Will rooting disable OTA updates? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Question is simply in the title, I haven't found a clear answer to this. I would still like to receive OTA updates, but I have a few reasons to have my device rooted as well. Does rooting at this point in time disable OTA updates? Also would it be okay to flash these OTA updates or could it potentially brick my nexus 7.

Just rooting? No, but an ota update will remove root.
You only run into problems after installing a custom recovery.
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redmonke255 said:
Just rooting? No, but an ota update will remove root.
You only run into problems after installing a custom recovery.
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so as long as i don't install CWM then im okay?

redmonke255 said:
Just rooting? No, but an ota update will remove root.
You only run into problems after installing a custom recovery.
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So if I do update my tablet via an OTA update, would I just re root it the same way I did originally?

aaronfuhrer said:
So if I do update my tablet via an OTA update, would I just re root it the same way I did originally?
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Exactly.

Or you could use Voodoo OTA RootKeeper.

aaronfuhrer said:
So if I do update my tablet via an OTA update, would I just re root it the same way I did originally?
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cryporchild said:
Exactly.
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Would everything on the tablet get erased again, or is there a way to re-root without unlocking the bootloader again and erasing everything?

tom_yellowblue said:
Would everything on the tablet get erased again, or is there a way to re-root without unlocking the bootloader again and erasing everything?
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Not if you use the rootkeeper app

Sorry newbie with a 7 here.....
I don't wish to use a custom rom, but root and install either CWM or TWRP for recovery, will I stil be able to get the OTA with those please?

spthacker said:
Sorry newbie with a 7 here.....
I don't wish to use a custom rom, but root and install either CWM or TWRP for recovery, will I stil be able to get the OTA with those please?
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As it was stated above, you can't install a custom recovery and get an OTA. At least not with a little work.
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redmonke255 said:
Just rooting? No, but an ota update will remove root.
You only run into problems after installing a custom recovery.
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So, OTA will remove root. But will the update also remove all the modifications i've done like copying nexus.xml (file for getting unlimited photos storage) to /system/etc/sysconfig and editing build.prop?

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Can I update System OS after Rooting?

Just rooted my N7 and when I rebooted, I got a message "System Update Available". If I update the system, will I lose root?
Try it and let us know.
from my experience with updating previous device after roooting, you will loose root after the udpate but you can still root again.
qpqpqp said:
from my experience with updating previous device after roooting, you will loose root after the udpate but you can still root again.
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But then if I have to root again, I go back to the original OS version, right? So seems like a waste of time?
dspcap said:
But then if I have to root again, I go back to the original OS version, right? So seems like a waste of time?
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are not the same things. Flash su.zip to root.
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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Manvendra05 said:
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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Lost root.. no biggie. But had problems rooting the first time, so guess I get to have fun again
theoneofgod said:
Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are not the same things. Flash su.zip to root.
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Thanks... got it updated and back to root... not too bad.
I updated and didn't lose root. How did you root in the first place.
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Mr
i rooted my N7100 after that i can not update android OS ...any help?
Manvendra05 said:
If it is an ota update...go in superuser user app and check ota survival and ur root may survive the update :thumbup:
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mahmoudhamouda said:
i rooted my N7100 after that i can not update android OS ...any help?
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Go to your device's forum for help. This section is for the nexus 7
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(Q) system update downloaded- safe to do?

Hello guys,
I got my n10 today, rooted using marks toolkit.
Now the notification says "system update downloaded" and press to restart and install...
Is there an update or is my tablet trying to restore the original bootloader, and will updating unroot my phone?
Thanks,
Mark.
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The OTA is normal. It has nothing to do with root.
I'm not sure if you'll lose root. I don't remember the order of what I did. If you lose it, just re-root. Or you can download Voodoo OTA Root Keeper, which has worked for me in the past.
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nyijedi said:
The OTA is normal. It has nothing to do with root.
I'm not sure if you'll lose root. I don't remember the order of what I did. If you lose it, just re-root. Or you can download Voodoo OTA Root Keeper, which has worked for me in the past.
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Yes, you will lose root but you will remain unlocked... in fact, it is a good idea to unroot before installing OTA updates... being a Nexus device, this can easily be re-rooted....
Thank you guys!
I will do it then... Cheers, Mark
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Updated to 4.2.2 and lost root?

Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
inc188 said:
Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
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You will always loose root when u update if u don't use a root keeper app. Just reroot your N4
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DowntownJeffBrown said:
You will always loose root when u update if u don't use a root keeper app. Just reroot your N4
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thanks.. any suggestions on how to re root? perhaps an easy method
and what apps do you recommend for root keeper?
Its like supersu pro or whatever.
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Just flash recovery and then download the supersu zip. Flash the supersu and you are rooted
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I used CWM to install the original zip. It prompted me before rebooting if I want to keep root/recovery and to fix it.
I used this thread to reroot using adb...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331
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I used the Nexus 4 1.3 toolkit with updated files
As a precaution I backed up my folders and make a Titanium backup. Technically re-rooting will not WIPE phone like it did first time I purchased it.
I could have installed CWM but prefer to keep this phone stock, considering its as pure as it will ever be and want the OTA updates.
But there are so many options to get ROOT lots of options. Love it so far.
You can use cwm for flashing the ota to avoid the hassle of using adb sideload. You can choose stock recovery after flashing the su zip. Just use the cwm to flash ota and su. Just my 2 cents
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I just paid the £1.95 for Su Pro, which keeps root over OTA updates. Worth the money IMHO, I have wasted more time that that in faffing around each time.
Just rooting it like you did first time will work.
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syamilsatanick said:
Just flash recovery and then download the supersu zip. Flash the supersu and you are rooted
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This ^^^
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inc188 said:
Hey everyone
just updated ota to 4.2.2 and lost root. Superuser is not working. Any help?
thanks
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Just root again, OTA will make your phone rooted again!!!
Wow. Thanks everyone. I am gonna try a few these. I had no idea su pro kept root. Only had i known
I learn.
After you reroot, get OTA Root Keeper from the Play Store so you can restore root in the future after an OTA
ok... so i figured out an easy way... i used nexus toolkit to root in the first place and then saw this on wug's website... followed the direction and got root back... Thanks everyone for your help
also, its not clear below, but these files are replaced on your computer under C:\Program Files\WugFresh Development\data
"Yes, I am aware that this isn’t working on 4.2.2 right now. This will be fixed in v1.6.3 which will be released ASAP (within a few days or sooner if possible). As a temporary fix you can replace the old adb/fastboot/dll files in the toolkits /data directory with the new ones: new_adb_and_fastboot.zip just download that zip and extract/unzip its contents into the toolkits /data directory and agree to overwrite those files, then proceed to use “Any Build” mode to perform subsequent operations like rooting. Again, this is just a temporary fix for those who are impatient."

Custom Kernel and OTA updates

Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
FaeLLe said:
Hello all,
I am really interested in trying out the Franco Kernel on my Nexus 4 but would still like the ability to update OTA in the future if possible.
From my research I understand that you lose the ability to do OTA updates once a custom kernel is installed.
If I ever wish to update OTA in the future is there a way? Can I just install the stock kernel and do an OTA update (without losing data on the phone)?
Appreciate your help on this.
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Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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eainyow said:
Yes you can after flashing back the stock kernel
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Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
FaeLLe said:
Will I lose any data on phone after I flash stock kernel?
What about root, does flashing stock kernel affect root status? I think not since Su binary is in file system.
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You won't lose any data or root access by flashing kernels.
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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KrimsonChin said:
Even if you have a custom recovery with the stock kernel, you can still receive OTAs?
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As long as everything else is stock yes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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[Q] I just rooted my M, is it safe to install Xposed on the stock rom?

So this is not my first rooted device but it is my first time rooting my Razr M since it got upgraded to Kit Kat. It is also my first time installing Xposed so some help would be appreciated.
Yes is safe to install xposed... here is a nice collection of modules ... Be sure to unlock your boot loader before the next ota is pushed as when the next ota comes we may not be lucky enough to find a root method...
ezknives said:
Yes is safe to install xposed... But be sure to unlock your boot loader before the next ota is pushed as when the next ota comes we may not be lucky enough to find a root method...
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Is unlocking the bootloader necessary if i don't plan on installing any custom roms? If i needed to return to stock i could just use RSD right?
notdeadyet01 said:
Is unlocking the bootloader necessary if i don't plan on installing any custom roms? If i needed to return to stock i could just use RSD right?
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When the next ota update comes you will lose root and if there isn't a root exploit for that version with an unlocked BL you can always flash SuperSU via recovery and get root back... And yes rsd is an option to return to stock to accept the next ota
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ezknives said:
When the next ota update comes you will lose root and if there isn't a root exploit for that version with an unlocked BL you can always flash SuperSU via recovery and get root back... And yes rsd is an option to return to stock to accept the next ota
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Alright. Thanks for the help.
But just to make sure, unlocking the bootloader is not necessary for Xposed right?
Correct.... But is strongly recommend
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ezknives said:
Correct.... But is strongly recommend
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Alright, i'm assuming that motochopper is still the best option to unlock the bootloader right?
Use the Motopocalypse app
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ezknives said:
Use the Motopocalypse app
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Got it. Thanks for all the help!
notdeadyet01 said:
So this is not my first rooted device but it is my first time rooting my Razr M since it got upgraded to Kit Kat. It is also my first time installing Xposed so some help would be appreciated.
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good luck and enjoy. it's safe. i rooted and unloacked my razr m after the KK update, and installed xposed for the first time. its great - some of the modules make my life so much easier.

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