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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
I wonder pow much they'll rape yu for data charges.
I used to live in Vancouver, and know what a rip-off data charges are up there.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/21/c6305.html
http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/10/16/one-things-for-certain-about-the-g-phone/
** this says that rogers has the 1700/2100 AWS spectrum in Canada. Presumably, the Dream and Sapphire (there is no such thing as a "G1" -- this is a TMOBILE-ONLY rebranding of the Dream) launch will coincide with the enablement of this network.
Oh, you'll note how much they paid for AWS.... "In total, Rogers will pay $999,367,000."
heh heh... nearly a billion smackers, but they've got 20 MHz in all areas of the country.
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
dascientist said:
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
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You, I'm sorry to say, are an IDIOT.
If you would actually read the whole thread, you would see that no, Rogers also owns rights to a 20 MHz spread of the 1700/2100 AWS band as well, which they will presumably be launching with the Dream. Why pay a BILLION DOLLARS for something if you're not going to USE IT?
True
So June 2nd G1 from T-Mobile can use 3G ?!
what about fido?!
I'm waiting for $30/6GB data plan
its like... almost unlimited
nothings for sure yet...
either rogers will start running the new band that t-mobile runs, or the devices have a different radio compatible to rogers' current 3g band
update: seems like the Canadian HTC Dream will run on AT&T / Rogers 3G bands:
http://www.androidincanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sellsheet1.jpg
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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
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the 3G wont work with the tmobile version. different bands for 3G.
DELL STREAK 5 OFFICIALLY GETS TMOBILE 3G IN USA
January 17, 2011 ... I have 100% confirmation that UNLOCKED Dell Streak 5 currently being sold on dell.com will run 3G in the USA with a Tmobile SIM card. Aside from the new $399 price, this is great news for people who prefer Tmobile over AT&T. To avoid ANY confusion, I specifically asked and confirmed that the new unlocked Streak 5's are quadband (850/1900mhz for AT&T and 1700/2100mhz for Tmobile).
My Dell source noted that upon receiving the Streak 5, installing an existing Tmobile SIM card and upgrading from Android V1.6 to V2.2 (Froyo) you must go into Settings to turn the 3G feature ON. Upgrading from V1.6 to V2.2 is available over the air during first use ( see dell is advertising at http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=mobile-streak )
This information was provided to me on 1/17/2011 by Melinda at Dell Support 800-308-3355.
P.S. As a current Nexus One owner running Froyo that receives HSDPA+ on it (a/k/a 4G), I plan to report if I can also get 4G speeds when I receive my unlocked Streak 5 (due to be delivered to me by 2/8/2011).
From Dell's website on the Streak's specs page:
Bands
UMTS 2100 / 1900 / 850 MHz
GSM / EDGE 1900 / 1800 / 900 / 850 MHz
HSDPA / HSUPA:HSDPA 7.2 Mbps / HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
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No 1700 MHz.
I hope you are correct, but I would think that they would update the info on their site?
I'm not too sure about that....
I just received my unlocked Dell Streak from Dell for my legacy ATT mMode sims which requires it to be unlocked in order to use. My neighbor has t-mobile so I asked if I can use her USA t-moblie to be the first one it sees.
Well, its been 10 mins and it keeps going in a reboot cycle. Looking to see how to reset the streak, if possible to stop the boot loop. I hope I dont have an DOA new Streak that took almost 1month to get.
Dell is really pissing me off now. It all started with me paying full price at bestbuy for one & att not wanting to release unlock code. so I took it back and purchased it from dell unlocked $50 cheaper.
Will keep you posted on the out come.
I think they lied to you. I don't see a place where you can change that unless its a secret menu or something.(I have an unlocked red one)
No go for 3g on tmobile
DELL lied to you my friend.
I did a factory reset to bypass the continuous boot loop. It runs on Edge with Tmobile usa sim. I tried doing the *#*#307#*#* to access the frequency menu like on 1.6 but since it was received with 2.2 it I get a PASSPORT needs to be on SD error and doesn't activate hidden settings.
On the 1.6 band/frequency 1700Mhz is missing. So all signs point to NO.
Will not get 3g on t-mobile. Sorry to burst your bubble
Sent from my Dell Streak
i tried talking to a "dell expert" on live chat about this but they didnt seem to know what i was talking about since they didnt know the difference between gsm and umts. they did say it would work on tmo but was confused when i said 2g or 3g. i highly doubt the streak will be the first quadband umts phone though, because if dell can do it, why isnt everyone else?
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i tried talking to a "dell expert" on live chat about this but they didnt seem to know what i was talking about since they didnt know the difference between gsm and umts. they did say it would work on tmo but was confused when i said 2g or 3g. i highly doubt the streak will be the first quadband umts phone though, because if dell can do it, why isnt everyone else?
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A carrier orders a phone built to their specs. Almost certain that a quadband phone would cost a little more then a dualband phone. No reason for TMO to offer a phone that would make it easier for their subscriber to bolt to AT&T when they start slacking on service. Just think of all the millions of iPhone people who would have left AT&T if they had quadband phones?
