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[Q] what's the differences between cm7_defy and defyplus

what's the differences between cm7 for defy and defyplus?
Can defyplus used the defy-cm7?

that not the same battery and the kernel is adapted for that

Defy builds uses froyo kernel whereas defy + builds uses gingerbread kernel. to install defy versions on defy +, you need to install bl6 group and flash, however battery may not charge tohundred percent. The defy + builds can be used by defy red lens and regular defy +. Green lens defy will have problems with camera if we flash defy + bulls, green bread mod may work on few roms.
I'm having defy red lens and using cm72 defy + builds with Walter 4.5.3-109 kernel which gives best battery life.
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premaca said:
Defy builds uses froyo kernel whereas defy + builds uses gingerbread kernel. to install defy versions on defy +, you need to install bl6 group and flash, however battery may not charge tohundred percent. The defy + builds can be used by defy red lens and regular defy +. Green lens defy will have problems with camera if we flash defy + bulls, green bread mod may work on few roms.
I'm having defy red lens and using cm72 defy + builds with Walter 4.5.3-109 kernel which gives best battery life.
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which sbf you used?
I flashed the DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-132 O2.en.DE with CM7 and cannt boot up with the Walter 4.5.3-109 kernel (and any other kernel ).
I can only used the 4.5.1-134_DFP-132 kernel .
sorry for my poor english!

If you have *redlens* defy you can flash Quarx CM72 builds with walter kernel. The 4.5.3-109 kernel gives good battery life which you can use with 0316 builds. FOr ealier releases this kernel will give bootloop (this issue Quarx fixed from 0316 onwards) so you flash 4.5.2.109-dht_22 kernel.
The build can get from http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/ you can install CM9 kernel for it boot. Later you can change the kernel for better battery life.
The walter kernels are attached down - which you can flash via CWM.

premaca said:
If you have *redlens* defy you can flash Quarx CM72 builds with walter kernel. The 4.5.3-109 kernel gives good battery life which you can use with 0316 builds. FOr ealier releases this kernel will give bootloop (this issue Quarx fixed from 0316 onwards) so you flash 4.5.2.109-dht_22 kernel.
The build can get from http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/ you can install CM9 kernel for it boot. Later you can change the kernel for better battery life.
The walter kernels are attached down - which you can flash via CWM.
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Thanks！
I flashed the chinese bl=6 2.2sbf
then I can use the 4.5.3-109-11 kernel with cm7.
By the way which build is better between Quarx and Epsylon3 's.
Iam using Quarx 's 0314 now,it's great work.
And I was told that Epsylon will release the cm7 RC1 this week end.
which one would you preferred???

jekyllove said:
Thanks！
I flashed the chinese bl=6 2.2sbf
then I can use the 4.5.3-109-11 kernel with cm7.
By the way which build is better between Quarx and Epsylon3 's.
Iam using Quarx 's 0314 now,it's great work.
And I was told that Epsylon will release the cm7 RC1 this week end.
which one would you preferred???
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Well, quarx epsylon and maniac have different private builds.all of them have same base with little differences. You can use any of them, they will finalize and merge to stable when it's released.I use quarx cm72 defy + builds.
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premaca said:
Well, quarx epsylon and maniac have different private builds.all of them have same base with little differences. You can use any of them, they will finalize and merge to stable when it's released.I use quarx cm72 defy + builds.
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THANKS!!!!!!!!!

stuck on boot logo
premaca said:
If you have *redlens* defy you can flash Quarx CM72 builds with walter kernel. The 4.5.3-109 kernel gives good battery life which you can use with 0316 builds. FOr ealier releases this kernel will give bootloop (this issue Quarx fixed from 0316 onwards) so you flash 4.5.2.109-dht_22 kernel.
you can install CM9 kernel for it boot. Later you can change the kernel for better battery life.
The walter kernels are attached down - which you can flash via CWM.
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Hya, I know I am a n00b, but we all have to start . I must be doing something stoopid, as I am stuck at Motorola boot logo.
I have a defy red lenses (confirmed both visual and with log analyzer).
I have installed CM9 kernel, and I can boot latest defy+ quarx rom (30-30)no problem, but once I install 4.5.3 kernel, I am stuck at the big red M.
Also, when I boot CM9 signed kernel, returns 2.6.32.9...isn't this Froyo? Shouldn't be Gingerbread? I must be doing something obviously wrong, but I cannot find anything in the forums....

