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From my experience, I have received better battery life, reception and speed with the .23 radio, since upgraded the spl with haykuro's new one, I have been a bit afraid to downgrade the radio on my phone (running Ion as of today, amazing!). I was wondering if I am the only one who experienced this? And yeah, I did search the forums, however, the thread that was previously up could not be continued as it was no longer a valid link (found the google cache of it).
For those that have tried the .23 radio, what build are you using? Also, can the radio affect applications? I know that from my WinMo days it could, and obviously from our experience with the new spl, it can also in here, but what about the .23 radio with 1.5 ROMs?
What are your experiences with the differences in the sapphire (.23) radio and the newer .26I one? If that thread before was locked or removed and that is the reason why the link is no longer valid, I apologize to the mods and you can lock this thread, I just wanted to continue the discussion on this topic, as if we are getting better reception and battery life from a different radio, why take a step back?
-Brandon
I had the radio 23 on my device and the bluetooth in my car doesn't work with the Dream.. I saw the contacts list, I could receive a call, but I was not able to make a call at all... After upgrading to the new radio everithing goes well, and now bluetooth works correctly! so IMHO the new radio is far better than the old one!
Where to download .23 radio? Links on Haykuros site is not working so there might be some trouble with it?
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
I'm looking around and can't find the .23 radio. Do you have a link?
Here ya go uploaded just for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/238547044/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
NexVision said:
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
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i'm in an EDGE area -- 26I seems to have increased my battery life.
maybe it does different things on different handsets?!
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
xavier6303 said:
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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Agreed. .26 always has me switching all the time and it's pretty annoying. Makes the Market a real pain.
I also like .23 A LOT better since it was significantly faster; unfortunately .26I will be required for Hero and it's required for 6.0r1 so I'm stuck with it
It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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Interesting, though it makes a lot of sense, I don't know why I always thought the two were inclusive. Wasn't there something about the new SPL bricking non .26I phones?
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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I'm in Miami and I get 3G, Edge, etc switching all the time as well. Very disappointed in Tmob down here. It's especially bad around Sunset/87th ave area.
Im in Jupiter and I only get edge and wifi..... :/
I am still running original Cupcake. Is it sufficient to use a Goldcard to flash different Radios? Or do I need Root and/or a different SPL?
I have BT issues with original Cupcake Radio .26I, so need a different Radio.
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I flashed this to my Eris and it seems to have faster data speeds and better reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657896
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
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i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
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As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
I recommend against flashing non-Eris specific radios.
Do it at your own risk.
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This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
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It COULD brick your phone... I told myself I would never flash radio images when I gained root. I'm fine with roms and themes thank you very much.
kyrumo71 said:
As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
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Yeah, that's not true dude. Flashing an incorrect radio update CAN completely brick your phone. Flashing a radio update updates your SPL. If the SPL isn't compatible with your phone/kernel, it could very well completely ruin your phone beyond recoverable.
You're lucky, but for future reference, it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio update except one that's been tested and working with your phone and kernel.
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i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio
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GrdLock said:
it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio
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so awesome
This is why I felt comfortable with flashing the radio...
The ONLY reason I flashed this radio is due to the fact that others did this with no bad side effects (so far). Also, toastcfh has tested other heroc radios on an Eris with no bad side effects (so far) as well as done some good research for us by flashing the radios and seems to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to them.
I'm not authorizing that you should go flashing "any 'ol radio" but heroc and desirec radios seem to be created with the intention of being used on Sprint and Verizon according to research by toastcfh.
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now for the question about why some radios say heroc instead of eris...
the heroc radio are just that... heroc radios from sprint. its a cdma radio so it works the same as verizon radio. dont believe me?! do a strings | grep on all the radios and u will see they are all using both sprint and verizon logins and such. also as right now im running the latest radio which is the heroc one. everything works fine and its the one ive had best results with on both my Sprint Hero and my wifes Verizon Eris. although others may find better results with other versions.
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Just make sure you know that just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean you won't find that underlying control signal some day.
sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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No, only GSM carriers use SIM cards. Sprint is CDMA.
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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I believe that was/is a bug with the nexus lock mod. I remember when lwp mod first came out I tried it and noticed the sim card message. I have not gone back to that since so I can't be 100% sure.
well whatever it was it went away after i did a restore so alls good
Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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yeah that's what doesn't make sense to me. the rooted phone says it has a better signal strength, but I'm only getting 2 3G bars (at most!).
I would like to test it but I am unable to find the original 2.32.40.11.09 radio image.