The only streaks that have tmobile 3g capabilities are the handful of beta streaks, from Dell's sponsored mile run, in Austin, Texas last summer. Those special streaks are loooong gone.
Just to confirm then, the Dell Streak 5 will only work with AT&T in the USA?
The US version will get 2g on all networks and 3g on At&t only
the AWS version will get 2g on all networks and 3g on TMO only
They apparently do actively manufacture AWS streaks (just in limited quantities in comparison to the US/EU models), but they dont advertise this fact and they wont sell you one directly. You have to find someone yourself.
My streak works fine on 3g and hdspa or whatever on vodafone in the uk, doesn't it work on all networks the same? I just bought mine off the dell website and whacked my sim in and away I went.
Most of europe has 2100mhz coverage, which all streaks support for 3g
Oh right I see, here was me thinking 3g was 3g the same everywhere :-\
I've got a Dell Streak 5 running on the T-Mobile network but the speed is HORRENDOUS! It feels like a 1200 baud modem all over again.
I must have the AWS version because mine runs pretty fast and shows 3g on the screen and a capital H neext to the signal bars.
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I must have the AWS version because mine runs pretty fast and shows 3g on the screen and a capital H neext to the signal bars.
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and you have tmobile?
I just wonder where I could find AWS version..
I bought mine on Craigslist but the guy I got it from said he originally bought it from an importer who got it from Australia. Australian models have the 1700 band that allows you to get tmobile 3g. My baseband version is GAUSB1A135100-AWS. I believe the AUS means it's from Australia and the AWS I don't know whether that signifies anything or not. Perhaps someone with more knowledge than me can chime in.
And yes, I have tmobile. Great phone by the way. Love it much more than my EVO.
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I bought mine on Craigslist but the guy I got it from said he originally bought it from an importer who got it from Australia. Australian models have the 1700 band that allows you to get tmobile 3g. My baseband version is GAUSB1A135100-AWS. I believe the AUS means it's from Australia and the AWS I don't know whether that signifies anything or not. Perhaps someone with more knowledge than me can chime in.
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It doesn't. Has nothing to do with australia.
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they referred me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
mthiffau said:
Good news everybody! I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they referred me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
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Yeah but on the countryside 850 is the main frequency as far as i know..
Even in cities it isn't everywhere
I think i read it on engadget some time ago
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It works for me in every city around the golden horse-shoe (Toronto, Hamilton, St. Catharines, etc), even in rather rural places like Niagara-on-the-Lake and Fort Erie. I haven't tried it in Waterloo (where I go to school yet), but that is a big technology town so I'm sure it will work. Coverage in these areas is enough for me I'm just trying to shut down the "this phone will not work with bell canada's 3g network, it's been tested by multiple people" I've heard going around.
Well my euro did not get 3g around Niagara falls and here in th usa did not get 3g on most of the Boston nh i93 corridor which uses 850 mhz
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Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
Baseband troubles with Defy MB525 - partial solution - and questions
Eman Leerton said:
Hello all, I just bought a Defy mb525 green lens off amazon. I'm in the United States and my sim card is from T-mobile. The phone is from south american (not sure which country)
With the stock rom everything worked fine.. but after i installed cm10 all i got was emergency calls only. I tried all the T-mobil basebands.. as well as every other baseband.. not once did i ever get a signal of any kind.. at one point my phone detected at&t but still had no signal..
I then tried cm7 but had the same result..
I then tried stock cee just to settle on something that works but got rid of blur.. but still had no signal..
If you live in the United States and are on t-mobile wat baseband do you use? Could the issue be with different hardware due to the phone being made for south America? (although with the stock rom i have a great signal) Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated..
Thanks in advance,
Eman
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I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
bob.teatow said:
I have a similar issue with a Defy MB525 that I bought as a refurb from Amazon just a couple of weeks ago.
When I received it, it seemed to be set up with Spanish as it's primary language...
Anyhow I reflashed it with a motorola sbf file that allegedly was for Tmobile USA and had Android 2.2.
Then I rooted it and loaded up CyangenMod 7.2...
I have a SIM from Lycamobile USA, which rides on the Tmobile network.
Before fiddling with the various baseband selections available via CM7.2 I could not make any calls
Phone info, baseband version:EPU93_U_00.59.01
Partial solution.
Tried all of the TMobile/USA baseband settings - no joy.
In desparation tried some of the SouthAmerican settings and the Asian settings...
The best of the lot seems to be Asia/China/ME722 1.10 850/1900/2100
Which works okay and gets an "all bars" signal for me - for Voice and Edge data.
I suspect this setting works because T-Mobile operates Voice and Edge on 1900Mhz in my area.
Also, in some areas, I get "emergency call only", which is probably on the 850 band that belongs to AT&T.
Problem
I don't get any 3G service. That's probably because, as I understand it, 3G for t-mobile is using 1700/2100 (up/down or vice-versa)
and my radio isn't set up to use the 1700 Mhz band.