Which one is it cm9 build or cm72 build? I guess cm9 binaries not updated, anyway Try installing dht22 kernel, cm9 is GB kennel only don't get confused by looking at 2.6...
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premaca said:
Which one is it cm9 build or cm72 build? I guess cm9 binaries not updated, anyway Try installing dht22 kernel, cm9 is GB kennel only don't get confused by looking at 2.6...
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Sorry, gave for granted I was talking about CM9.
I attach screenshot of the about page with Rom, Android & Kernel detail...maybe I am searching for something that is not there (already there?), and I am already as high I can go? Thx for the help!

[Q] Can a Defy+ Custom ROM run on Defy ??

i was wondering if i could try the latest CM9-NIGHTLY-120411-Defy+.zip(DEFY+ zip) on Defy running 4.04 (1204006)??
is it safe... what files will i need to use??? do i hv to try to the different kernel.. till now i had been using CM7 kernel...for my defy.

coolatin said:
i was wondering if i could try the latest CM9-NIGHTLY-120411-Defy+.zip(DEFY+ zip) on Defy running 4.04 (1204006)??
is it safe... what files will i need to use??? do i hv to try to the different kernel.. till now i had been using CM7 kernel...for my defy.
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I am not sure, but previous versions by eppy, talking bout dec 2011 builds, were defy+ builds too and they worked on the normal defy. But I have forgotten, how or what was to do oO
I wouldn't try it, cause I am too afraid to do something wrong and brick. have you fully read through the CM9 thread? maybe there is kinda an answer.
Other possible problems, i thinnk can appeare are:
-Battery not loading, due to different battery properties
-Camera Problems
I would recommend, to wait these 2-3 days until a new defy build appears. This will be optimised for the "normal" defy.
I also heard people are experiencing problems with 1104 build...

You will have to flash the gingerbread kernel first (defy+ kernel) and afterwards you may have battery problems.

And if you have defy green lense your camera wont work.

labsin said:
You will have to flash the gingerbread kernel first (defy+ kernel) and afterwards you may have battery problems.
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Yup, as mentioned in this thread you can install in red lens defy after flashing the defy+/gb kernel but you also need a battery patch as the charge ratings are different for defy and defy+.
coolzarjun said:
Will it work for a red lens normal defy ??
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prasannavl said:
You may have to find the patch for battery first which works with DFP-231. Other than that, I don't think there should be any problem.
I only have a Defy Plus. So, can't test it.
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[Q] Defy+ CM7.2 on Defy stuck on boot

I'm on MS2Ginger 4.0 on red lens defy and was interested to move to CM7.2 with the same kernel. I came to know that Defy+ CM have gingerbread kernel. So I downloaded the Defy+ CM7.2 from http://www.defy-cm.net/defy_plus-cm7-nightly/ and tried with walter's kernel, but the phone got stuck on boot with the M logo. So I went back to ms2ginger. Today I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398031 which provides a CM7 kernel, but even after using it I got stuck on boot. Can someone recommend me how I can get the Defy+ cm7.2 on my defy. Thanks!

You can get cm72 from quarx builds which fixed this issue, there used to be a problem with 2ndint 2ndboot binary files which quarx fixed and probably eppy build is old and doesn't contain those changes.
Goto http://quarx2k.ru and navigate to cm72 and download and install. I have red lens defy on which i always prefer roms work with walters kernel 4.5.2.109_dht_22. If i remember correctly ihad run cm72 with your similar kernel
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premaca said:
You can get cm72 from quarx builds which fixed this issue, there used to be a problem with 2ndint 2ndboot binary files which quarx fixed and probably eppy build is old and doesn't contain those changes.
Goto http://quarx2k.ru and navigate to cm72 and download and install. I have red lens defy on which i always prefer roms work with walters kernel 4.5.2.109_dht_22. If i remember correctly ihad run cm72 with your similar kernel
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Great! Will give that a try... can you tell me how was the battery life with that rom and kernel combo?

Thanks bro! Got it working with Quarx build... now let's see if battery life is comparable to ms2ginger..

