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Nexus S and Galaxy S camera modules comparison

Here is Nexus S camera module from Ifixit.com
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And here is Galaxy's S camera module from media it:
You can see that they are little bit different... So Is that mean, that Nexus S cannot record 720p in connection with hardware problems...
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That is a humongous difference. That's probably what allows the Galaxy S the shoot 720p. Still kinda bummed over this.

Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
that's enough

Pako7 said:
Camera module on devices :
SGS - NEC CE147
Nexus S - Samsung S5K4ECGX
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Bummer.
10char

It appears that the NEC-10170 found in the SGS allows for 720P video capture, obsviously missing from the Nexus S.

The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.

JCopernicus said:
The 720p limitation has to do with the soc setup, not the camera hardware.
The camera drivers are apparently open sourced btw, so expect to see 720 put up sooner than the N1.
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My speculation. I'd assume the NEC MC-10170 does some of the processing as to make 720P recording attainable/reasonable on the SGS. There was no room on the PCB to include it in the Nexus S. I can't really find a whitepaper on the NEC MC-10170 however.
I'm interested to see how this plays out.

Sorry to recall this old thread but even that both are different, is it possible to at least get a not laggy video recording driver???, can the settings be modified in any way or can the driver be obtained from another android phone that runs the same part?, I mean there is a driver modified for the fruity phone 3G and 3GS that enables the phone to record at 720p, is it possible to get a solution like that for the Nexus or are we condemned to crappy camera vid record???

LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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Rem3Dy said:
LOL. I have no problems recording video. While it isn't 720p at least its smooth.
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The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.

fenrry said:
The problem is not present on the NS4G but on the original Nexus S.
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What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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I had a galaxy s before my nexus and successfully transplanted the guts of one into the shell of another that had a dead sd card. The extra piece you see attached to the galaxy s camera is a chip that connects to the board of the galaxy, the camera has a separate chip for processing. A chip that processes 720p recording. The nexus s uses the phones hardware to process its camera. Either way, it comes down to software, not the processor. Pretty simple issue of drivers needed to process the camera image (theyre both the same camera) into 720p.
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Its not pretty simple. It can't be done in real time without the hardwade encoder. The phone simply doesn't have a fadt enough processor to software encode HD.
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sagech said:
What's the problem with video recording on the original nexus s? Can you give a link to a YouTube video or something?
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There is a very annoying and common lag, a glitch that happens once in a while, pls see the following examples:
a) at 0:09 >>>Here
b) at 0:41 >>>Here
c) at the first 20 secs >>>Here
d) at 0:15 >>>Here
e) this is mine, check at 0:10, a full second >>>Here
Not only that it happens but is random and is rather extremely annoying, I shot the other day a full 2 mins vid and it came nice but the next day I was recording for like 20 secs and it was there......btw, in the Nexus S running stock is very common and happens a lot, with the Roms is not as common but it does still happen...
If not half HD (720), at least make it so it can record smoothly, I got better vids from the fruity phone 3GS, the 9000, or my old and trusty W300i.

Samsung Galaxy S II shows its raw power,Flash in browser performance test

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Naturally, being the replacement for the well-known Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, the Galaxy S II has to fit the very large shoes of its predecessor. And judging by the initial impressions from quickly playing around with the device – it does pretty well. The user interface is ridiculously snappy and the phone, despite its mammoth size, feels alive and light.
And just to give you a taste of what kind of performance we are talking about, we’ve prepared a short video of the Galaxy S II playing a 720p HD YouTube video straight within the stock Android browser.
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Wow so smooth and fast!!
Also a screen rotation animation!
Nice video thanks
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Brumble said:
Wow so smooth and fast!!
Also a screen rotation animation!
Nice video thanks
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Yes,that's what i said,its damn smooth & fast

Yep stikingly fast un comparison to SGS and even new SE ARC.CAnt wait for may/june release
Can wait to see full review

Yup super smooth
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Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.

