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Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
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I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
Negativity in 3.....2......1............
FoxRacR17 said:
I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
Top Nurse said:
This belongs in the rumour thread...
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Its official. They will begin with the European phones at mid month (arent we there already?) and then move on to the American phones. I'm guessing we'll see a leak in about a month.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/
Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.
Longcat14 said:
Samsung has said that they'd step up their game with it comes to updates, and T-Mobile said they'd help push out updates faster.
I honestly think we may have a official release by the end of the month to early june.
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Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.
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Thats a lil hopeful imo, i dont expect anything until july/august at the earliest as far as a full build is concerned.
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Well, I really can be hopeful, since I'll also have the NS4G (getting it today), if they don't release it, I'll just play around with GB on the NS4G, and when the Vibrant gets GB, I'll have 2 amazing phones (not like the Vibrant isn't amazing now, but just not taking full advantage of it's hardware).
This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.
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This is great news! Hopefully they do step up their software updates and push it out or leak it faster than we expect.
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Hell, I'd rather take a leak, so that our amazing dev's can create working ROM's out of them.
Yeah a leak would come in handy. We'd get new roms and maybe some stuff fixed in CM7/MIUI. The Epic 4G had a leak not too long ago and i think there looking at another leak that one of the dev groups has. The ones that got us our leaks here in the vibrant section were Eugene373 and Krylon360, and their both gone. =(
Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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Good news indeed... Lets just hope a leak comes early.
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*cough* leak tomorrow *cough*
I hope someone from Samsung reads this message.
Will it come to galaxy sl as well??
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thats the best news ive heard all week!!! ty so much!!!!!!! And i thought i would never see gb on this phone..
All I want is a leak so devs can make a GB rom with great battery life and stability.
Yay! can't wait to get GB
Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!
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Guys, once we get this... think about it..
CM7 will be officially done.
Miui will be officially done.
MANY new stable roms.
Vibrant section will be back up to trolling again!
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Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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GPS will probably never work for EVERYONE on the Vibrant... so might as well let it go and wait for some dev to make a mod that makes it work like Heathen's GPS fixes.
I was saying that GB would open completely new doors.
GB could help complete MIUI and CM7, as they are all Gingerbread based.
Even if it is AOSP, they have to use the things that Samsung gives.
geoffcorey said:
Binary roms will not help CM7 and miui roms with GPS because of the way Samsung calls on the GPS as compared to the way aosp calls on the GPS. This has been stated many times over, and yet still gets swept under the rug.
Even after the *kernel* source is released, it still contains nothing about GPS source.
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Very sad to read this. I was also under the impression that we'd likely have an official and fully functional Cyanogenmod build.
Oh well. Stock GB will be awesome enough if they release it.
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This GPS issue is really unfortunate. We should just have Samsung open source it..
Let's sit back and enjoy the news about Kies-bricked phones (again).
Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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As far as i know, CM team is trying to make a CM port to our phone. But as you may know, the hardware in our phone is different than the versions they have now for other phones (for example, the fingerprint scanner). They doesnt have any 2.3.4 motorola source code to have as a base neither....
They will never come
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Why don't u think they'll come curious to hear ur opinion
lesonal said:
They will never come
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Why do you think so?
spx2000 said:
Thanks for all the devs helping us with all the 2.3.4 rom based off the official rom. It runs well. However, I am waiting for to dev who can either bring cm7 or mini to our rom. Right now, there is just too much moto blur bloat on the official rom.
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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Learn to read, no one asked where it was OP simply stated that they are waiting for it as opposed to just messing with the current roms
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Huh. Go on then, take the source and start-a-porting. How about this: don't ever expect anything to come. There is a chance it will never come, although sense the CM team is working on it I suspect it will arrive some day. Their one rule is to not ask for etas, so please stop asking where cm7 is.
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I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
Well said
Incognitum said:
I totally agree we shouldn't take the devs for granted (especially those of us just savvy enough to use the roms, but not enough to help make 'em at all).
However, last year Android was at like 16% market share, and CM could support basically every unlocked phone all the way back to the G1. This year Android market share is at almost 40% with phone dropping at an accelerating rate. I'm sure it helps them decide which phones to support to know where there is interest.
I hope it doesn't hurt anyone at CM's feelings for me to say that I love CM, and have missed it ever since I left my G1 for the Atrix, and I too will be holding off on flashing roms for now in hopes that CM will add us to the supported device list.
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Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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Anthonok said:
Where can we get atleast 100% confirmation that cm7 is in fact being worked on. No he said she said stuff. Let's see an actual post from one of the devs please. I think that would make people feel A LOT better
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I would like to see this too, assuming such confirmation even exists...I've been watching aliasxerog's twitter periodically, as it seemed he and a team of a few other guys were given the unlocked Atrix to work on? As recently as like last week or something, he had made comments about working on a kernel.
