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Where is Flash 10.1

Ok so now that I've gotten your attention with the o' so "loud and in your face" title of this post, on to the main point. I'm REALLY dissapointed that samsung hasn't stepped up to the plate and included flash with the latest update, leaked or not, 2.1 or not. I'm tired of having to use that piece o' crap skyfire broweser that only works half the time on certain sites, and that's if I lucky. It seems to me that this phone may be destined for the veritable technological garbage dump that so many other phones have been. Samsung has yet to deliver on ANY of the promised fixes, including froyo, although maybe this leaked version of the update isn't the final one, and I'm starting to doubt if we'll EVER see froyo. Is anyone else as pissed off as me? All I know is I'm gonna boot my vibrant for a n1 if something doesn't happen soon. Sorry to any mods or users for the incoherent rant and/or cursing in the aforementioned post, I'm just venting.

Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaaaaah

volkl23 said:
Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaaaaah
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh indeed.

They just launched the Fascinate, and now they have their phone on all carriers. Sure, it would have been great to have Froyo by now, or launch the Fascinate with Froyo, but I don't think they'd want to fragment their US Galaxy S so much. I'm sure it will come, especially now that all the phones are out. I have a feeling they are going to develop Froyo for all the Galaxy's at the same time. Whether the carriers decide to push out Froyo as soon as it's ready is another question.

idiosyncrisia said:
They just launched the Fascinate, and now they have their phone on all carriers. Sure, it would have been great to have Froyo by now, or launch the Fascinate with Froyo, but I don't think they'd want to fragment their US Galaxy S so much. I'm sure it will come, especially now that all the phones are out. I have a feeling they are going to develop Froyo for all the Galaxy's at the same time. Whether the carriers decide to push out Froyo as soon as it's ready is another question.
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I suppose ur right, and releasing froyo for all the galaxy s phones at the same time would make sense. Now I suppose the real question is, which is closer, cyanogenmod or an official froyo update from sammy?

Seriously I can understand peoples frustrations but venting on the forum isn't going to change a thing. The OTA for Froyo is speculated to be released in September and its still September isn't it? On that note it's only speculated not confirmed. People are in fact working on getting 2.2 to our phones not just Samsung, all I can say is be patient. If you don't want to be patient then shut up and get a G2 when its released if we don't have Froyo by then.

Genesis1791 said:
Seriously I can understand peoples frustrations but venting on the forum isn't going to change a thing. The OTA for Froyo is speculated to be released in September and its still September isn't it? On that note it's only speculated not confirmed. People are in fact working on getting 2.2 to our phones not just Samsung, all I can say is be patient. If you don't want to be patient then shut up and get a G2 when its released if we don't have Froyo by then.
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point taken.

I feel you, but the the vibrant has to many pros to just give up on it right now its still early.... Its truly a powerfull device everytime I show a iphone fan boy this phone they give it props they cant hate on it
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1)Adobe has limited flash 10.1 to Android 2.2 phones only.
2)The Galaxy S line doesn't have Froyo yet.
3)You're an idiot.

i couldn't imagine frequenting enough flash sites on my laptop/desktop to make me want flash this badly on my mobile device...

Well I kinda understand the frustration in the OP as flash support means a lot more on the web. I miss watching news clips on CNN website and shows on Hulu on the gorgeous Vibrant screen. But I have no doubt about Samsung's commitment to Galaxy S especially after reading the results of leaked firmware. Instead of losing patience and shouting in forum I would wait for Sammy to roll out a stable Froyo update on this fantastic phone and then enjoy all the goodies. I am sure nobody still has question on whether Vibrant will get Froyo or not after seeing all those videos of european version running froyo. It may be September or October, but I can wait.

rakeshchn said:
Well I kinda understand the frustration in the OP as flash support means a lot more on the web. I miss watching news clips on CNN website and shows on Hulu on the gorgeous Vibrant screen. But I have no doubt about Samsung's commitment to Galaxy S especially after reading the results of leaked firmware. Instead of losing patience and shouting in forum I would wait for Sammy to roll out a stable Froyo update on this fantastic phone and then enjoy all the goodies. I am sure nobody still has question on whether Vibrant will get Froyo or not after seeing all those videos of european version running froyo. It may be September or October, but I can wait.
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yeah, i'll admit to being impatient, just one of my quirks i guess But yeah, flash means A LOT to me, and so would netflix as a matter of fact, but I digress. Anyway, I'll give it another month and see what happens, thank god I didn't buy my phone with a contract, even more plus all the way hehe.

