If so, does it cost extra or does it use your inclusive data?
I've spoken to someone from Vodafone briefly and he said it would use my inclusive data, but I remember when I had my iPhone 4 and tethered it cost me a lot for the few mins I was using it!
Thanks
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Dixi1801 said:
If so, does it cost extra or does it use your inclusive data?
I've spoken to someone from Vodafone briefly and he said it would use my inclusive data, but I remember when I had my iPhone 4 and tethered it cost me a lot for the few mins I was using it!
Thanks
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Don't know if this is much help but it really depends on your tariff - Nearly all the UK networks are not brilliant with the Tethering part of your plan (if indeed your talk plan has one) I am on Three UK One Plan and tethering is inclusive (they claim 1gb, but I have exceeded this on numerous occasions with no extra charge)
I am afraid I don't really know what Vodafone offer, I know T-Mobile have a plan similar to three's which includes tethering .
As Coda have explained to you, any tethering will come out of your inclusive allowance (most usually 500mb up to 1gb depending)
As far as I am aware Three UK is the only network which includes unlimited tethering altho I maybe wrong. Its the only reason I use Three to be honest.
I have tethering as a no cost option on my contract with t-mobile but the N7 can't even see the hotspot offered up by my HD2
Maybe it's time I moved on from the best phone I ever had ?
Dixi1801 said:
If so, does it cost extra or does it use your inclusive data?
I've spoken to someone from Vodafone briefly and he said it would use my inclusive data, but I remember when I had my iPhone 4 and tethered it cost me a lot for the few mins I was using it!
Thanks
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What you've been told is correct for non-apple devices. Apple devices are the only devices on Vodafone UK where you have to pay extra for tethering unless you pay for a priceplan that includes tethering. This is because of the APNs they use. Android handsets use the standard WAP APN for all data, whereas Apple have programmed their devices to use a special APN called access.internet for all tethering data. I believe Apple charge all networks for activating the access.internet APN, so tethering on Iphones are charged separately.
Thanks very much, all 3 of you!
Can't wait for my n7 to get here, its due today!
Too excited!
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Dixi1801 said:
If so, does it cost extra or does it use your inclusive data?
I've spoken to someone from Vodafone briefly and he said it would use my inclusive data, but I remember when I had my iPhone 4 and tethered it cost me a lot for the few mins I was using it!
Thanks
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depends on your contact. I get unlimited data and tethering
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I'm on three UK all you can eat for an extra 3 quid a month and I can tether using wifi hot spot despite 3 telling me it wasn't going to work unless I bought a tether plan they were wrong ^_^
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Tethering is not usually included in your standard data bundles on UK networks, however in practice they can't tell that your using it (so long as your data usage is not stupidly high) hotspotting to another android device will not throw up any strange IP calls either as you will only be using similar websites and apps than your phone could use too.
Dixi1801 said:
If so, does it cost extra or does it use your inclusive data?
I've spoken to someone from Vodafone briefly and he said it would use my inclusive data, but I remember when I had my iPhone 4 and tethered it cost me a lot for the few mins I was using it!
Thanks
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It depends entirely on your provider and your plan. Even if your iPhone 4 was with Vodafone when you tried tethering, maybe they didn't allow tethering then but do now? Vodafone certainly seem to charge extra when tethering.
Three don't allow tethering unless you're on a special plan or buy an add-on, but O2 do allow tethering as standard, including with the iPhone.
I'm moving to O2 as soon as I can as they seem least restrictive in allowing tethering as part of your existing mobile data allowance.
(Sorry, I'm new here so it won't let me post links direct to the Voda, Three and O2 pages on tethering. I'll try and put them up on my blog at www dot consumingexperience.com.)
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Thanks very much, all 3 of you!
Can't wait for my n7 to get here, its due today!
Too excited!
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I had exactly the same question and my N7 has arrived today a la Tesco, just waiting to finish work and get my grubby hands on it!
