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Love his ROMs.
shoestring789 said:
Im sure this thread will get removed or closed and I will get punished like a child thats misbehaving, but I feel that in a community based forum that is designed for people to come together and share ideas and teach one another, that one of the BEST developers of some of the most, if not THE most, stable ROMS gets denied a status as RECOGNIZED DEVELOPER by the same community administators that Im sure USE or HAVE USED his ROMS is flat idiotic and ridiculous!! This thread is just to let people know whats going on with the "higher ups" of XDA. Hope a few people get to see this anyways before either its gone, Im gone, or both!!!
PS - THERE IS A PETITION IN THE GENERAL SECTION!! GO SIGN IT!!
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not sure what the issue is, did he ask to have the recognized developer status or just doesn't have it yet?
I've seen quite a few copy and pasters throw roms together from other people's work (direct porting with our boot image and build prop tweaks, swapping apns, libs and eri's etc., even I can do that and will never claim to be a developer), or just compile straight from cm source and they have the recognized developer status... I was under the impression that it wasn't that hard to get....?
That said, I haven't used his roms, but I hear good things and I'm not sure why he wouldn't be worthy of the developer status
He asked and was denied
moderators are few and especially in this section. I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed up for days.
I support Nils and all his work. He's a great guy and an excellent developer, I don't see how they could not recognize him with the rest of the developers when he has done so much in this community.
I have been as impressed with his work about as much as anyone else's. I would love to know the details behind that decision being made.
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Ya know.... I'm pretty tired of the *****ing & whining here on XDA lately. Who gives a ****? IT'S THE INTERNET, not a promotion at a job, new girlfriend or car.
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I started off wrong. My apologies.
I appreciate all the hard work and believe every developer is due their recognition but...
Dmadrid98 said:
Ya know.... I'm pretty tired of the *****ing & whining here on XDA lately. Who gives a ****? IT'S THE INTERNET, not a promotion at a job, new girlfriend or car.
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Life will go on.
Developing ain't for sissie's
Dmadrid98 said:
I started off wrong. My apologies.
I appreciate all the hard work and believe every developer is due their recognition but...
Life will go on.
Developing ain't for sissie's
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No problem. Thanks Bud.
YOUR FONT IS TOO SMALL
I agree 100%. This is crap.
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I 100% agree that this is crap.
If I'm not mistaken Nil's has been the only DEV supporting this phone since the beginning.I know personally that he answers questions and shares information. So hopefully the powers that be will reconsider.
no, lets give all the credit to AOSP developers and people who throw crap together from other roms and claim "it's a tottaly new rom! " this is f'ing stupid, XDA.
At this point it would be my guess that you have to make or be a part of a breakthrough of some sort in order to be recognized. A stable rom isn't exactly something that people can be recognized for because all the copy-and-pasters screwed that up for everyone. There's no telling what belongs to who in a ROM so why give people props for it when there's so much going on as far as people just taking stuff.
If I were looking to be recognized I'd do something innovative... Get WP7 on here, make a live wallpaper that has the camera active so its like were looking through our phone, etc etc. Most recognized developers develop for more than one phone so crank out something that the EVO and Desire can use as well as us... Things like that.
That's the only logic I can follow as far as why he was denied.
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At this point it would be my guess that you have to make or be a part of a breakthrough of some sort in order to be recognized. A stable rom isn't exactly something that people can be recognized for because all the copy-and-pasters screwed that up for everyone. There's no telling what belongs to who in a ROM so why give people props for it when there's so much going on as far as people just taking stuff.
If I were looking to be recognized I'd do something innovative... Get WP7 on here, make a live wallpaper that has the camera active so its like were looking through our phone, etc etc. Most recognized developers develop for more than one phone so crank out something that the EVO and Desire can use as well as us... Things like that.
That's the only logic I can follow as far as why he was denied.
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Being innovative has nothing to do with being a recognised dev. it's just being that, recognised for what you have done. it's about contributions and being helpful. not who's done the most awesome rom, mod or app. it's not a super dev contest... if that were the case, easily more than half of the recognised devs would not be recognized because they are drag and drop devs with no programing skills. just swap and remove files from one rom to another and call it their rom.
to be more exact to the terms of being a RD, here are the actual requirements...
-Be a developer that regularly posts your work/works on XDA
-Post helpful threads in the general section
-Regularly help answer questions in the Q&A Sections
-Not be found guilty of flaming
-And of course, feel out the Recognized Developer of XDA request form(When available which it currently is not at this time).