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I'll give it another month and see what happens.
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Dont worry my friend....i have a good feeling that we wont be disapponted.

Flash does make the experience a whole heck of a lot better ..

bobofosho123 said:
Ok so now that I've gotten your attention with the o' so "loud and in your face" title of this post, on to the main point. I'm REALLY dissapointed that samsung hasn't stepped up to the plate and included flash with the latest update, leaked or not, 2.1 or not. I'm tired of having to use that piece o' crap skyfire broweser that only works half the time on certain sites, and that's if I lucky. It seems to me that this phone may be destined for the veritable technological garbage dump that so many other phones have been. Samsung has yet to deliver on ANY of the promised fixes, including froyo, although maybe this leaked version of the update isn't the final one, and I'm starting to doubt if we'll EVER see froyo. Is anyone else as pissed off as me? All I know is I'm gonna boot my vibrant for a n1 if something doesn't happen soon. Sorry to any mods or users for the incoherent rant and/or cursing in the aforementioned post, I'm just venting.
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you sound like smashpunks. chill out

It hurts so much since the phone is so powerful, but it's like Samsung doesn't want to give it the one thing it truly needs to dominate the rest of the pack. I'm tired of seeing the Nexus 1 on the top of every benchmark when we all know the hummingbirds will eat those snapdragons for breakfast.
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qreffie said:
It hurts so much since the phone is so powerful, but it's like Samsung doesn't want to give it the one thing it truly needs to dominate the rest of the pack. I'm tired of seeing the Nexus 1 on the top of every benchmark when we all know the hummingbirds will eat those snapdragons for breakfast.
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This image disagrees with you.
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Not to be an ass but, why don't you use the advanced version so we can see the CPU gain and not just the lagfix gain. The lagfix makes some things faster and other things slower...the original lagfix that is. I haven't used the voodoo one, so I can't comment on it. I know there is a CPU gain on yours as the most I've seen just with lagfix is in the 2200's. So I assume you have a different rom and/or OC'ing.

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Not necessarily. Your custom rom is on top, but a stock Galaxy S is still below a Nexus 1 running froyo. If we want to throw mods in the game, a custom N1 or Droid 2 may beat yours because they have froyo and you don't.
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raduque said:
1)Adobe has limited flash 10.1 to Android 2.2 phones only.
2)The Galaxy S line doesn't have Froyo yet.
3)You're an idiot.
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1. if you're on this forum, you should know, you can use flash 10.1 on android 2.1 phones, just limited to HTC ones
2. the galaxy s line does have hacked froyo on it, just look through the forums
3. idc about this comment
anyway, we'll get froyo soon enough, look at the evidence, it's been confirmed already, maybe not for a specific one in a specific country, but hey, once one country is out, others follow quick, besides, the galaxy tab, which is basically the same hardware as the galaxy s, runs froyo, it's probably the bug fixes thats taking them a while, be patient and you'll get it
edit: forgot to add, you can use skyfire, you got a galaxy s, skyfire will not lag at all, its a browser that has full flash capabilities, and actually the video button thing is better than having youtube playing a video straight out, at least you can control it that way, but yea, skyfire, look in tha market

Samsung working on a new FAST Rom - Release in November ?

SamFirmware have tweeted that Samsung are working on a new fast rom to be released in November ? Possible to UK and so on ?
Maybe they have seen that SGS is not running at peak performance ?
Anyone else have news on this ?

samsung is full of lies, i'll believe it when i see it,
I love their devices, but the support leaves a lot to be desired.

