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Just saw this on Engadget (via Pulse, hence the URL) and thought people might enjoy the read.
The Tab 2 seems to be following in the footsteps of the Xoom and LG Slate with the screen size. The article mentions no news or rumors of the destiny for our beloved Tabs but maybe the Samsung event will give us the good (or bad) news about the Honeycomb update.
I'm sure we'll 3.0 love as soon a system dump is available, but it'd still be nice of Samsung to give an official update seeing as this is the Tab which (pretty much) started the Android Tablet evolution.
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i am very happy with my 7" tab. not too big not too small just perfect, the 10.1" will be a bit to big, but i do agree that we should get the 3.0 upgrade soon.....
Ok one of the main reasons I bought my tab (other than how amazing cool it is) is due to the 7" screen. I dont want a huge 10" screen!. I have a 32" bravia for a pc monitor and a 10.1" netbook, I got the tab for portability! I wish they would leave it at 7"
I sure hope they don't increase the screen size, that is one of the great differentiating factors between the Tab and the iPad. I loved my iPad but it was too big to carry easily. All of the new Honeycomb announced tablet's have the bigger screen and I was counting on Samsung sticking with the smaller form factor. Although the rumors of Apple considering a 7" iPad are interesting and would tempt me to back. The biggest disappointment with the Tab is the sluggishness I get and no Android browser I've tried is as smooth and responsive as Safari on the iPad.
I have reliable information saying this will be some sort of official google tablet(maybe for the european market?). The hardware will also blow everyones minds somehow. Don't know any details about that, but the competition will supposedly be playing catchup for quite some while before they get there. I guess it will be some fancy new screen at least. I'm looking forward to sunday as samsung will tell us everything:-D
and yes, it will be running honeycomb.
Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung fecking sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU
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Whatever, i hope it is a google tab made by samsung. Either way samsung ****ing sucks ass. I've had a captivate since the day before launch and its yet to receive froyo. What the hell is the hold up? I learned my lesson and not to buy their proprietary bull****. I jumped ship and got the nook cause of the development and me not having the patience for samsung's bull**** and lies. Yeah wait and hope for your dump. Good luck porting that. Even with the nexus s galaxy s still hasn't been ported. Knock knock .... anyone home. As you can tell, i have lost my patience for samsung.
I'll check back in 6months. I'd almost be willing to place a wager. FU samsung FU
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I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?
The rumor mill is going strong today.
Rumors have said the iPad will be available in 7" form factor and now the Tab will be in 10" form factor.
Wouldn't that be funny, each side copying the other after each saying the other size was not good!
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I'm sorry to be off topic from OP but your post is fubared to say the least.
You complain that Samsung doesn't release any update. You jump ship to get the Nook and use a custom ROM? LoL I guess Barnes & Noble released Honeycomb for Nook eh?
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+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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WHo said anything about porting this to a phone? Well since the nook is an omap it shares a lot of similarities with droidx, and since motorolla dosnt have all this proprietary bs that they dont release code for. So when trying to port a nexus s to galaxy s, one would think it would be simple. So when you guys get that dump i seriously doubt it will ported. It's just my opinion. That would be samsungs fault cause a lot of their drivers are proprietary since they make the hardware. So if they don't release code then code will have to be reversed engineered and that takes time...lots of it. Well you can see where i'm going with this. Samsung could of released info today about how the new tab and how they are going to upgrade their other one that was released 6 months ago but they didn't and they don't give a fuk, seriously.
] About jumping ship? I was just saying that if you want upgrades in os's , well , samsung hasn't shown that they give a rats ass. I learned the hard way just like you guys will. I happen to choose the nook because of the hardware and how easily it is to port. Unlike samsung again with their proprietary drivers and what not. This isn't a nook vs tab debate. I think the galaxy tab is beautiful hardware is sexy but the buck stop there. Samsung needs to show us that they care and i just don't have that faith. So good luck with the dump. Hope that works out.
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+1 to that.
Why would people port it to a phone? 3.0 is a tablet only firmware. 2.4 is the mix of Gingerbread and Honeycomb for phones.
And you jumped ship because of their development? A 3.0 port of the SDK? I'd rather keep this and wait for a proper port tbh.