Battery Fix Red Lense cm7.2 defy+

can someone link me to a battery fix for the plus version of cm7.2 made by quarx? im currently using a red lense defy, and I CANT find the f*cking battery fix for red lense in cm7 really.. I only find for cm10 and cm9 battery fixes!

mariosanoguera said:
can someone link me to a battery fix for the plus version of cm7.2 made by quarx? im currently using a red lense defy, and I CANT find the f*cking battery fix for red lense in cm7 really.. I only find for cm10 and cm9 battery fixes!
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have you tried the cm9 and cm 10 ones? I think they should work...

B4ast1 said:
have you tried the cm9 and cm 10 ones? I think they should work...
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they released a new battery fix for cm10 because its located in another place or something?
I will try with cm9 battery fix since the cm10 doesnt work

mariosanoguera said:
I will try with cm9 battery fix since the cm10 doesnt work
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Did this work?
And if so could I please ask your opinion? I also have a red lens defy. I am on Epsylon3's froyo kernel and using Quarx's CM10. I want to go back to CM7.2 and want to use Quarx's nightly that has 720p recording. Do I need to flash a GB kernel and use the defy+ build for 720p to work, or can I stay on the froyo kernel and use the defy build? The reason I want to stay on froyo kernel is that I don't want the battery issues.

I tried a CM7 Defy+ build on my Defy Red Lens, used a battery fix I got from the ParanoidAndroid dev forum and it kinda worked. I say kinda cuz when I try to reboot it actually powers off and cannot get on til a battery pull, but everything else is OK

m0ndul said:
I tried a CM7 Defy+ build on my Defy Red Lens, used a battery fix I got from the ParanoidAndroid dev forum and it kinda worked. I say kinda cuz when I try to reboot it actually powers off and cannot get on til a battery pull, but everything else is OK
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Thanks did you have to flash a GB kernel, or did you stay on the froyo kernel?

I flashed the GB kernel, didn't tried the froyo kernel though, it normally bootloops with defy+ roms
Sent from My Moto Defy

I have a CM9 GB kernel on defy red lens, wanted to install CM7 Defy + as multiboot. But my Cm7 shows a '?' for the battery status icon. Tried Battery fix for 1500mah defy red lense also tried ICS red lense batt fix but no use.

Battery fix
This is battery fix for Defy+ (MB526)
Install via "flash .zip" in the recovery them restart your phone
If it don't work, it's that the kernel had changed so, re-install attached kernel also by "flash .zip" in recovery system, restart your phone and you will see the battery's percentage.

euros60 said:
This is battery fix for Defy+ (MB526)
Install via "flash .zip" in the recovery them restart your phone
If it don't work, it's that the kernel had changed so, re-install attached kernel also by "flash .zip" in recovery system, restart your phone and you will see the battery's percentage.
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Tried it but still no battery status. Maybe i have a froyo sbf flashed earlier and then I installed MIUI/WIUI n then installed the CM9 GB with GB kernel. Anyways dont want to do a fixed sbf +nandroid now and redo everything will try to get a CM10 Gb working.

SOLVED green lens with defy+ firmware camera not working

after a month of searching and flashing and reflashing still couldn't get my camera to work on my defy
i flashes a bl7 rom from defy+ and can't downgrade so i got stuck with a defy ( soc/green lens) with no camera working
thanks to quarx i got my camera back
it's simple flash the latest cm10 nightly from quarx link quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/ and you're done
hope it helps you guys
again thx quarx

Thankyou very much, I was looking for that since about 6 months, nothing helped, but this really works with my 'old' defy (green-lens-camera) and bl7.

you're welcome
milou1us said:
Thankyou very much, I was looking for that since about 6 months, nothing helped, but this really works with my 'old' defy (green-lens-camera) and bl7.
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you're welcome had the same problem as you can see but for a month
searched all forums and tried quarx rom... and i got very excited when i saw it worked and had to post it cause it's kind of a problem with moto not unlocking bootloaders

kmikze89 said:
after a month of searching and flashing and reflashing still couldn't get my camera to work on my defy
i flashes a bl7 rom from defy+ and can't downgrade so i got stuck with a defy ( soc/green lens) with no camera working
thanks to quarx i got my camera back
it's simple flash the latest cm10 nightly from quarx link quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/ and you're done
hope it helps you guys
again thx quarx
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hi,
i have the same problem:
accidentily flashed bl7 on my green lense defy (DFP-231).
now if i try to flash the lastest cm10 as advised, after reboot my defy gets stuck at the red m, right before the boot animation. i can enter the stock recovery, but it does not come as far as the blue led for custom recovery.
any ideas?

