I left my tablet out in the sun for a considerably long time, battery turning as hot as 130°F. Would that explain loss of battery life? And if so, is there a place where I can buy a battery replacement?
Messinator said:
I left my tablet out in the sun for a considerably long time, battery turning as hot as 130°F. Would that explain loss of battery life? And if so, is there a place where I can buy a battery replacement?
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Yeah, electronics and excessive heat are never a good combination. Depending on how long it was left in the heat, it may have an effect. This article does a good job explaining the effects temperature and humidity have on a battery:
EDIT: so I can't post links, but you can find the article i'm referring to at BatteryEducation.com, I just did a Google search for "heat effect batteries" and it was the first search result. Check it out.
As far as where a replacement battery can be obtained, a quick Google search would probably solve that (sorry if that sounds sarcastic, its not intended too). Some times iFixit has replacement parts, so that would be a good place to start looking.
Hope this helps.
yeah that heat from teh sun definitely kill battery. you're lucky it didn't explode.
I called Google support and they told me to return the device. I was unsure on whether I should, so she emailed me a link so I can request an RMA once I click it.
But I can't find any battery parts. I don't want to send in the entire thing but at the same time I see nothing, even on iFixit.
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Anyone get this yet? I am curious to how it will look on my phone.
Here is link to item -
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY20HTFE-BK
I have also attached a pic from their site.
Mine should arrive on Wednesday. If no one else gets it before that, I'll take pictures of it.
Goatmaster said:
Mine should arrive on Wednesday. If no one else gets it before that, I'll take pictures of it.
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Thanks man. I am very interested to see how it actually looks on the phone. Thanks again
I got my shipment notice for this today, if no one has unboxing photos up by the time it gets here i'll do the honors
I was thinking of buying this but I would miss the diamond back =)
Here are my pictures. It says to charge it for 8 hours for the first time. Also it says performance will increase after 5-6 full charges. The back has a rubber feel to it and is a visible different black the the rest of the ATT fuze.
it looks huge. maybe it is just the pictures and I can not see it in your hand.
thanks for the pics. I will be also interested to hear about how the battery actually works.
It's actually smaller then I thought it would be. The third picture is it vs the original battery and the 4th picture is it vs my 2400 HTC Advantage battery
this is the same battery/cover combo I have seen on ebay, cept most of those dont give details on its cpacity and ect/
Can it be used on Touch Pro?
Hmm, i'm kind of bummed that the back has a big honkin SEIDIO on the back, the product images don't show that and they don't say 'this image is a representative image not the real product etc.'
Da_G said:
Hmm, i'm kind of bummed that the back has a big honkin SEIDIO on the back, the product images don't show that and they don't say 'this image is a representative image not the real product etc.'
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Da_G you are correct and it is strange. If you look at the picture I posted in the first thread from their site it DOES NOT have the SEIDIO on it. wonder why they don't show it on the site.
I'll certainly be asking them about that the moment my product arrives
It feels like you could scratch their name off, but I am not going to try.
Corporate tattoo aside, is this battery upgrade worth it? It seems like if I'm away from my desk, and therefore away from my desktop, I use the heck out of my phone without a charger handy.
And, the other thing I was wondering... would the stock battery be usable in this case? Could a piece of foam keep things from rattling around? Or, is the stock battery only compatible with the stock case?
Got mine charging now, the box says to charge it outside the phone, but I guess they assume you have a way to do that...
One thing goatmaster didn't mention, but I can see in his photos that the left bottom side of the battery door doesnt cleanly mesh with the bottom of the phone housing. The right side doesn't have this problem and fits flush with the phone at the bottom, however there's also a small buldge on the top right side of the battery cover like it's got 1mm or so too much plastic.. all in all the battery cover doesn't impress me one bit.. there's even little bits of silver colored overspray around the SEIDIO where the template they held over it wasnt exactly flush.. I can provide HQ photos to illustrate.
Edit: Observation: TBattery still shows FULL (mAh) as 1340, not sure where it pulls this info from but it may indicate that some kind of calibration may be required for the device to recognize full capacity (on iPAQ hx4705 there was an issue with early drivers, if you used an extended battery calibration would 'stick' with the stock battery, and it would show 0%.. then you could reboot the phone and it would jump back up to 60% or whatever was really left) - again I don't know if this is an issue at all yet (still charging the first charge) but that's what TBattery reports.
that is pretty disappointing to hear overall.
The only thing I don't see that Da_G mentioned is the silver issue. I don't have an external charger so I just charged it in the phone overnight with the phone off.