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Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)
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Like i said this isn't a nook vs samsung tab debate. I was saying that the nook has drivers and all the code to boot making it truly open. Where as samsung is closed. IF samsung was so closed you guys and gals could already be honeycombin it up. But samsung sucks till they make their code truly open. (drivers)
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I misunderstood your phone comment, I thought you meant porting Honeycomb to the Nexus/Galaxy S, not Nexus to Galaxy
I haven't looked into the Nook myself so I'm unfamiliar with the specs/features of it and the work developers has done to it is shocking and amazing.
I agree wwith the comment about Samsung being *****es with their upgrades. But I personally think that with the developers we have, I think we *might* be able to pull off something spectacular with this incredible device.
Most of us jumped into it buying the Tab knowing of Samsungs backgroynd but that's the risk everyone takes with devices, right? I came from a Desire and since FroYo, we've been screwed by HTC. No Sense UI 2.0 eventhough ports of the Desire HD & Z have proven it could cope. All manufacturers do it in their own way.
*Hopefully* Samsung will change their ways.
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I fully agree it would be unjust for the galaxy not to get some samsung love. But love and sumsung is almost an oxymoron. Specially when sammy's just getting in on this whole "open" thing. If they don't ;produce then this will be the straw that breaks the camels back. SO in the meantime let me say FU samy, shame on you.
I will be pissed if the tab 2 is not 7 inches. Lame.
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http://pulsene.ws/11anK
Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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Im glad its going to be 10inch, makes me feel better for having a 7inch tab
Seems to be a lot of misunderstanding in this thread
Samsung always said there would be a 7" AND a 10" form factor... They are just rolling out the 10" with the latest hardware and Software (HC). Nothing surprising here. I ma not sure you can call that a GT2... It's just the 10" GT
Hopefully down the road they will update the 7" as well. nd I think it's a good thing they don't do it immediately !! I'd be pissed if my GT is immediately outdated...
I'm taking my Tab back and waiting out the release of the Xoom and Tab 2. I think right now was the wrong time to buy.
I for one do not think I am going to buy a new Galaxy Tab just for a few extra inches. I mean come on samsung it is the same galaxy tab just a small bit bigger...and also weren't they the ones that first made a speech about how 7" tablets are more protable then 10"....
And on that note, If for some reason Honeycomb didn't get put on my 7" I would prob buy another tablet...but not this one.
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http://pulsene.ws/11anK
Update from Engadget, an 'official' picture was leaked. Not sure about everyone else, but i think the new menu button looks fugly I preferred the touch buttons as it made the Tab look sleek and sexy, now it looks to similar to that damn iPad. :/
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That's the Galaxy S 2, not the Tab 2!
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Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Well not completely but compared to the other tablets Dev sections it does seem quite dormant. Just look at the Transformer or the Acer Inconia. There hasn't been much activity here besides a few mods but not any full releases.
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Mmm... this topic has been brought up so so so many times...
It's hard to do anything when Google is keeping the Honeycomb source locked up. As far as I know the other Honeycomb tablets have been modified by the manufacturing company to alter certain parts of the Android OS and such, thus allowing for a bit more flexibility when it comes to development.
As far as the Xoom goes, it's the only official pure stock vanilla Google experience tablet, and Google is keeping it locked down without further notice. It's assumed that they will be ready to fully release the source for everything when Ice Cream Sandwich launches in the near future.
If the devs could use magic, they would. Until then... we must wait for ICS. The Xoom is Google's baby, as it was the first of it's kind to start the dawn of the Honeycomb era. When they are good and ready, the development scene for the Xoom will skyrocket in short notice. Trust me.
Also, the only other thing the developers can try besides just tweaking stuff is port the Galaxy Tab 10.1's Touch Wiz Rom to the Xoom. But it's a step back as it's only Android 3.1 while we are already on 3.2.
Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I agree.
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
I'm a flashaholic. Good thing I have my thunderbolt or I would go into withdrawls.
Xoom Xoom
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Also the other devices are incorporating Xoom or Galaxy bits and catching up. This is the problem with the device officially having the newest OS out there. The will be a day when the Xooms' longevity will be evident.
As for now we have the latest and greatest already. It is hard for us flashoholics but there's a reason so much is going on with the Asus and Acer. They needed help hence the Xoom and Galaxy ports. Its lonely at the top. By the way we have Tiamat which in my opinion is the gold standard.