CozaMcCoza said:
I had exactly the same question and my N7 has arrived today a la Tesco, just waiting to finish work and get my grubby hands on it!
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soon as i got it, i knew it was a great device!
happy with yours ?
CozaMcCoza said:
I had exactly the same question and my N7 has arrived today a la Tesco, just waiting to finish work and get my grubby hands on it!
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Lucky, they've lost mine in transit to the local store
Interestingly though the lady I spoke to on the TD helpline advised a refund/wait for a while before purchasing one from them again as they'd had a few "issues" with the N7, so now I dunno whether to buy or wait????
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I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
s6a6n6d6m6a6n said:
I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
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The support person was telling the truth, the phone really requires the 30 bux to get data. There's always the cheaper data w/ 200MB if you want that(Will use really quickly!). There's no way to avoid this,even if you are grandfathered in.
Unfortunately they know which phone your using from the imei number, and therefore block it. If you another phone that showed it as unknown or any phone that came out during that promotion would have worked.
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no wonder t-mo cant make it... no one should expect any company to give 4g for $6, let along unlimited 4g.
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Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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T-zone will work with any phone that is not a Blackberry, Android, Windows, or Symbian. The Nokia Nuron and the Samsung Gravity T are the two most popular options for that data feature.
bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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I agree. If you can afford to buy two MT4Gs off contract you can afford the data plan.
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bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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navarde said:
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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AT&T phones will only get EDGE on T-mobile, and vice verse. Now if you get a Canadian HTC Glacier (myTouch 4G) or something it might be a different story...
I know how you feel. When I signed my wife up a year ago I had an iPhone and was using the T-Zones plan flawlessly. They saw that and were like, "t-zones doesn't even exist anymore" and made me upgrade my iPhone to a $20 plan. When I got the MT4G I had to upgrade to the $30 plan. It works well, but you're right, it's a lot of money...
fellow xda members
bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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TeeJay3800 said:
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
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My judgmental friends, i'm looking for technical advise... not financial or personal.
You don't know me, nor my situation so don't judge.
And yes, i do drive an expensive car and I wouldn't mind taking it to Walmart if they serviced it or there was a Walmart nearby.
Please pay attention to this :
1. I've had t-zones for ages and over this period it has worked flawlessly with most models of Blackberry i have owned.
2. I have HTC Touch Pro 2, which runs WM6.5 for last 2 years and i get super 3G speeds unlimited, not the razor era Bamm Bamm!
3. I tested my SIM out with a colleagues HTC myTouch 4G before i got my own - and it worked awesome a month or so ago.
So in essence it's not the protocol the phone is accessing TCP, it's something T-Mobile is blocking.
This move by t-mobile would be justified if i got the device from them for free and obviously being fair, they want to recover their cost.
And yes, getting a non-contract phone is cheaper than getting a contract one in this case... astonishingly i used my 3rd grade math to figure that out.
In closing, i personally do not believe in the notion that "it cannot be done..." someone is already figuring it out somewhere in the world while you were saying that!!!!
Peace!
Technically, theoretically, there is a way to keep your tzones with tmobile by changing one number. But I think its illegal to do, nor will I tell you. And I think you will still be 3g...
I have to say suck it up and pay the piper. Oh and the data is $20 for preffered customers.
Why do you deserve to pay only $6 when the rest of us are paying for it? I've been on tmo since voice stream....
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Aggreed you can get 20 android web as a long standing customer. To get t zones to work you'll need to spoof your imei. And FWIW the nexus1 works with t zones because it was never sold in stores or thru tmo.
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DUDDES!!! THE INTENT OF XDA IS FOR SUPPORT.
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Technical support, I agree with u. If you had purchased a different PDA on different provider it would not required to update your service. The network recognizes the imei of the phone and by the new pda policy you have to add a data.
It happens with every provider.
Good luck man.