Here are my results so far: 30 something hours without charging and I am at 72%. I've made about 20 minutes worth of calls and have push email on. I am using Lantis OS with whatever the stock fuze radio is.
Goatmaster said:
The only thing I don't see that Da_G mentioned is the silver issue. I don't have an external charger so I just charged it in the phone overnight with the phone off.
Here are my results so far: 30 something hours without charging and I am at 72%. I've made about 20 minutes worth of calls and have push email on. I am using Lantis OS with whatever the stock fuze radio is.
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you barely use the phone with only 20 minutes of calls. I would like to hear from someone like me who uses the phone all day, gets hundreds of emails and sends about as many, countless texts, and is off and on the internet all day for work and social purposes. I would like to see how this extended battery helps that level of user and last longer (hopefully)
Tbattery supports logging every n interval, we can use a program to stress the device in a consistant manner, log the battery level decay over time and get a clear picture. (% batt at time index n, time to complete exhaustion, etc) i plan to do this as soon as i run the battery through a few cycles (documentation says 4-5 cycles before max capacity is reached)
edit: attached is a pic of tbattery after first charge, 4 hours 55 minutes connected to hspa.. pretty heavy intarwebs and gps usage. light calling (10 min or so)
if anyone else is interested in doing a test on the standard battery under the same controlled circumstances, that would cut the time it takes in half..
First some backgound.
In preparation for a big event where I will be using my phone for web surfing a lot, I pick up the huge brick2600mah battery. It works well and last all day. I forgot my charger and had to charge the phone over USB and that only seems to charge the battery to 75%. But that is a different issue.
So when I get home, I put back in the stock battery so the phone will no longer be a brick in my picket any more. (The 2600mah battery will be used for events where I need the power)
But the stock battery is not lasting very long at all any more. The capacity seems to be down 50%. I left it in my truck once and came back to find it almost dead. It went from fully charged with the car charger to dead in 2 hours.
A week or so later, in the same spot, I knew I was going to be out of ear shot, so I left my fully charged phone, in airplane mode to save the battery. 4 hours later and it's dead like a door nail.
I have since done the same and the battery is low after 6 hours, but not dead. Something strange is going on. I have ran the phone till dead 3 times and fully charged it and that seemed to help, but it's still not happy. It also takes 8+ hours to charge.
A few hours ago, I managed to hard lock the phone, so I pop out the battery. The battery swollen. Not Sony like, but like something inside is really pressing hard against the case and wants to get out. Note I am talking about the stock HTC battery, not the brick.
My stock battery problems may be unrelated to the use of the 2600 brick battery, but I figure it's worth bringing up.
Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
If the stock as really swollen, you'd better contact Tmo and get a replacement. I think it might got over heated when you left it in the truck. Did you put it on the dashboard? Was that a hot sunny day? Any temperature above 60 degrees Celsius can cause permanent damage to lithium-ion batteries. Crystals growing on one of the electrodes (can't remember which) can penetrate the insulation and touch the other side, causing a internal short. This will heat the liquids inside the battery and when the pressure rise beyond control...
You need a new battery, batteries can swell like that either from heat or too high current drained. Might be a defect in the battery from the start as well tho (short-circuit waiting to happen or something, who knows?)
PorchG1 said:
Anyone else seen this? Can I bug T-Mobile about getting a new battery?
Any suggestions next to bury it in a hole before it explodes and kills us all?
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Any lithium battery that experiences swelling should immediately be viewed as a potential hazard. At this point you cannot drop it off in a battery recycling drop-off point (and perish the thought of just tossing it in the trash). I recommend you take it to a T-Mo store and demand an exchange for a new battery. You'll also be relieved of the responsibility to deal with disposing of it properly.
Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
PorchG1 said:
Nice game of connecting the dots. I normally put my phone in the shade when left in my truck for several hours. But I miscalculated the position of the sun and when I checked back in a few hours, it was not in direct sunlight and hot. Not too hot to handle, but toasty. Only happened once, but I guess that sure could be the cause.
The battery is not hot now or bursting out of it's case, and I have been using it for 2 months so I don't think it will be an issue recycling it. Is a T-Mobile store just going to hand over a new battery to me?
Bonus, I now know why the battery in my GPS only lasted 2 months.
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As said 100% correctly by jashsu, your battery is basically hazardous. Keep it away from anything you want to stay alive (you, your property, your G1...) until you can get it to T-Mobile.
XDA does not condone this, but your best bet to get a new battery is to lie. If you tell them you left it in the sun, they're most likely not going to replace it. Play dumb and tell them nothing odd happened and you have no idea why it did it.
If you bought it from em and are still in contract with them, I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't replace it on the spot (even if you don't have warranty). Until then, do NOT use the battery, and be thankful that it didn't destroy your G1.