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+1 Very well said.
Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Ok I only see one issue. Has anyone tested a usb burner? What else is there that we can't already do?
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Fully sourced custom Roms. That's what everybody is looking for. With that you would have new features, tweaks, and abilities that a stock Rom would never give you in a million years. Tiamat is the gold standard and the other devices wish they had them on their side. The team is just amazing to have created a modified stock Rom experience that works better than default stock. And when they are able to create fully customized fully sourced custom Roms... a loss for words...
Don't feel to bad because the other devices roms are usually referenced to our stock roms.
Yep i love Hammerhead!!!
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Someone should get a job at Google and leak the Honeycomb source and then quit. That would be epic.
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Awesome! How they don't realize from the past with Android custom devs how much further android could be catapulted past the competition I just don't know.
I also don't get how people are so quick to hop on the latest updates when, even without the source being released, previous versions customers by devs blow away whatever little appetizers Google farts out to us.
Anyhow, I gotta say the Xoom has come an awful long way considering the SC hasn't even been released.
Devs are friggin awesome!
Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump tenfold.
/facepalm
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may be we should all chip in n collect some money, get a hold of the guy who hacked into psn, n later even sony's main servers, n pursue hm to hack into google n get us what we need...n knowing anything about this guy, i bet he'd even do it for free...just for kicks...
"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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It's just a general statement, not literally meaning every single person. It's just something one says, and it's not meant to be taken literally as an individual. But ok: "A lot" of people are looking forward to the fully sourced, and full customization from a true custom Rom. And generally speaking... the first thing the average root user thinks of are the custom Roms when they hear the term "source code". Ultimately that's what it would mean when the source code is released. The devs will then have the proper tools to start developing new custom Roms. They will then begin to flood the market in due time with new and unique Roms, as was the same with the OG Droid.
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Imagine if the source was out. Xoom sales would jump by ten.
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There- FTFY.
You can only milk the same cow so many times, until more cows come along this rom release is milked out.
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"That's what everybody is looking for."
And you know that how? I'm one of those "everybody" and I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for someone to take over Ubuntu-development. Even Asus EEE, Acer Iconia and Samsung Galaxy Tab have Ubuntu-ROMS, but we have some crap-ass VNC-Ubuntu. If they can do it (especially considering the Asus EEE and Acer Iconia have the same Tegra 2), then it should be possible for us too. That is what I'm looking for, so don't talk for everybody please.
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Well I'm sure it's a valid point for you, but being a casual Android user who roots, having an Ubuntu based rom makes no sense to me. I admit I don't even know what an Ubuntu rom is for. Is it something like porting Windows OS into the tablet? If so, I doubt many users care for something like this since rom development to them is more about tweaking, optimizing, themeing and adding functions to an Android based rom. Porting other OSes is a lot more niche and caters to a smaller group of users.
So since the Honeycomb source is indefinitely locked up by Google, themed and overclocked Honeycomb is as good as we can get for now. The next best thing to wait for is Samsung to update the Galaxy Tab 10.1 to Honeycomb 3.2 and we'll probably get Touch Wiz ported over.
Just watched it! It's amazing!!! And I share it for you to enjoy. And to love your Note more and more while waiting for the upgrade:
Simply amazing! Even much more then I ever expected. ICS is coming soon regarding to not only rumors but to an official commercial video from Samsung itself. And it is not just ics or angry birds launch but even further with all Spen capability improvements integrated into brand new system. Samsung rocks! I can't wait to flash it. Fell in love with NOTE once again
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Not sure 'Q2' is soon... it might have been bumped 3 months... i would have preferred 'early q2' at least...
Q2 is when? April? Say yes Sammy.
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looks kinda impressing I hope that it is going to be worth waiting...
Yessssssss...
Looks promising.. Let's hope it will come in april.. Q2 sounds longer..
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I agree. It does look promising. It's a major update. It was that worth for Samsung to release a tease video about it.
Was posted this morning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559130
You know what? I take back all of my anger regarding ICS being pushed back and having touchwiz over it.
To me, touchwiz is just an aesthetic matter (and not to mention not that bad of a launcher anyway).
However, I was really starting to get worried that there wouldn't be any extra spen functionality.
Hats of to Samsung for doing more than making the S pen just a gimmick, and leaving us with an oversized GSII.