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EDIT: Comment deleted. Ain't worth it.
Just to help the OP out, the reason why the mytouch 4g probably worked was because you inserted a new sim into the phone. That's why, alot of phones work the first couple days using a phone with tzones but after a couple days, you're sent to the upsell page. Tmobile has a listing of all the imei's that they sell.
The nexus one was not officially sold through tmobile - always sold through google.com. As such, tmobile doesn't "have" your imei to know, but they kinda do. if you called into 611 in the first few months of the nexus one release, it sent you to google for tech support vs. tmobiles helpline. however, tmobile just chose to never block the nexus one. however, if you bought a g2, mytouch 4g, nexus s, etc....your tzones normally works for about 24-48 hours and then boom...upsell page. I know this cause everytime there's a new phone release, i try to see if it works on tzones. I personally can understand not wanting to leave tzones. I have it from when it was 2.99 + i get a 18% student discount that has yet to stop too. it's hard for me to let go of unlimited internet for so cheap, but in all honesty, i make enough money where i probably should pay the $20 for the unlimited android plan so i don't have to be so picky and choosy with my phones. before the whole 3g craze, i would change phones every few months.....and now, i keep using my nexus one and buy other phones and won't relinquish the nexus one because it's incompatible with the cheap data plan. I think i just might let it go for the sensation 4g though, we'll see. i've had to say goodbye to a tmobile g2, nexus s, and g2x already.
hey u guys only pay 20 bucks for unlimited data on the mytouch 4g? they charge me 30 dollars and i have been with tmobile since 2009 lol
Need a promo plan to get promo data. Got 3 lines unlimited text, 3K mins, and unlimited data with the 5GB soft cap, not 2GB. Paying 175. Also my line routinely bumps 10GB plus without any balk from tmo. Maybe cuz my mom doesn't touch her data so they let me munch off her allotment.
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Update:
I got a coupon code to get the phone + 1 Month of service for $100. Comes with 30 day money back if you don't like it.
"There’s so much more we have to show you. So visit, look around. Oh, that $99 offer we told you about? To get it, use the code welcome19 to join before November 27, 2011 at 11:59 pm ET."
Found this over at fatwallet.com (http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1136530/)
Here is what is posted there:
The service will require a special Android-based phone. Calls and SMSs will be routed via VOIP when on wifi and via cell towers otherwise.
Read more at Techcrunch:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/31/republic-wireless-an-android-po...
Read more at Gigaom:
http://gigaom.com/2011/10/31/republic-wireless-to-launch-19-voic...
Company website:
http://republicwireless.com/preview/
Summery:
The phone will primary use wifi for voice and texting and if no wifi is within range it will jump over to the Sprint network for voice, texting, and 3g data (no data cap). I guess you will need a CDMA android phone. Not sure yet if you have to buy a special phone from them but I'm sure someone will come up with a rom to flash to a Sprint android phone.
If this is all true it would be great to have one phone number, text, and unlimited data for only $19 with VoIP! I'll sell my G2x and find a phone that will work on this in a heart beat.
Let me know your thoughts.
I think I'm going to get one. If the phone if just an LG Optimus maybe someone can help me dump the ROM and flash it to a normal Sprint Optimus so you don't have to buy there phone.
From what I've read, you need a phone with special hardware sold by Republic, and judging from the picture on the website, it's probably going to be the LG Optimus S/V.
If it pans out and works like they say it will, I'd considering switching from Virgin Mobile. I'm already using the Optimus V, so it wouldn't be that much of a change for me.
I wonder how much they are going to charge for the phone?
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It's a gambe. Watch it go under in weeks.
chrischoi said:
It's a gambe. Watch it go under in weeks.
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Bandwidth.com isn't a fly-by-night company...I'd wait to get the details before dismissing them outright...
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Bandwidth.com isn't a fly-by-night company...I'd wait to get the details before dismissing them outright...