However recently it seems he has been looking for a DX2...nothing like ditching work on one phone partway through! Hopefully this isn't really the case lol, and he is still at work on CM7 or something!
if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
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if you search for CM7 on the Atrix foruns you'll see a post with status updates on the port. No "he said she said".
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Got a link to that post??
i definite don't take devs for granted. While I don't have the the technical chops to port myself, I donated to several projects .
While the current official rom works very well, I believe atrix can be even better without all the extra bloat . I think we have good chance to see miui official support for our phone because the phone is being heavily advertised by the china cellular providers.
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Come on guys, if you don't pro-actively "wait for it", things will be much easier for you
It will take time for the first build to emerge, and even more times before all the bugs get fixed. Just subscribe to aliaxesrog twitter and wait for your day.
To be clear, you don't have to be a existing CM7 Dev to start print CM7, it's open source.
When a developer gets a port working for a specific device, if they can merge the unique code for that device back into CM7 mainline, it becomes an officially supported device and that developer becomes a recognized maintainer.
We have a few people working on CM7, AliasXerog, SamCripp and I'm reaching out to others, but as no Moto devices have been as unlocked as the Atrix since the OG Droid people are starting from scratch.
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Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
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Rewards (READ: BIG QTD OF DOLLARS) was offered and NO CM team said anything about ETA or if its being worked on, so i gona hate cm team and i think they will not support our phone, sad but true.
I really want to donate, and i didn't have more a atrix (mine got dropped on toilet), but just when community got somethig good and working.
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When it gets ported, they will presumably start supporting. Have faith!
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The Cyanogen devs have said, repeatedly, that what devices they develop CyanogenMod for is dependent on what devices they personally have or have access to. That being said, there is a thread on the Unofficial Ports section of their forum, but it's almost exclusively repetitions of "the bootloader is unlocked, can we get a port now please?"
For the more impatient members of the angry mob, it's worth remembering that the bootloader hasn't been unlocked for all that long.
Guys read this
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/14006-motorola-atrix-4g/
Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4/4.0)?
What do you think?
highly doubt it
mrmako777 said:
highly doubt it
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Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717
ICS is supposed to be a type of "universal" update that brings all devices under one platform to unify android instead of being fragmented the way it is. I was doubtful that the sgs4g would get it but after reading up on it it does appear hopeful that devices like ours will get the update as well.
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Who knows....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072717
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wow, this is good news!
HTC HD2 MAN said:
Will the mytouch 4g (mt4g) be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (2.4)?
What do you think?
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Where did you see that at? Most of the stuff I saw an read on : Android police an central along with phandroid, suspect 2.4 . I'm just curious on where you found it.
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It's not 2.4 it is 4.0.
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Well... at the moment... no one knows if it is 2.4 or 4.0.
So thanks for pointing that out. I cant fix the poll title so bare with me.
Officially? I'm almost certain that's a no. Took them 6 months to give us GB and this phone is about to hit it's end of life cycle.
But unofficially, most certainly. Kmobs and Zinx have this phone, the two prominent devs in the CM team. So I'm highly confident that through them, we'll be amongst the first batch of phones to get ICS via CM8.
Just my thought.
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I agree we will get it via cm8 not officially though
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Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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Tmobile, from what I remember is part of the Android alliance. They promise upgrades, when a new Android OS comes out, it'll only end when the phone is 18 months old. I doing we'll see it right away, but i'm pretty sure we will officially see it at some point.
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Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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Not sure about that because to me, T-Mobile has the worst track record of phones getting updates.
The myTouch Slide 3G was promised Froyo last summer but didn't get it till earlier this year. And you can pretty much throw GB out of the equation for that phone.
The Vibrant has yet to even have a GB leak while the Vibrant 4G gets GB leaks every month or so. Which is sad.
The G2 was supposed to get GB very early but are now just getting it. And its life cycle already ended a month or two ago so that getting ICS is doubtful.
And that's just to name a few.
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I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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I'm not gonna lie, but you are correct about all of that. I'm willing to give them another shot, them ima go to sprint. I do like t-mo,I had a good plan with them, they made me change plans, when I added a new line, also I just got throttled. If they can update this phone to ICS, I'll stay if not, i'm gone.
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I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.
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I hear ya, I love TMO as well and I would love to be wrong to be honest. But looking back at how the Evo, and even the freakin year and a half old Droid INC got GB it made me think how terrible TMO is compared to the other carriers.
I would probably switch to Sprint as well if anything, I just wish their 3G was good.
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You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so or they'll release a new version of the phone that is updated, an scrap the older ones. The only reason why i'm still with then is,i have good connection at home an in my area, an I don't want to spend the extra money for a etf.
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You would think the company that first introduced Android to the world, would set an example for everyone else on how to update your Android's in a timely manner. Instead they are usually the last ones to do so
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From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.