(Besides, we can always use another launcher and/or code new roms from what we get in this new release)"
I'll tell you guys this much though- might as well wait for as long as we should, because it looks like after this update, it might be the last major thing that we get on this phone.
Think about it- with the GSIII coming, as well as the spec sheet having been out for the next-gen note for a while, probably 6-8 months later they will be capitalizing on the success of the first note.
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I'll tell you guys this much though- might as well wait for as long as we should, because it looks like after this update, it might be the last major thing that we get on this phone.
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I totally agree so much major update seems worth the wait. I'm settled down off my anger for ics has been delayed for good after watching the video. Unlike some other people here i use Smemo apps frequently and Spen spesific updates are as big deal as ics update to me. It's also been a nice suprise as nobody was expecting such update. I hope they figured out some ways that Smemo data to be synced on the cloud "automatically" with the update
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Think about it- with the GSIII coming, as well as the spec sheet having been out for the next-gen note for a while, probably 6-8 months later they will be capitalizing on the success of the first note.
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What specs do we know about the next gen Note ? I never heard such thing so far
Ok, where are the leaks? Need this now!!!
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What specs do we know about the next gen Note ? I never heard such thing so far
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Total hearsay, but this was released many months ago. http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/12/23/samsung-gt-n8010-could-be-a-next-generation-galaxy-note/
Why would it be surprising to see a quad-core note with more ram? That's really what the SGSIII is to the SII
sorry for ot. I promise not to derail the thread any longer.
Just another excuse for a delay. This is bull****.
They could have just made these apps available in Samsung App Store after they release ICS to us.
I love my SGN but the I'm getting tired of Samsung software support.
Definitely is going to be worth it.
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Aaw this video when I woke up and can't qait to try this.. Well it's truw though i had bad experience with promise such q2 or q3 thnx to RIM
But however i will wait since i still love my note and waiting couple months won't bother me..
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I would rather wait... if it means we're gonna get a fully baked ROM rather than the half-baked stuff that's often released. I hope for its users sake and for its reputation, that Samsung use this extra time to release something that is fully polished. Guaranteed, they will get lots of bad press if they don't.
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Well I am as pissed as anyone else here about the delay but I really can't understand the folks "threatening" to replace the Note with some other phone... do you see any alternative to the Note????
I don't see ANY, not by a long shot.
Personally, I would keep the Note even there was no ICS update at all, it's simply a matter of it being the ONLY REAL USEFUL AND USABLE SMARTPHONE out there.
Besides, on the LB1 ROM runs so well I haven't even updated it to LC1 yet (chronic lack of time..)
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Just another excuse for a delay. This is bull****.
They could have just made these apps available in Samsung App Store after they release ICS to us.
I love my SGN but the I'm getting tired of Samsung software support.
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Just another excuse for a delay. This is bull****.
They could have just made these apps available in Samsung App Store after they release ICS to us.
I love my SGN but the I'm getting tired of Samsung software support.
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availability in samsung apps does not warrant that everyone will download them. If samsung wants to include them as default apps I dont see any problems with it.
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Stop posting this! I have already locked one, use the ICS news sticky!
Well, This is the first time I make an useless thread in XDA, But I'm just really mad at how dead are the forums in S2 section.. Most of the developers moved to Galaxy S3, and I think the LG Optimus 4X and Transformer prime got a taste of CM10 already.
I've been checking twitter A LOT and almost none of the developers are working on S2, Codeworkx is working on i9100G and the rest on S3.
I'm not blaming the developers for leaving us, I mean not like they're forced to develop or they're getting paid. They're doing it for fun and some of them earn money from donations. And from what I've been reading, Jelly bean is hard to port on S2 because of the incompatible chips or something, they aren't open source friendly, but I mean, S2 is still in the main page as one of the most popular devices and actually no1 is trying to get CM10 to work on S2 /: when I saw Galaxy S3 I was like.. god that's an ugly phone and it uses pentile, the battery seems lame and they didn't use the dual core exynos that is faster, I don't remember the name of that processor, so i thought not many people would move to S3. I can afford a S3 but I think it's a waste of money when i have a S2 which is super fast and the screen is amazing, and to me, the design is better on S2.