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I'm switching over this week I have faith they will last and the optimus one is pretty similar to my virgin mobile V
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Bandwidth.com has been awhile for now. I'm sure they will keep it afloat for awhile before they shut it down.
BUT, I have a feeling it will be relatively well. But I want to see their off-Wifi plan in details more.
Anyone know exactly which model this is?
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Bandwidth.com has been awhile for now. I'm sure they will keep it afloat for awhile before they shut it down.
BUT, I have a feeling it will be relatively well. But I want to see their off-Wifi plan in details more.
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from there website:
How much cellular usage is too much?
It depends. Even assuming 0% wifi usage, for example, you could consume 550 minutes, send 150 texts, and download 300 megabytes of data without crossing the community’s fair use threshold. Everyone's usage patterns will be different, but we're confident you’ll be amazed at how little cellular you actually use when you have a phone that makes it easy to leverage the power of your Wi-Fi networks.
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Thats not bad AT ALL! of course i don't have the $200 for a new phone, but I do have a sprint branded lg optumus. I hope there is going to be a way to flash over our own phones.
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from there website:
Thats not bad AT ALL! of course i don't have the $200 for a new phone, but I do have a sprint branded lg optumus. I hope there is going to be a way to flash over our own phones.
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You pay a hundred if you emailed them before today! I did
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I'm thinking about getting this for a friend who's going to be more broke than a LMAFO record.
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Couldn't you do this same thing with GrooVeIP, and a cheap pay as you go Boost Mobile plan?
tekkguy said:
Couldn't you do this same thing with GrooVeIP, and a cheap pay as you go Boost Mobile plan?
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$19 vs $55 a month. Maybe by a pay per day plan and some minutes with a few megs of data.
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$19 vs $55 a month. Maybe by a pay per day plan and some minutes with a few megs of data.
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The pay as you go plan is 50 cents/day for unlimited web, only on the days you use it. It's 20 cents per minute for voice calls, but if you froze the dialer (or never used it) and didn't give out the Boost number, voice would never get used.
Since GrooVeIP will work over 3G or Wifi, your max cost per month (after phone and GrooVeIP) would be $15.50.
tekkguy said:
The pay as you go plan is 50 cents/day for unlimited web, only on the days you use it. It's 20 cents per minute for voice calls, but if you froze the dialer (or never used it) and didn't give out the Boost number, voice would never get used.
Since GrooVeIP will work over 3G or Wifi, your max cost per month (after phone and GrooVeIP) would be $15.50.
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Sounds like a pain in the ass compared to Republic Wireless's option just to save $3.50 a month. Why do people love there iphone so much? It's easy.
The current phone offering and Sprint network is a deal breaker for me, however.
schoeds said:
Sounds like a pain in the ass compared to Republic Wireless's option just to save $3.50 a month. Why do people love there iphone so much? It's easy.
The current phone offering and Sprint network is a deal breaker for me, however.
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The irony is that Boost uses Sprint too.
schoeds said:
Sounds like a pain in the ass compared to Republic Wireless's option just to save $3.50 a month. Why do people love there iphone so much? It's easy.
The current phone offering and Sprint network is a deal breaker for me, however.
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Yeah it's a pain ... I'm just saying the idea isn't new. Only the implementation is.
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Listening to tnt yesterday Tom said data is unlimited as long as you don't use more than 300MB per month.
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shadow65781 said:
Listening to tnt yesterday Tom said data is unlimited as long as you don't use more than 300MB per month.
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Limited unlimited?
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Limited unlimited?
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Yup and if you go over and don't get back to their allowed usage within a certain time frame, you get dropped.
In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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Having to work for tmobile is awesome . Having a dealer line and unlimited data access is amazing. I'm just happy
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I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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xsteven77x said:
You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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I tether fine with my 5gig data plan without getting any hotpost messages
On the 5GB and 10GB plans, you can get tethering for free. One of the things I love about Tmo.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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If he has unlimited data yes. If a customer has a 2gb hspa+ and unlimited edge after, who cares whether it's his phone or comp using the data? Charging for tethering is just charging for the service not the data. And considering a simple free app can do that service why should he pay extra?