@above
metering has changed in more recent radios. aka bars vs signal strength is different.
soooo is this a yes or no go for flashing?
I tried this out, no noticeable difference in signal strength or speed where I am. Flashed it back to the newest ERIS radio...
Success! Flashed my 1st ROM and 1st Radio. I know that to the guru's here that's no big deal but it took a lot of nerve to risk my $500 investment to the mercy of my newbieness and potential to brick it.
Now I have a few more in-depth questions for the very helpful staff around here.
I flashed Radio Leo RADIO 2.07.50.27_2 on a suggestion I saw in a thread here that stated it was the best to use on AT&T in the US. I had the stock Radio at first. I am running Artemis v331_0409_WWE which seems very well behaved and has just about all I need less the typical bloatware.
My question(s)...
What is the difference in features/performance between the stock Telstra Radio, the generic OEM radio from HTC, and the radio I have flashed? Should I be seeing any sort of improvements?
I ask this because I see all the radios published for downloading but not much on specifics as to features or benefits.
I am also interested in forcing my HD2 to stay (forced) on 3G and stop dancing back and forth between 3G and EDGE. Is that possible?
I have good signals for both 3G and EDGE but sometimes the EDGE is stronger and it drops down to it and screwing up my connection speed to a crawl.
I know that in the TMO ROM on a TMO HD2 it had the ability to select the bands (at least that's what I recall). Do any of the Radio Gods around here know how to do this or any Cooks know if this is even possible?
Any answers on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Answered my own question
After some creative searching I found an answer to the "forcing 3G" question.
Why HTC buried the band settings in a phone menu beats me. But, I found the answer. I was hoping it would have been in a more logical place like wireless connections, but hey... what do I know.
I'd still appreciate some specifics on my radio questions as I'm not looking forward to flashing every conceivable radio to see which one works if I can at least narrow it down by getting some recommendations for the best one to use on AT&T.
there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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Wait, you're getting 3G on ATT with the TMOUS? How are you forcing it to 3G? I thought we were stuck using Edge!
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I did not say anything about 3G on TMO, the thread is regarding the T9193 (Telstra), not TMO branded.
Yes, I am getting 3G on AT&T, but its with a T9193. TMO's version has different hardware with a different Radio Chip frequency. Flashing does not change that since it is hard coded in the Radio chip.
Sorry.
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there are no differences between those three radios except for version.when you are trying radios you need to run them au least a day if not two to get any idea for comparison.
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If there are no differences then why are there different versions? Doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing your point but I am curious as to why a new version Radio is released if there are no differences. That would be like Microsoft releasing Windows 7 version xxxx12345.0 and then releasing version xxxx12345.678.1 and doing so for no apparent reason.
From what I've read, there must be a difference if the performance is different so it would indicate to me that there must be some tweaks on some parameters. I'm trying to find out what those parameters are and what they affect.
Oh well! That'll teach me to read more closely!
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I've been reading a bunch and I'm kinda curious about the radio (baseband) firmware on the MyTouch 4G--or on Android phones in general if they aren't device-specific. Can anyone provide some good resources on the subject? What do they do, how do they work, and so forth?
Additionally, are there other radios that work on the MyTouch 4G? If so, how do they differ and what benefits do some have over others? How does someone flash a new radio to the device?
This should be moved to Q&A if it hasn't already.
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i'm under the impression that you came from a WM phone cause i know on my TP1 and VX6800 you could interchangably use verizon and sprint and some other radio roms. though this thought has perplexed me as i havent seen any info on radios on the MT4G. i guess i'll sub this and see what happens
Radios are indeed device specific, in some cases OS specific. Attempting to flash to a random radio off another device will almost certainly net you a brick. You should only use radios made for the MT4G and the version that the rom you have chosen recommends.
I wasn't even aware there was a new radio version out for the MT4G?
A radio is flashed the same way as a rom, just boot into recovery and flash the update.zip.
I'm not sure how to fully explain what the radio firmware actually does, but I know its not something to tinker with.
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Its like every freaking time I try to use XDA search to find my own post it fails, WTF. I don't feel like retyping it at 2AM ill edit this post later on when search works again and post it.
UPDATE: For god sake its still out.
Anyways radio normally controls your wireless interface gps, voice, data, wifi, bluetooth ect. Along with power and other memory functions whichs as stated you mingle with you will certainly brick it. Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
It seems like, in case of newer HTC phones (such as G2 and MT4G), radio firmware also controls emmc read/write capablities of the chip (don't quote me on that) so most definitely NOT a good idea to tinker with it.