Need help !
kmikze89 said:
after a month of searching and flashing and reflashing still couldn't get my camera to work on my defy
i flashes a bl7 rom from defy+ and can't downgrade so i got stuck with a defy ( soc/green lens) with no camera working
thanks to quarx i got my camera back
it's simple flash the latest cm10 nightly from quarx link quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/ and you're done
hope it helps you guys
again thx quarx
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Bro.. I had the same problem (Defy green lens)and was able to fix it with 2nd boot quarx rom and the camera got fixed. Thanks to Quarx and this community ! I had battery drain issues on official GB ROM and my battery would hardly last for 4-5 hrs even when not in use and would be dead in a couple of hours of internet usage over GPRS and would drain close to 50% even on stand by & screen turned off.
Did u experience same issues ? if so, has this been solved after installing this new ROM ?
Did u flash 2.2 (froyo) kernel while installing the new ROM ? coz I'm afraid to do so.. as it might burn my device..

pgraf said:
hi,
i have the same problem:
accidentily flashed bl7 on my green lense defy (DFP-231).
now if i try to flash the lastest cm10 as advised, after reboot my defy gets stuck at the red m, right before the boot animation. i can enter the stock recovery, but it does not come as far as the blue led for custom recovery.
any ideas?
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is your phone rooted?
did you wipe data, cache, dalvik-cache and battery stats?
do you have custom recovery? cwm?
flah the rom from cutom recovery
p.s. after the firt boot on my defy it stayed around 10 mins on the m logo after that i rebooted it and it worked
hope i was helpfull

snandakishore said:
Bro.. I had the same problem (Defy green lens)and was able to fix it with 2nd boot quarx rom and the camera got fixed. Thanks to Quarx and this community ! I had battery drain issues on official GB ROM and my battery would hardly last for 4-5 hrs even when not in use and would be dead in a couple of hours of internet usage over GPRS and would drain close to 50% even on stand by & screen turned off.
Did u experience same issues ? if so, has this been solved after installing this new ROM ?
Did u flash 2.2 (froyo) kernel while installing the new ROM ? coz I'm afraid to do so.. as it might burn my device..
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not sure what you are aking but if you have bl7 on your green len dont flah any kernels except the one from quarx if you want the phone to enirely work
as for the drainage iue i ddint have before or after quarx cm10
i dont have my defy anymore
but with 1 hour of talking 2-3 of wifi and 1 of 3g it lasted 2 days
so maybe its just your battery
try to fully charge it
then go to cutom recovery -> advanced -> wipe battery stat
or fully charge it and use from playtore a battery calibration app
bet rgds

snandakishore said:
Bro.. I had the same problem (Defy green lens)and was able to fix it with 2nd boot quarx rom and the camera got fixed. Thanks to Quarx and this community ! I had battery drain issues on official GB ROM and my battery would hardly last for 4-5 hrs even when not in use and would be dead in a couple of hours of internet usage over GPRS and would drain close to 50% even on stand by & screen turned off.
Did u experience same issues ? if so, has this been solved after installing this new ROM ?
Did u flash 2.2 (froyo) kernel while installing the new ROM ? coz I'm afraid to do so.. as it might burn my device..
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sorry for the spelling i have some issues with my keyboard

kmikze89 said:
not sure what you are aking but if you have bl7 on your green len dont flah any kernels except the one from quarx if you want the phone to enirely work
as for the drainage iue i ddint have before or after quarx cm10
i dont have my defy anymore
but with 1 hour of talking 2-3 of wifi and 1 of 3g it lasted 2 days
so maybe its just your battery
try to fully charge it
then go to cutom recovery -> advanced -> wipe battery stat
or fully charge it and use from playtore a battery calibration app
bet rgds
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I mean, I have a Defy (Green lens) my phone was updated to Defy+ firmware(official 2.3.6 )by the service center and naturally that screwed up my battery and camera . So I guess I'm on BL7 ROM now. Camera came alive only after installing the CM10 Quarx ROM but the battery life doesn't seem to change much. I'm now on 17/11 ROM coz, heard that this ROM has battery battery backup, not sure how far will it help in my situation bcoz after the 2.3.6 firmware update by service center battery completely screwed up and used to last for half a day at most.
Plz let me know if there is a solution for the battery drain issue that I'm facing. May be a battery fix or something
Thanks and regards
Kishore

