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[Q] Waterproof Epic!!

<---- Idiot jus dropped his epic in sum water & of course it's not working!! I dried it out w/ a towel & blow dryer after it happened. When I connect the battery the keyboard keys still lights up, but when I press the power button all I hear is a ringing type noise (sounds like a fan spinning) and no bootup. I cannot boot into CWM or Download mode either. Has anyone experienced this or found a solution w/o having to replace the whole phone.
** Also, my battery has the red marking on the top of it stating it's been wet.
EDIT: If I plug in my usb the LED light comes on, but it's blue & my phone was @ 80% when I dropped it.
Thanks in advance!!
UPDATE: [ I couldn't wait the 48 hours!! (36 Hours) -- LoL ] I just removed my phone/battery from the rice bags & everything is working!! Yes, even the battery is good @ 72%!! I can't believe it worked!! Thanks Matrix!! And thanks to everyone for your great suggestions!! This phone is truely EPIC!!

Turn it off and remove the battery now!!! Do not put the battery back in.
You're going to mess it up by turning it on when things are shorting out!
Take the battery and the phone. Put them (separately) in a zip lock bag full of rice. Wait a day or two. Then try it out.
PS: Everyone should ingrain themselves in this reflex: If your phone hits water, remove the battery NOW. Do the rice trick, and try it later. Resist the urge to see if it still works.

Thanks for your quick replay & suggestion matrix!!
I am currently trying your method, but I'm hoping I didn't further short anything on the circuit board by trying to get it to work earlier.. It sounds like a good plan because the rice will absorb the water and probably be ready for consumption in a day or two!! LoL

Forget the bag of rice, you need to take the phone apart immediately, to the last screw and board and wipe down everything with alcohol and blow it out and dry it with a hair dryer. Otherwise even if you get it to work in a couple of days, corrosion will start to build up on the contacts of various things inside and you'll end up having to get another phone.

And this is why that extra $7.00 a month is worth it.

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Otherwise even if you get it to work in a couple of days, corrosion will start to build up on the contacts of various things inside and you'll end up having to get another phone.
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Forget about taking it apart... you're garonteed t miss somthing and the corrosion will kill it anyways. I know for a fact
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hdnet1 said:
Forget the bag of rice, you need to take the phone apart immediately, to the last screw and board and wipe down everything with alcohol and blow it out and dry it with a hair dryer. Otherwise even if you get it to work in a couple of days, corrosion will start to build up on the contacts of various things inside and you'll end up having to get another phone.
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Soo .. which 1 should I do?? They both sound right to me!! I checked on YouTube & I seen a vid about using the rice technique, but no vid about completely taking it apart to dry off the components??
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And this is why that extra $7.00 a month is worth it.
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I do have the warranty -- Doesn't water damage void it?? They can tell by the red marking on the battery.

No, just means you gotta pay them whatever the current fee is for water damaged phones. Used to be 50 bucks, but I think the crooks doubled it. As for taking it apart, forget about that nonsense. Bag of rice for a couple days, take it out, if it boots up you are fine.

muyoso said:
No, just means you gotta pay them whatever the current fee is for water damaged phones. Used to be 50 bucks, but I think the crooks doubled it. As for taking it apart, forget about that nonsense. Bag of rice for a couple days, take it out, if it boots up you are fine.
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Cool .. I really didn't wanna take it apart. I would have prob did more damage to it!! LoL I will wait out the 2 days & post back w/ an update then.
Thank you all for your help!!