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Far as radio rom goes I too when first came here was looking for master radio thread as only radio I found is the stock one so not much dev going there.
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Errr, has any Android developer ever modified a radio image before? As far back as G1 days I cannot remember any of them touching this. I do know some find leaked new ones or ones from different countries and posting them, but not modified.
Switching radio images is not recommended as it, along with your SPL (bootloader) are the 2 images that can brick your phone. Most people will NOT flash their radio unless its a huge improvement to your phone.
Thanks for the responses fellas. I don't plan to screw around with the radio on my phone, it just seemed like there wasn't much information available about the topic in general, and I'm genuinely interested in knowing how stuff works. Any resources or links on the subject are appreciated.
Hey i updated my Mytouch 4G to the Galnet Miui 4.0.1 and the battery support kind of sucks badly with the radio i got i guess i need extreme help in finding the perfect radio and spl for my phone that includes wi-fi phone signal blue tooth and battery life.
so im up for oppions on which radio and spl would be best and if you have an answer please post a link with it thanks ")
WiFi and Bluetooth have absolutely nothing to do with radio (baseband). They're governed solely by the kernel.
If you have no problems in phone reception - you're looking at the wrong place. SPL has no meaning, it's HBOOT (bootloader), doesn't matter for your battery at all.
The ROM that you flashed takes a lot of power, but you're looking at the wrong things to change that. You could try some other compatible kernels with it instead, and leave the bootloader and radio alone.
^ +1..... But I would suggest that you update to the latest Gingerbread radio anyways.
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Hey i updated my Mytouch 4G to the Galnet Miui 4.0.1 and the battery support kind of sucks badly with the radio i got i guess i need extreme help in finding the perfect radio and spl for my phone that includes wi-fi phone signal blue tooth and battery life.
so im up for oppions on which radio and spl would be best and if you have an answer please post a link with it thanks ")
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Stop Twittering and Facebooking all day long and the battery life will go up.
#justsaying.
lols thanks but i dont facebook or twitter its sort of a large waste of time im busy messing with iphones and etc. lolss but good comment and @jack_R1 i could have swore i read in a different thread that the radio spl and or hboot has plenty to do with the battery life and what else i said and thanks troby86 thats exactly what i will try
Radio has some effect on the battery life, but it's mostly negligible, and on this specific phone nobody reported any significant differences when running different radios. And HBOOT doesn't matter.
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Radio has some effect on the battery life, but it's mostly negligible, and on this specific phone nobody reported any significant differences when running different radios. And HBOOT doesn't matter.
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ohh ok see thats more like it lols i didnt thank your last post because it was written type snotty lols but since the radio has some type of effect would you happen to know which radio would be best for my phone because the update is running is way to great to really remove
(Off Topic) how do you put the device and hacks on the bottom like troby86 has?
^ Radio updates are released for a reason....mainly for small bug fixes and improved signal....it will not hurt you to update. The newest radio released actually has improved numerous users' signal and battery. Even though it may not help you, its always a good rule of thumb to keep your radio up to date to avoid any problems when flashing ROMs. One of the first things you will get asked when looking for ROM support is what radio or kernel are you on. Keep yours up to date and you will see very few problems.
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^ Radio updates are released for a reason....mainly for small bug fixes and improved signal....it will not hurt you to update. The newest radio released actually has improved numerous users' signal and battery. Even though it may not help you, its always a good rule of thumb to keep your radio up to date to avoid any problems when flashing ROMs. One of the first things you will get asked when looking for ROM support is what radio or kernel are you on. Keep yours up to date and you will see very few problems.
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thanks a lot i just thought that certain radios were for certain updates and etc. but for the kernal part i dont really now what that is in total
As far as the kernel...the Galnet developers have customized the kernel for that specific ROM. If I'm not mistaken Galnet MIUI 4.0.1 is still the Gingerbread MIUI but with ICS framework. So flash the newest radio and do a full wipe then reflash Galnet and allow 10 minutes to fully reboot and settle. Then allow your battery to completely die, fully charge and wipe your battery stats, then reboot and you should be good to go. Also keep in mind that Galnet does not officially support the MyTouch 4G, so whoever ported it may not have ensured the kernel was properly working, but i flashed Galnet about 15 minutes ago, and I see no problems yet.
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It a real great rom is'nt it and ok thanks alot i will try it out tomorow and let you know how it goes
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