IF you wanna post your thoughts about the development in S2 lately feel free, if not just leave this useless thread.
after all this is the general section about Galaxy S2. I'm just kinda sad and disapointed, when JB was released the CM team said it'd be super super easy to upgrade from ics to jb, again I'M NOT blaming the developers or trying to get anything with this thread, the developers are amazing persons that made a lot of things for our device already and i love em
has HTC seanstion got CM10? has Optimus 2X got Cm9 ?
So my dear foolish friend stop comparing ur phone with the latest ones and wait for a while !!
Sgs2 forum seems kinda dead in the couple of months and weeks lately and we can't blame the devs for having the latest toys to play with. Anyway, even though this is the general forum for sgs2 i don't think rant threads are accepted here. I have seen alot of threads like this being closed down. I suggest change the title and the message a bit in order for your thread to not be closed by the mods. I too want JB and so are the others, the best thing for us to do is wait for sammy or other devs to port JB in our device. Cheers!
Btw, by S3 you mean the U.S variants? Because the international version of Sgs3 has a quadcore exynos processor while the us variants have a dual core S4 processor.
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Well, This is the first time I make an useless thread in XDA, But I'm just really mad at how dead are the forums in S2 section.. Most of the developers moved to Galaxy S3, and I think the LG Optimus 4X and Transformer prime got a taste of CM10 already.
I've been checking twitter A LOT and almost none of the developers are working on S2, Codeworkx is working on i9100G and the rest on S3.
I'm not blaming the developers for leaving us, I mean not like they're forced to develop or they're getting paid. They're doing it for fun and some of them earn money from donations. And from what I've been reading, Jelly bean is hard to port on S2 because of the incompatible chips or something, they aren't open source friendly, but I mean, S2 is still in the main page as one of the most popular devices and actually no1 is trying to get CM10 to work on S2 /: when I saw Galaxy S3 I was like.. god that's an ugly phone and it uses pentile, the battery seems lame and they didn't use the dual core exynos that is faster, I don't remember the name of that processor, so i thought not many people would move to S3. I can afford a S3 but I think it's a waste of money when i have a S2 which is super fast and the screen is amazing, and to me, the design is better on S2.
IF you wanna post your thoughts about the development in S2 lately feel free, if not just leave this useless thread.
after all this is the general section about Galaxy S2. I'm just kinda sad and disapointed, when JB was released the CM team said it'd be super super easy to upgrade from ics to jb, again I'M NOT blaming the developers or trying to get anything with this thread, the developers are amazing persons that made a lot of things for our device already and i love em
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i agree with you! but something else made me an impression, the sgs2 community are a bunch of kids (i dont mean you exactly). if i open a thread and if i type "moron", "retard", "idiot" or some other offensive name calling i get instant results! why is that? why does everybody call the other some name? are you better than the rest? no.. have you done anything to contribute to the community (besides being a huge SoB)? no.. then shut up.. the HTC community is much more friendly, and best of all people are always trying to port something.. here we find 20 different versions of aokp, cm9 and so on.. basically exactly the same, but they've added their preferred fonts, wallpaper and all that crap. it's like that because the real developers you can count on your both hands.. the other ones are a joke.. if you put different tweaks, kernel, modem and you theme a rom.. that doent make you a developer.. developers develop.. they make programs, port roms, make things that dont work or arent compatible - compatible and working.
THAT's MY opinion.. agree with it or not
It is my 3rd day using s2 coz my nephew get himself an s3..
Prreviously i was using an s1 and the development for it was great!
I was kind of hoping s2 has the great development just like s1
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It is my 3rd day using s2 coz my nephew get himself an s3..
Prreviously i was using an s1 and the development for it was great!
I was kind of hoping s2 has the great development just like s1
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I feel the same. But I am patient waiting for Samsung to release a source code and then CM10 will surely happen to S2 as well... I am also trying to trade my s2 with a Nexus but can`t find some one to do so. Anyways, CM is great and they are doing a great job. Keep up the good work guys!
Stop whining ...
It's kind of true ... thinks really slowed down a lot!
We might expect:
- official 4.0.4 rolling out july - august (for sure)
- official 4.1 this year (maby)
But cm10 undoubtedly will become a very good alternative due time, expanding life of my smartphone a year or even two.