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Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.
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Then how do you play them ?

It comes with a pre installed flash player. Which i suppose, like the atrix's own, is optimized specifically for the galaxy s.
I have a captivate right now, and it's running 2.2, and whilst it can play 720p youtube videos, they are choppy, so not much use. More than likely however, it will be able to play it more smoothly when a T&t rolls out the gingerbread update for it. If they ever plan to. =.=

No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash videos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout playing it straight within the browser. I just asked him to figure out if he really know this trick or not
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touness69 said:
No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash vidéos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout play it straight within the browser. I just asked him to know if he really know this trick or not
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What UA String do you use?

touness69 said:
No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash videos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout playing it straight within the browser. I just asked him to figure out if he really know this trick or not
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There's no trick they play fine without setting anything up.

Is that kinetic bounce back at 0:34??

another smooth internet browsing for SGS2, even beat nexus s & other dual core phone, this make me more excited to get this phone!!

Lovin It... Thanks

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There's no trick they play fine without setting anything up.
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Oh yeah ? So you can play a 720p vid butterly smooth straight from the défault browser on a galaxy S ?
Come on there is stuter with a 480p vid even with flash 10.2
another smooth internet browsing for SGS2, even beat nexus s & other dual core phone, this make me more excited to get this phone!!
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OMGGG I want that now , that's ridiculously smoothhh

Toss3 said:
Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.
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It largely depends on the bit rate of the video. I could make a video that has a resolution of 480X272 that even the SGS II could not play. Bit rate is...not everything, but most things, with video.
Also, it sounds more like you're viewing the HTML 5 version of it than the Flash version, but IDK.

I was going to wait for the G2x. IDK now. Is this coming to t-mobile?

touness69 said:
Oh yeah ? So you can play a 720p vid butterly smooth straight from the défault browser on a galaxy S ?
Come on there is stuter with a 480p vid even with flash 10.2
OMGGG I want that now , that's ridiculously smoothhh
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Simply put - yes. Not using the flash version from the market. Both HD videos from gametrailers and 720p videos from gsmarena play fine.
EDIT: It's actually running the 10.1 version of the flash player

@ tou
There is stutter for 480p videos. But It is only present at the start, due to the loading and I guess the cpu getting ready. After the start, it plays like any other flash video.

Yes the G2X is for TMobile although the specs of the SGS II surpass any device announced to date.

Tmobile galaxy s 2 test results for real!

okay, i just got my tmo samsung galaxy s 2 as early relase and ran few tests.
i did regular quadrant, smartbench 2011, cf bench.
tested couple times for each.
here are the results.
ps. i forgot to post it, but i also did speed test, and i've been getting 10+ Mbps download speeds and about 3~5 upload. I live in Philadelphia
i also did vallemo, the score ranged from late 800s to mid 900s.
worth buying it or not?
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Very impressive, how's the front camera?
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actually, it was really good.
i tried tango with my friends, had no problem at all.
i'm lovin this phone!!
my friends have both att and sprint version of SGSII, but i don't think tmo's isn't that bad compared to them

Can you play MKV's in the stock video player?
The lack of good out-of-the-box video support is what's holding me back from getting a non-exynos version of the sgs2.

This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.

reuthermonkey said:
Can you play MKV's in the stock video player?
The lack of good out-of-the-box video support is what's holding me back from getting a non-exynos version of the sgs2.
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it's definitely worth it IMO

lookitzjohnny said:
This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.
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web browsing experience is amazing.
everything loads up almost instantly
faster then other SGSIIs by att or sprint IMO
and smooth as well(or hell).

Have you tested the gps?
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Meh. Show me it competes with the upcomming Prime or that it has a backlit illuminated camera. Otherwise it's old news.

Hachi88 said:
Have you tested the gps?
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i don't know what you really mean by testing the gps, but i tried to locate myself on the app called "TeleNav GPS Navigator." it seems it's doing what it's supposed to do.
only couple meters off i think.