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Even if it's not in direct sunlight, the temp inside of a car on a sunny day can easily go over 200 degrees F... in many cases going up to 300 degrees.
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water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
Freedomcaller said:
water boils at 200 degrees, there is no way a car goes to 300 degrees, it would explode....
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lmao, i agree
http://www.mydogiscool.com/x_car_study.php
lol
Guess I got my numbers mixed up... according to a few websites, they can get up near 200 degrees.
http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.safety.all.html
I have been still using the phone. Bloated battery and on. It has not tried to kill me as of yet.
Today I went down to the t-mobile store and told the guy at the counter that my phone was only holding a charge for 5 hours at most. He suggested a battery swap and if that does not fix it, a phone swap. I handed him my puffed out battery, and he handed me a new, slimmer one. He never asked for my phone, my number, or nothing else. Once again I am reminded why I go with the only carrier that does not offer 3G service in my area. T-Mobile service rocks.
I am replacing the screen of a nexus 4. Taking out the battery posed a significant difficult and now I'm worried I've damaged the battery. Just how flexible is the battery and should I be worried? I'm thinking about simply replacing it with a new one but I want to make sure.
Also should I need to dispose of the battery where do I go (I'm in the UK).
I've uploaded some pictures of the battery showing how bent it is. Although it was a little worse during its removal.
Techno_Deva said:
I am replacing the screen of a nexus 4. Taking out the battery posed a significant difficult and now I'm worried I've damaged the battery. Just how flexible is the battery and should I be worried? I'm thinking about simply replacing it with a new one but I want to make sure.
Also should I need to dispose of the battery where do I go (I'm in the UK).
I've uploaded some pictures of the battery showing how bent it is. Although it was a little worse during its removal.
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You should be ok with very minimal flexing.
Thanks
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You should be ok with very minimal flexing.
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Thanks, that's a load of my mind. I finish putting it together tomorrow and see how things fair.
Hey everyone,
I bought a nexus 6p last week refurbished. Pretty much I was expecting the famous battery failure and did get it on my nexus around 30% - 20%. So I bought a new battery yesterday it comes tomorrow and will give it in to a phone shop to get it done by a technician , I need a straight answer does it fix the problem permanently and will it boost battery life. I know there has been MANY MANY MANY topics about it but I just need a straight answer.
Thanks
Yes, I replaced mine myself. I went from 1 hour SOT, dying at 70%, to 6-7+ hours dying at 0%.
The issue wont be fixed permanently though, you're just mitigating the problem
I did the same on two Nexus 6Ps, totally worth the effort.
YES!
Alright! Thanks guys I got my battery today and im gonna hand it in to a phone shop and get it done! I'll keep you updated on it.
Well! That replacement was totally worth it! Before I had i replaced, I'd wake up at like 9am with 100% battery then around 12pm it would be on 67% and pretty much die at 30 or 20%.
Since i got it replaced I have noticed a overhaul of improvements with my battery especially with the Franco kernel my battery life has doubled by an insane amount. I can actually go out and come back with like 50% without rapid draining. I am genuinely happy with that replacement. It feels great.
Thanks who said it was worth changing the battery. If you're planning to swap it. Do it! It's worth your time.
What battery did you guys get?
lil_ith said:
What battery did you guys get?
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Hey lil_ith,
I got my battery from Ebay which provided me tools and the battery all for £12.95. I went to go check if the product is still in stock but it seems that the seller has removed the item off ebay I'll be more than happy to provide you to a genuine battery.
Not sure where about you live, but I live in the UK so I can only provide the UK products. Sorry about that.
Ebay Battery: Provides you with tools to change the battery and provides battery.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Genu...458139&hash=item3d56669afc:g:kJAAAOSwLjxaX0o3
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Hey lil_ith,
I got my battery from Ebay which provided me tools and the battery all for £12.95. I went to go check if the product is still in stock but it seems that the seller has removed the item off ebay I'll be more than happy to provide you to a genuine battery.
Not sure where about you live, but I live in the UK so I can only provide the UK products. Sorry about that.
Ebay Battery: Provides you with tools to change the battery and provides battery.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Genu...458139&hash=item3d56669afc:g:kJAAAOSwLjxaX0o3
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Hey thanks for the reply!! All good and looks good I believe. Only issue with those batteries is there's no Temp sensor I believe. Can you confirm?
Yes , i replaced my battery last month , and it works . My SOT has increased from an hour to 6-7 hours.
lil_ith said:
Hey thanks for the reply!! All good and looks good I believe. Only issue with those batteries is there's no Temp sensor I believe. Can you confirm?
