus alert, malware warning," etc that's ever existed.
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Applications are cryptographically signed. The idea is that another software house or or anybody else can't come up with an "update" to that app, as the signature will be different.
The exploit allows exactly that to happen.
Lets say you download Google maps v7 from the internet because you're impatient, and you install it over the top of the existing one. In theory, if it succeeds, it must have come from Google and hasn't been tampered with to install a Trojan or virus or whatever.
With this exploit, the apk can be modified whilst retaining the same signature. Basically you can't trust downloads that didn't come from the play store until the exploit is patched.
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First i want to thank you !
Second: ....so, basically this means that it was not that BAD... as the media said !
We all knew that only Play store has trustable content.
Thanks, again !
This patch is in a play store update not an Android update. I have it in play store 4.1.10, there is an app which lets you check I think it's called bluebox or something.you can also check in Google settings if you have an option to verify apps.
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Fixed.
This is, and has been, true for every single Android "security issue, virus alert, malware warning," etc that's ever existed.
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That's funny, because the app store is littered with adware and malware. Just a few days ago, there was an app in the top 20 that was clearly malware, and it remained there for weeks before (presumably) being pulled off. As a general rule, I don't download any apps that require the "run at startup" or "install shortcuts" permissions, unless I fully trust the developer. By the way, there's an easy solution; Google could let us control our own privacy settings (like every other OS on the market), but then again, that would eat into their bottom line After all, Google's business model is to literally steal user data and sell it to others.
unremarked said:
Fixed.
This is, and has been, true for every single Android "security issue, virus alert, malware warning," etc that's ever existed.
Sent from my HTC One
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It's easy to put malicious apps on the play store since there's no review process like apple, but things tend to get flagged quickly.
Basically don't install a calculator app that has full phone/internet/device permissions
The android security model is actually quite good IMO, there's been some exploits but everybody has them (not just android) and they get patched relatively quickly. Potential exploits aside it's actually quite good.
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That's funny, because the app store is littered with adware and malware. Just a few days ago, there was an app in the top 20 that was clearly malware, and it remained there for weeks before (presumably) being pulled off.
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Really? What app was that? I mean, I get annoyed at Candy Crush Saga spam too, but I hardly consider it malware.
WhatsAUsername said:
By the way, there's an easy solution, Google could let us control our own privacy settings (like every other OS on the market), but then again, that would eat into their bottom line After all, Google's business model is to literally steal user data and sell it to others.
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You're kidding yourself if you think Apple or Microsoft isn't collecting as much data about you as they can and doing what they want with it. Beyond that, I always take point with folks who accuse any company of "stealing your information." They're not. You're freely giving them access to it (as outlined in that Terms of Service/ELEU agreement you don't read) to utilize their services. If you don't want them to have your info, then don't share your info with them.
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It's easy to put malicious apps on the play store since there's no review process like apple, but things tend to get flagged quickly.
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Halfway true. It's more difficult than you think to get malicious apps on the Play store. Most of the "successful" attacks have been from someone uploading the 1.0 version of their app(which is perfectly clean, and passes inspection by Google Bouncer) then pushes an update to it with some of the malicious code. As you noted, it usually gets flagged and removed at this point. The other way I've heard of people getting "infected" from apps off the Play store is when the author ties their ads into a nasty website, tricks the user into clicking on it, then further tricks them into downloading an unsigned/untrusted APK.
Yup, as long as your not doing some silly things like getting you apps from the Pirate Bay or Joes crazy world of underground apps you will be more or less safe.
godutch said:
This patch is in a play store update not an Android update. I have it in play store 4.1.10, there is an app which lets you check I think it's called bluebox or something.you can also check in Google settings if you have an option to verify apps.
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I don't think the update patch is on play store. Latest update scan tell's you to Ask your device vendor for update. So it should be security update OTA from HTC?
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alanchai said:
I don't think the update patch is on play store. Latest update scan tell's you to Ask your device vendor for update. So it should be security update OTA from HTC?
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Check your play store version I have 4.1.10 and I am patched
I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
KNOX doesn't bother me as regards losing warranty. It has stopped me from rooting for the first time ever for fear of resale consequences. I just know that if I sell it on eBay with knox tripped and I do disclose it in my description people will be asking for a lower price whereas if I don't mention it the buyer will be contacting me a week later moaning that I didn't tell him I'd tripped knox. A real potential headache that I can't be bothered with so samsung have finally succeeded in stopping me rooting my device one way or another.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you pay for papyrus you can backup to Dropbox. Also, updating with Odin you won't lose any information. I didn't wipe before updating and I have no issues whatsoever.
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A couple of reasons...
The N10.1-14 is a productivity/creation device; at least Samsung's marketing that way. Some people do actually connect to secure networks and more and more are reading the KNOX chip for authentication. I personally use KNOX and three of the five secure networks I connect to are KNOX enabled.
The question of warranty support on devices with tripped KNOX flags is kind of grey. Not everyone wants to personally test Samsung's warranty policies.
Rooted devices can't use AllShare Cast, have DRM issues with certain apps, can't play DRM content acquired from Samsung Hub, and can't receive OTA updates. Xposed can overcome some of that but not everyone wants a "Franken-phone."
Regional ROMs have very different feature sets. A personal example. Someone here was raving about the performance improvements of the new P601 ROM for Guatemala so I tried it. They failed to mention it was a carrier ROM (Claro), all the stock app icons were replaced with crappy looking "Claro" interpretations, 500MB of non-removable demo games were installed, and Samsung Hub no longer supported anything but books. When I flashed back to the Trinidad ROM the Guatemala ROM either overlaid or removed a file causing an indexing FC loop. I had to completely wipe and rebuild my tablet to get back to where I started in the first place. My tablets are typically from Trinidad which serves the Caribbean and parts of Central and South America and have most of the North American features enabled. I never use Asian ROMs, Eastern European ROMs, Latin American ROMs (other than Brazil) or any carrier ROM from anywhere. Both because of what's missing and what's needlessly included.
None of this matters to people who bought their N10.1-14 as a piece of h/w but does to those of us that use and value its features. Probably 1/3 here actually appreciate the stock features, 1/3 hate TW and Samsung's proprietary apps, and the other 1/3 are somewhere in between. To each their own.
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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I use the wifi+3g version of the note 10.1(2014). I am not going to risk updating until someone else does it and shows me screenshots of the update not ****ing up their device in anyway. Till then,fingers are tightly crossed!
dustfinger314 said:
If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
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I get an error trying to purchase the in app backup option. I'm in the usa
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pierrekid said:
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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poplectic said:
Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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And this is one of the positives of root...a nandroid backup! Before any update I do a nandroid backup in twrp so should anything go wrong, I just restore and it comes back exactly as it was when baked up.
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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pierrekid said:
Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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If there is risk in bricking my tablet from an official firmware, will it still void my warranty by updating?
Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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thachosenone said:
Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Root has been available since October.
Just want to clarify. You guys are talking about the KK update on P600 right?
poplectic said:
Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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I know it sucks :/ I've always rooted and ran custom roms on my devices going back to my S1 and HTC desire. I don't fear the potential warranty issues myself, its just the resale of it is going to be 10x more difficult FYI I've never held on to a device for more than 2 years.
toyanucci said:
I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I am waiting. Reports are that game emulators are slower for some reason with Kitkat and that besides video is a key reason I have this device. Can not be bothered to go through the root process either.
Not seeing the value add verses the risk with a $550 device.