Lets hope it , till than voodoo which works great!
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How many times have they said is going to be released and then they say.. sorry next week.. next month.. is like the kid that cries wolf
Don't know know now to care anymore or to be excited then come November they will say December.. very unprofessional if used ask me.
According to samfirmware Samsung are also thinking of going ginger bread for galaxy s... yea maybe by 2012
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Several reports say the scandinavian 2.2 kies release has been pulled...

from [email protected]:
'We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S.'
LoL, how about that to puzzle your mind

pmos69 said:
Several reports say the scandinavian 2.2 kies release has been pulled...
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I don't honestly see why they would do that...
Glad I got it while I could though

As they are thinking about Gingerbread, they will probably announce they are ditching 2.2 to focus on getting 3.0 onto the SGS, lol

Darkimmortal said:
I don't honestly see why they would do that...
Glad I got it while I could though
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psp888 said:
As they are thinking about Gingerbread, they will probably announce they are ditching 2.2 to focus on getting 3.0 onto the SGS, lol
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Some say that gingerbread will be 2.5 :O
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yea... i'll believe it when i see it as well.
it's samsung don't forget. Great product, terrible support (although comming from an Omnia II with absolute 0 support, they are getting better)
They still lack the experience of HTC and such in high end smarphones for tech savy ppl

Same $hit, Same smell = Samsung......

Will.1 said:
yea... i'll believe it when i see it as well.
it's samsung don't forget. Great product, terrible support (although comming from an Omnia II with absolute 0 support, they are getting better)
They still lack the experience of HTC and such in high end smarphones for tech savy ppl
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With the Galaxy S, I became a new Samsung Mobile customer and I'm a little bit disappointed. Not because of the froyo delays, i can survive that. But the lack with standard rfs is horrible given the technical specs this phone has.
Nevertheless, Samsung is one of the best manufactures for notebooks and TVs. In Germany, their support for notebooks is perfect. I've got experiences for a long time with these guys...
Let's wait a few more weeks, life goes on.

If Samsung are seriously considering Gingerbread they will need to up their game - their current speed of development is appalling. If Gingerbread becomes the most popular Android platform in the near future I will definitely consider selling and switching to HTC (Desire Z/HD)

snapper87 said:
With the Galaxy S, I became a new Samsung Mobile customer and I'm a little bit disappointed. Not because of the froyo delays, i can survive that. But the lack with standard rfs is horrible given the technical specs this phone has.
Nevertheless, Samsung is one of the best manufactures for notebooks and TVs. In Germany, their support for notebooks is perfect. I've got experiences for a long time with these guys...
Let's wait a few more weeks, life goes on.
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Yes they are a great company, just don't have a clue about firmware development.
Symbian on Samsung sucked, bada sucks and now android on Samsung sucks as well. They should just focus on the hardware and leave the firmware development to Google. That's not ever going to happen though so I guess we'll just wait for the next nexus, which I still believe will be developed eventually.
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schiphol said:
Yes they are a great company, just don't have a clue about firmware development.
Symbian on Samsung sucked, bada sucks and now android on Samsung sucks as well. They should just focus on the hardware and leave the firmware development to Google. That's not ever going to happen though so I guess we'll just wait for the next nexus, which I still believe will be developed eventually.
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I don't really think it sucks. You are exaggerating. JP6 is fine for me even without any tweaks. Putting the Tab Browser lib and voodoo makes it very very good. I've seen lots of android (and not only) smartphones and the SGS is miles ahead.
I believe most of the people here are just whiners, whatever product they use.

huxflux2003 said:
I don't really think it sucks. You are exaggerating. JP6 is fine for me even without any tweaks. Putting the Tab Browser lib and voodoo makes it very very good. I've seen lots of android (and not only) smartphones and the SGS is miles ahead.
I believe most of the people here are just whiners, whatever product they use.
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I agree with your statement.
People need to remember that the Galaxy S phones have been in the market place for only about four months now. Many so-called "promises" have been speculative promises by random people, not by Samsung. They only promised to release the Froyo update when it's ready around September or October, and they are trying to keep that promise with the recent release in Europe. If you have any understanding of the software development and testing process, providing a major update in four months after the initial release of the product isn't great but not horrible as people say. Besides, we have great fixes that make the phone work really well now anyway. Just use these fixes and be a little patient! ^^ I love my Galaxy S for now...many thanks to VooDoo project and Samsung for at least giving us a great HW device!
BTW, I heard, from the most popular Korean Android website community- iroidcafe, that they discovered some issues with the JPM version and therefore, are pulling the release momentarily to fix the discovered issues before continuing to release the Froyo to the rest.