I have no problem using my beautiful phone as a ... phone ... instead of using it as an ongoing development project
If one is addicted to a daily firmware fix ... then stop whining and move on to then next hot piece of hardware
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i agree with you! but something else made me an impression, the sgs2 community are a bunch of kids (i dont mean you exactly). if i open a thread and if i type "moron", "retard", "idiot" or some other offensive name calling i get instant results! why is that? why does everybody call the other some name? are you better than the rest? no.. have you done anything to contribute to the community (besides being a huge SoB)? no.. then shut up.. the HTC community is much more friendly, and best of all people are always trying to port something.. here we find 20 different versions of aokp, cm9 and so on.. basically exactly the same, but they've added their preferred fonts, wallpaper and all that crap. it's like that because the real developers you can count on your both hands.. the other ones are a joke.. if you put different tweaks, kernel, modem and you theme a rom.. that doent make you a developer.. developers develop.. they make programs, port roms, make things that dont work or arent compatible - compatible and working.
THAT's MY opinion.. agree with it or not
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I totally agree with your point on having different versions of the same ROM with only changed icons, wallpapers and other non sense stuff. No new feature addition or anything of that sort.
Thats why I'm either on Samsung's Official ROM or on CM9.....coz both of them are unique in their own way. Others are simply tweaks of these 2 ROMs only.
Sorry, I find MIUI pretty lame....
If codeworx would see this he would say blame samsung
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No one likes to work on the S II. Codeworkx is working more on the i9100G because it's OMAP, lot more easier [and fking great, his words] than Exynos. The S I development is better than the S II, because the S I hardware is very similar to the Nexus One, so, nexus... you know. The Galaxy S JB will be better than the Galaxy S II JB. That's why, and more things, I really want to sell my S II and buy the Galaxy Nexus. The hardware of the Nexus is just a bit [really bit] lower than the S II. But with JB it just turns the Nexus a kickass phone, much better than the S II. Most likely S II won't get JB, even Samsung is tired of working on it.
So, +1 to your ideas.
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If codeworx would see this he would say blame samsung
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I'm blaming samsung
ephraim033 said:
Sgs2 forum seems kinda dead in the couple of months and weeks lately and we can't blame the devs for having the latest toys to play with. Anyway, even though this is the general forum for sgs2 i don't think rant threads are accepted here. I have seen alot of threads like this being closed down. I suggest change the title and the message a bit in order for your thread to not be closed by the mods. I too want JB and so are the others, the best thing for us to do is wait for sammy or other devs to port JB in our device. Cheers!
Btw, by S3 you mean the U.S variants? Because the international version of Sgs3 has a quadcore exynos processor while the us variants have a dual core S4 processor.
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There's a dual core exynos that runs better than the quadcore I don't remember the name, and thanks i'll take your advice and change the title
There's still some hope.
SGS2 isn't flagship device. however even if Galaxy Note would be promised JB devs will get some blobs.
If I remember also the Galaxy Tab 2 and 7" variants are Exynos means some support could be get from those.
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when I saw Galaxy S3 I was like.. god that's an ugly phone and it uses pentile, the battery seems lame and they didn't use the dual core exynos that is faster, I don't remember the name of that processor, so i thought not many people would move to S3. I can afford a S3 but I think it's a waste of money when i have a S2 which is super fast and the screen is amazing, and to me, the design is better on S2.
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Pentile seems bad on a spec sheet, but in real life the implementation is stunning. Once I tried out the S3 I just had to have it, but I'm surprised how quickly everyone that used to be here have moved on to the S3.
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Pentile seems bad on a spec sheet, but in real life the implementation is stunning. Once I tried out the S3 I just had to have it, but I'm surprised how quickly everyone that used to be here have moved on to the S3.
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Well if everybody has tons of money it's obvious!
Personally I bought my S2 a year ago and I don't have the money to buy an S3! I was so happy when they announced jelly bean, because I knew the S2 has a big community and I thought it would have seen JB soon, but now I'm realizing that the developers have abandoned our device! What can I say, I'm really really disappointed! I will never buy another non-nexus device! Never never never never! Just wait one more year, Samsung will release another super device, all the developers will move to that device (with the money that users donate....) and then the S3 will no longer be supported. I've already said it, and I'm gonna say it again, This is not the spirit of android!