If you know Nils or have dealt with him in any way, you know he meets most if not all these requirements.
Well said Stoney!
This place has gone to hell ever since the closing of newtoroot threads a month or two back and with all the drama with certain devs. I'm glad I got my dinc 2 and don't have to see such travesties like this. Eff Ex Dee Ay.
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Stoney 666 said:
Being innovative has nothing to do with being a recognised dev. it's just being that, recognised for what you have done. it's about contributions and being helpful. not who's done the most awesome rom, mod or app. it's not a super dev contest... if that were the case, easily more than half of the recognised devs would not be recognized because they are drag and drop devs with no programing skills. just swap and remove files from one rom to another and call it their rom.
to be more exact to the terms of being a RD, here are the actual requirements...
-Be a developer that regularly posts your work/works on XDA
-Post helpful threads in the general section
-Regularly help answer questions in the Q&A Sections
-Not be found guilty of flaming
-And of course, feel out the Recognized Developer of XDA request form(When available which it currently is not at this time).
If you know Nils or have dealt with him in any way, you know he meets most if not all these requirements.
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How exactly does one feel out the form? lol. Sorry trolling, but I had to.
If you go by the definition you stated, then most rom builders would fit the bill. I have seen huge support by most devs on this forum. It sounds tho, that there is more to this than we know.
xda is starting to lose my respect and my visiting
any developers out there want to get down and dirty to work on sense 3.5? after the recent events on T-N and kings childish ways there are alot of people wanting to see some development on this ROM.. so if there are any developers out there who aren't afraid to get dirty and actually wanna work on the project, send me a PM or feel free to email me @ [email protected]
Please dont send me messages about this being in the wrong section, after all this is a general discussion
I will personally donate enough to buy the first few knowledgeable developers who sign on a case of beer or sodas or energy drinks, or coffee... whatever suits Your fancy
Rules: the rules are simple
1. know what you are doing
2. have some experience modding the Android OS
3. no complaining, everyone will receive credit where it is due
4. this project is open to the public as long as you can work together as a team, if there are any issues that can not be resolved the project will be pulled from development...again
Ok so this is my opinion and I'm tired of seeing it happen.
Number one where the end user goes wrong.
Begging for more and more and more... (this goes on and on)
Thinking these devs owe you something.
Asking already answered multiple times questions.
Asking questions in a cdma forum if its for GSM
Commenting back on a post that includes the above items. And fuelling a battle that will only end with a mod envoking their privileges, or a Dev gets the ****s of it.
Mods you go wrong by not stepping in sooner for these imature posts. To many mods like to warn everyone that they have these privileges. Just do your job and delete the posts or block multiple offenders. If your not going to do that then don't add in to the mess how you managed to be given such a great ability, and how you are not afraid to use it.
Devs, come on... sometimes as much as I rely upon you I have to think yous are the worst at all of the above. I'm sorry if someone takes your work, and rewrites the build.prop to make it look like their own. But holy **** where did your main source come from? I have yet to see one dev rewrite the entire linux kernel, that android is using, from scratch. Yet no dev is giving credit to those who did write it and continue to maintain it. Not one rom creator gives credit to google or aosp at the beginning of their thread. Hell some working on cm dont even give credit to cyanogen. It would be one dark day if cyanogen were to pull cm and say one dev didnt give him credit for what he started.
Bottom line people android is an amazing platform that had it not been for the amazing dev community, modders, and tweakers, and even end user would just be another iphone. Instead there are so many things that we can do that an iphone user cant do as easily. Like send an attatchment (other than images) right from the email app. Everyone as a whole is making this what it is. Even if they only make a slight change, or report a bug. If u dont want someone using your work then work on something closed source. Cause open source is all about the community. And its that community that got it here.
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matthewflinchbaugh said:
Mods you go wrong by not stepping in sooner for these imature posts. To many mods like to warn everyone that they have these privileges. Just do your job and delete the posts or block multiple offenders. If your not going to do that then don't add in to the mess how you managed to be given such a great ability, and how you are not afraid to use it.
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If you report these posts, I will take a look & make a decision on what should be done. Sadly I cannot read every post from every thread all the time, help me to help you.
i guess we need more mods soon.lol
Oppo Find 5 Needs Developer Help, Donations Will Be Given, Help Make the Oppo Find 5 A Beast Modded With, Roms, Kernels, TWRPs, CWMs, We Need Someone Who Can Do This If You Are Willing To Donate Time To Oppo Find 5, And We Donate CASH.