CRC Mass Air Sensor Cleaner
You can find it at auto parts stores, its an electrical component cleaner that displaces water, removes grime, grease, corrosion and dries with no residue.
You have to take it apart to use it and don't get it on plastic stuff. CRC makes several different electrical component cleaners and some of them will eat plastic so be careful with it.
Saved my Sprint Hero with this stuff after it landed in a puddle and spent about two minutes fully submerged in the water before I found where it landed. Luckily I was home, ran inside, took it apart and grabbed a can of CRC I had in the garage on a whim.
Granted, I never tried turning it back on while it was still wet, that is often the killer for wet electronics.
Just figure that its dead, whatever you do to it at this point isn't going to hurt it anymore but I would HIGHLY recommend taking it apart to make sure you get all the moisture out of it. I don't put much faith in the rice trick

D`Nyed said:
CRC Mass Air Sensor Cleaner
You can find it at auto parts stores, its an electrical component cleaner that displaces water, removes grime, grease, corrosion and dries with no residue.
You have to take it apart to use it and don't get it on plastic stuff. CRC makes several different electrical component cleaners and some of them will eat plastic so be careful with it.
Saved my Sprint Hero with this stuff after it landed in a puddle and spent about two minutes fully submerged in the water before I found where it landed. Luckily I was home, ran inside, took it apart and grabbed a can of CRC I had in the garage on a whim.
Granted, I never tried turning it back on while it was still wet, that is often the killer for wet electronics.
Just figure that its dead, whatever you do to it at this point isn't going to hurt it anymore but I would HIGHLY recommend taking it apart to make sure you get all the moisture out of it. I don't put much faith in the rice trick
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True, it prob is near dead at this point. I will try this solution if the rice trick doesn't work tomorrow. Hopefully, one of these solutions work out!! Thanks for your input!!

It's def dead if u already tried to turn it on.
Just tell them you dropped it off the side of a boat.......then you wont have to show it to them

My buddy dropped his epic4g in the toilet bowl, he was paying insurance ($7.99 a month.) He did the samethings you did and did the rice trick and nope didn't work. Ended up calling sprint and spending 150 I think for a replacement phone.
- Its just going to be Epic!

Silica Gel packs are better than rice if you have any of those.

BUMP!! Please read my update to my OP!! Rice is the not only good for eating!! LoL

Swam with my phone for 20 min

On my last day on holiday I forgot to take my phone out of my pocket before going to the swimming pool. Now it's soaked and looks bricked. Does anyone knows if there it's a chance of it working after it's dried up.

If the phone was off and the battery was removed as soon as possible. Another major factor is how pure the water is - sea water will kill your phone unless you wash it out with water with no (or as almost none) salts in it.
The phone was to be allowed suffient time to dry out. Placing it under a gentle heat (ie near a lamp) and with those silicon bags that it equipment comes with or with rice. You are normally talking about a week for drying out time.

I've heard of dripping wet phones drying out and being okay, so it's a possibility.
There's all the usual airing cupboard/bowl of rice/little crystal packs you get in your trainers/bag of salt suggestions, but I think the most prominent one is to be 100% sure that ALL moisture has gone before you try turning it on again.
Have a search through the forums, and not just this phone as this is obviously not a phone specific problem. There's plenty of advice out there.
Good luck mate - I hope you get it working again.

TA123 said:
On my last day on holiday I forgot to take my phone out of my pocket before going to the swimming pool. Now it's soaked and looks bricked. Does anyone knows if there it's a chance of it working after it's dried up.
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open the back panel take evry thing out
dray it
dray the phone from back with an hair dryer with medium heat
for one hour
put it outside in the open for 4 hours
again one hour with hair dryer
and pray a lot
this is what save my nokia n95 ....so be optimistic
In my case I was saving a child from drowning ...so maybe it was an angel that thought it is not a good day to kill my phone
(try doing a good thing before the process)
good LUCK

20min is a long time for the phone to be in the water
It will also depend on if the phone was on or off when it went for a dip.
if it was off, there is a small chance it could be ok, leave it for a week to air and then cross your fingers.
if it was on, id take a guess that your goose is cooked.
sorry to hear bud.

Thanks a lot for all support! Well the phone was on :-( but the water was fresh. Anyway we have already checked out so no access to a hair dryer. Rice is not available until we're back to England this evening. Will report back if the phone survives.

