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New 7.7 with burn in circles

I just got the 7.7 today, and in the evening on lowest brigtness I noticed this! I googled, and this seems to be common, should I still try to bring it to a repair center? Or is this "OK" for the samoled panels?
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How to test your tab.
1. Go in to a pitch black room.
2. Set brightness to the lowest value.
3. Google black images, and scroll trough them.
You should see 6 medium circles, 2 small and hundreds of black dots.

yeah i have it too, but doesnt bother me as i rarely am on fully black apps/pages

There's already a long thread about that issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463622

I don't have this problem. LIKE at ALL. My screen is pitch black with no deviation....not even a HINT of backlight.
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aletheus said:
I don't have this problem. LIKE at ALL. My screen is pitch black with no deviation....not even a HINT of backlight.
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Not a hint of backlight?
That might be because of the 7.7 doesn't have any backlighting...
My screen is absolutely fine, too. For 3 months now.

Yeah I have the same thing on mine and had it on my Note as well. Never really bothered me.

Using the 7.7 in a totally black room with brightness at minimum and viewing totally black web pages is a ridiculous situation which says nothing about the 7.7 in every day use.

Gaugerer said:
Using the 7.7 in a totally black room with brightness at minimum and viewing totally black web pages is a ridiculous situation which says nothing about the 7.7 in every day use.
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Well I play games before I go to sleep, ant the bright light hurts my eyes. For example Osmos, you can clearly see those rings and dots.

Gaugerer said:
Using the 7.7 in a totally black room with brightness at minimum and viewing totally black web pages is a ridiculous situation which says nothing about the 7.7 in every day use.
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It's easily visible - and really annoying - while watching videos at night... which is a very everyday-use situation for me.
Moderators, could this redundant thread be merged with the other ongoing one?

mine doesn't have these kind of circles but got lots of tiny scratches i wonder if its really a gorilla screen or cheap plastic screen

Gaugerer said:
Using the 7.7 in a totally black room with brightness at minimum and viewing totally black web pages is a ridiculous situation which says nothing about the 7.7 in every day use.
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Unless you're an artist who likes to paint on black backgrounds.... <----!
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FYI Purchased a display model (ie last one, used by lots of customers for demo) Galaxy Tab 7.7 P6810 Wifi-Only in Australia (JB Hi-Fi) on 8.Jun.2012: no burn in circles or screen defects at all. I get beautiful even smooth black screen in darkness with lowest brightness setting.

aletheus said:
Unless you're an artist who likes to paint on black backgrounds.... <----!
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But not in a totally dark room for the canvas and paints would be impossible to see.

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But not in a totally dark room for the canvas and paints would be impossible to see.
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aletheus said:
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Is this picture take with low brightness ? and u must take pic with another device dude

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Is this picture take with low brightness ? and u must take pic with another device dude
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DUH, and I took the screen capture just to show you the app features in screen. I'm not an idiot, don't treat me like one.
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aletheus said:
DUH, and I took the screen capture just to show you the app features in screen. I'm not an idiot, don't treat me like one.
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oH god , im really sorry dude

i've got one too on my 7.7...i think its common problem with SAmoled?
its called Newton Ring right?
CMIIW

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How about a screen shot of a totally black web page in a totally black room?

After some more reading, I decided to keep my "faulty" tab. This is not a big deal after all. Plus there is this problem on S II, and one is complaining. I agree that it is bad that there is this problem, but now I think its minor, and the samoled panel is still gorgeous 90% of the time I use it.

[POOL] Does your Nexus 7 have defects?

Does your Nexus 7 have defects?
Also post where did you buy your Nexus 7 from.
Mine is coming soon and I will tell.

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Does your Nexus 7 have defects?
Also post where did you buy your Nexus 7 from.
Mine is coming soon and I will tell.
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Mine came perfect.

The left side of my screen near the center makes a strange noise when I press down on it, almost like adhesive lifting.