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Err I'm not too sure about the temperature sensor on this battery. This product that I linked is not the one I bought, the one I bought the seller has took down the item for some reason. What i can do for you I can contact the seller from the one I linked you if it has a temperature sensor on it. If not then I'll let you know! :good:
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Err I'm not too sure about the temperature sensor on this battery. This product that I linked is not the one I bought, the one I bought the seller has took down the item for some reason. What i can do for you I can contact the seller from the one I linked you if it has a temperature sensor on it. If not then I'll let you know! :good:
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Ah makes sense. But yeah if its thin it doesn't have it. But that would be cool. Thank you
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I personally have a mixed feeling. I replaced my battery a little while ago, and it was working great for months, but now the battery began draining like crazy. I read somewhere that there was a defect on the motherboard itself and that battery replacement would only be a temporarily fix as the main defect would eventually bring the issue back. I'm thinking to move on at this point as I don't want to keep replacing battery.
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I personally have a mixed feeling. I replaced my battery a little while ago, and it was working great for months, but now the battery began draining like crazy. I read somewhere that there was a defect on the motherboard itself and that battery replacement would only be a temporarily fix as the main defect would eventually bring the issue back. I'm thinking to move on at this point as I don't want to keep replacing battery.
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What's the defect? To me that just sounds like a low quality battery
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What's the defect? To me that just sounds like a low quality battery
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Read up on threads about batteries in this forum. That's how I found it. You'll also see that many people reporting back with the same issue no matter what battery tried. Some of us have been at this for a long time.
goldentequila said:
Read up on threads about batteries in this forum. That's how I found it. You'll also see that many people reporting back with the same issue no matter what battery tried. Some of us have been at this for a long time.
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I have been. I've been researching the hell out of it tbh and most of the time that's mentioned it's because it's a low quality battery. Since it lasts a couple of weeks - 2 months and then back to square one. That's due to bad batteries.
Had the battery swapped a few days ago and its worth it. Before the swap i would get like 1 hour SoT at best and my phone would sit at around 30% when i got home from work with the phone completely drained at around 7-8 pm. Now i get more then double the SoT even with heavy use and has enough charge left when i got to bed ( around 30% ).
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I have been. I've been researching the hell out of it tbh and most of the time that's mentioned it's because it's a low quality battery. Since it lasts a couple of weeks - 2 months and then back to square one. That's due to bad batteries.
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Obviously, you haven't enough or you would have found the posts I'm talking about. I'm not going to find that post for you, and if you simply choose to not believe me, there is nothing I can do. I offered info. If you choose to deny it, then that's where our conversation ends. Take care.
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Obviously, you haven't enough or you would have found the posts I'm talking about. I'm not going to find that post for you, and if you simply choose to not believe me, there is nothing I can do. I offered info. If you choose to deny it, then that's where our conversation ends. Take care.
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I visited a local shop near were I used to live for my gfs nexus and it's going 6months with no issues or degration, shut down or otherwise. I no longer live there or I would go back to repair my phone at the same location. Hopefully in a couple of months I can. I will report to you guys, I have not been able to find a legitimate battery to do it myself or a local shop at my current location. I know BLOD is an issue but that is not related to battery. I guess people could have faulty motherboards but not all of us do. But I'm not denying or agreeing with you because there's lots of people who bought batteries of poor quality and lasted about a month before going back to what they delt with before. I'm not to sure of this conversation is going but I hope you can fix your battery soon. Nexus besides its issues is still an amazing device and I hope I can keep it running for a couple more years.
Replaced battery a month ago, been working like a champ since lasting me most of the day with heavy use. Then for some reason yesterday, it decided to start running hot all the time and killing the battery faster than before I replaced it. Neither the system battery stats nor Accubattery are showing me anything helpful.
Hi there. This happened to me last night, now I have an orange-reddish light on constantly, the light is to the left of the camera eye in the front. I am now assuming the battery died. Can you please direct me to where I can buy a replacement battery and possibly a link on how to open the phone. Grateful for any help.
Dgrn1960 said:
Can you please direct me to where I can buy a replacement battery and possibly a link on how to open the phone.
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For the phone disassembly, watch this: Essential Phone Teardown (fixez.com). DO NOT use the teardown video from ifixit.com, unless you want to completely destroy your phone. I would suggest using a plastic spudger instead of a playing card, and you can use a suction cup to assist with lifting the screen. Also see my post about the screen replacement for some hints and details.
Where to get the battery would depend on your geography, I guess. If I needed it, I'd go with Amazon, for example here or here.
Good luck with your repair!