Dissamble your phone completly (tutorial on youtube), place the mobo in a oven @ 100 degrees C for 5 a 10 min
Try first to dry your board with a hairdryer

I once fixed a friends (cough) iphone that was full of dirty water. Stripped it down, put the main components in clean water to wash it out, then put in a 50 degree oven for an hour. Left if over night then reassembled. Worked a treat afterwards, so there is hope. The secret is to give it plenty of time to dry out.

Use distilled water to rinse. Or even better, isopropanol; no baking needed.
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it looks it's fried :-( I disassembled it and dried up but it does not show any signs of life. Will try to call my travel insurance company tomorrow to see if it's covered.

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah
LMAO!
TRULY SORRY for loss, but your story cracks me up.

ops.. use rice for save it.

emeky said:
ops.. use rice for save it.
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It was covered with rice for the whole night without any results

U need to cover it with rice and put it in an box u can close so no air would come in
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just_nos said:
U need to cover it with rice and put it in an box u can close so no air would come in
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it should be perfectly dry after everything that has been done to it.

I would be tempted to take it apart and leave it for a week it 2 to dry out. There's a good chance it will work again as long as you don't turn it on while its still wet. If it was salt water or water with chlorine wash the phone with clean water well while in pieces. It shouldn't cause any damage doing this. Its best to remove all salt & chlorine as to prevent long term damage.

Sorry to be the dictionary police but its kinda a habit of mine, swimmed with makes no sense, I think you were aiming for swam.
Sorry about your phone dude, I know its a pain when it happens. Good luck with it all.

yusuo said:
Sorry to be the dictionary police but its kinda a habit of mine, swimmed with makes no sense, I think you were aiming for swam.
Sorry about your phone dude, I know its a pain when it happens. Good luck with it all.
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Oh, I was so heart-broken to watch my grammar

TA123 said:
it should be perfectly dry after everything that has been done to it.
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It takes a Minimum of 2 weeks to cure a water damaged phone. If it has salt in it, it wont work at all. IN such a case you should have rewashed it with clean water. You also need to keep it air tight with DRY rice inside a airtight box for 1 to 2 weeks. This will make sure all the fluids are extracted from the machine.
It can feel dry, but it does not mean it actually is. Also, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT charge the phone with the battery in it after a water accident for the first time again.

Well, both of my insurance policies explicitly exclude mobile phones .
So it is now like either the phone will survive or I will have to use my old Hero for the next 12 months.
So I washed it again to make sure no chlorine left and put it in a tightly closed box with a lot of yummy rice
Anyway, I do not hold my breath. I think I fried it when I thought it is dry and was trying to switch it on.

Water Damage

So I dropped my N1 in water. Took out the battery as soon as possible then I dried what I could with a towel.
After this I tried hours of the rice method (putting my N1 in a bag of dry rice to dry it out). And I was able to successfully boot up my phone again, almost everything works fine but the digitizer/touch screen has some issues.
The rightest side of the screen, about an inch worth is completely unresponsive, so if I load up my app drawer and try to click anything on the right it won't work at all just so you know what I mean.
What can I do about this? Is this a simple fix? Do I just need a new digitizer? Or is it something else?

Water damage can affect anything. Luckily the digitizer is only $25 and there are tons of videos on how to disassemble the phone.

Sounds to me like you've still got a short somewhere inside your N1. Here are some suggestions.
1. Rice is a desiccant, it takes a LONG TIME to actually dry-out something like the internals of a phone. If you can part with the phone for that long, I'd suggest leaving it in the rice for more like 72hours!!
2. If you can't give it that much time, and you've got some tools, skills and a willingness to take apart your N1? Then search youtube for "nexus one disassembly" and take it apart, being extra sure to manually dab dry all areas possible (especially in the digitizer area as you've stated issues around there).
3. Finally, if those steps don't work, you're looking at a digitizer replacement. Which, if you've already taken apart your N1 from step #2, will be an easier swap out for you to handle.
My N1 too went for an unwanted splash as well. Total submersion for a good few seconds as I had to fish it out. Water had gotten into the screen, EVERYTHING was wet.
I had the tools and the mindset that my N1 was likely dead anyway so taking it apart couldn't hurt any further. So I took it completely apart, used a paper towel to dab dry everything possible that I could. Then I left everything out on the table overnight to dry.
Next morning I put it all back together and to my delighted surprise everything worked!
Our N1s are troopers! I'm confident you can bring yours back to full life!
Good luck!