opica said:
from [email protected]:
'We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S.'
LoL, how about that to puzzle your mind
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Wait Samsung are thinking? Didn't know they could do that. If they thought about it a little, they would take care of their customers better. A modern-day twelve year old has a higher level of skill in communication than their entire PR section. Actually, based on the mess they call Kies, that twelve year old might be better at programming, too...
Their hardware is pretty awesome though.
OK returning to subject, loosely translated that means a 5-10% faster ROM is coming out in february? march maybe? I have stopped believing them a while ago.

who cares?
I can't upgrade to it anyway, until now I can't make Kies working for my SGS..
(still have no gut to flash using odin..)

Samsung = the worst aftersale support I have ever experienced. And, I haven't had major issues. I would hate to think what it would be like if this phone started playing up (like for some on this forum). Really gives Android the bad name. Hardware = top of the line, no argument about this.
Here is a noble idea Samsung. Spending a little more on your communication to the public will increase our support for your brand. Don't lie or guess. Over estimate rfs dates for releases. You will be suprised how long people are prepared to wait, if they know the exact date. If you company has no credibility with your customers however, no matter what promises you will be making, you simply will be laughed at.
I personally do not believe anything that Samsung are saying. This is my first and the last purchase from this company.

hm.. next phone??

After owning the galaxy there's no question in my mind most of us will remain with Samsung and android especially people who use custom Roms. But what's next after having this amazing phone?
It has been a year now since I've had mine, and obviously its soon time to upgrade.
For me I think ill skip the galaxy Note... I don't think its worth the upgrade just yet.

CES is just round the corner, and something else after that I think? I'm holding out to see whether Samsung's planning an SIII for this half of the year. We've already seen a supposed leaked shot taken from a device with the product code i9500 from inside a Samsung office.... It seems fairly probable that we'll see something by February as we have for the last 2 years. What are other peoples thoughts?

Personally, I am really disappointed with Samsung leaving 10 million plus SGS owners off the ICS train (especially because of their touchwiz that sucks), and I wanna show it to them by not buying their products. I'm still waiting for a stable custom ics sgs rom. I would have eyed the galaxy nexus, but it kind of bothers me that it's samsung. but it does not have the touchwiz and will get updates fast.
I'm quite fed up with the so called android fragmentation, but don't want to go the apple way. I want more nexus-like products with clean android and fast updates. Guess I'm screwed...
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fabecoool said:
Personally, I am really disappointed with Samsung leaving 10 million plus SGS owners off the ICS train (especially because of their touchwiz that sucks), and I wanna show it to them by not buying their products.
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I don't think we are being left off the ICS train...
ubergizmo.com/2012/01/samsung-value-pack-is-ice-cream-sandwich-with-a-lite-version-of-touchwiz
Somebody mis-translated the original Korean statement and it all went a bit mad on here. No reason to boycott Samsung anymore.

Im hoping the S3 isn't too far around the corner. As much as I would have gone for the recent Nexus S or whatever it is, its specs leave me cold. No memory slot? Pfft.

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Im hoping the S3 isn't too far around the corner. As much as I would have gone for the recent Nexus S or whatever it is, its specs leave me cold. No memory slot? Pfft.
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+1 probably get the S3
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After one year with my SGS I'm still totally satisfied with it. I can read ebooks, play games or watch movies without any problems. Currently I don't need more memory, higer resolution screen or multicore processor. But perhaps when SGS III hits the market and devs/modders will start playing with it, I'll probably buy it.

I'm waiting for the s3. Hope it is announced at the CES
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I suggest you buy the Galaxy nexus, it's great!

This value pack does sound a little cheap. I bet its a few new wallpapers Haha. I personally like Samsung a lot but I'm disappointed by the decision.
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but still, it is better than samsung doing nothing
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The value pack isn't happening.
To OP: Wait for the SIII. The Note is just ridiculously oversized for a phone. I have seen people talking on it, and it looks stupid. You might as well walk around with a laptop stuck to your face. That way, at least no one can tell who you are.

I'm waiting. For the moment i'm satisfied with my Galaxy S. No need (for me) to buy a new one. And there will be new Roms for it,too.
The Galaxy note isn't a Smartphone - it's a very small tablet. For a smartphone it's too big, and for a tablet too small. Odd product.