This thread title has defects
No I'm sorry. I don't believe I have any dead pixels. Mind you, I didn't search for long. What freaked me out however was that I never got the USB drivers from the SDK. I'm good now though, rooted and runnin'.

100% ok here sexy n sleek
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The few bits of information about people having screens coming loose has me all paranoid. Mine makes a slight noise if the push on the lower right side of the device. But close examination makes it appear not to be the screen but the rear cover has a tiny bit of play (assume it is a slightly less than ideal retainer clip). I don't expect it to be an issue but if it does turn into one but the time I probably need to RMA it they should be further into the production cycle and hopefully past small issue like that.

There's already a thread like this
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I'm not sure I would call one dead pixel "very minor". Could absolutely ruin things depending on where it is.

C6 from Gamestop with no issues so far.

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I'm not sure I would call one dead pixel "very minor". Could absolutely ruin things depending on where it is.
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Yeah. I Agree with you here.

so 25% of users are reporting defects? damn.

Uh where do you get 25%?? More like 5-8%
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Uh where do you get 25%?? More like 5-8%
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add it up... about 25%... lf course the numbers aren't that great lol.

Keep in mind, I am simultaneously knocking on a huge piece of wood as I type this, but my Nexus that I purchase at Gamestop is brilliant. No issues at all to speak of. Hope it stays that way and that all of you who got defective units get them replaced soon. Cheers.

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Keep in mind, I am simultaneously knocking on a huge piece of wood as I type this
Cheers.
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TMI

This is what I'm afraid of ... had the first transformer and that device was just rubbish .
What makes me thinking is that all the issues I had on transformer are showing up with nexus .
1. Loose screen (in transformer at first no problem after a week I could feel it being loose when grabbed . After 3 weeks screen collapsed and from the top of the edge to the screen surface there was like 2-3mm difference
2. Light bleeds ... had it all over the screen. That was an IPS screen.
3. Screen not stuck properly top right corner . When looked at the screen under about 160 degrees (pretty much looking at the screen when its flat) the actual screen was off by 3-4 mm from the main glass and could see the light coming through
4. Dead pixel. One but that's it .
And that was just one single device ... makes me wonder how Asus build this one when I read all the comments
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Wha? Where did u even get those calculations???
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My left side was dodgy - but easily clicked back into place. Now it's perfect

exzacklyright said:
add it up... about 25%... lf course the numbers aren't that great lol.
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Damn right I would say 25%. I got the rising screen on the left. Read in another thread if u apply enough force it should click and stay down... pooooooooor quality control to be honest.
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MattSkeet said:
This is what I'm afraid of ... had the first transformer and that device was just rubbish .
What makes me thinking is that all the issues I had on transformer are showing up with nexus .
1. Loose screen (in transformer at first no problem after a week I could feel it being loose when grabbed . After 3 weeks screen collapsed and from the top of the edge to the screen surface there was like 2-3mm difference
2. Light bleeds ... had it all over the screen. That was an IPS screen.
3. Screen not stuck properly top right corner . When looked at the screen under about 160 degrees (pretty much looking at the screen when its flat) the actual screen was off by 3-4 mm from the main glass and could see the light coming through
4. Dead pixel. One but that's it .
And that was just one single device ... makes me wonder how Asus build this one when I read all the comments
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Yep sorry to confirm, but I have the "loose screen issue" with my Nexus 7.
It's a device from Google I/O, so it could be that this this batch was put together in a hurry, and that caused the defect, but it's still a bummer, that it's not even a month old, and this happens. There's no way of returning it, because I'm in the EU...
Oh yeah, it's one of the few ones with a white back. The white is rubbing off where it sits on the table and where you hold it with your hand. The base black is slowly emerging.
I hope the ones people actually buy will be better manufactured...

anyone else see grid of silver dots in sunlight?

Hey everyone,
My nexus 4 screen shows a perfect grid of silver dots when I am in sunlight. It seems to happen at certain angle. Is anyone else experiencing this? Thanks

It's normal, it's just the touch screen digitiser - same with my One X

Thanks for the quick reply! Good to hear there isn't a problem.