>no one is working on jb for the S2
Not true, codeworx and espenfjo are working on it, plus other devs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28679156
I say, just be patient and wait, it's not like CM will abandon the S2, it'll just take more time comparing to other, more open, devices.
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ant987 said:
Well if everybody has tons of money it's obvious!
Personally I bought my S2 a year ago and I don't have the money to buy an S3! I was so happy when they announced jelly bean, because I knew the S2 has a big community and I thought it would have seen JB soon, but now I'm realizing that the developers have abandoned our device! What can I say, I'm really really disappointed! I will never buy another non-nexus device! Never never never never! Just wait one more year, Samsung will release another super device, all the developers will move to that device (with the money that users donate....) and then the S3 will no longer be supported. I've already said it, and I'm gonna say it again, This is not the spirit of android!
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the same happened to me.. i had a big hope and now i see everyone is getting JB and we havn't even started /: It feels weird you know, we're used to get all the updates and now S2 is dead. I also bought my galaxy S2 and since then i check the forums daily for updates, new kernels, roms etc, I've flashed over 100 roms or even more. Am I the only one that feels like the S3 isn't worth it if you have a S2? D:
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>no one is working on jb for the S2
Not true, codeworx and espenfjo are working on it, plus other devs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28679156
I say, just be patient and wait, it's not like CM will abandon the S2, it'll just take more time comparing to other, more open, devices.
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Codeworkx is only working on i9100G I stalk his twitter a lot and that post is old but yea, we have to be patient and stop rushing the devs (If there r any still here)
But GT-I9100G is much easier to port since has a more open hardware, who would start from the hardest thing first and then leave the easiest for last? If it's easier you can get things done faster and later use the knowledge gained on the harder task.
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Is anyone up for the idea to start a collection to buy the CM team a N7100 so they can start working on getting us cm10?
When I spoke to xplodwild this was his reply
Guillaume (@xplodwild) tweeted at 7:21 PM on Fri, Oct 05, 2012:
@iseeguy Assuming someone do it, because as of now nobody have one neither wants to buy one.
(https://twitter.com/xplodwild/status/254149189792047104)
I'm happy to organise this with the CM team to kickoff development
Who's thinks it's a good idea?
I've donated to previous initiatives and will again
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
This is why I'll keep my note 1
Already on Jb PA
Maybe when development for the note 2 is already a big boy is change for it. Probably not.
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Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Well said!
Far enough, but it was worth a try
Can the mods please delete this thread.
Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Entropy512 said:
Just an FYI:
I not only have no interest in purchasing a device, but if you gave me a free one and offered $2000, I would say no.
I have better things to do than waste countless hours of my time fighting another non-Nexus Exynos.
xplodwild may be more receptive to continuing with Exynos, but at least in the case of myself and codeworkx, we are done. Our current devices are going to be our last Exynos devices unless Samsung makes major changes.
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Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
I completely support this especially if its just for a dev to do it unofficially, but remember guys we can't hold the dev responsible for getting it done. You have to go into thinking your donating for the dev to have the phone and use it as they like not donate thinking your donating for that dev to be obligated to bring cm10. In the rezound forum we got a phone for protekk to help with aosp and people got demanding and were expecting him to bring it since they donated. This tore apart that community for a long time. So if you donate do it as a donation and not an expectation
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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I would say that Paranoid Android is absolutely perfect for the Note. S-Pen can be handled through different applications like GNote, Memo etc. The ability to run applications in tablet mode is such an enhancement of the device that I don´t see any single feature with the Note II that somehow "compensates".
I can agree that pure CM10 isn´t the most interesting thing on the Note II since it has the phone UI but Paranoid Android is a completely different matter.
Since PA relies on CM, it is very important to get it for the N7100 in order to get going.
Windowed applications is very nice but also a feature I guess will be implemented in either AOSP or CM in the future. Don´t forget Overskreen and FloatNote etc.
I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Really don't see any redeeming quality to putting cm10 on this device. The software makes this device what it is. Taking all that away makes it nothing more than a mini nexus 7. Nothing against cm10. It's great on most devices... But you are really devaluing the note by neuturing it of 75 percent of its features. This is kinda like running linux on a ps3. Yeah its neat to say you did it, but good luck playing a ps3 game.