Thanks for the responses!
I will definitely try taking it apart and I'll post back soon on the outcome, if I get lazy though I'll just buy a new digitizer.

How is it possible that water doesn't hurt your N1? It's completely incredible. Few years ago i had a samsung player (my son in fact) that was in contact with water (no immersion!!) and after drying for a week (air then hair-drier!) it was impossible to get it on again.
Is N1 that strong!! So lucky you are!!

abccg said:
Thanks for the responses!
I will definitely try taking it apart and I'll post back soon on the outcome, if I get lazy though I'll just buy a new digitizer.
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Well if you buy a new digitizer you're gonna have to take it apart anyway haha.
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abccg said:
So I dropped my N1 in water. Took out the battery as soon as possible then I dried what I could with a towel.
After this I tried hours of the rice method (putting my N1 in a bag of dry rice to dry it out). And I was able to successfully boot up my phone again, almost everything works fine but the digitizer/touch screen has some issues.
The rightest side of the screen, about an inch worth is completely unresponsive, so if I load up my app drawer and try to click anything on the right it won't work at all just so you know what I mean.
What can I do about this? Is this a simple fix? Do I just need a new digitizer? Or is it something else?
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Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
Seems like there is still a short in your cellphone and i would recommend you call your manufacturer for this. Anyway, it's risky to repair a cellphone by yourself.

A little over a year ago I washed my Nexus One in the washing machine. Extra bleach, long cycle with an extra rinse cycle since it was a bunch of dirty clothing.
I remembered it was in my pocked when I went to remove my clothing, I was sure it was dead.
I pulled the battery and put the phone on the dry air vent of my dehumidifier for two days. The vent blew warm, completely dry air directly into the open back of my phone.
I popped the battery back in and it's been working like new ever since. The camera colors are ever so slightly off, however.
Let the phone dry out before you try to turn it back on.

Recently had the same issue. In my case was a bit easier.
What I did - removed back cover, battery, SIM, sd-card..
Switched my laptop and loaded it with compiling linux kernel. Then decoding HD video with handbrake. The aim was to get a constant flow of warm air (abt 70 degrees Celcius). And I put my phone close to vent fan out of my laptop. It is not overheating too much (like you can with air dryer).

I had a water damage as well, sliped with phone into the while geocaching. The salt walter wasn't good for my phone... :-(

CCpotter said:
Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
Seems like there is still a short in your cellphone and i would recommend you call your manufacturer for this. Anyway, it's risky to repair a cellphone by yourself.
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.

CCpotter said:
Use rice is a real bad idea, hairdryer is the best and i'm pretty sure you can find one in your house or borrow one from your neighbour
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.
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Rice is actually a very good thing to use just like cyberstoic says. It sucks the water into the rice and gets it out of the device.
The reason he listed for the hair dryer is valid, but it isn't the main reason. The main reason is that the hair dryer will just cause the water to evaporate, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the super humid air will leave the device, so as soon as it cools back down, you will still have that moisture in there.\
This is why rice or other desiccants (like all those silica gel packets that come with a lot of packaging) are used. They actually pull the moisture out of the device.

Rice worked for me when my N1 spent a night soaking in seltzer. (not completely submerged, but enough to get a big batch under the screen) But first I used a vacuum to suck out as much of the seltzer as I could. Then I put it in rice for about 30 hours.
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I always thought rice, particularly instant rice because it is so absorbent, or any dessicant was a good strategy.
On the other hand, hair dryers seem a very bad idea. Heat from the dryer can be damaging, but the real damage from a hair dryer is that is sends the air at a strong velocity and it blows the water further in the device.
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What about the dirt in the rice? If you use rice to dry those water inside, the dirt with rice will melt with the water inside and make damage to your elements.
If you use hair dryer in a proper way, it can dry your water inside without causing any damage. Have seen after-sale repair workers do this many times.