SGS3. Nothing else.
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I think I'm lucky in that my contract ends in November and when I sign up for a new one (not sure with whom yet), I will get a new phone. If the S3 comes out in the 1st half of 1012, by November, it will be less expensive and I can get it cheaper.
I am super happy with my SGS and for what I use my phone for, I don't really need a new one, but I guess for 4G or LTE it's worth it, and it will be cheap since I will get it on a contract.
Ian

same here i can change phone in december, and am waiting for post ces releases to see what comes next, anything with tegra 3 or samsungs equivalent

will be waiting for galaxy S III,should be a spectacular device.

am thinking of the galaxy nexus or galaxy s III

Upgrade Advice: SGS II vs GNex

Dear xda,
To many of you this may seem like a stupid question, and are probably thinking "this idiot should just go do some research" - I already have. I can get an upgrade as early as the 28th March (Just over a month away). I am not considering the SGS II (I already know it will be too expensive)
So this is what I know to make my decision upon, any other developments, user experiences welcome.
Galaxy Nexus Pros:
-Google ICS
-Will receive latest updates
-4.65" Screen 720x1280 HD
-Aesthetically pleasing
Galaxy Nexus Cons:
-PenTile matrix screen [everyone or reddit says not to worry, this screen is the **** and a lot better than sgsII's)
-Price
-Worse Camera than SGS II
-Worse GPU than SGS II
-Worse CPU??
Galaxy S II Pros:
-Getting ICS
-Cheap (£26pcm - will drop with release of SGS III)
-Awesome hardware
Galaxy S II Cons:
-Smaller screen than GNex 4.2" 480x800 WVGA
-Almost a year old (however still comparable to Gnex which is a "brand new" device)
-Not sure: worse android development than GNex??
Also on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/q19aa/upgrade_advice_galaxy_nexus_vs_samsung_galaxy_s_ii/

By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...

ClaudiuJer said:
By March 28 the SIII will probably be revealed...
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May last I heard, but it'll be way too expensive, the only benefit it will give me is drive down the prices of those two phones.

Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.

From a specs standpoint, the practical difference in high end Android devices is absolutely nothing. You aren't doing any computationally intensive operations like compiling source code or video conversions. You're running games and social media apps and texting and looking at emails.
Sure, the GSII has more megapixels, but I can't tell a difference in the picture quality. Plus, the Galaxy Nexus has a much fast shutter speed, which more than makes up for the 3 megapixels it's giving to the GSII.
The screen surface of the Galaxy Nexus is smoother than the screen surface of the GSII. I have no idea why, but the GSII isn't nearly as easy to fling your thumb across and shows fingerprints more.
The Galaxy Nexus has a recovery partition, the GSII doesn't. The Galaxy Nexus development is thriving and probably has 5 or 6 ROMs that are built from Android Source. There are 2 AOSP roms for GSII and several Samsung-based ROMs.
Really, I love both of the phones. There are ALWAYS better phones on the horizon. Always. Don't wait.

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Yes wait for a couple of months or you will repent for sure. Both the devices you have shortlisted will be outdated soon.
Sorry to say this here, but looks like Windows Phone 7 is also a good platform.
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Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
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There are new midrange phones expected from HTC. Waiting will be the best choice at the moment.
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No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
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Prices will come down but I don't think by that much as this is still a powerful phone. It's selling well and I doubt we will see the SGS3 that early as most likely they will try to have a same timeish global launch considering it's pretty new in the States. I personally think they will try to compete with the iPhone 5 than anything else so may get a delayed launch but that's just what I think!
Hold tight as rumours it may get announced at the Amsterdam event next month so we may or may not get an indication of release date.
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I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).