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Data is data. Ones and zeros are ones and zeros. Im paying for ones and zeros. Not to mention i rarely use tethering at all, i just want it handy for that "every once in a while." $15 a month doesnt constitute that. Nor does it constitute using one of them "shared" bull **** that is $15 a month just to enable my phone to do it and use up the same data pool. Its a money grab and i refuse to pay for it.
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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This is right. You are already paying for your 2GBs, you should be able to use it as you want. Because at the end of the day, your going to get throttled once you hit your limit.
so even if your using just your phone, or a hotspot the data you use with the devices don't change.
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If I'm not browsing on my laptop then I'm just going to pick up my phone and do it that way. How does that allow me to use an unfair amount? Data limits are still in place on my "unlimited" line.
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In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
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T-Mobile didn't "figure you out" - most tethering is easily detectable. It's a matter of "does T-Mobile care enough to do anything about it?" ... Until recently, that answer was no.
The information to get around T-Mobile's tethering detection is available in this forum (read: search for it). I'll give you a hint: the user agent gives you away.
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I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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I used to get the nasty emails from Ma Bell until I started using USB exclusively and Opera browser (uses a proxy). Ever since then, I've never gotten another one.
Seriously just pay for it with tmo.. Its like the people that pirate apk's... its a couple bucks for those and its like, why waste the time?
You "righteous" dudes are missing the point. I totally understand what the OP is saying. If I'm already paying for a certain amount of data, who gives a damn HOW it is used. In the end I'm STILL using the amount of data I paid for. Nothing more, nothing less. Charging for that is just like double billing in my opinion. These providers will do ANYTHING to milk more money out of the consumer.
Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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I do not believe issues such as this to be an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I have been an "unlimited" data user at At&T since 2005 - back when tethering was included in data. It was so little an issue back then I once called AT&T to ask for help setting up my Blackberry 7100.
For me to continue using my phone to tether win I switched to an iPhone, they tried to upsell me to a tethering plan, and the same when I briefly used a focus. I told them then, and I will tell them now, that as long as the plan that we BOTH agreed to regarding my ToS say that tethering is indeed included in my data plan - its not an entitlement, it is a right protected by the contract I had to sign while buying my beloved 8125.
The OP's individual situation may be different than this - but in all reality, if there is no abuse of the data caps on the users end - charging extra for tethering is in really bad taste from any of the carriers. It is NOT a service that they provide - it's a well established feature withing operating systems of the phones they sell. If that is unacceptable to them, then stop selling smartphones and go back to series Nokia 6125's. Then offer the 3g/4g hotspots as their own service so there is no longer a redundancy between smartphones and hotspots. Charging for both is just plain stupid.
Especially if the data plan I pay for has more than covered the data I use. I tether my laptop and tablet once or twice a week, and have not come close to the 5GB "softcap". If I'm not going over my limit, Who the heck are you to tell me I'm abusing the network? Leave me alone and go bother the jerk who's torrenting 720p movies on Friday night.
My 3 contact is about to expire and I'm seriously considering using giffgaff. £12/month gets you 250 mins, unlimited Web and texts. 3 is good and very fast but the cover is non existent in a few places. Just asking for people's opinion on gifgaff and if it's worth a look.
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Me personally would go with giffgaff great value plus chance to earn credit
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I did this swap 3 months ago and it has been great to be able to get signal everywhere again I would definitely recommend switching to giffgaff.
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Thanks guys, do you mainly get a 3G signal? How is coverage compared to three? Is 2G usable?