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If you use hair dryer in a proper way, it can dry your water inside without causing any damage. Have seen after-sale repair workers do this many times.
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Did you read my response at all? While it is possible for the hair dryer to fix the problem, it can also cause the problem to remanifest itself if that humid air doesn't actually leave the casing. That is the point of the rice. Dirt in the rice is irrelevant. We aren't talking about that much water, and the phone is still in its casing. The rice is just removing the moisture from the air.

Phone fell in water

Still works but the screen is foggy and flickers alot.
A friend of mine was telling me that something in the batter triggers and sprint can tell if it had water damage or not. How can i tell and look for that?
I also want to take it in but dont want sprint finding out about the water damage. Is there a loophole?
Shifted from my EVO

Well first things first. Turn it off, pull the battery. Do not try to restart it. You have several choices to dry it out. One really and proven one is rice. Fill a container half way with rice. Then stick your phone in the rice with the battery out, and the cover off. Push it down into the rice, and let it stay there for at least two days in a warm dry place. The other was actually used by a member here on XDA. He used is a Dehydrator. Not sure of the details, but it definately worked. I'd say set it on low and leave it there for at least 24hrs. Sprint can tell if the phone has been dropped in water by checking the water damage indicators. On the phone itself, and the battery. They're Red checkered squares. They turn bright Red when dropped in water. Although it has been proven they're not very reliable.

^^ is correct about the indicator on the battery. Its a little sticker and i always pull it off and take it to them. Once they asked me about the sticker and i just told them i have no idea what your talking about and that i didn't know about any sticker. Playing dumb helps

Take battery out....Stick it in oven on warm heat...take it out after 10 minutes to let it cool down.....repeat like 4 times.....
Sounds freaky but i fixed an iPod Touch and a Droid X with this method

Thanks for the replies guys. I ended up using a hair dryer on heat. It's not that bad of a condition. Everything seems to work properly (so far). This would happen when a ICS beta ROM comes to our phones... -_-

is there any other indications that sprint would be able to tell if it had water damage?

Enraged21 said:
is there any other indications that sprint would be able to tell if it had water damage?
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Nope, unless there is still water in it when you take it there, oh and don't use a hair dryer, all that does is "push" water in deeper through all the electrical wiring and circuits, plus it can melt parts of the device
Personal expierence lol

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Nope, unless there is still water in it when you take it there, oh and don't use a hair dryer, all that does is "push" water in deeper through all the electrical wiring and circuits, plus it can melt parts of the device
Personal expierence lol
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+1 to not using the hairdryer . It will not work as well as you think. There's a good chance that you still have moisture in the device.

See I wouldn't have known that lol. Thankss!

Why we're here.

Tip for new owners to prevent water issues

I had serious problems with my lg g5 because of water getting into the phone because of the seam at the back of the phone, on even a slightly damp surface, at first I put a small length of electrical tape over the seam, now I put very small rubber feet on the back the phone to raise it a few mm, works great, this isn't a problem if your careful obviously, but im very forgetful

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I had serious problems with my lg g5 because of water getting into the phone because of the seam at the back of the phone, on even a slightly damp surface, at first I put a small length of electrical tape over the seam, now I put very small rubber feet on the back the phone to raise it a few mm, works great, this isn't a problem if your careful obviously, but im very forgetful
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My phone took a full submerge in toilet few weeks ago. Immediately took out battery wiped it dry. Took out Sd, sim, battery, screen protector. Wrapped 8-10 thick socks with phone. Put it in with a load of clothes in dryer. Make sure clothes are dry.
I mention all this because I've saved 10+ people's phones with this process. Got it from youtube video and was surprised it worked. Doesn't work well with phones with no detachable batteries.
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My phone took a full submerge in toilet few weeks ago. Immediately took out battery wiped it dry. Took out Sd, sim, battery, screen protector. Wrapped 8-10 thick socks with phone. Put it in with a load of clothes in dryer. Make sure clothes are dry.
I mention all this because I've saved 10+ people's phones with this process. Got it from youtube video and was surprised it worked. Doesn't work well with phones with no detachable batteries.
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Yeah as long as you don't run the phone wet there's a chance of saving it