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Nononononononono, no windows, no. lol, nah I'm sticking to what I know, screw WP or iOS - Android is the future, plus I've got a ton of paid apps.
No more HTC - do not like sense, and my HTC Desire has had a horrible track record of breaking, only good thing I can think of is customer service.
I'm in no rush anyway if I'm honest, the earliest I can upgrade is the 28th March (officially ends June 28th), I just want to know where I stand with phones so I can get right in there and not have to ponder too much about what I'm going to go for. It's funny to see the idiot salesmen try to push crap onto you though (I was told the Buzz is better than the Bravo when I was getting it).
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Definitely will upgrade to Galaxy Nexus from current SGS II
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I will recomand SGSII i had GNex and was a bit dissapointing,a little bit laggy worse camera and the build quality is not so good

I would go for the galaxy nexus 100%. If i had the choice i would myself or wait for the s3. But nexus will get updates quicker and its "pure".
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Not nearly all nexuses are getting updates straight from google, also it has lots of pixels so lots of work to do for gpu so it might be a bit laggy
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The buttons being on-screen on the Nexus would worry me a bit, they're going to cause some annoying screen burn.
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had the Gnex for a week. Its really overhyped, im sorry to say. There is actually nothing i really preferred over the SGS2. Even the screen was not as bright and vibrant.
Go with the sgs2.

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shame on you Samsung!

Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.

i hope i wont get decent scratches on my gorilla glas :O
but u should be always know that samsung isnt the fastest in updating phones
when getting my galaxy s1 i got the update after 6 months promising that the update will come blabla..
i wont rely on samsungsupport anymore cous we have great developers bringing out better roms then samsung ever can!!

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Totally agree with you...but about the call recording issue try to flash non stock rom...

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it.
Having an outdated OS sucks, or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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You must understand that its not just Samsung that controls the roll out of the updates, they have to coordinate with operators around the world to roll out any updates because of so much operator specific **** that comes along with the phones.
Yes, Samsung can do better but name one OEM who has done better? HTC? Sony (Ericsson)? Motorola? Its all the same in Android club, sir. Only if you have a Google AOSP phone, you can rely on fast updates.
Begs a question- All competing platforms are calculated and reserved with updates- Why does Google has to release one major
OS release every 6 months? Why can't they have consolidated single annual update cycles?
Anyway, you are at XDA- the motherlode! Why do you wait for official updates when there are several talented devs bringing you top notch releases before OEMs do. Just root it and forget it!

Qvp said:
Well.. yeah the galaxy is an awesome mobile phone, few doubts about it.we all agree
But why stall us all and delay the release of ICS? on december 2011 when I bought the note, I was told that the galaxy nexus has a better OS, but that Gnote should get it soon, therefore I bought it. never buy something for what it might become
Having an outdated OS sucks,95% of android devices outthere actually run GB I wouldn't call tht outdated or at least it sucks when you expect it to actually update. Maybe nextime when we buy a phone we'll tell samsung that in q1 2012 we'll pay but delay them too.Samsung doesn't give credit so i guess you'll stay with your old phone
Other than that, my screen has a decent scratch on it... but it doesn't really bother me, so much for gorilla glass.it seems to bother you if not why inform the world
Oh and with the new firmwares its impossible to record a call by using sanity. Those audio patches just silent the whole phone instead of allowing sanity to record.
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Those are all beta, so not perfect

Ics makes a few tweaks thats all not end of the world so what we have to wait im sorry but the phones is excellent regardless its not like ics will make this phone earth shattingly better it will make stuff all difference in the long run.
I cant wait until they release ics. Because i promise you this we will see this type of thread disappear to be replaced with. "why did samsung release this when it has bugs" or "when do we expect jelly bean" or " "Now we have ics do you think samsung will abandon the note with jellybean"
Im sorry to be negative but the note forum has jsut turned into a whinging forum.
Maybe mods could set up a vent your rant thread as not to over inflate this forum any more than it is
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What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
The majority of users are not the ones that frequent XDA. The majority of users
just use the phone as a phone, email & internet device.
The "1%ers" try to squeeze every little bit out of it.
I use around 2400 minutes a month on the phone, 2-300 text messages & around 100-200 emails. No games, no huge amount of data. Maybe 1-2 gig per month.
Personally, I'm holding off on ICS until it's been "official" for a few weeks.
GB is tweaked to the point, at least on my device, that it is fast & stable.
You know ICS will need a few revisions before it is really as stable as GB.
If it wasn't for the "1%ers", I doubt these devices would be as good as they are, but, for the majority of users, I just don't see ICS being that big of a deal.

friedje said:
Those are all beta, so not perfect
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Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
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sorry I forgot to thank you for pointing out that "Samsung doesn't give credit". Did someone say smart-ass?
peace

OMG not again... just install a custom rom and enjoy ICS. There are a few that are quite stable with S Memo working....

