I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
s6a6n6d6m6a6n said:
I have had the t-mobile t-zones $5.99 plan for over 4 years, now grandfathered, but it works flawlessly on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (WM6.5). No issues there. That phone however is only 3g.
I live in an area with full 4g spectrum and would surely like to make use of that.
With that said, i bought a non-contract HTC myTouch 4g.
After popping in my SIM, the web browser forwards me to an upsell page, where it asks me to upgrade my plan to a $30 android plan.
Now, times are tough and the gold is scarce so i'm definitely not looking to get a $25 jump in my plan, times two (for my wife too) total $50/mo more... for something that we already have for years.
I've tried various settings for APN that i could find from some forums but everything leads me back to the upsell page.
epc, wap, internet1, internet2 ... etc..
Interestingly I had tested this out on a friends phone a few months ago before buying my own, (myTouch 4G) using my SIM and it gave me an awesome throughput of close to 7megs down.
T-mo tech support said it'll not work with the $5.99 tzones as the android phone accesses the data in a different way! baloney!
Please point me in the right direction...
Has anyone made this work ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks!
Vik
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The support person was telling the truth, the phone really requires the 30 bux to get data. There's always the cheaper data w/ 200MB if you want that(Will use really quickly!). There's no way to avoid this,even if you are grandfathered in.
Unfortunately they know which phone your using from the imei number, and therefore block it. If you another phone that showed it as unknown or any phone that came out during that promotion would have worked.
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no wonder t-mo cant make it... no one should expect any company to give 4g for $6, let along unlimited 4g.
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Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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T-zone will work with any phone that is not a Blackberry, Android, Windows, or Symbian. The Nokia Nuron and the Samsung Gravity T are the two most popular options for that data feature.
bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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I agree. If you can afford to buy two MT4Gs off contract you can afford the data plan.
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bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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navarde said:
Dude I understand ur pain...u should return that device an get a non T-Mobile android phone.
It will be not be detected if it is an ATT phone for example and therefore will not required u to add a data plan, viceversa is the sameway. U see O .
But If you add it...certainly u will see a big difference on the use that you can give it to you PDA.
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AT&T phones will only get EDGE on T-mobile, and vice verse. Now if you get a Canadian HTC Glacier (myTouch 4G) or something it might be a different story...
I know how you feel. When I signed my wife up a year ago I had an iPhone and was using the T-Zones plan flawlessly. They saw that and were like, "t-zones doesn't even exist anymore" and made me upgrade my iPhone to a $20 plan. When I got the MT4G I had to upgrade to the $30 plan. It works well, but you're right, it's a lot of money...
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bretjrodgers said:
Stop being cheap. If you bought an expensive car, would you take it to wal mart for an oil change? If you want to keep the tzones, go back to your Motorola Razr and back to the dark ages, Fred Flintstone.
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We're all paying for smartphone data. What makes this guy think we'll help him scam the system and get way more than he's pay for?
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My judgmental friends, i'm looking for technical advise... not financial or personal.
You don't know me, nor my situation so don't judge.
And yes, i do drive an expensive car and I wouldn't mind taking it to Walmart if they serviced it or there was a Walmart nearby.
Please pay attention to this :
1. I've had t-zones for ages and over this period it has worked flawlessly with most models of Blackberry i have owned.
2. I have HTC Touch Pro 2, which runs WM6.5 for last 2 years and i get super 3G speeds unlimited, not the razor era Bamm Bamm!
3. I tested my SIM out with a colleagues HTC myTouch 4G before i got my own - and it worked awesome a month or so ago.
So in essence it's not the protocol the phone is accessing TCP, it's something T-Mobile is blocking.
This move by t-mobile would be justified if i got the device from them for free and obviously being fair, they want to recover their cost.
And yes, getting a non-contract phone is cheaper than getting a contract one in this case... astonishingly i used my 3rd grade math to figure that out.
In closing, i personally do not believe in the notion that "it cannot be done..." someone is already figuring it out somewhere in the world while you were saying that!!!!
Peace!
Technically, theoretically, there is a way to keep your tzones with tmobile by changing one number. But I think its illegal to do, nor will I tell you. And I think you will still be 3g...