I know that paperWastage and drewX2 have been doing some awesome work on the Oppo Find 5(OF5), but they cant do everything by themselves. TWRP and CMW are already working, but need updateded I think so. So I came up with an idea last night that would take some of the stress off their back and maybe someone could help them get things going a little faster, of course I will donate and I’m sure other will also. If my idea sounds stupid just delete this thread, I’m just trying to get as much help as we can on development with this device since it has the same CPU and GPU as most devices out today the quad core - S4Pro. The phone cost $499 and if we all pitch in a few bucks we could have the money for this phone to give to a developer who has worked with the S4Pro chipset before and knows most of how it operates and they will know what they are doing with the S4ProChipset. If this sounds like a good idea, I will start off by donating $20 so that that we can order this phone and send it to the developer of our choice. We need a really good dev. that isn’t working on anything right now and can spend some time turning our Oppo Find 5 into a beast.
If everyone agrees to donate a little as you want anything will help we only need $400to get this phone , I have saw more than that raised in one day. I don’t want to be in control of the money someone with a little ore authority here at XDA can do that. So does this sound like a good Idea, If so start getting in contact with some of the best developers that you know and let them know we got a free phone waiting on them and other donation for time and effort.
I WILL ADD NAME IF YOU ANT ME TOO - LIST OF DEVELOPERS. I will add others as people get in touch with the me or other developers and give them either give a YES or NO for committing time to the Oppo Find 5. When list is made we will all vote of which developers to send the phone out to so they can begin development.
1. drewX2 - He is working on Mod of CM10 and he does not even own the Oppo Find 5. Definitely on the top of my lists CM10 WORK http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197147
2. paperWastage- I think he has Oppo Find 5 already though still dedicating a lot of time and a beer of coffee would be nice.
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If you want your name on the list put in post and I will add it, I only made 10 for now if we need more I will add them later. Hopefully this is something that people consider; you don’t have to donate all kinds of money even $5 will work, Hell $3 will work, anything to get us closer to that $400. Everyone does not need to donate like some people will and donate $20 or $30 dollars. Because right now we need some serious help paperWastage and drewX2 have been doing some awesome work, a couple people can’t do this all by themselves, and if we want to make this phone worth every cent we spent for it, we really need to make this a nice phone that we can flash Roms, Kernels, and all the good stuff then this is a good opportunity to make it happen.
I'd buy a phone for a Dev. I think Entropy512,KamMa NODO-GT and XpLoDWilD already have the phone though....I haven't had a S4 Pro phone before so I don't know any experienced devs,but count me in for $10 a month.
I want to contribute whith my donations.
I´ve already make one to Kamma AOSP´s proyect
My next donation will go to Xplodwild when he launch his new builds of CM10.1
Donations do nothing but fragment the community in almost all situations. In fact, more often than not, users don't even remotely get their money's worth from device donations to developers.
Hell, in my opinion even teamhacksung device donations for CM bringups were bad ideas in the long run - they caused developers who had potential to achieve something to just say "****it, teamhacksung is here, I'll just kang".
If the device is still in a bad state after 4-5 months - yeah, then maybe it's time to start considering donation drives.
But a device that has only had kernel source available for 2-3 weeks? Hell no.
It often takes MONTHS to properly learn a device's ins and outs. You can't just throw devices at developers and immediately have good stuff overnight. More often than not, developers who take donations in advance will just take donations for another device in a month or two - I've seen it all the time.
Don't donate to encourage work to be done - only donate for work that has already been done.
And I'll be blunt - drewx2 should never have created a CM thread here. Blind development almost never works and fails spectactularly instead, especially for a CM bringup. Blind development only works for devices that are 99% identical to one the developer owns (I777 vs. I9100, N8010 vs. N8013, I777 vs. S959G, etc.) His thread is just a donation ploy. Any maintainer with the discipline to do a bringup knows when it is NOT the time to publically release anything because it's nowhere near ready, and also knows that you do NOT do blind development for a CM bringup.
Mod please delete thread, devs should get paid after they show progress in thier work
Mod please delete this thread everything you said made since. Give donation to the people when the work is in progress and completed, and not before I always give donations for devs efforts but you have taught me a lesson.