More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!

Yet another "fkn samsung where's my update" thread... can't you people just wait a month more ? It's just a software update, it's not like your phone is useless without ICS...

Samsung said you will get ICS and you will, Gorilla said the glass is scratch resistant and it is.
So...You are waiting for ICS and you have discovered scratch resistant is not the same as scratch proof.
You seriously need to lighten up.. its a phone dude, not life and death
Qvp said:
Hey friedje you're so smart... luck must have sent me here to be enlightened by your ingenious comments.
Let's just review your comments the same way you reviewed mine ok?
1.Never buy something for what it might become-wow! I am really thrilled and honored to see such an amazing sentence, too bad its meaningless. Never buy something for what it might become? *cough* BULL****. An update was supposed to be released by now, an update which is considered to be a cornerstone of android's development, or briefly speaking -a major change to the device.
2.95% of androids run gingerbread, perhaps you're right.. can't tell by the way you pull wisdom out your sleeves but.... galaxy note isn't just a normal android device. If I'm not wrong its Samsung's flagship phone, its pricey.. and promising.
3.That scratch doesn't really bother me... I'm honest. I just wanted to comment on the durability of the gorilla glass, or in fact about the allegedly scratch resistant screen that galaxy note has.
But other than that, nice to see that you blindly stick to your galaxy note, and how certain you are that it is flawless. If I had a company or a business I'd be looking for a worker\customer like you to blindly follow me too.
peace
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Maybe not flawless, but at least i'm happy with what i bought in december .
So maybe ICS will make it better or maybe not. Maybe tomorrow or
maybe June 30, no need to whine over a top class phone

p51d007 said:
What does ICS really bring to the table that most note users will really need?
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Support for Android 3.x and 4.x apps. DriveMount really cool thing. With DosBox Turbo you can play DOS games with USB or Bluetooth mouse at ICS. And many more 3.x and 4.x great apps...
New many awesome settings, like "Hovering pen icon". It's amazingly cool helping feature, I really like it! Of cause other functions like "Force GPU rendering" and other from Android 4 also very helpful. Windows and transition animation scale settings will make a pleasant view for menus and other animations...
Also ICS is incredibly smooth!
I hope someone will fix Tablet mode for samsung stock ICS roms. AOSP good, but it kills many Note features, like stock camera, hovering pen icon, s planner, s memo and other samsung good things...

you know what? I take it back. both the hostile replies against friedje and the whining about not having ICS.
I was just in a mood to express my opinion after logging in every few weeks to check for an update.
all the best everyone!

yiannisthegreek said:
More *****ing and pissing and moaning I see hey? There are LOTS of these threads already so please stop flooding the board with this OVER AND OVER again!!!
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.

hey, chill...
dont you see the OP man'd up and apologised?.. he deserves props for that, not an ongoing diatribe.
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Yes, what a bunch of cry babies. Nothing except google branded phones get updates for crap. This should be common knowledge for anyone on XDA.
OTOH, CM9 is running FLAWLESSLY for me. I don't care about FM radio and w/e the other missing things is, whoopdeedoo.
And screen protectors must cost as much as a phone the way people don't wish to protect a 600 dollar device. Where is the sanity? Not in this solar system.
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Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.

JulyDerek said:
Does the wakeup lag get fixed with ICS, that's all I'm bothered to know.
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It's still there, but it's nowhere near as bad.

I feel like the biggest reason we haven't seen the update is simply incorporating the driver's for the S-Pen and it's related things. Also the Galaxy Note runs at a unique resolution compared to everything else so that will cause some differences. If you've used any of the leaks they're pretty close, but they're still far from what I would consider something that should be released for everyone. I went back to CheckRom for my Note and for GB it runs really good. I was using CM9 which ran great, but I missed having the SPen and related apps as that was part of the reason I got the note. I would love ICS to be released right now, but even with GB the Note is still by far the best phone I've used. I love using my Note with Gingebread and Touchwiz more than using my Galaxy Nexus with 4.0.4