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Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
ipguy said:
Let's be honest here for just one moment, the Samsung S apps and the stylus are gimmicks that will be used once when the note is purchased then abandoned. I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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erick161 said:
To you, but to many others (the majority of people) what Samsung is doing with features is why they are making the purchase. Honestly its mainly because of the new features as to why I'm going to upgade. I'll still have my OG note running PA CM10, which I love.
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Let agree to disagree then!
CurrentlyPissed said:
Sounds like you lost your passion, and the reason you started doing this. Since when did people do it for it being easy? That is beyond dissapointing. I think you forgot how this all started sir.
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There's a difference between challenging, and utterly freaking impossible.
Challenging: Going through source and fixing bugs or adding new features. For example, for months I've wanted to try and rework the Exynos suspend/resume code to be more power efficient. (It locks cpufreq at 800 MHz and disables cpuidle for the entire suspend/resume cycle, which eats power. Also SOME interrupt service handler eats huge amounts of CPU on resume (the root cause of the classic Gingerbread "Android OS" bugs), and I'd like to figure out which one and see if it can be optimized.
Utterly freaking impossible: On a routine basis, figuring out what Samsung broke in their blobs and why it doesn't work the way it should. Trying to take totally broken nonfunctional source code and get it to work properly with zero documentation. See hwcomposer - unless a miracle happens, we will be continually stuck fighting blobs that Samsung gave us. Their blobs have some sort of significant magic not present in any reference source. The reference source creates a broken piece of **** that's almost indistinguishable from not having any hwc at all.
I've spent 10-20 hours or more per week of my spare time over the past three weeks fighting hwcomposer and making absolutely zero progress. I'm tired of flailing against a brick wall and getting nothing other than bloody knuckles.
jbounours said:
I thought at first porting CM10 would be easy in it's current state due to shared hardware with S3. I would understand if they dropped future exynos but this is an existing thing already with minor differences.
I would donate too if we can see a new maintainer taking on the device. Would be a shame not having CM on the device. It brings so much stuff for what it is and also other devs bringing their extra tweaks on top of it. A wonderful ecosystem I wanna to see and follow on xda and my device =(
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No, porting CM10 won't be easy due to shared hardware with the S3. Have you noticed no Exynos device has M builds? Have you noticed that Exynos devices are almost always one of the last "flagship-class" devices to receive nightlies?
CM9 should never have been marked stable on Exynos devices - too many bugs remain and we lowered our standards for "stable" too much.
CM10 on Exynos is incredibly far from reaching M builds let alone a stable release and I don't think we have the manpower, motivation, or energy to take it to to the finish line, let alone the documentation needed to do so.
And what about CM11? The whole mess will just start all over again, if any maintainers are left on Exynos by then. Again, we'll be flailing against undocumented crap that didn't even quite work right with the Android version it was designed for, while those working on platforms that have proper documentation and reference source (OMAP and Qualcomm) will start moving ahead immediately. See JB on Qcoms - They took only a month or two to get ahead of where Exynos4 devices are NOW, 4-5 months after JB went live, and over half of the work those guys were doing was forward-merging CM customizations from CM9.
ipguy said:
I've owned the original note and now the note 2 and I never once pickup up the stylus for anything
What's more valuable is a fast, smooth and reliable OS
Just my opinion of course.
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Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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ithehappy said:
Then I wonder why did you buy Note at first place! IMO it's that S-Pen which makes this Note series special than other flagships like S series, and in Note II it has just gotten better.
And about your 2nd paragraph, say whatever, but kindly exclude the word 'reliable' from that list.
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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To me a reliable OS is all that matters. But you didn't get the point what I've tried to say.
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ipguy said:
I purchased the note for the screen size mainly.
Isn't a reliable OS important?
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That's the primary reason I got my Note. Even if it didn't have a stylus I would've bought it for the screen.
Also, there are now plenty of pen apps that use the standard Android stylus APIs, so the Samsung-specific stuff is irrelevant at this point. For example, PS Touch works just fine on the Note 10.1 in AOSP. So does Quill, Papyrus, Memo Beta, LectureNotes, and a number of other apps.
The only thing beyond that which is missing are stylus gestures, and that's primarily an issue of manpower. I would've forward ported and cleaned up masiullah's pen gestures patches a month or two ago if there weren't a pile of other massively broken things unrelated to stylus.