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I'm on giffgaff, and yeah, the prices are phenomenal. But if your not happy with 3s reception, you won't be best pleased if you switch. As you probably know, giffgaff uses O2, and they (along with Vodafone) are the worst provider for signal. I hardly ever manage to make a phone call while out and about without it cutting out. Id study o2's coverage map to make sure your area has coverage before making the jump.
EE or Virgin are your best bet signal wise. Im in the haggeling stages with Virgin atm, and so far, I've got them down to £8 for a 30 day contract, unlimited texts, unlimited data, and 1200 minutes.
As I say, check different networks coverage, then ring round making demands. You'll be surprised what you get if you ask!!
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Suck it and see buy a tenners worth of credit and see how you get on .
As GiffGaff are O2 it is something i would check first via the coverage maps for O2 network just in case of blackspot where you use the phone .
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When my Contract ended with T-mobile last year, I switched to Giffgaff & tbh couldn't be happier.
O2's Signal in my area is brilliant 5 bars H+ 98% of the time, even when i was in the remote part of the Lake District i still got a good signal.
I pay £15 per month for 400mins unlimited text & internet, all my smartphones from now on are bought Sim Free, already have the money stashed away for the Galaxy S IV next year. :good:
Great feedback dudes, I've ordered a free GG simcard, can I realistically use this to determine the strength of the signal as a test before I think about moving (I don't trust coverage maps that much - bad experiences)
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Yes you can. Please put me as reference so I can earn some points. My user name is a675432100
Thank you
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I have gone from giffgaff to 3 and i have no regrets!! I got sick of outages and poor internet speed
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Yep, try Giffgaff and see what the signal is like. Three have been excellent for me though, £24 a month for unlimited texts and internet plus 900 mins anytime minutes and 5000 three to three minutes, got my galaxy s2 with it for free as well. Sold it when the S3 came out.
GiffGaff is awesome Everytime my contract runs out i use giffgaff for awhile, This gives me time till a new device comes out or is released. And the best part is there is no contract to sign. You top it up every month on your own term. So if you don't top up then no minutes which is fine with me.
Best part is you always get Unlimited data. But be aware that they do not take kindly if you tether and download torrents and etc. You will have you sim suspended and ordering another one to your address is hard. Unless of course you email them an apology letter and say you will never do it again. Then they will give you a second chance.
Lol why do i know this because i was the one who tethered all day and downloaded 129.9GB worth of data LMAO!!
Other then that their price plans are awesome ranging from 5 to 20quid i prefer the £20 one as i need the minutes..
Signal is awesome for me no drops we always get full bars here in UK/London or east London where i live. Never had an issue with signal..
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GiffGaff is awesome Everytime my contract runs out i use giffgaff for awhile, This gives me time till a new device comes out or is released. And the best part is there is no contract to sign. You top it up every month on your own term. So if you don't top up then no minutes which is fine with me.
Best part is you always get Unlimited data. But be aware that they do not take kindly if you tether and download torrents and etc. You will have you sim suspended and ordering another one to your address is hard. Unless of course you email them an apology letter and say you will never do it again. Then they will give you a second chance.
Lol why do i know this because i was the one who tethered all day and downloaded 129.9GB worth of data LMAO!!
Other then that their price plans are awesome ranging from 5 to 20quid i prefer the £20 one as i need the minutes..
Signal is awesome for me no drops we always get full bars here in UK/London or east London where i live. Never had an issue with signal..
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I don't think I could go with GiffGaff after this, but £20 and a fair usage policy and no tethering?
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I don't think I could go with GiffGaff after this, but £20 and a fair usage policy and no tethering?
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Nope you can tether but if you do too much they will send you a horrible email lol.. Then your sim gets blocked out. You can download 30gb they won't say anything i do that all the time but after 30gb i think they get suspicious.. But it is my fault at that time i didn't have net at home i was waiting for my bt package to arrive. And i watch alot of films and tv shows plus i upload 24/7.. Seeing it was unlimited i took advantage. So you can't really blame giffgaff. They do not offer you a service for you to connect to your pc and use it like normal internet. You're slowing everyone down. Well at least that is what they told me..