I have to say suck it up and pay the piper. Oh and the data is $20 for preffered customers.
Why do you deserve to pay only $6 when the rest of us are paying for it? I've been on tmo since voice stream....
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Aggreed you can get 20 android web as a long standing customer. To get t zones to work you'll need to spoof your imei. And FWIW the nexus1 works with t zones because it was never sold in stores or thru tmo.
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DUDDES!!! THE INTENT OF XDA IS FOR SUPPORT.
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Technical support, I agree with u. If you had purchased a different PDA on different provider it would not required to update your service. The network recognizes the imei of the phone and by the new pda policy you have to add a data.
It happens with every provider.
Good luck man.
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EDIT: Comment deleted. Ain't worth it.
Just to help the OP out, the reason why the mytouch 4g probably worked was because you inserted a new sim into the phone. That's why, alot of phones work the first couple days using a phone with tzones but after a couple days, you're sent to the upsell page. Tmobile has a listing of all the imei's that they sell.
The nexus one was not officially sold through tmobile - always sold through google.com. As such, tmobile doesn't "have" your imei to know, but they kinda do. if you called into 611 in the first few months of the nexus one release, it sent you to google for tech support vs. tmobiles helpline. however, tmobile just chose to never block the nexus one. however, if you bought a g2, mytouch 4g, nexus s, etc....your tzones normally works for about 24-48 hours and then boom...upsell page. I know this cause everytime there's a new phone release, i try to see if it works on tzones. I personally can understand not wanting to leave tzones. I have it from when it was 2.99 + i get a 18% student discount that has yet to stop too. it's hard for me to let go of unlimited internet for so cheap, but in all honesty, i make enough money where i probably should pay the $20 for the unlimited android plan so i don't have to be so picky and choosy with my phones. before the whole 3g craze, i would change phones every few months.....and now, i keep using my nexus one and buy other phones and won't relinquish the nexus one because it's incompatible with the cheap data plan. I think i just might let it go for the sensation 4g though, we'll see. i've had to say goodbye to a tmobile g2, nexus s, and g2x already.
hey u guys only pay 20 bucks for unlimited data on the mytouch 4g? they charge me 30 dollars and i have been with tmobile since 2009 lol
Need a promo plan to get promo data. Got 3 lines unlimited text, 3K mins, and unlimited data with the 5GB soft cap, not 2GB. Paying 175. Also my line routinely bumps 10GB plus without any balk from tmo. Maybe cuz my mom doesn't touch her data so they let me munch off her allotment.
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I've tried internet2.voicestream.com and wap.voicestream.com and it isn't working. Running stock. Would it work if I rooted and put on cm6 or is there another way to get it to work? Thank you.
I believe T-mo closed that loophole a long time ago, because it does check against your IMEI number.
LoL. Wanting $10 internet on a $600 phone...
Aloha from beautiful Hawaii
Android internet is only ten nix more. Payup, its worth it
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Double/cross post much?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881642
Please post questions in Q&A section and use the search feature next time.
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Android internet is only ten nix more. Payup, its worth it
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Really? For an Android internet? How do you get that pricing? They're charging me $30/mo on mine..
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call retention (611) and ask them for the Android Preferred Web.
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call retention (611) and ask them for the Android Preferred Web.
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Does the Android Preferred Web include the 4G network?
I'm also paying 30 bucks a month for mine and under services it's called 4G Web - Unlimited.
However my mom has a Samsung Vibrant and under services for her it says Android Unlimited Web.
I think she pays 25 for that.
What's the difference b/t your 20 dollar plan and my 30?
And how would I go about getting this option?
It's the same plan. The difference is in marketing terms. You need to call retentions or what they call loyalty department.
Ask then if you could apply the android preferred web plan since your friend(s) have it.
I am currently using an iPhone 3GS with T-Mobile using the $10 unlimited data plan... If I upgrade to the MT4G, will that plan still work on the MT4G?
I read I can just change the APN and viola it should work...
No it won't. You'll have to get on a andriod data plan or 4g plan.
$30 a mo.