Yeah that's just the digitizer. It has something to do with LG moving the screen closer to the glass so the digitizer is more visible than past phones

The only thing that sucks about that is if the screen breaks so does the digitizer
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What about when the screen is off? mine has grid of dots on the screen is off and i can see it also when it is on. thought first it is a stain under the screen protector but it is not.

Thats LCD IPS for ya

I just went to a Telus store to get a new micro SIM, and looked at the screens of the HTC One X+, Galaxy S3 and Note2, couldn't see this grid pattern on any of them. I don't see it on mine if I'm in a room with no sunlight, but soon as there is sunlight its very noticeable. Walking outside soon as I take my phone out its all I can see. I'm worried I have something wrong or defective.
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Canadaka said:
I just went to a Telus store to get a new micro SIM, and looked at the screens of the HTC One X+, Galaxy S3 and Note2, couldn't see this grid pattern on any of them. I don't see it on mine if I'm in a room with no sunlight, but soon as there is sunlight its very noticeable. Walking outside soon as I take my phone out its all I can see. I'm worried I have something wrong or defective.
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Nope, that's completely normal. Don't worry

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Nope, that's completely normal. Don't worry
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If that is normal take a photo of your phone with the same thing. I have not found any hi-res images of the Nexus 4 with this sort of pronounced visible grid pattern.
I contacted Google Play support via chat and they said it's not normal and I should RMA. But I'm still not 100% confident Its a defect and my replacement won't just be the same.

that is normal, there is actually two patterns, the silver dots and one with rectangle boxs like lol, not sure how to describe it. your phone is fine.

Its normal. I had the HTC inspire 4g, and the lg optimus g and they had the same thing.
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Then why does no other phone have this visible? I compared it side by side with a HTC One X+, Galaxy S3, Note2 and none of them had any visible grid of tiny rectangles.
None of the photos I've seen of the Nexus 4 screen have any of this visible. Its not just with sunlight, any light makes it visible, almost has a textured look.
If this is normal then I'm really disappointed in this phone, seems like a glaring difference between the it and the other popular phones, that's why i think its not normal, i never saw any reviews mention anything like this.
If i take a photo of my phone at either of these angles I could clearly see the grid, but these 2 random photos show nothing
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ssMeP0mCv...600/Google+Nexus+4+Wallet+Case+Review+(1).jpg
http://bestboyz.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Photos-Google-Nexus-4-4.jpg
I can sometimes in the correct light and angle see the shinny silver dots, this is no what i'm talking about and not what my photo clearly shows.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eA4J8jHPBw0/UQhCP9-jZnI/AAAAAAABczQ/etrGO4JDT-c/s845/DSCN0964.JPG
The pattern is a grid of rectangles in this type of shape (excluding dots)
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Why in the world does it matter if you can't see them when the screen is on? The Samsung screens are a completely different types of screens.
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Canadaka said:
If that is normal take a photo of your phone with the same thing. I have not found any hi-res images of the Nexus 4 with this sort of pronounced visible grid pattern.
I contacted Google Play support via chat and they said it's not normal and I should RMA. But I'm still not 100% confident Its a defect and my replacement won't just be the same.
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Its NORMAL.
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El Daddy said:
Its NORMAL.
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As usual, customer support is useless.

Normal due to NO gap in between digitizer and glass paneling. LG did this intentionally and is why you can see it. Other manufacturers DONT do it due to being able to see digitizer. LG did it intentionally and it is normal.
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Also the reaspning behind WHY digitizer is useless after glass paneling breaking versus SIIIs paneling and others still being functional. Because the glass paneling doesn't automatically break digitizer when breaking because of the gap.
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lyall29 said:
Why in the world does it matter if you can't see them when the screen is on? The Samsung screens are a completely different types of screens.
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I said I can see it when the screen is on, even with a tilt as little as 5 degrees. My friend who also has a Nexus 4 says his is not that noticeable and can only see it with a much greater tilt degree.
If this is normal why did the Google tech support say its not normal and told me to warranty my phone? But I know the tech support is probably not great and they might just say that to anything. But I sent them the photo of my screen and that's what they said.
So I really don't know what to think, people in this thread say its normal, but Google support says its not...
I really don't want to go through the hassle of sending in my phone for warranty if I just get back a phone with the same quirk.
As I posted before, why don't some others post some angled photos of there screens in daylight.