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Nope you can tether but if you do too much they will send you a horrible email lol.. Then your sim gets blocked out. You can download 30gb they won't say anything i do that all the time but after 30gb i think they get suspicious.. But it is my fault at that time i didn't have net at home i was waiting for my bt package to arrive. And i watch alot of films and tv shows plus i upload 24/7.. Seeing it was unlimited i took advantage. So you can't really blame giffgaff. They do not offer you a service for you to connect to your pc and use it like normal internet. You're slowing everyone down. Well at least that is what they told me..
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But if they cut your sim off at all its not an unlimited connection, I'm actually surprised they are allowed to do that. If your gonna call it unlimited make sure it's unlimited no charges, cut off or throttle if your gonna do any of the above its actually limited even if it's 30GB its still a limit.
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But if they cut your sim off at all its not an unlimited connection, I'm actually surprised they are allowed to do that. If your gonna call it unlimited make sure it's unlimited no charges, cut off or throttle if your gonna do any of the above its actually limited even if it's 30GB its still a limit.
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Very true i was surprised my self when i got the email and my sim was blocked. They did unblock it after i apologized. To be honest i cannot be bothered to argue with them. As i know i won't be right. Unlimited means unlimited period no point restricting it then calling it UNLIMITED makes no sense..
To be fair to giffgaff it does say 'unlimited mobile web' that means it's unlimited data for use on your phone. It then says tethering is not allowed.
Dont think that they are hiding anything
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To be fair to giffgaff it does say 'unlimited mobile web' that means it's unlimited data for use on your phone. It then says tethering is not allowed.
Dont think that they are hiding anything
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Fair enough..
Can I topup with say £10 and try it out, then if happy, transfer my current phone number and goto a monthly contract?
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Can I topup with say £10 and try it out, then if happy, transfer my current phone number and goto a monthly contract?
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You can transfer your number no problems, but giffgaff are pay as you go only. Although, I top up via direct debit on the 1st of every month, so it works kind of like a 30 rolling contract.
Giffgaff have been quite lenient with me. I've taken the piss on many occations, but as long as its not constant, I don't think they really care. I've never had a snotty email, even though I've used stupid amounts of data. Exceeding the limited day after day is bound to raise eyebrows regardless of network. Even 3's all you can eat data plan has a fair usage cap, and speeds are significantly reduced if you go over board too often.
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All,
I'm moving from the US to the UK in a couple weeks. I currently have a Sprint S3 so I have to get a new phone when I move. I am leaning heavily toward the N4, HTC One, and S4, in this order. The N4 is about $100 cheaper to purchase in the US (about $350) then take it to the UK (about $480). Does anyone know if this would work, or must I buy the phone in the UK?
Also, for those here who live in the UK, what are your thoughts about a sim-only O2 plan? I don't really know anything about the UK providers but my future colleagues tell me O2 has pretty good service where I am moving. What US provider is O2 comparable in terms of service, support, and phones?
Given the price of the N4, it seems hands-down better than the others considering I would just wipe my brand new phone and install an AOSP rom anyways. Which brings me to my next question. I haven't spent a ton of time around the N4 forums, but how do the N4 roms compare to non-Nexus phone roms in terms of driver support and bugs? I had an Evo4G and now and S3, and also I'm happy with the AOSP roms I use, they have a lot of bugs. The GPS and camera, for instance, can easily bugout from one rom update to the next. I assume this would be less likely on a Nexus device.
Any other useful info going from the US to the UK, or an S3 to N4?
Thanks!
The N4 is the same model worldwide, so you will have no problem bringing a US N4 to the UK. It will work perfectly, your only minor issue will be that the US mains charger has the wrong pins for the UK (which can be fixed by a travel adapter or simply buying another charger).
I am not on O2 so can't comment on that.