}{Alienz}{ said:
Meh. Show me it competes with the upcomming Prime or that it has a backlit illuminated camera. Otherwise it's old news.
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ehh,, it's just me. i'm happy with this phone

Hachi88 said:
Have you tested the gps?
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The GPS on the SGSII's are perfectly fine.
lookitzjohnny said:
This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.
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It's just nicer having hardware acceleration for video decoding. Less glitchiness. Smoother overall. That's why I like the Hummingbird in the Vibrant.

reuthermonkey said:
The GPS on the SGSII's are perfectly fine.
It's just nicer having hardware acceleration for video decoding. Less glitchiness. Smoother overall. That's why I like the Hummingbird in the Vibrant.
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It should be able to as Samsung has a whole bunch of codecs which wouldn't be hard to implement into qualcomm s3 processor. The sound should be better as well compared to the original Samsung galaxy 2. Looks like Samsung can use qualcomm processor to its full potential unlike htc. I will be picking mines up at the store on release date. Now all we need is a forum.

Killbynature said:
It should be able to as Samsung has a whole bunch of codecs which wouldn't be hard to implement into qualcomm s3 processor. The sound should be better as well compared to the original Samsung galaxy 2. Looks like Samsung can use qualcomm processor to its full potential unlike htc. I will be picking mines up at the store on release date. Now all we need is a forum.
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cool! enjoy ur phone! 2 more days for u i guess?
i'm loving this phone so much that i can't stop smiling, literally lol
the back cover feels amazing.... can't let it go.
and yea! we want our own forummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOW!!
i need the root method so bad.

hm... i just realized, i'm hearing a small metallic clining sound from the phone when the person i'm calling is talking.
maybe it's defect?
anyway i'm getting a exchange tonight.
i hope the other phone doesn't have any problems...
darn it, i just spent 30 dollars on a screen shield lol

dskim0506 said:
darn it, i just spent 30 dollars on a screen shield lol
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Like a zagg screen protector?
Out of curiosity... Why?
The SGS Vibrant and the SGSII both have gorilla glass. http://gizmodo.com/5726124/what-is-gorilla-glass

I was reading some of the reviews and it mentioned that the phone didn't have wificalling? Is this true?

Dattack said:
I was reading some of the reviews and it mentioned that the phone didn't have wificalling? Is this true?
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It is no longer an application it is build into the system now under wireless networks.
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Killbynature said:
It is no longer an application it is build into the system now under wireless networks.
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Have you tried it to see if it works? That was one of the selling points to me. Then I heard it wouldn't work and then I heard an update would activate it. Don't know what to believe.

Proves agian samsung is better than htc but this phone still doesnt make my mouth water
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What's wrong with my WiFi

So, I'm getting horrible WiFi speeds on my Nexus 7. Even though the "connection speed" looks like it should be faster than my One X, the Nexus 7 lags waaaay behind.
Both devices are connected to my home WiFi network, and both speed tests were done with the same server, at approximately the same time. Both devices are running CM10 nightlys (with the Nexus 7 being Fitsnugly's Kang). Soooooo... what's the deal? Should I post this in the JellyBro thread?
This is my desktop computer, on a wired connection, just to show what my ISP is capable of.
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This is my One X
This is my Nexus 7
What's the deal? Any advice is appreciated!!
Billy

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So, I'm getting horrible WiFi speeds on my Nexus 7. Even though the "connection speed" looks like it should be faster than my One X, the Nexus 7 lags waaaay behind.
Both devices are connected to my home WiFi network, and both speed tests were done with the same server, at approximately the same time. Both devices are running CM10 nightlys (with the Nexus 7 being Fitsnugly's Kang). Soooooo... what's the deal? Should I post this in the JellyBro thread?
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What's the deal? Any advice is appreciated!!
Billy
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OK, I see that the "connection speed" changes, but with the devices side by side, the N7 always shows a better signal quality and higher "connection speed", yet always tests lower. And I'm not just complaining about a speedtest... the whole reason I started looking into this is because I couldn't get through 2 minutes of HD YouTube without 30 seconds of buffering
Thanks again,
Billy