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or, if you've been with t-mo for a while, call up retentions and see if you can't get the Preferred Android data plan - $20 a mo.
the plan should still work on the MT4G but i dont know if you will get 4g service or not
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or, if you've been with t-mo for a while, call up retentions and see if you can't get the Preferred Android data plan - $20 a mo.
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I have heard of this option, but I'd rather save the $120/year if I can.
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the plan should still work on the MT4G but i dont know if you will get 4g service or not
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Do you have experience with this? I can forgo 4G at the moment, I'm using EDGE speeds so 3G would be great!
I went from an WinMo phone to Android and had to switch to an Android plan because they cut me off of my old plan.
I think the trick to it is if you use a non T-Mo branded phone, you may not need to update your data plan. An Android phone from T-Mo will have it's IMEI number pop up on their network and they'll know that it's and Android phone and will make you switch to their Android plan.
I was only with T-Mo for 6 months before I changed phones and asked for the preferred data plan ($20).
If you UPGRADE you will have to pay the $30 unlimited data a month fee. That is the only way you can get the phone at a subsidized price. If you buy the phone off contract then the $10 data will work
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If you UPGRADE you will have to pay the $30 unlimited data a month fee. That is the only way you can get the phone at a subsidized price. If you buy the phone off contract then the $10 data will work
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This!
If you buy it elsewhere besides T-mobile, they cant force the upgrade on you. I mean they could since they can see what phone you have, but highly unlikely.
I would double check the price plans if I were you guys. I may be wrong but I went into a T-mobile Official store yesterday and will be getting a Mytouch4g later today, and they told me my total monthly price for everything including unlimited text talk web and 4g was going to be a flat 79.99 US a month. could be wrong but that's what they told me and what the brochure says about the plan
I had an iPhone 3g with t-mobile (only on edge) with the $19.99 data plan. I spoke with the "customer loyalty" dept. The assured me that if I upgraded to a mytouch 4g, they would substitute my $19.99 unlimited data plan with a $20.00 unlimited 4g plan. Sure enough, I am good to go. I was eligable for a full-upgrade, so they actually sold me the phone for $150 rather than $200 as well.
Can anyone advise on this? I just got my MT4G and the $10 plan with the changed APN to internet2.voicestream.com won't work.
Is there a fix or anything I can do?
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Can anyone advise on this? I just got my MT4G and the $10 plan with the changed APN to internet2.voicestream.com won't work.
Is there a fix or anything I can do?
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theres nothing you can really do about this. i was on the same thing with my iphone3GS. they will recognize the phone and it will auto direct you to the upgrade website.
Plus if you want the $100 rebate, you have to get the $30 data plan
If you go thru loyalty department you can get MANY deals. But T-Mobile can't force the upgrade if you buy the phone elsewhere. They will tell you that to have optimal usage and performance, the unlimited 4g plan is needed. And for the 79.99 deal, you can easily get that since the phones been out for a while and if you go through loyalty department. T-Mobile will do alot of deals to keep customers
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I've been a TMO customer for a few years now, and I can tell you that their customer service is second to none. If you ever want to change your plan or upgrade your hardware then call the customer service number and say "contract," that will get you to the customer loyalty rep. From there, you can be sure that you're going to get the best deal possible. My wife and I both upgraded our MT3Gs for MT4Gs eight months before we were supposed to be eligible for an upgrade, and they gave us the full discount...and it was during the buy one get one deal, so we got them both for $150 (or $75 each)! On top of that, they gave us an unlimited texting plan for both of us for $10/month... Since we still have or My Faves shared voice plan from years ago for $60/month, our total monthly bill for both phones is only $127 (with taxes and fees, including the preferred android unlimited data on both lines). Oh yeah, I should also mention that we didn't even have data on our MT3Gs; we had hit some hard times financially at one point, and they let us drop it without any charges or fees whatsoever. TMO has the best customer service I have ever dealt with, just let then know exactly what you want, and why you want it.