Who knows why they say that. If you believe them then go to town and quit asking us why. Believe them and get a replacement with the same thing lol. People ask questions on here and then get an answer and don't believe anything they get as a response haha
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Canadaka said:
I said I can see it when the screen is on, even with a tilt as little as 5 degrees. My friend who also has a Nexus 4 says his is not that noticeable and can only see it with a much greater tilt degree.
If this is normal why did the Google tech support say its not normal and told me to warranty my phone? But I know the tech support is probably not great and they might just say that to anything. But I sent them the photo of my screen and that's what they said.
So I really don't know what to think, people in this thread say its normal, but Google support says its not...
I really don't want to go through the hassle of sending in my phone for warranty if I just get back a phone with the same quirk.
As I posted before, why don't some others post some angled photos of there screens in daylight.
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You must have some kind of bionic vision. You aren't related to the six million dollar man are you?
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LG G2 major grips

For me, major grips are:
Stock browser without text reflow or text wrap (replaced with baidu browser, only problem is it redirects me to youtube mobile instead of youtube app)
Bad autofocus in camera (blurry photos) (still waitinf for development fix)
Pressure gap in battery cover (fixed).
Don´t remember anything else...

Yeah, I thought the camera would be much better than it really is... It's not that bad after the modded camera installation, but still there's room for improvement.
Another issue is with the flaky auto-brightness algorithm, to bad to be usable.
But the most important flaw for me is the lack of memory expansion!
But all in all, this is the best smartphone I've used so far. Much MUCH better than any Samsung out there.

I find the phone to have very little grip. It's always slipping out of my hand.
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D-meist said:
I find the phone to have very little grip. It's always slipping out of my hand.
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You have a gripe about the grip. LOL.
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Love the device so far and its my first LG device.
Dont like:
Not being able to have transparent nav bar with live wallpapers and in apps.
Front LED does not work for sms or email which is all i use it for.
Granted the second one might just be me not knowing how to enable but ive tried everything Including xposed and apps.
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I use Light Flow Lite with no problems on assigning different colors for different kinds if notifications. No root needed. You should try it.
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macuser said:
For me, major grips are:
Stock browser without text reflow or text wrap (replaced with baidu browser, only problem is it redirects me to youtube mobile instead of youtube app)
Bad autofocus in camera (blurry photos) (still waitinf for development fix)
Pressure gap in battery cover (fixed).
Don´t remember anything else...
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how did you fix the pressure gap?

grippy gripes
i agree why do they make these little costly monsters so slippery
my note 2 was like an eel
i put a nilken semi phone case ( textured back) on mine as soon as i got it
makes the phone a little bigger but better than picking it up off the floor ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBrXRs9j5jY
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force70 said:
Love the device so far and its my first LG device.
Dont like:
Not being able to have transparent nav bar with live wallpapers and in apps.
Front LED does not work for sms or email which is all i use it for.
Granted the second one might just be me not knowing how to enable but ive tried everything Including xposed and apps.
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You can assign any color to your contacts by editing the contact and selecting the color from the list.
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You can assign any color to your contacts by editing the contact and selecting the color from the list.
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Nice I didnt even know this. Very good to know sir.