OK, this is weird! This is with the One X on 3G and the Nexus 7 connected to it via WiFi...
One X
Nexus 7
Thanks,
Billy
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I don't have a solution, but I am looking for an answer to this question as well. I've had a similar experience with excessive buffering on YouTube videos that I don't have with any of my other devices.
Overall the download speed and browsing speed of the N7 seems fine, but it just constantly buffers sometimes for YouTube videos.
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I get similar speeds on my Nexus 7 (WiFi) and my Desktop (Ethernet). Nexus 7 scores a bit higher on upload speeds though...
I'm using franco.Kernel r5 with the updated WiFi driver. To anyone with WiFi issues, what kernel are you running?

WiFi speed/connection issues are notoriously difficult to pin down, there are too many variables.
Try a few WiFi analysers on Play. Try connecting on different channels.

espionage724 said:
I get similar speeds on my Nexus 7 (WiFi) and my Desktop (Ethernet). Nexus 7 scores a bit higher on upload speeds though...
I'm using franco.Kernel r5 with the updated WiFi driver. To anyone with WiFi issues, what kernel are you running?
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I was running stock kernel. Then I installed PA and used whatever the default cyanogenmod kernel is. I just switched to trinity. I'm not really plagued with problems or anything like that. I just occasionally have what seems like excessive buffering on short YouTube videos. I'm going to see if trinity affects it at all over the next few days.
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espionage724 said:
I get similar speeds on my Nexus 7 (WiFi) and my Desktop (Ethernet). Nexus 7 scores a bit higher on upload speeds though...
I'm using franco.Kernel r5 with the updated WiFi driver. To anyone with WiFi issues, what kernel are you running?
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I'm using the stock CM10 Kernel.
RockNrolling said:
I don't have a solution, but I am looking for an answer to this question as well. I've had a similar experience with excessive buffering on YouTube videos that I don't have with any of my other devices.
Overall the download speed and browsing speed of the N7 seems fine, but it just constantly buffers sometimes for YouTube videos.
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Yeah, who knows why they took the "buffering options" out of the settings menu for the Nexus 7, but that seems like a dumb move to me! I tried copying the apk from my phone (which has buffering options) over to my Nexus 7, but it didn't change anything... it must be doing it based on the class of device or something. Paul O'Brien was able to re-enable it, but I haven't looked into how he did it.
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WiFi speed/connection issues are notoriously difficult to pin down, there are too many variables.
Try a few WiFi analysers on Play. Try connecting on different channels.
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Yeah, I agree, except that I'm able to make the vast majority of the variables the same between the two devices. I've got two devices, same WiFi, same channel, same physical location, same interferance, same rom... as far as I can tell, the only differences are drivers/hidden settings and hardware/antennas. Since most people don't have this problem, I feel like it's gotta be software/drivers/hidden settings, right?
Does anybody know how I can tell what protocol the tablet is connect with (802.11A/B/G/N)?
Thanks all!
Billy

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Since most people don't have this problem, I feel like it's gotta be software/drivers/hidden settings, right?
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If most people don't have 'this problem' but everyone else has the same software and drivers then it's unlikely to be either the software or the drivers and more likely to be either hardware or environmental issues.
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If most people don't have 'this problem' but everyone else has the same software and drivers then it's unlikely to be either the software or the drivers and more likely to be either hardware or environmental issues.
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I'm not trying to be argumentative, but environmental issues are ruled out with the One X, sitting right next to the Nexus 7, performing flawlessly, and software is a whole helluva lot easier to modify/corrupt than hardware. I guess I should start with a full wipe and go from there... I was just hoping to get some new ideas (and I DO appreciate your response!).
Thanks,
Billy
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JeepFreak said:
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but environmental issues are ruled out with the One X, sitting right next to the Nexus 7, performing flawlessly, and software is a whole helluva lot easier to modify/corrupt than hardware. I guess I should start with a full wipe and go from there... I was just hoping to get some new ideas (and I DO appreciate your response!).
Thanks,
Billy
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Seems you have all the answers and evidence you need too come to a conclusion.
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Youtube Playback... HORRIBLE quality!