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Yeah as long as you don't run the phone wet there's a chance of saving it
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Yeah that's definitely true. I can't stress that enough to people….Take out battery immediately after getting wet! The rice trick never seem to work for me.
I forgot to mention in the dryer thing. Usually 30-45 mins on medium heat. Make sure the phone is pretty cushioned with socks. Phone might get warm/hot in dryer. Wait 20-40 mins before trying to put everything together and power on.
Also one more important thing I need to mention to everybody. When your phone gets pretty wet. The sticker on your battery will change colors. Aka Phone company won't fix future issues. Happened to my cousin. My girlfriend had same phone and same issue. So what I did is order battery on amazon and Switched out. When her phone had an issue later on, they fixed it.
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Wow those are some advices!
But is it really safe to put it into the dryer? isnt there anything else besides heat the flows into the inside of the dryer? and is it necessary to put a fabric sheet or not?

ExtraDan said:
Wow those are some advices!
But is it really safe to put it into the dryer? isnt there anything else besides heat the flows into the inside of the dryer? and is it necessary to put a fabric sheet or not?
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Yeah I never had issues. I figured at the time I had nothing to lose. Factory warranty won't cover water damage. It cost an arm and leg to have them fix it. So if you don't got anything to lose give it a shot peeps?
Heat and static pretty much. Now static I was a lil worried about. But it never gave me issues. Maybe because it's insides not really xposed and so many socks block it out idk? I never used fabric sheet with this fix, but I don't see it hurting anything.
Like I said before didn't have much luck with phones with no un-removable battery. But only tried that on two phones. Maybe future next phone you have luck?
Most the people I know who got it wet was with water. If you spill with any sticky stuff: Soda, beer, etc. This should still work. But maybe you would have to worry bout future repair hassle? Because that sticky stuff not going away. They would see that in phone probably and no fix from them.
Okay last one sorry just trying to help people lol. Some people said they used 99% isopropyl alchol submerged. Dried out for few days in rice submerged and dryer. They did all that because of sticky spills and what I mention above. The alcohol washes it away.
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ExtraDan said:
Wow those are some advices!
But is it really safe to put it into the dryer? isnt there anything else besides heat the flows into the inside of the dryer? and is it necessary to put a fabric sheet or not?
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Maybe avoid using nylon socks pure cotton only

rpsweb said:
Maybe avoid using nylon socks pure cotton only
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Personally I would use a hair dyer then leave it to air dry for a few days, don't have a tumble dryer

Nick216ohio said:
Yeah I never had issues. I figured at the time I had nothing to lose. Factory warranty won't cover water damage. It cost an arm and leg to have them fix it. So if you don't got anything to lose give it a shot peeps?
Heat and static pretty much. Now static I was a lil worried about. But it never gave me issues. Maybe because it's insides not really xposed and so many socks block it out idk? I never used fabric sheet with this fix, but I don't see it hurting anything.
Like I said before didn't have much luck with phones with no un-removable battery. But only tried that on two phones. Maybe future next phone you have luck?
Most the people I know who got it wet was with water. If you spill with any sticky stuff: Soda, beer, etc. This should still work. But maybe you would have to worry bout future repair hassle? Because that sticky stuff not going away. They would see that in phone probably and no fix from them.
Okay last one sorry just trying to help people lol. Some people said they used 99% isopropyl alchol submerged. Dried out for few days in rice submerged and dryer. They did all that because of sticky spills and what I mention above. The alcohol washes it away.
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dank!!