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So I was going to buy a G2 today. The guy that was selling it to me works at a T-mobile kiosk in the mall (actually, he said that he owned them at that particular mall), and I wanted to test out the data speeds with my sim card. I currently have a nexus 1. Well, I am really glad that did that before buying the phone because I found out that you need to upgrade to a 4G data plan after trying to browse the web on the phone. I don't know why that never occurred to me in the first place. I am off contract right now and didn't want to recommit to another two years, plus being able to tether and use as a wifi hotspot for free is a nice perk, haha. Granted, I guess COULD change all that with rooting, but the whole process confuses me and I have yet to take the plunge on my N1. Also, I am currently testing out whether I would get throttled with my current plan because I have 3 days left on this billing cycle. So am doing everything i can to use data. Anyway, the guy wanted $290 for the phone, but it was a little bit more dinged up than I would have cared, plus some very light scratches on the screen. The spring was also very VERY loose.
Tmobile doesn't not charge extra for "4G".
There is no 4G data plan and it isn't extra. That kiosk does not sound very reputable, either.
Also, the n1 is super easy to root since it was basically made for it.
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If you are off contract all you need to do is call customer care, shout "retention" until you get forwarded to a rep and have them add a $10 data plan to your em+ plan. Even better, get onto the internet live service rep directly & explain what it is you're trying to do. I have found that they're much better at directly answering questions & implementing plan changes than the telephone jockeys.
This guy is trying to jerk your proverbial chicken.
I also find it hard to believe that you haven't rooted your n1. What rock have you been living under?
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I also find it hard to believe that you haven't rooted your n1. What rock have you been living under?
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Lol I just haven't had much need to do it until recently, I guess. Plus might send it in for a warranty exchange because I have some dust under the screen and I dont want them to squawk at me for rooting the phone.
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There is no 4G data plan and it isn't extra. That kiosk does not sound very reputable, either.
Also, the n1 is super easy to root since it was basically made for it.
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I pay $35 per month for unlimited text and data. He said I would have to sign on for a $30 per month 4G data plan and then $15 for unlimited texts because I didn't want to renew my contract. $30 + $15 = $45, or ten dollars more. I reckon I could call tmo directly, but I just haven't put much thought into it.
Answer is simple, send it in for an exchange and if they can't give you another N1, have them send you a g2.
If it is to much of a concern, you could offer the guy $290 for the physical phone, get tmo to change your plan and replace the springs with the recently posted guide. Even with some scratches, $290 is a hell of a deal for a g2.
I have in my hands a iphone 2g that i guarantee will work for unlimited data.
Rental services work like this.
A writen contract with address name phone number and valid verified paypal account.
A rental fee of 20. Plus shipping costs(depending on how fast you want it to your place)
I might have to go for the 2-3 due to a couplle people wanting this" asap"
The person currently in possetion of the phone may have to mail it to next client
Phone will be nicely handled no mater how much you hate apple. The screen has dead pixels ill post picture tomorrow and its condition. So this being said you break it you buy (parts) for my phone. So be nice to it like if it were your Atrix or otherwise.
Pm if your interested. Ill include my Cellphone here if you want to call this order in. 5037020306 no spam. Ill eat your face with a rusty muffler.
kinda odd.... but i can see this ending badly either way you look at it.
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kinda odd.... but i can see this ending badly either way you look at it.
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this thread will not last.
Aslong as kids don't steal I wont have to invoice for a replacement. its simple and done often. But if it makes any difference other forums of the pc Overclocking type have buy/sell/trade what's the difference between rent/temporary selling?
20 dollars for how long? iphone 2g as in edge speeds?
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20 dollars for how long? iphone 2g as in edge speeds?
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point is to unlock unlimited data plan for 30 bucks a month on your phone, not to downgrade to edge
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20 dollars for how long? iphone 2g as in edge speeds?
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It's a rental to activate your SIM card for the unlimited data plan. You're simply renting the 2G iPhone to get the unlimited data plan.
I see where you're coming from OP, but if you don't have a high down payment, you may not see your phone again.
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Aslong as kids don't steal I wont have to invoice for a replacement. its simple and done often. But if it makes any difference other forums of the pc Overclocking type have buy/sell/trade what's the difference between rent/temporary selling?