Hello everyone, I'm a new S4 i9505 "happy" owner.
I'm happy with everything about my new phone, EXCEPT when it comes to the Youtube application.
Whether I'm on 3G/4G or Wifi, the quality of videos is definitely BAD... borders look blurry, unacceptable. And I'm talking about HD videos. Videos that are supposed to be 1080p.
Yes, the HD option is turned on.
My friend owns an HTC One and Youtube videos looks just great, just the way they're supposed to be.
How is this possible? Do I have a defective device? In any other situation the display looks perfectly fine.
Did anybody else notice this?
Thanks in advance.

I just checked and it happens to me too ... i have the gt i9500 ...

have you guys tried updating the application an update came out a couple of days back ...
i hav i9500 and didnt face any problems like this till now....

UPDATE:
Ok, this is pretty strange.
I decided to uninstall the downloaded Youtube app and restore the stock one (I run the latest Samsung firmware).
SURPRISE! Problem is GONE! Videos are now crystal clear! Just as they should be.
I wander where the problem is with the latest Youtube app... During the playback I click the "HD" symbol (option on top right of the screen) and it seems turned ON (no red line under though.
Anyone else tried??

Quality on my i9100 is poor even in hd. I'm running carbon room 1.8 and things were fine before YouTube update...

I have the same problem on my Galaxy S2 LTE. It has nothing to do with my network, Wi-Fi, or video quality as I've read elsewhere.
Videos looked clear with the old YouTube, but when they updated the interface, videos look pixelated when in full screen. It's like they left out the smoothing for when videos get resized.

Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Obagleyfreer said:
Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Well, no. Video quality on the latest Youtube app (v5.021) is simply awesome :good:

Have you increased the video quality in setting's? I'm playing full 1080 videos. No issues here
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I have the same problem with the new UI (latest version). Playing movies in HD quality looks a lot worse than in the previous version. Don't really wanna roll back because I love the new design. Hope someone finds a fix.
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Anyone found a solution yet?
I hate the new version's video quality.

I 've been Googling for a solution but haven't found one yet. There are multiple topics about this though but none have a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414543
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/nRKQSLD95Qw
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1885518
http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-2013/765061-youtube-poor-video-quality.html
I wonder if it 's only a minority that is bothered by it or if people just don't see it. I 'm gonna do a rollback and I 'll try and post a before & after pic to show the difference.

Ok, I 've made a comparison of one of my movies with the two latest versions:
Version 4.5.17 (previous version of Youtube, with the old UI):
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You can clearly see a difference especially around the edges. It 's harder to spot in a still than in a movie but you can still see it. Look closely at the edges of my jacket, the snow, the funbox or the treeline
I 'm sticking with version 4.5.17 until Google fixes this. Even though I like the new UI, it doesn't really add anything besides the stupid floating window which I actually find annoying.
My device is a Desire HD running Mustaavalkosta 's CM10.1 SR1.1 ROM. Resolution of this device is 800x480 on a 4.3" screen.

People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.

yingjai said:
People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.
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That is exactly what it looks like. You see this a lot in games but I had never seen this before in movies. It 's like they disabled AA for some reason.

Got the new Galaxy Note 3 and am glad to say the pixelated effect is not present on stock Jellybean. It is still present on my Skyrocket with CM11, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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The latest version finally solved this!!

Last version of youtube and no problem:thumbup:
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