FWIW... We switched to sprint. Hated sprint cdma. And t mobile is hardly the worst track record, all the carriers have been about the same. I think verizon and the droid line up is your"worst"...
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From what I was told (by a German TMO sales rep), they have a fairly long internal QA process to make sure that a new ROM works (together with any of their own additions). So it usually takes them more than six months after a new ROM has been released, before it is officially available from them. This is not only true for Android, but is also valid for Blackberry and WP7.
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I can understand a 6month time frame to get everything working. I had the mytouch 3g slide, an that took a year an a month(not sure, maybe 2) to get upgraded to 2.2, they didn't even do an ota. It was either do it yourself via HTC or go to a store an get it done. I think that's pretty bad though, it took them that long.
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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Yeah... I don't see why they need at least 6 months. I mean it took CM's team like a little over a month after GB's source was released to get it to multiple different phones. Plus CM implemented their CM Settings as well.
I'm not saying it's a wrong statement, just wondering how a group of mostly college kids can beat big companies to it.
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Big companies = a lot of political bull****. They do what they can to make more money for themselves about 50% of the time.
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Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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Gavisann said:
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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*won't
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I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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Cm7 does not have any TW.
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rootxda said:
Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
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Try for a moment to step outside your world and look at things from the other 99% of Epic users; the ones that AREN'T on XDA and spend most of their day doing things other than flashing their phones. Even assuming that ICS works smoothly on the Epic, replacing the current GB rom with a bare stripped ICS rom would look like a downgrade to them with all the Touchwiz functions missing. Maybe some people would like that, but I think it would be a marketing mess to try and explain why they are taking away features with an update.
For those of us who are geeky enough to want a plain ICS rom, stand by for CM9, that will be here much sooner than we would get an official ICS update.
And if I see one more new thread about whether or not we get some stupid upgrade a year from now I am going to throw up all over XDA! Please put all rants in an existing ICS rant and complaints!
Cheer up !
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why worry about phone updates that much ....
You have to understand that Samsung is just lazy about the Epic. We are just recently getting a final Gingerbread build in November and it STILL has memory leaks. They would like Sprint to discontinue them.
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And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?!
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2.2 is working well, but the CM alpha version of 2.3 that was put out for the Moment, ran like crap, and was pretty much dropped as the devs moved on. I HIGHLY doubt that any version of ICS will run on the Samsung Moment in a decent manner
Not that I dont wish it would, just having modded the Samsung Moment for a couple years now, IMO it just doenst have enough internal space or processing power for a full blown ICS build.
Now the Epic has enough of both, if the partitions are resized, but I highly doubt that Samsung will take that route.
IMO, the only way the Epic will see ICS is with CM9. Thankfully, I feel there is a very good chance CM9 will be developed and released at some point by the CM development team
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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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OK there is some confusion here...
1. He was wrong with "can't," Samsung could remove touchwiz entirely from our phone, and put AOSP Ics, with our hardware drivers that they have access too. HTC has already done this by removing sense from a phone, so it could get gingerbread.
2. As long as there is a tutorial, any user can get used to a new ui.
3. Our phone(nor any gs phone) does not need any touchwiz at all in CM. We have to use some Samsung proprietary files, cause we cant change them.
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Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
adelmundo said:
Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
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Yes but its not worth the time and money for them to do that. Especially when CM9 does it for free. In my opinion, the smartest thing for them to do would be to supply the Samsung CM maintainers with the necessary drivers and sources to easily get CM9 running perfectly. Doesnt cost any money or much time and at the end of the day, the people who care are happy.
masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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So, every Epic owner who doesn't use XDA also can't handle the transition to a new UI? Not one of those several hundred users has ever had a previous phone, especially not one made by HTC or any of the several other android phone manufacturers, or a Blackberry or iPhone? If that's the case, how did I miss the rioting when Sprint released the first update to Froyo? Or GB? (The UI changed with both of those upgrades, remember?)
rootxda said:
And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!!
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Overpopulation must have really gotten out of control without my noticing - the last time I checked, this entire planet has a finite (in other words, limited) population...
I personally don't have a Moment, so the absolute maximum number of people (the limit, if you will) is already guaranteed to be [world population - 1] at the most (assuming every man, woman and child has a Moment except me)
So, what was that about stupidity?
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im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
austin420 said:
im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
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That would directly contradict the point he tried to make by using that statement - that development is still rolling on the Moment. If there were limited users in this case (since we know that there is always a limit to the number, actually stating it implies a very limited number), then that would be an argument in favor of slowing or halting development on that device due to a dwindling user base
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It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
I'm not sure though. The op need some grammer training and a better spellchecker.
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interesting ...
austin420 said:
It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
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Nicely reworded.
That said, anyone know of a link to any sort of ICS and/or CM9 in any state for the Moment?