You will find that pretty much all the N4 AOSP ROMs are very stable because of the fact that we have AOSP source/drivers for everything for our phone. No need to do nasty hacky stuff which results in major features not working. That's the beauty of Nexus.
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I would buy the N4, though I have one so obviously I am a little biased. CM has been stable for me, but stock is more than enough if stable is a massive priority for you. I would land in England and go buy a quick pre-paid sim from anyone. When I visited in September I spent 10 pounds on a Vodaphone Sim I used for 2 weeks with no problems. If you got something like that it would give you a chance to figure out who has good coverage and good prices before finding a more permanent solution. England has a verry competitive market, but you might find their speeds slower then America. There is only 1 provider with LTE right now as far as I know.
Steviewevie has pretty much summed it up nicely. What I can add is go for a Giffgaff £10/month deal where you get 250 mins, unlimited texts and 1GB of data. Giffgaff is an o2 owned network so you're getting the same coverage as o2 customers (which is very good) for a very low price. Even if you want a different deal I'd recommend sticking to Giffgaff for the most part. The main reason you should possibly consider going for something else is if you find data speeds to be very important because the most I get in my area is 6 mbps whilst my Dad on Three gets 15-20.
Giff Gaff or Three would be the ones to go for as you can get SIM only deals for less than £15 a month with unlimited data
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Wow, thanks for all of these awesome comments!!!!! This is better than I even imagined!!
Ok, so I am relocating to the Sheffield area. I will probably move the city centre area. Are O2, Three, and giffgaff reliable with good coverage in this area? How do the PayGo vs other sim-only plans differ? I would get the most minutes/text, and data possible so I'm looking at about 20-27 per month on each, the 20 is on Three with a 12-month contract.
Everything I was going to say had been covered.
+1 for giffgaff though
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Wow, thanks for all of these awesome comments!!!!! This is better than I even imagined!!
Ok, so I am relocating to the Sheffield area. I will probably move the city centre area. Are O2, Three, and giffgaff reliable with good coverage in this area? How do the PayGo vs other sim-only plans differ? I would get the most minutes/text, and data possible so I'm looking at about 20-27 per month on each, the 20 is on Three with a 12-month contract.
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How many minutes do you need? Giffgaff seems not to be that good with the number of minutes but everything else is great.
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Not sure about the number of minutes yet. I'll probably keep the number of minutes around 500-1000 to check the quality of the services.
I'm really more interested in tethering and data speeds. I have LTE service currently and use about 2GB per month on average.
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Not sure about the number of minutes yet. I'll probably keep the number of minutes around 500-1000 to check the quality of the services.
I'm really more interested in tethering and data speeds. I have LTE service currently and use about 2GB per month on average.
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You can check their coverage on their sites to see what sort of speeds you'll get. Not sure what the costs are with regards to tethering tho so best look that up
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Three's one plan comes at £25 per month.
That nets you 2000 mins
5000 SMS
Unlimited data and tethering included
Though personally I'm OK the ultimate internet 300 plan as I don't use many minutes
That is £13 per month (12 month contract) or £15 for monthly
It gets me 300 minutes
5000 SMS
Unlimited data
It doesn't include tethering however I still use it for tethering and after a year and a half. Nothing has been said.
If I have to make any international calls I just use Skype
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If your going to be ringing back home a lot and use Skype go with three as they don't block VoIP access.
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Three's one plan comes at £25 per month.
That nets you 2000 mins
5000 SMS
Unlimited data and tethering included
Though personally I'm OK the ultimate internet 300 plan as I don't use many minutes
That is £13 per month (12 month contract) or £15 for monthly
It gets me 300 minutes
5000 SMS
Unlimited data
It doesn't include tethering however I still use it for tethering and after a year and a half. Nothing has been said.
If I have to make any international calls I just use Skype
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So, why go with Three over giffgaff? Seems much cheap to go with them over O2 or Three.