You know what you are doing Entropy512, you been around awhile, and I wish so bad you had this device even if you would work on it. I really like the phone its badass and its not all that buggy it just needs some kinks ironed out and in my opinion some kernels because this kernel is not running like it should. We need a kernel so we can play with and overclock or underclock with good governors to ramp it up or down.Come on down faux and show-p plus many more.
Can't we all just get along? Work together already.
Okay, enough is enough. This thread has just turned into a playground, as well as being pointless and jumping the gun in the first place. At everyone involved in the arguing, you really do need to stop doing it publicly. At the OP, be patient and see what the developers bring.
Thread closed at OP request.
Hi guy,
Again me with new idea of thread,
i invite all Master of DEVs, Themers and other great people who have been contribute to give us the best of our ."PRECIOUS" to post here .
i hope you could understand that i want 1 post by "contributor" , or owner (everybody not 'contributor' yet can post sure !)
We are not here to have exchange about anything, just we let each contributor to make its post like he want or need.
Yes, posters have to waste a little time, not sure they want repeat again what they have mentioned in their own thread, but maybe some of them need/want to be find easily by this way here, in GENERAL and they can post summary here too.
i you will ask me my contrubution ?
Imagine that in XDA S2 Forum, when you ear about @Troubadour666 , you can be sure people are refering about dualboot roms with @dorimanx kernel.
that's my contribution, make experience dualboot easily for everyone on S2.
i think i can let this thread alive one month to see evolution and then i will decide to close it or not. maybe moderator will decide it before .
i will touch this post later.
thanks.
My contribution to xda(interms of ROM/themes/tool/icon pack was started after inspiring from great devs of Neat ROM family.
And I have worked more with s2 i9100 .
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Guides and passing what i have learned in building mods are the most important thing to me. I just enjoy seeing that spark of interest in members when they stop asking for mods and choose they want to build themselves. Thats the best and after some time they have there own threads teaching more members. Makes me proud
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i dont need to brag about my contribution , already 3 phones sections knows me (lg p500 , s2 and g2) plus few other iphone designed threads
let's just say that my contribution meant sharing my mods , themes and roms with the dear xda users :angel:
Well I'm not a dev but I leaned so much from xda and the people over here. Got so many good friends too. Just want to contribute more but my personal life is so buay in these days. ?
avirk said:
Well I'm not a dev but I leaned so much from xda and the people over here. Got so many good friends too. Just want to contribute more but my personal life is so buay in these days. ?
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i know bro , but for the moment u have to focus on the current situation in ur life
I'm a noooob themer,I've done
Vr theme zips for neatrom 4.4.4 and tw 4.3 on the i9300.
cm theme's for all device's running that engine.
I helped out in q and a for the s2 for a long while and met some really good people there and learned so much from them,then I found alliance rom and neat family and learned even more
Concept is Brilliant & In Return Thanks for Your Help. Many years now.
Troubadour666 said:
Hi guy,
Again me with new idea of thread,
i invite all Master of DEVs, Themers and other great people who have been contribute to give us the best of our ."PRECIOUS" to post here .
i hope you could understand that i want 1 post by "contributor" , or owner (everybody not 'contributor' yet can post sure !)
We are not here to have exchange about anything, just we let each contributor to make its post like he want or need.
Yes, posters have to waste a little time, not sure they want repeat again what they have mentioned in their own thread, but maybe some of them need/want to be find easily by this way here, in GENERAL and they can post summary here too.
i you will ask me my contrubution ?
Imagine that in XDA S2 Forum, when you ear about @Troubadour666 , you can be sure people are refering about dualboot roms with @dorimanx kernel.
that's my contribution, make experience dualboot easily for everyone on S2.
i think i can let this thread alive one month to see evolution and then i will decide to close it or not. maybe moderator will decide it before .
i will touch this post later.
thanks.
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My Gift/Share in Return to All the People.
http://forum.resurrectionremix.com/index.php?topic=846.0
@Troubadour666
All in one guide called android modders guide (www.androidmodguide.blogspot.com), personal dorimanx builds and other guides on kernel tunables.
gsstudios said:
All in one guide called android modders guide (www.androidmodguide.blogspot.com), personal dorimanx builds and other guides on kernel tunables.
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Very good! I've benefited from many of your threads and posts and I'm grateful for your contributions.
EDIT : Many thanks to @Troubadour666 and the others here.
I actually thought I was posting to another thread and only realised it went here after I submitted it. Apologies for trespassing in this esteemed company from a (as yet) non-contributor.