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..... and i thought the difference between buy/sell/trade and rent/temporary sell were pretty clear cut.
Buy: purchase item from seller to take ownership
Sell: sell item to interested buyer to make money
Trade: exchange goods you don't need for something you do need
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Rent: loan to interested party with the promise of it being returned
Temporary sell: ...... rent?
I don't think i've ever seen a hardware rental topic in a PC hardware forum. I know people sometimes will send the hardware to you before you pay just so you can make sure you're not gonna get screwed over, with the expectancy of being paid if satisfied. It's happened to me. Bought a GTX 570 off of someone from Guru3D. So far paid for half of it, and will be paying the second half this week. Wouldn't exactly call that a "rental" though.
You don't need to rent to do it, I didnt even have iphone 2g and I got unlimited data with modification of original idea by thinking out of the box
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do that many people not have unlimited data that there is a need for this? I know I have unlimited for my phone. When I got the atrix they tried to put me on the pay for data plan but all I did was ask to be grandfathered in from my old unlimited data plan and they carried it over to the atrix.
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You don't need to rent to do it, I didnt even have iphone 2g and I got unlimited data with modification of original idea by thinking out of the box
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Care to explain how you did it?
BTW - I pm'd you, I'm down for the rental. I desperately need to get my Inspire on an unlimited plan.
I found a iPhone 2g imie on internet, example is eBay, I called customer care told them I wanted to use it and asked for correct data plan for it then I had a retailer change it back to atrix with unlimited data but I forget to have them put imie back on and only got 3g unlimited til I had them correct imie then they switch it to 4g unlimited. I get no BS like u get from customer care about not wanting you to keep it
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do that many people not have unlimited data that there is a need for this? I know I have unlimited for my phone. When I got the atrix they tried to put me on the pay for data plan but all I did was ask to be grandfathered in from my old unlimited data plan and they carried it over to the atrix.
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this is sad that people have to go through this to get unlimited data.. to switch to my atrix my phones on hold and at&t had to submit and inquiry to that department to switch the phone back to unlimited. so when i get my atrix im gonna have to be prorated for my 2gb data plan for 48-72 hours before I get my unlimited back o.o FAIL.
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I found a iPhone 2g imie on internet, example is eBay, I called customer care told them I wanted to use it and asked for correct data plan for it then I had a retailer change it back to atrix with unlimited data but I forget to have them put imie back on and only got 3g unlimited til I had them correct imie then they switch it to 4g unlimited. I get no BS like u get from customer care about not wanting you to keep it
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Hmmm I might try this. How much was the iPhone 2G imei on eBay and did customer care give you any other options for the data plan, meaning is there no way they can deny you from the unlimited plan?
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There is only one iPhone 2g data plan which is unlimited, didn't pay for imie just borrowed it, tried to buy one but prices kept climbing on iPhone 2g
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Hey I'm getting a rezound in a week or so, and I wanted to ask, can my friend put some kind of prepaid no data service on the inc and use it when I get the rezound
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As far as I know no I have a inc on my prepay account and a data package is required when selecting a plan.
I was thinking about going prepaid... and I didn't spend much time researching. I got the impression that you can get like 400 minutes talk and unlimited data for the same price I'm paying now, about $75/mo.
The deal is more of a "month to month" deal (albeit prepaid) than one where you pay a chunk of cash and use the service until your minutes (or data) run out. I assume (you know what happens when I assume) anyone with a Verizon capable phone could do that. I can't imagine Verizon turning down money.
Like I said, I didn't spend much time researching. Once I saw the price was same as I was paying... there was no point for me to investigate further. Basically its the same deal that happens have when a contract is done... but if verizon isn't pre-paid... service will be cut immediately.
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I am using my Incredible with them. They are a Verizon Wireless MVNO and have several plans to choose from. Check them out.
RE: Page Plus Cellular - FYI -They will disable data on any plan at our request. This is particularly helpful if on a paygo plan (vs one of the monthly bundle plans ) and truly don't want data .
Wow tyvm everyone, really helped
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I'm in the process of looking for a T-Mobile 4G phone to use on Simple Mobile and their 4G plan - 60 dollar unlimited