snandakishore said:
I mean, I have a Defy (Green lens) my phone was updated to Defy+ firmware(official 2.3.6 )by the service center and naturally that screwed up my battery and camera . So I guess I'm on BL7 ROM now. Camera came alive only after installing the CM10 Quarx ROM but the battery life doesn't seem to change much. I'm now on 17/11 ROM coz, heard that this ROM has battery battery backup, not sure how far will it help in my situation bcoz after the 2.3.6 firmware update by service center battery completely screwed up and used to last for half a day at most.
Plz let me know if there is a solution for the battery drain issue that I'm facing. May be a battery fix or something
Thanks and regards
Kishore
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never had the battery issue
are you sure your carrier updated your phone to defy+ firmware?
cause if so they should change it for you
do you have dfp 188 / dfp 231 / dfp 2311
check them somewhere in the about phone section from settings
if you have them youre surely on bl7
as for the battery dont know what to say
you can try to contact quarx for more details

kmikze89 said:
never had the battery issue
are you sure your carrier updated your phone to defy+ firmware?
cause if so they should change it for you
do you have dfp 188 / dfp 231 / dfp 2311
check them somewhere in the about phone section from settings
if you have them youre surely on bl7
as for the battery dont know what to say
you can try to contact quarx for more details
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Bro...
I'm not sure what you are referring to and was unable to find what you have mentioned, but I'm pretty sure that my phone was upgraded to official 2.3.6 ROM by the service center and those f**** will not change it for me. And I'm not sure if at all it would be possible to go back to froyo as it was upgraded to official GB ROM.
Is there a way out ... any ideas
Regards
Kishore

snandakishore said:
Bro...
I'm not sure what you are referring to and was unable to find what you have mentioned, but I'm pretty sure that my phone was upgraded to official 2.3.6 ROM by the service center and those f**** will not change it for me. And I'm not sure if at all it would be possible to go back to froyo as it was upgraded to official GB ROM.
Is there a way out ... any ideas
Regards
Kishore
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if its defy+ rom you should see mb526 at your model number you cannot downgrade it
not untill the bootloader is unlocked and there are minimal chances
the only way is to stay on quarx's cm10
as for the battery drainage problem try to calibrate it

solved battery drain !!!
snandakishore said:
Bro.. I had the same problem (Defy green lens)and was able to fix it with 2nd boot quarx rom and the camera got fixed. Thanks to Quarx and this community ! I had battery drain issues on official GB ROM and my battery would hardly last for 4-5 hrs even when not in use and would be dead in a couple of hours of internet usage over GPRS and would drain close to 50% even on stand by & screen turned off.
Did u experience same issues ? if so, has this been solved after installing this new ROM ?
Did u flash 2.2 (froyo) kernel while installing the new ROM ? coz I'm afraid to do so.. as it might burn my device..
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just make a new google account and use only the new account.
i had the this problem and now the phone is working fine.
Cristi Bazavan -Defy 525 with full 526-2.3.6 bl7-NOW cm10-2nd init-green lens

Need a Stable 2nd Boot Quarx ROM or any other compatible ROM
cri1410sti said:
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just make a new google account and use only the new account.
i had the this problem and now the phone is working fine.
Cristi Bazavan -Defy 525 with full 526-2.3.6 bl7-NOW cm10-2nd init-green lens
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Hi Brother, It's been a loong time now.. but if you are still active here, could you please help me out with a stable 2nd boot Quarx ROM or any other stable 2nd boot ROM that works for me? As I'm still running on Nightlies (Sept 30th) and development on this is going painfully slow...: well can't complain though.. I just need something more stable.. the nightlies have some lag and the devices seems to be too slow even when not using data. I just want to put a stable OS on this and keep this aside.
Thanks for all the help from this community.. Really greatfull