Question
Can I fix this with a reflash of firmware - to exploit "quad" band operation 850/1700/1900/2100? Which are all in use by Tmobile and/or AT&T in the USA, according to various Wikipedia articles.
If so, which firmware should I load?
If not, is this a hardware limitation of the Defy MB525? Some builds/versions? Or all versions/builds?
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I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
Update - MB525 Tmobile Melrose MA seeing HSPA
Antiga Prime said:
I use the Colombian frequencies, better battery life than Chinese. But yeah, occasionally on some stock builds I wouldn't get any signal. If you're in South America, try using the Retail ROM for Latin America. More specifically "JORLA_U3_3.4.2_108-2_R02_SIGNED_USAJORDMR1B25RETLALA01F.0R_JORLAFRORETLALA_P008_A005_M001_HWp3_WIG147146_Service1FF", which is the one I'm on now.
And no, in most countries you won't get 3g, since this is a hardware issue. I get 3G in Ecuador, but that is only because Movistar here uses 850mhz band for UMTS. Another option would be to sell your Defy and find a Argentina Personal Defy which uses 800/1900, or buy a European Defy that uses 900/2100, since I think in almost every South American country there is at least one carrier that uses those frequencies.
But T-Mobile's defy in South America, as far as I know, will only get you 3G in Ecuador.
EDIT: Misunderstood the post, wasn't paying attention , but my point is still valid. It's a hardware issue.
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I'm visiting Melrose MA today and I'm seeing an HSPA signal! Still with the "China" settings...
Speedtest.net says I got:
Code:
Date,ConnType,Lat,Lon,Download,Upload,Latency,ServerName,InternalIp,ExternalIp
"2013-06-21 15:32","Hspa","42.45245","-71.06685",1388,988,282,"Boston, MA","10.230.130.121","83.137.2.146"
"2013-06-20 07:49","Edge","41.33962","-73.37708",198,112,467,"Secaucus, NJ","10.230.142.199","83.137.2.147"
While the "Network Signal Info" app says I'm HSPA at 14.4 Mbps, I guess that's a max.
Soo... this is good, but I'm still curious -- how can I determine which band(s) the radio is operating on?
According to Wikipedia, T-mobile runs HSPA on the 1900Mhz band in some areas and 1700/2100 in others...
Since I set my radio to 850/1900/2100 - my first guess is I've wandered into a 1900/1900 HSPA zone...
My connection is to CID13693382 / LAC 36498 MCC-MNC 310-260 Is there a database where I can find out what frequencies are assigned to this cell tower for T-mobile? Lots of location/map services - but I didn't find any info about baseband allocations in this area...
Hmmm... Let's try switching the baseband to the T-mobile USA 6.x settings...
Same result as in CT, no service, no joy ;-(
Do the T-Mobile USA settings work for anyone watching this board?
Hey everyone,
First of all I want to say that I am not very experienced with flashing. I have done it 2-3 times before on my other 2 phones, so I will not undestand everything you say but I'll try to do.
Yesterday I got a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S5 from a friend. As far as I know it is unlocked so I decided to put another ROM that doesn't have that much bloatware. I first tried LineageOS (the latest nightly build for SM_G900P), flashed TWRP before that with Odin, but then I noticed that I cannot connect to my carrier, so then I decided to flash this ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sp...ment/rom-g900ppca-6-0-1-stock-rooted-t3387717
I flashed the ROM from the recovery, then I flashed the bootloader and modem with Odin. After that success! The rom fired up after 15 minutes of loading and there it was. I was connected to a carrier and had mobile data and I went to bed. So today I noticed that I couldn't get LTE everywhere I go and I started browsing the forums, but I couldn't find anything that could help. The only thing I found was this https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059 , but all the download links were down.
So I decided to directly ask you guys and gals if you have a solution on how to get LTE signal on my phone.
Thank you in advance and sorry if I misspelled or said something incredibly stupid.
From what I know, the best connection you can get with an S5 in most countries in Europe is 3G. Sprint has the necessary band (2100 MHz) that connects to 3G in most countries in Europe. However, when it comes to LTE, the sprint S5 only has bands 25 (1900MHz), 26 (850MHz), and 41 (2500MHz). This is fine in the US for the Sprint Network, but European countries rely mainly on bands 3 (1800MHz), 7 (2600MHz), or 20 (800) for LTE, which are not found in the sprint variant.
I actually spent lots of time myself trying to unlock more bands using the link you posted, but I just couldn't do it. I couldn't access some menus that were necessary for the unlock during the process.
Also, from what I know, the carrier/data connection can only be acquired by using a stock rom such as the one you found. Custom roms like LineageOS will not connect to a carrier.
So every time i travel to Europe with my Sprint S5, i just put stock rom, and have to stick to 3G. So, that's the current situation with Sprint and LTE in Europe. I would be happy to hear any success stories.
I can confirm Band 3 1800 Mhz LTE works on Galaxy S5 900P Sprint on a network in Europe.