force70 said:
Love the device so far and its my first LG device.
Dont like:
Not being able to have transparent nav bar with live wallpapers and in apps.
Front LED does not work for sms or email which is all i use it for.
Granted the second one might just be me not knowing how to enable but ive tried everything Including xposed and apps.
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Mine works so but im rooted so maybe that plays a part
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Mine works so but im rooted so maybe that plays a part
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I am rooted also...what works for you though? I got the LEDs to work with light flow just had to factory reset and not let google auto load all my apps.
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I am rooted also...what works for you though? I got the LEDs to work with light flow just had to factory reset and not let google auto load all my apps.
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It just works regularly. Green for emails, blue for texts, red for charging and orange for voicecalls
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Nexus impressions

So far loving this thing. Really fast compared to my g3. The screen is definitely different, dimmer or just more subdued. The build IMO is very nice. Doesn't feel near as big or heavy as I thought it was going to.
Couple things I have noticed so far r that the keyboard theams r not all there. The halo blue and white I think r just the same black keyboard. Also there is no face recognition for the lock screen. There is Jo option for it at all. I know I saw a video review stating that it worked in the background of the lock screen.
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litrekid said:
So far loving this thing. Really fast compared to my g3. The screen is definitely different, dimmer or just more subdued. The build IMO is very nice. Doesn't feel near as big or heavy as I thought it was going to.
Couple things I have noticed so far r that the keyboard theams r not all there. The halo blue and white I think r just the same black keyboard. Also there is no face recognition for the lock screen. There is Jo option for it at all. I know I saw a video review stating that it worked in the background of the lock screen.
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I believe you have to first enable a pin or password security in order to have the face unlock option available. That was the case on my Nexus 7.

on my nexus 5 its under security..... smart lock....then "trusted face"
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litrekid said:
So far loving this thing. Really fast compared to my g3. The screen is definitely different, dimmer or just more subdued. The build IMO is very nice. Doesn't feel near as big or heavy as I thought it was going to.
Couple things I have noticed so far r that the keyboard theams r not all there. The halo blue and white I think r just the same black keyboard. Also there is no face recognition for the lock screen. There is Jo option for it at all. I know I saw a video review stating that it worked in the background of the lock screen.
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It has face unlock mine works fine. It does work in the background, watch the small icon in center at the bottom when you go to unlock it. You have to choose something other than "swipe" for "smartlock" to appear (or not greyed out)
The keyboard themes are all there for me just tried to make sure. They don't change till you back out of the settings so maybe that is what you are seeing?

Well u all r right. Got the face unlock to work and it is very unobtrusive. I like that a lot. As for the keyboard I didn't notice the actual letters and numbers changed color while the overall theme stayed the same. Always a lot to learn with a new OS. Thanks for the help guys
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litrekid said:
Well u all r right. Got the face unlock to work and it is very unobtrusive. I like that a lot. As for the keyboard I didn't notice the actual letters and numbers changed color while the overall theme stayed the same. Always a lot to learn with a new OS. Thanks for the help guys
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Glad we could help and enjoy learning about 5.0 that is the fun part!

It looks dimmer because it is a warmer screen and more color accurate. GS3 (and most other phones not just AMOLED) have their calibration cooler to make the screen look more vibrant, and the GS3 has bigger blue pixels which also makes the screen bluer. Samsung also oversaturates far more and the touchwiz UI and wallpapers are naturally very contrasty. All reasons for the Nexus 6 screen to look dimmer. I believe the brightness is about the same as a GS3 if you actually measured them.

katamari201 said:
It looks dimmer because it is a warmer screen and more color accurate. GS3 (and most other phones not just AMOLED) have their calibration cooler to make the screen look more vibrant, and the GS3 has bigger blue pixels which also makes the screen bluer. Samsung also oversaturates far more and the touchwiz UI and wallpapers are naturally very contrasty. All reasons for the Nexus 6 screen to look dimmer. I believe the brightness is about the same as a GS3 if you actually measured them.
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U r definitely right there. The g3 was just made to pop I think. Much like the Samsung's. Its definitely not a complaint,it just isn't what I'm used to. After figuring out the first two problems I really can't find a complaint. Other then I'm missing my ir blaster. Guess I will HAVE to find that missing remote now.
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